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The blatant lies around the history of what happened in Oradour-sur-Glane.  The official story told in school books is totally fake.

https://archive.org/details/OradourVincentReynouardRepondAManuelValls

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Never heard of the lie.

But human society does seem to revolve around blattant Mega-Lies.

One after another.

All wars are lies ... and history are lies.

 

Why?

 

Well maybe it's because a war can be caused because some old idiot who happens to be Prime Minister, because his mistress told him he wasn't good in bed or just didn't make coffee right that morning, and then he turns up at work and  decides to start a war ... or inject everybody in the country.

 

These people are completely empty of any meaning, sanity, education ... most people in charge are complete cowardly nobodies and manipulators.

 

And ... well human beings in general can be like that, all of them.   They are much smaller than the advertising.

All human beings have a big story about themselves.

And it just doesn't mean very much.

 

So yeah it's all a disaster and full of lies and mega lies and frauds and fools.

 

The only solution is for you yourself to wake up to the low state of all human beings and practice rapid self development on yourself.  That is the only thing you can do.

 

There is a world where people are not exactly animals, but they are pretty damn low and stupid, and talk too much, and have big ideas, but are still pretty shitty.  That is the world we are on.  And we are on this world because that is what we are.

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On 1/18/2021 at 11:19 AM, rideforever said:

Never heard of the lie.

But human society does seem to revolve around blattant Mega-Lies.

One after another.

All wars are lies ... and history are lies.

 

Why?

 

Well maybe it's because a war can be caused because some old idiot who happens to be Prime Minister, because his mistress told him he wasn't good in bed or just didn't make coffee right that morning, and then he turns up at work and  decides to start a war ... or inject everybody in the country.

 

These people are completely empty of any meaning, sanity, education ... most people in charge are complete cowardly nobodies and manipulators.

 

And ... well human beings in general can be like that, all of them.   They are much smaller than the advertising.

All human beings have a big story about themselves.

And it just doesn't mean very much.

 

So yeah it's all a disaster and full of lies and mega lies and frauds and fools.

 

The only solution is for you yourself to wake up to the low state of all human beings and practice rapid self development on yourself.  That is the only thing you can do.

 

There is a world where people are not exactly animals, but they are pretty damn low and stupid, and talk too much, and have big ideas, but are still pretty shitty.  That is the world we are on.  And we are on this world because that is what we are.

Sounds like a lot of evasive waffle. Are you saying the nazis didnt do it?

 

There seems to be efforts to try and distance the nazis from many of the things they did. The German government wont deny that this happened, so why do people who never lived there and were never affected want to try and alter how people see such a crime? 

 

Saying everything is lies is just ridiculous.

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20 minutes ago, MarpatV2 said:

There seems to be efforts to try and distance the nazis from many of the things they did. The German government wont deny that this happened, so why do people who never lived there and were never affected want to try and alter how people see such a crime? 

 

Well, I am half German .... 

One thing is for sure is that history is written by those who are holding the guns at the end, I won't say by the winners ... just those who happen to be on the right end of the weapons.  And they will systematically bury anything that makes them feel responsible.

And it is typical for the conquered countries to be socially engineered in various ways ... like for instance there was an attempt to remove the first two stanzas of the German national anthem .. in fact it didn't happen; but people would like the Germans to think that it was banned, in fact it was not.  One German told me yesterday that the first 2 stanzas are banned ... but in fact they are not.  Such is the typical social engineering and lies.

Some things stand out, that Hitler loved his people and country ... and wished to defend them from degenerative influences.  That doesn't mean he wasn't this or that ... I don't know.  But you have to admire someone who loves his nation, and the Swastika is an ancient Indian symbol a good symbol.   A symbol of God.

In fact I was just reading this morning that on the belts of German soldiers from Imperial times it was written "God with us".  But after WW2 an in the same spirit as the lies about banning the National Anthem, the belt buckles of soldiers have been changed so they are now stamped with the words "tolerance and freedom" or some synthetic Godless antheists materialist bullshit that the soldiers are forced to wear on their uniform.

So ... it's not possible to give points out of 10 for the second world war, but it is possible to notice the stupid and insincere games that people play with history ... over and over again.

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2 minutes ago, rideforever said:

 

Well, I am half German .... 

One thing is for sure is that history is written by those who are holding the guns at the end, I won't say by the winners ... just those who happen to be on the right end of the weapons.  And they will systematically bury anything that makes them feel responsible.

And it is typical for the conquered countries to be socially engineered in various ways ... like for instance there was an attempt to remove the first two stanzas of the German national anthem .. in fact it didn't happen; but people would like the Germans to think that it was banned, in fact it was not.  One German told me yesterday that the first 2 stanzas are banned ... but in fact they are not.  Such is the typical social engineering and lies.

Some things stand out, that Hitler loved his people and country ... and wished to defend them from degenerative influences.  That doesn't mean he wasn't this or that ... I don't know.  But you have to admire someone who loves his nation, and the Swastika is an ancient Indian symbol a good symbol.   A symbol of God.

In fact I was just reading this morning that on the belts of German soldiers from Imperial times it was written "God with us".  But after WW2 an in the same spirit as the lies about banning the National Anthem, the belt buckles of soldiers have been changed so they are now stamped with the words "tolerance and freedom" or some synthetic Godless antheists materialist bullshit that the soldiers are forced to wear on their uniform.

So ... it's not possible to give points out of 10 for the second world war, but it is possible to notice the stupid and insincere games that people play with history ... over and over again.

But Hitler was an Austrian, not a German.

 

The German army also had clergy with them. The SS didnt have that written on their buckles though. Its well known they were happy to destroy religious buildings, and Himmler did approve.

 

Its one thing to admire a person who loves their country but when that means killing people for just being different, or wanting their wealth, then its not a good thing. Hitler has a messiah complex. When you consider some pilots who knocked out hundreds of tanks, each with 3-4 people in them, have killed probably hundreds of people because they followed the commands of somebody who 'loved' their country. There are individual German and Austrian snipers who killed hundreds of people for basically an evil cause, though they may have initially thought they were in the right.

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10 hours ago, MarpatV2 said:

There seems to be efforts to try and distance the nazis from many of the things they did.

 

I used to use the nazis as my go-to bad guy. You know? Say if you wanted to speak about a generic dictator i would mention hitler and if i wanted to talk about a generic evil ideology i would mention fascism or nazism. I think this is fairly common in britain because our ancestors fought the nazis

 

But now i realise that is lazy

 

The nazis don't exist in a vacuum. So their political party started in 1921 but it didn't just arise spontaneously. It came off the back of various events that had happened prior to that. See its a disturbing thing to see a modern, industrialised european country slide into dictatorship but it happened because certain seeds were sown.

 

The germans had watched a jewish led communist revolution in neighbouring russia in 1917-1923 and they had seen their own currency destroyed due to the reparation schemes drawn up by wall street bankers in the wake of the first world war of 1914-1918. The germans also couldn't understand why they lost that war when they had been knocking at the gates of paris.

 

So there was a lot of bitterness about the role of foreign financial interests in german affairs and then the bolsheviks murdered over a million white russian christians. Jewish communists then started violent uprisings in german cities.

 

That was the context to the arrival of the nazi party. Now i don't excuse that because i don't agree with centralised power and am therefore as opposed to nationalist socialism as i am to bolshevism but to only speak of one is intellectually lazy and i think dishonest

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Just now, Macnamara said:

 

I used to use the nazis as my go-to bad guy. You know? Say if you wanted to speak about a generic dictator i would mention hitler and if i wanted to talk about a generic evil ideology i would mention fascism or nazism. I think this is fairly common in britain because our ancestors fought the nazis

 

But now i realise that is lazy

 

The nazis don't exist in a vacuum. So their political party started in 1921 but it didn't just arise spontaneously. It came off the back of various events that had happened prior to that. See its a disturbing thing to see a modern, industrialised european country slide into dictatorship but it happened because certain seeds were sown.

 

The germans had watched a jewish led communist revolution in neighbouring russia in 1917-1923 and they had seen their own currency destroyed due to the reparation schemes drawn up by wall street bankers in the wake of the first world war of 1914-1918. The germans also couldn't understand why they lost that war when they had been knocking at the gates of paris.

 

So there was a lot of bitterness about the role of foreign financial interests in german affairs and then the bolsheviks murdered over a million white russian christians. Jewish communists then started violent uprisings in german cities.

 

That was the context to the arrival of the nazi party. Now i don't excuse that because i don't agree with centralised power and am therefore as opposed to nationalist socialism as i am to bolshevism but to only speak of one is intellectually lazy and i think dishonest

Your post is totally off point really. This is about a nazi massacre in France, that did happen. Always has been the same with you wavey, always having to grind the jews into any subject. I suppose you think you're very clever but any rational person would see you for what you are.

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6 minutes ago, MarpatV2 said:

Your post is totally off point really. This is about a nazi massacre in France, that did happen. Always has been the same with you wavey, always having to grind the jews into any subject. I suppose you think you're very clever but any rational person would see you for what you are.

 

any rational person knows that communist slaughters in russia came before the rise of the nazis

 

its like a football game where a player commits a horrific foul against another player. Then the injured player gets up and shoves the player who fouled him. The referee comes up, blows his whistle and hands the injured player a red card

 

So the player who did the first foul gets off the hook but the player who retaliated is the one penalised

 

In a fair world the player who did the horrific first foul would also be penalised. Don't you agree?

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Just now, Macnamara said:

 

any rational person knows that communist slaughters in russia came before the rise of the nazis

 

its like a football game where a player commits a horrific foul against another player. Then the injured player gets up and shoves the player who fouled him. The referee comes up, blows his whistle and hands the injured player a red card

 

So the player who did the first foul gets off the hook but the player who retaliated is the one penalised

 

In a fair world the player who did the horrific first foul would also be penalised. Don't you agree?

You idea is wrong because this isnt a game and the rules of fair play dont tend to exist in places like Germany and Russia back then. They were both butchers.

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1 minute ago, MarpatV2 said:

You idea is wrong because this isnt a game and the rules of fair play dont tend to exist in places like Germany and Russia back then. They were both butchers.

 

yes but i am apeaking about a conspiracy that is old and is continuing and nazism and bolshevism were just chapters in that story

 

So what i am saying is very telling is how myopically focused many people are on hitler and the nazis when really they were a flash in the pan lasting only from 1921 to 1945 whereas communism is alive and well

 

So the silence on the crimes of communism is very telling because it shows that the people in our own time who hold the microphones don't want people to look at those crimes

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