Macnamara Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, MarpatV2 said: Actually Im sure it came in with Abraham as a sign of the covenant between him, his offspring and God. Jewish priests didnt exist then you are 'sure' of that are you? so you subscribe to the bible? Edited January 19, 2021 by Macnamara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarpatV2 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 43 minutes ago, Macnamara said: you are 'sure' of that are you? so you subscribe to the bible? Having read the bible I have a rough idea. The jewish priesthood didnt come into being before the time of Moses. They were created to look after the tabernacle and the sacred furniture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarpatV2 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 45 minutes ago, Macnamara said: I wasn't passing a moral judgment in that case, i was merely saying that i could see why some societies did it as a rite of passage but that doesn't explain the case for jews who do it to babies Maybe it was to ensure they are marked as separate from 8 days old? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarpatV2 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 52 minutes ago, Macnamara said: Why did paul a jew whose real name was saul tell pagans that they didn't need to circumcise their children in order to become a christian? Because its better for recruitment I'd say its run by lurianic kabbalists But you do realise that such a person would not be considered ritually clean for entering the temple, according to their law? Again with the Lurianic kabbalists. Yawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 20, 2021 Author Share Posted January 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, MarpatV2 said: Maybe it was to ensure they are marked as separate from 8 days old? seperate from what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 20, 2021 Author Share Posted January 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, MarpatV2 said: But you do realise that such a person would not be considered ritually clean for entering the temple, according to their law? yes they are no doubt seen as useful idiots by the upper echelons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 20, 2021 Author Share Posted January 20, 2021 8 minutes ago, MarpatV2 said: Having read the bible I have a rough idea. The jewish priesthood didnt come into being before the time of Moses. They were created to look after the tabernacle and the sacred furniture. so ab-ram wasn't a priest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarpatV2 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Macnamara said: yes they are no doubt seen as useful idiots by the upper echelons A bit like truthers are to the people producing the books and vids and 5g shields, etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarpatV2 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Macnamara said: so ab-ram wasn't a priest? I dont think so. What gives you that idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarpatV2 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, Macnamara said: seperate from what? From the 'foreign nations', the outsiders, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 20, 2021 Author Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 minute ago, MarpatV2 said: I dont think so. What gives you that idea? His name and his background Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 20, 2021 Author Share Posted January 20, 2021 Just now, MarpatV2 said: From the 'foreign nations', the outsiders, etc. weren't they the outsider? Didn't they slaughter everyone in canaan and then take the land? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarpatV2 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Just now, Macnamara said: weren't they the outsider? Didn't they slaughter everyone in canaan and then take the land? Yes they were. I mean outside of their tribes. Anyway, it seems that judaism was developed from the religion of Canaan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarpatV2 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Macnamara said: His name and his background His background? why dont you amplify on this a bit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 20, 2021 Author Share Posted January 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, MarpatV2 said: Yes they were. I mean outside of their tribes. Anyway, it seems that judaism was developed from the religion of Canaan you don't perceive any egyptian influence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 20, 2021 Author Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 minute ago, MarpatV2 said: His background? why dont you amplify on this a bit? well he was from the city of Ur wasn't he? but was he really just a sheep herder or was he a religious personage who was for some reason leaving the city of Ur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarpatV2 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Just now, Macnamara said: you don't perceive any egyptian influence? Have a look at this vid. It has an academic background and shows how it developed Pagan Origins of Judaism - YouTube Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarpatV2 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Just now, Macnamara said: well he was from the city of Ur wasn't he? but was he really just a sheep herder or was he a religious personage who was for some reason leaving the city of Ur Thats not really proof of anything, just a question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 20, 2021 Author Share Posted January 20, 2021 Just now, MarpatV2 said: Thats not really proof of anything, just a question. yes. I don't have everything i have ever learned immediately to hand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 20, 2021 Author Share Posted January 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, MarpatV2 said: Have a look at this vid. It has an academic background and shows how it developed and yet in their own bible they speak of moses coming from egypt Some people suggest that the hyksos who invaded egypt then became one of the tribes that made up the federation of tribes known as the 'israelites' there was always a very large colony of jews in egypt and by the time of the crusades they numbered around a million Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarpatV2 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Macnamara said: yes. I don't have everything i have ever learned immediately to hand I watched an Israel professor give a lecture and she basically said Abraham was more of a mythical figure than a real person. Look at this vid, its all about their history and not from a religious stand point "Origins of Ancient Israel" - Carol Meyers - YouTube Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarpatV2 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Macnamara said: and yet in their own bible they speak of moses coming from egypt Some people suggest that the hyksos who invaded egypt then became one of the tribes that made up the federation of tribes known as the 'israelites' there was always a very large colony of jews in egypt and by the time of the crusades they numbered around a million 2 minutes ago, Macnamara said: and yet in their own bible they speak of moses coming from egypt Some people suggest that the hyksos who invaded egypt then became one of the tribes that made up the federation of tribes known as the 'israelites' there was always a very large colony of jews in egypt and by the time of the crusades they numbered around a million Indeed. He was schooled in all the wisdom and magic of the Egyptians, as a member of the pharohs household. Moses wasnt an Egyptian though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 20, 2021 Author Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 minute ago, MarpatV2 said: I watched an Israel professor give a lecture and she basically said Abraham was more of a mythical figure than a real person. well we can unravel all kinds of stuff if we want to say its all metaphor or symbolism and so on But his name itself has magical significance but i will need to refer to my notes and get back to you on that one 'ram' for example is a title i think and ab has significance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 20, 2021 Author Share Posted January 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, MarpatV2 said: Indeed. He was schooled in all the wisdom and magic of the Egyptians, as a member of the pharohs household. Moses wasnt an Egyptian though so they are suggesting an egyptian lineage in terms of their magical background Th french occult author eliphas levi claims that the tarot is the book of moses and that the jews are claiming a lineage to egypt Sigmund freud argued the whole thing about moses being akhenaton leading his atonists out of egypt...once again a claim to egyptian lineage but if the hyksos who conquered egypt for a while and took the egyptian devil 'set' as their god became the israelites then that gives yet another lineage to egypt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarpatV2 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Macnamara said: well we can unravel all kinds of stuff if we want to say its all metaphor or symbolism and so on But his name itself has magical significance but i will need to refer to my notes and get back to you on that one 'ram' for example is a title i think and ab has significance Are you forgetting that his name was altered though? I suspect you mean ram as a sacrificial animal? it could also mean high Ab is Hebrew for father I think. In Egyptian its the heart. So, the way you wrote it, could be high father Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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