Where to escape to?

[Macnamara]

On 3/18/2021 at 1:42 AM, oz93666 said:

This problem of where to escape to was resolved 16 years ago ! ... Some of us saw this all coming ...

I've told my story before , but  new members may not have herd it , or my offer of help , so here it is again ....

Where to go??? Must be somewhere warm . Humans are not designed for Northern climates too bloody cold !! food doesn't grow , so in a survival situation things are doubly hard ... So somewhere warm , not too much under the control of the NWO .... Strange coincidences pushed me to decide on Thailand ....

Provincial Governor in Thailand Makes Covid-19 Vaccine Mandatory

Published 2 days ago

on May 16, 2021

Authorities in Buri Ram Province in Thailand have issued an order requiring everyone to be vaccinated against Covid-19 or risk being jailed for up to two years or fined.

The order came from Buri Ram governor, Thatchakorn Hatathathayakul, who chaired a provincial communicable disease committee meeting on Friday.

To prevent further virus transmission and help Buri Ram’s public health officials manage the vaccination drive, people aged 18 and over who live or work in the province must assess their risk of Covid-19 infection with village health volunteers, or via an online system or through a vaccination coordinating centre before the end of this month.

Prison or Fine

Disease control and public health officials will have the authority to force at-risk people to be vaccinated, as well as set dates, schedules and places to administer Covid-19 vaccines to them.

The authority stems from the 2015 Communicable Disease Act, violations of which carry a maximum one month in prison and/or fines that could be as high as 20,000 baht, depending on which part of the act is applied.

Those who refuse to be vaccinated may also be liable to a maximum two years in prison and/or a fine up to 40,000 baht for breaching the emergency decree.

The main vaccine the government of Thailand is distributing right now is Coronavac, made by Sinovac Biotech in China, as the first batch of the locally produced AstraZeneca vaccine will not be available until early June.

https://www.chiangraitimes.com/thailand-national-news/news-asia-thailand/provincial-governor-in-thailand-makes-covid-19-vaccine-mandatory/

Edited May 18, 2021 by Macnamara

[oz93666]

3 hours ago, Macnamara said:

Provincial Governor in Thailand Makes Covid-19 Vaccine Mandatory

Published 2 days ago

on May 16, 2021

Authorities in Buri Ram Province in Thailand have issued an order requiring everyone to be vaccinated against Covid-19 or risk being jailed for up to two years or fined.

The order came from Buri Ram governor, Thatchakorn Hatathathayakul, who chaired a provincial communicable disease committee meeting on Friday.

To prevent further virus transmission and help Buri Ram’s public health officials manage the vaccination drive, people aged 18 and over who live or work in the province must assess their risk of Covid-19 infection with village health volunteers, or via an online system or through a vaccination coordinating centre before the end of this month.

Prison or Fine

Disease control and public health officials will have the authority to force at-risk people to be vaccinated, as well as set dates, schedules and places to administer Covid-19 vaccines to them.

The authority stems from the 2015 Communicable Disease Act, violations of which carry a maximum one month in prison and/or fines that could be as high as 20,000 baht, depending on which part of the act is applied.

Those who refuse to be vaccinated may also be liable to a maximum two years in prison and/or a fine up to 40,000 baht for breaching the emergency decree.

The main vaccine the government of Thailand is distributing right now is Coronavac, made by Sinovac Biotech in China, as the first batch of the locally produced AstraZeneca vaccine will not be available until early June.

https://www.chiangraitimes.com/thailand-national-news/news-asia-thailand/provincial-governor-in-thailand-makes-covid-19-vaccine-mandatory/

Haaa... if I take a vaccine I promise this forum will be the first to know ...but don't hold your breath. 

 

But finding a place to escape to is not just about surviving the minor irritation of corvid ...there's much more to come , economic collapse , food shortages , perhaps WWIII ...so it's about being remote , growing food , solar panels etc  

Edited May 19, 2021 by oz93666

[Mikheil]

4 hours ago, oz93666 said:

Haaa... if I take a vaccine I promise this forum will be the first to know ...but don't hold your breath. 

 

But finding a place to escape to is not just about surviving the minor irritation of corvid ...there's much more to come , economic collapse , food shortages , perhaps WWIII ...so it's about being remote , growing food , solar panels etc  

Try Belize. Lowest population density on the planet, plenty of jungle, land in most places (not near the coast is good. Not sure about their attitude to lockdown / vaccines etc.  I have a friend over there who is one of the top attorneys. His company also does real estate. Land is cheap. I can put you in touch with him if you want.

 

[Macnamara]

13 hours ago, oz93666 said:

Haaa... if I take a vaccine I promise this forum will be the first to know ...but don't hold your breath. 

 

But finding a place to escape to is not just about surviving the minor irritation of corvid ...there's much more to come , economic collapse , food shortages , perhaps WWIII ...so it's about being remote , growing food , solar panels etc  

 

I know man

 

Have you considered stashing a hammock and a rain cover out in the forest near your gaff? Maybe a couple of k away, along with some tins of food and a water container?

 

The authorities will know about the white guy living out in the forest and may want to squeeze you for cash. If they are local law enforcement you might be able to bribe them but if they are feds they might have their mind set on jabbing you.

 

It might be worth keeping a go-bag by your back door and just slipping out the back if anyone drives up. Just retreat to your hidden camp for a day or two until they feck off again.

[oz93666]

5 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

I know man

 

Have you considered stashing a hammock and a rain cover out in the forest near your gaff? Maybe a couple of k away, along with some tins of food and a water container?

 

The authorities will know about the white guy living out in the forest and may want to squeeze you for cash. If they are local law enforcement you might be able to bribe them but if they are feds they might have their mind set on jabbing you.

 

It might be worth keeping a go-bag by your back door and just slipping out the back if anyone drives up. Just retreat to your hidden camp for a day or two until they feck off again.

 

I've considered every option M , getting a piece of paper from a doctor is not a problem ....

 

Survival lifestyle is not an option in any country .... moving around is a non starter , I know there are survivalist threads on the forum , living off the land ,that's a ridiculous idea in the UK . Possible here but not comfortable....

 

While on the subject , all the people getting vaxed in the UK , is a record kept ? Do you show your ID ? 

 

When this all started I recommended people in UK register with an immigrant doctor , they come from a culture that knows how to play ball , for a hundred quid they will stamp your card . ....

 

But if you have been following my posts , you will know I don't see the covid vaccine as a big danger .... Remember I've been an anti vaxer all my adult life , haven't had a vax since I was 12years old .... read my first anti vax book 40years ago "the blood poisoners"  , so I do know the story ....

 

From the best authority we have covid vax is not the kill shot , the only way it's been spiked is with tracker chips , there maybe side effects for 1% .  So if push came to shove I would not panic ... but as I said it won't come to that , and I certainly won't go looking to get vaxed.

 

[Macnamara]

25 minutes ago, oz93666 said:

I've considered every option M , getting a piece of paper from a doctor is not a problem ....

 

Survival lifestyle is not an option in any country .... moving around is a non starter , I know there are survivalist threads on the forum , living off the land ,that's a ridiculous idea in the UK . Possible here but not comfortable....

 

It's definately difficult in the Uk without some sort of land reform. I use lots of local providers of all kinds of goods and no one produces everything for themselves on their own site so it needs hubs through which people can exchange their goods and through which people can find what they needed

 

In scotland all the market towns were deliberately built no more than 16 miles apart so that no one ever had to walk more than 8 miles to get to a market where of course everyone took their wares and sold it. We do have farmers markets here again which is a good development and moving more in the direction of say the french who are good at that but the internet has the potential to create spaces through which people can share goods and services and find goods and services but people are just not focused on that yet because they have not yet turned their minds against the corporate system

 

25 minutes ago, oz93666 said:

While on the subject , all the people getting vaxed in the UK , is a record kept ? Do you show your ID ? 

 

They are going to go down the vaccine passport route for sure. Also the EU is looking to create vaccine passports for travel and the UK and US will coordinate with them for sure

 

25 minutes ago, oz93666 said:

When this all started I recommended people in UK register with an immigrant doctor , they come from a culture that knows how to play ball , for a hundred quid they will stamp your card . ....

 

Might be worth a try

 

25 minutes ago, oz93666 said:

But if you have been following my posts , you will know I don't see the covid vaccine as a big danger .... Remember I've been an anti vaxer all my adult life , haven't had a vax since I was 12years old .... read my first anti vax book 40years ago "the blood poisoners"  , so I do know the story ....

 

I have just been listening, on UKColumn, to two ladies discussing the death of their father after getting the pfizer shot. After about 55 minutes they discuss having reported his death to the MHRA yellow card scheme who took weeks to respond by which point of course the deceased will either be under the ground or cremated and a post mortum can't be done to ascertain whether or not the injection is directly responsible for the death or not. Neither did their doctor report the death to the yellow card scheme. So we have a triumverate of doctors, vaccine manufacturers and government regulators who are all colluding to cover each others backs and conceal the extent of the harm being caused by the injections

 

You can watch it here:

A Good Man Down: The Fatal Reality of Vaccine Adverse Reactions

https://www.ukcolumn.org/video/a-good-man-down-the-fatal-reality-of-vaccine-adverse-reactions

 

25 minutes ago, oz93666 said:

From the best authority we have covid vax is not the kill shot , the only way it's been spiked is with tracker chips , there maybe side effects for 1% .  So if push came to shove I would not panic ... but as I said it won't come to that , and I certainly won't go looking to get vaxed

 

I think its both. I think there is a population reduction agenda combined with a control agenda. Population reduction is achieved by causing damage to the body whilst population control is achieved through nanobots but i don't see 5G as a seperate issue. I see 5G and the injections as fundamentally linked. i believe that what is being injected into people will interact with the microwaves of the 5G which can then decide the outcome for the person

[Mikheil]

The entire "Global Warming" is starting to come apart. It's 20 MAY, It's the coldest May they I have experienced so far. Last night I got up at 03:30 to take a leak. Outside temperature was 5 (FIVE) degrees Celcius. It's now 10:30 and the outside temperature is 12.9 degrees. We still have the heating on!

 

I think that the coming winter will make this winter past, look like a hot summer. People will be freezing, electricity will fail. Heating oil will be so fucking expensive and in short supply that people will literally freeze to death, Crops are failing and food will be in short supply as well as being incredibly expensive.  

 

'Flu will be rampant, and folks will be dropping like flies. This time, the lockdown will be TOTAL, you won't be allowed out of you DOOR, let alone your garden. There will be a new "emergency vaccine" and some of the people who said NO will be so fucking terrified that they will roll up their sleeves.

 

A new mini-ice age is coming and very few are prepared. There will be utter chaos and when it's all over, only the fittest will survive (along with the top elite who have wintered in their bunkers). I'll be huddled in front of my wood and coal burning stove, with enough nutrition to last for 12 months.

 
I only hope that the survivors will grow enough balls to hunt the bastards down and exterminate them like the vermin they are. I hope I'm one of them. I would just love to dispatch a few of these bastards before my time is up.

[Guest]

There is no country that is free of this agenda. There is no escape as such anywhere. Maybe one can buy some time by relocationg to a remote location where it will take a few more months for the agenda to take total control. But as from next year--nowhere.

[Seeker]

On 5/20/2021 at 9:37 AM, Mikheil said:

The entire "Global Warming" is starting to come apart. It's 20 MAY, It's the coldest May they I have experienced so far. Last night I got up at 03:30 to take a leak. Outside temperature was 5 (FIVE) degrees Celcius. It's now 10:30 and the outside temperature is 12.9 degrees. We still have the heating on!

 

I think that the coming winter will make this winter past, look like a hot summer. People will be freezing, electricity will fail. Heating oil will be so fucking expensive and in short supply that people will literally freeze to death, Crops are failing and food will be in short supply as well as being incredibly expensive.  

 

'Flu will be rampant, and folks will be dropping like flies. This time, the lockdown will be TOTAL, you won't be allowed out of you DOOR, let alone your garden. There will be a new "emergency vaccine" and some of the people who said NO will be so fucking terrified that they will roll up their sleeves.

 

A new mini-ice age is coming and very few are prepared. There will be utter chaos and when it's all over, only the fittest will survive (along with the top elite who have wintered in their bunkers). I'll be huddled in front of my wood and coal burning stove, with enough nutrition to last for 12 months.

 
I only hope that the survivors will grow enough balls to hunt the bastards down and exterminate them like the vermin they are. I hope I'm one of them. I would just love to dispatch a few of these bastards before my time is up.

I noticed this too, it’s freezing for what should be the start of summer! As a kid May was the month we looked forward to as it meant sunny conditions to play football, now it’s grey, cold and rainy. 

 

Have you ever ever come across ice age farmer on bitchute? He did a short talk with Gareth Icke earlier, I’ll need to catch up with his stuff, he explains the climate and solutions for surviving. Do you know off the top of your head when this mini ice age will be at its peak and for how long? As Gareth and ice age farmer discuss. The perfect storm for food shortages is growing, meat industry wrecked thanks to pcr test, and also geoengineering, blocking the sun, frost & bill gates taking co2 out the atmosphere is going to make growing food much more difficult. This is where ice age farmer offers solutions. I am very lucky to be off to Eastern Europe in a couple of months, where it is naturally warmer, cheaper and easier to live remote or in a village of like minded people. If people aren’t prepared then now is the time to begin. Prepare for the worst and you’ll never be caught off guard. Clean water, food, hygiene, shelter, we are 1 step ahead with being aware, so got to make the most of that blessing 

[Mikheil]

2 hours ago, Seeker said:

I noticed this too, it’s freezing for what should be the start of summer! As a kid May was the month we looked forward to as it meant sunny conditions to play football, now it’s grey, cold and rainy. 

 

Have you ever ever come across ice age farmer on bitchute? He did a short talk with Gareth Icke earlier, I’ll need to catch up with his stuff, he explains the climate and solutions for surviving. Do you know off the top of your head when this mini ice age will be at its peak and for how long? As Gareth and ice age farmer discuss. The perfect storm for food shortages is growing, meat industry wrecked thanks to pcr test, and also geoengineering, blocking the sun, frost & bill gates taking co2 out the atmosphere is going to make growing food much more difficult. This is where ice age farmer offers solutions. I am very lucky to be off to Eastern Europe in a couple of months, where it is naturally warmer, cheaper and easier to live remote or in a village of like minded people. If people aren’t prepared then now is the time to begin. Prepare for the worst and you’ll never be caught off guard. Clean water, food, hygiene, shelter, we are 1 step ahead with being aware, so got to make the most of that blessing 

Yesterday, we had gale force winds, they were coming from the south, but very cold, max 17 degrees but with the wind chill factor. felt like 12.

 

I completely agree with you about food, prices are already rising. I think this year will be the worst harvest for many years. A VERY cold winter, food shortages and people dying like flies.

 

This generation are NOT equipped to survive. The minute you take away electricity they are FUCKED. How can people live without a Smartphone, a refrigerator and all the kitchen "gadgets"? How many of them could slaughter an animal?

 

[oz93666]

7 minutes ago, Mikheil said:

Yesterday, we had gale force winds, they were coming from the south, but very cold, max 17 degrees but with the wind chill factor. felt like 12.

 

I completely agree with you about food, prices are already rising. I think this year will be the worst harvest for many years. A VERY cold winter, food shortages and people dying like flies.

 

This generation are NOT equipped to survive. The minute you take away electricity they are FUCKED. How can people live without a Smartphone, a refrigerator and all the kitchen "gadgets"? How many of them could slaughter an animal?

 

 

Here's what Creator had to say ,channeled by KM , about anomalous weather, else ware he says it's a lot to do with attacking food production  ...

 

This again is the handiwork of the Extraterrestrial Alliance in conjunction with the Secret Space Program, to practice using weather modification to cause harm to those on the ground. This they do time and time again with increasing ferocity these days, including all of the severe natural disasters you can enumerate from wildfires to floods, to blizzards, to unusually arid conditions, to volcanoes, to earthquakes, to hurricanes. All are unnatural when present in extreme circumstances with extreme force. This is entirely artificial. It is done in conjunction with existing weather rather than out of the blue which would be noticed. So it seems to just be bad luck and, in this case, the early arrival of a freezing storm in October seems more like bad luck to have happened at the end of a season starting with too much flooding in the spring to delay planting and the two events seem to be wholly unrelated when in fact they are a single orchestration designed for maximum negative impact to impair source of food for human beings.

This is part of the diabolical tightening of the noose around human civilization as they have designs on you and are ramping up the pressure relentlessly bit by bit and will continue to do so. Even when it becomes noticeable, it will be blamed on false causes like global warming or bad political decisions, and so forth, to distract the critics and the few whistleblowers who have enough intuitive awareness to see the truth of things, and the truth will suffer being lost in the torrent of voices decrying the situation and pointing fingers at the wrong culprits and outshouting those with true understanding

[Truthspoon]

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This again is the handiwork of the Extraterrestrial Alliance in conjunction with the Secret Space Program, to practice using weather modification to cause harm to those on the ground.

 

Making rain is quite a simple process. You just fire enough heavy metallic particles into the upper atmosphere and it will rain.

 

Here in the UAE they have been quite open about their weather modification programme and no aliens were mentioned.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_seeding_in_the_United_Arab_Emirates

 

More bullshit from you. Have you got a long-term contract to work on this forum? Annoys me that you are grifting on feeding us lies when some of us have to work for a living. 

 

Pfftt. Shame on you sir. SHAME!

 

 

[Grumpy Owl]

10 hours ago, oz93666 said:

Here's what Creator had to say ,channeled by KM , about anomalous weather, else ware he says it's a lot to do with attacking food production 

 

And yet again, it reads like a prepared script.

 

Does 'Creator' have nothing to say about anomalous weather being caused by solar cycles?

[oz93666]

3 hours ago, Grumpy Owl said:

Does 'Creator' have nothing to say about anomalous weather being caused by solar cycles?

 

Not to my knowledge , But this effect is well known and only effects Earth's  overall temperature in a small way , the anomalous weather we mean is something like floods in the spring causing late planting by farmers followed by early frosts in summer which kills crops .....

Solar cycles are 11 years from peak (hot) to trough (cold) but we hardly notice , we don't remember 2009 as a particularly cold year ...

Some people have gone overboard on this , notably the "Ice age farmer" .. he thought an ice age was coming with this latest minimum , But the danger is past, the minimum was in 2019, 

We are now warming up ( slightly )

 

,,

 

 

9 hours ago, Truthspoon said:

 

Making rain is quite a simple process. You just fire enough heavy metallic particles into the upper atmosphere and it will rain.

 

Many countries seed rain bearing clouds with silver iodide to cause them to dump their load of water early , this is the most basic form of weather modification ... The rain bearing  clouds have to be there already ... The SSP have much greater capabilities effecting the whole global weather pattern , local temperatures and rain and wind.  Particularly hurricanes of the size we see, are not natural ,  advanced tech is used to increase their power to wreak havoc on many areas  ... 

 

So the sky's are full of cloaked craft , messing with weather , abducting people , starting forest fires , triggering earthquakes and volcanoes. This is how the million or so mind control humans, in the SSP spend their time ,  following orders from their Reptilian controllers ...The power structure is very similar to Earth, here , secretly the Reps control mind influenced politicians and others.

 

 We are informed latter the plan is to have these craft fire on population centers ...

 

 

This will probably be after the arrival of apparently friendly ET's  offering help ... But the Evil ET alliance are fluid and do change their plans ... Only Prayer can stop them. 

 

A disintegration beam fired from a cloaked SSP craft dustified the towers on 9/11

[Mikheil]

I understand from someone else on this forum that you can buy an entire abandoned village in Italy for next to nothing. If a group of like-minded people made a resource pool and brought some varied skillsets, it could be made to work.

 

If there is land you could grow most of your own food, need some cash to get a couple of cows for milk, breed rabbits for food as well as pigs. Bees for honey. Would need at least one builder, one electrician, one plumber, some herbal / medical knowledge. Women must be able to bake bread, cook, and WORK as well as ply nurse if someone was injured.

 

Year one would be BAD, everyone would be working their butts off. Year two would be better.

 

TWO obstacles :

 

1. Women. How many modern women would put up with nothing but hardship for at least a year?

2. Could a group of white people actually work together without each one trying to be "Boss"?

 

Maybe the guy who lives in Italy and knows where these places are, would like to point you in the right direction?

[Thewoodsman]

On 3/29/2021 at 7:32 PM, Ergo Storm said:

Going off-grid does not necessarily mean having to move.  You don't need to escape.  You can go off-grid in situ.  Just become self-sufficient where you are, even if you're living in an ordinary house on a housing estate.  Grow your own food.  Keep chickens, etc.  You can even keep pigs, which is what I do in the garden of a very ordinary house.  I get some funny looks, but at the same time, nobody bothers me.  Self-sufficiency is completely legal.  You can even generate your own energy.  I power my house and outbuildings with solar, use gas canisters, and collect rainwater.  I'm thinking about biogas.  Keep fit and train in the countryside.  Learn skills like archery and riflemanship.  Rent an allotment.  Prep and store canned food.  Take it slowly.  Work on it over years.  All these activities involve the acquisition of knowledge and skills that are useful in their own right and lead to an awareness of Nature and the countryside.  

 

I have also moved away from using public services, especially health.  I have deregistered from my GP (this can be done, if you know the procedure).  I am off the electoral roll and ignore the census.  I go everywhere by push bike, except when working (I have a van and work in building renovation).  However, I still pay my tax and National Insurance - in the case of tax, because I don't want to attract attention from the authorities.  My children are home educated and privately tutored.

 

If you follow this advice, in about five years from now, or maybe sooner, you will be mentally and physically prepared for if - if - it eventually gets to the point that you have to flee, and you will have all the skills needed to survive and move somewhere else, if absolutely necessary.

 

That is what I have been doing since circa 2011/12, when it dawned on me what must inevitably happen.  I am more of a mainstream-type thinker with a background as a solicitor, but even I realise that the system must collapse in some way, though I always thought this was many more years down the line.  However, there is still time for you to follow this plan.  Others on this Forum may disagree, but I believe there is still a few years left yet.  I suspect what we will now see is a return to a normal-ish type society, with much heavier compliance, social conformity, general stupidity and unpleasantness.  This is because the elites have got what they wanted: unthinking compliance from the overwhelming majority.  But there WILL be a next time, and it could be the final time, so your window of opportunity is perhaps only a few years.

 

I will never wear a mask or take the vaccine, but I will not move and go fully off-grid until I have to.  Instead, the next stage of my plan is to buy a small piece of land, maybe half-an-acre as that's enough for self-sufficiency, and slowly build that up so that it's ready, maybe staying there at weekends.

 

It's a slow-burn plan in which I have gradually prepared myself and acquired various skills.  The poster above who counselled people not to rush is correct.  You can't just go off-grid instantly, just like that, unless you already have certain skills.  That's bad advice.  You must be prepared and patient and plan it all through.

 

Most importantly - by sticking around, you add to the number of dissidents.  Remember: we may still need you.  And from a psychological point-of-view, I have always thought that running away sets a bad trend because it smacks of defeat and retreat.  This is my country, not theirs.  The settlors and exiles of the past left for new worlds, and they also knew how to take care of themselves.  Everywhere is charted now and the world is different and you are different: you're 'civilised' and unprepared for the ruthless feedback of Nature.  Know your limitations.  Take it one step at a time.  Think of the 'new world' as here, where you are, and take consolation in the knowledge that you are rebelling by voting with your feet - all in plain sight, and with a broad smile on your maskless face.

Well said.

I live 100 percent off grid. Jumped into it head first. My son was born about 6 months after I got the place. The first winter was spent cold, no running water in what was basically a small ruin..I spent the following 3 years working around the clock which brings me to now. It's been emotional. 

Makes a man out of you.

When I moved here I carved something into a log I cut and turned into a bench. The quote was "and into the forest I go,to lose my mind and find my soul" cant remember who said that but anyway that turned out to be the case. 

I've doubled the size of the house. Have running water from an extremely generous source  , power everything with solar, currently reading about wind energy. Planning out a trout lake at the moment. Greenhouses set up, water heated via a wood stove, wood cut from my land. Sitting on 50 acres up here. I'm glad I did it but I must admit its non stop. Never a minute to stop. 

I would love to help people looking to do similar as through my mistakes I can sure save others some time and tears.

 

As you say though you dont need to be in the back end of the woods. I was literally thinking the other day to myself why I was not already putting all this into practice in london.

 

My advice would be to people get food water and heat ready. Take it from me it's becoming harder and harder to grow food.  I'm not entirely sure why but I truly believe were entering a cold number of years.

It worries me.  Each year I'm seeing the growing window shorten.

 

[Thewoodsman]

On 3/18/2021 at 2:42 AM, oz93666 said:

This problem of where to escape to was resolved 16 years ago ! ... Some of us saw this all coming ...

 

I've told my story before , but  new members may not have herd it , or my offer of help , so here it is again ....

 

The year 2000 found me living in Glastonbury (I was age 47 then) .... Having been a student of Magick for many decades I had loads of money ( magick anit magick if you can't conjure up  money) , didn't have to work , bought a large detached house and set about turning it into a tantric temple .... This has been an ongoing theme throughout my life , constructing a space for divine sex ... the thing is I just never get things finished to actually practice divine sex ... the dark force opposition is just too strong , sabotaging everything .... This time in Glastonbury was just the same  , after 4 years I was getting nowhere ... Also during this time I was intensely studying our subject, listening to AJ 3 hrs a day , every day  ... I came to the conclusion the NWO would soon make their move and I needed to get somewhere safe . I also concluded this big move would probably be a virus .... they had killed literally hundreds of microbiologists , a very strong indicator , and there were other reasons ....

 

Where to go??? Must be somewhere warm . Humans are not designed for Northern climates too bloody cold !! food doesn't grow , so in a survival situation things are doubly hard ... So somewhere warm , not too much under the control of the NWO .... Strange coincidences pushed me to decide on Thailand ....

 

So I sold up .... told everyone who would listen "UK is not survivable the controllers are going to release a virus" .... "And just when is this going to happen?" someone asked... "Perhaps by the start of the next decade" ... I said ...  People living in Glastonbury will confirm this prediction , particularly if involved in the yoga scene they will remember me ... my parting words were  .."Don't take the vaccine" ...

 

So I was a decade out , I thought the virus might be released in 2010 ... Still that's just as well , I'm still not fully prepared ....

 

I left UK with 200K pounds which makes things so much easier ...Spent the first year on one of the islands at a yoga hangout , then took up with a Thai lady and headed for a remote inland area ... Bought a massive piece of land , semi jungle with a river , about ten football pitches in size , coconuts , bananas and a dozen other fruits grow wild , I've built a large underground bunker with foot thick reinforced concrete walls...

 

Thailand has only 1% reported covid deaths that UK has , despite same population size , so no plans here for mass vaccination , It must be one of the best places to be ....

 

And you are all welcome to come and live on the land I have here ! .... I do know how difficult people are to get on with ,particularly you lot ,  but since the land is so big you can go off into a corner somewhere and not be under my feet .... If you have money things will be a lot easier , if not you can build a shack with the bamboo that grows everywhere. 

 

 

Sounds incredible. Wish I had coconuts and bananas growing. 

Spot on about the cold and growing food.  Not many will be able to when it comes to it.

Plenty to forage but that's lost knowledge to most. 

[Scogan]

These comments are hilarious and frightening at the same time.  

 

What is SHTF?  Face it mates.  We are all germs on a toilet bowl and the cleaning lady just sprayed us with Lysol that will kill 99% percent of us.  And I gotta be honest here, I hope the guy in Thailand survives.  At least he will be banging on something sweet until the very end.   

[bradlaw]

I'm in the States but think parts of Brazil or my favorite, Ecuador could be a good place to go. I say this through second hand knowledge from friends and past co-workers who were from these countries and planned to go back eventually. I have only seen pictures and heard stories but it would be scary leaving homeland.

[Jikwan]

On 5/22/2021 at 9:13 AM, oz93666 said:

 

Here's what Creator had to say ,channeled by KM , about anomalous weather, else ware he says it's a lot to do with attacking food production  ...

 

This again is the handiwork of the Extraterrestrial Alliance in conjunction with the Secret Space Program, to practice using weather modification to cause harm to those on the ground. This they do time and time again with increasing ferocity these days, including all of the severe natural disasters you can enumerate from wildfires to floods, to blizzards, to unusually arid conditions, to volcanoes, to earthquakes, to hurricanes. All are unnatural when present in extreme circumstances with extreme force. This is entirely artificial. It is done in conjunction with existing weather rather than out of the blue which would be noticed. So it seems to just be bad luck and, in this case, the early arrival of a freezing storm in October seems more like bad luck to have happened at the end of a season starting with too much flooding in the spring to delay planting and the two events seem to be wholly unrelated when in fact they are a single orchestration designed for maximum negative impact to impair source of food for human beings.

This is part of the diabolical tightening of the noose around human civilization as they have designs on you and are ramping up the pressure relentlessly bit by bit and will continue to do so. Even when it becomes noticeable, it will be blamed on false causes like global warming or bad political decisions, and so forth, to distract the critics and the few whistleblowers who have enough intuitive awareness to see the truth of things, and the truth will suffer being lost in the torrent of voices decrying the situation and pointing fingers at the wrong culprits and outshouting those with true understanding

Sounds about right

You confirm my suspicions

Man made "natural" disasters are created using electromagnetic beams/directed energy weapons shooting one or combination of frequencies from HAARPS stations or military radar stations

 

‘You may live to see man-made horrors beyond your comprehension.’ — Nikola Tesla

[Mr H]

2 hours ago, bradlaw said:

I'm in the States but think parts of Brazil or my favorite, Ecuador could be a good place to go. I say this through second hand knowledge from friends and past co-workers who were from these countries and planned to go back eventually. I have only seen pictures and heard stories but it would be scary leaving homeland.

Yeah I'm considering which is the best place to move to. I have spent a lot of time in south and central america. And you know if things are going ok, these are ideal places to live. It's really like paradise if you have a bit of money.

 

However, my concern is, if things do go bad - which is the whole point of moving out there! Then these places can potentially turn on you pretty fast. You are and will never be considered one "of them" it's not a multicultural love fest like here! And there is easy access for folks to get guns and I suspect in a lot of cases if you set up some sort of camp it would be relatively easily taken over if you had wanted assets in that camp - like food, gold, clean water etc......

 

Not saying it's not doable there ad am still considering it but it is probably not as easy as it looks on paper. In terms of social unrest type stuff, I would feel a lot safer in the UK (countryside somewhere) as an example than in Brazil!

[Mr H]

And I guess if you want to be even safer then somewhere in south east asia is probably your best bet. I am completely ignorant as to where would be appropriate, but things like theft and social violence seems to be frowned upon more naturally in these cultures looking from the outside.

[elongated1]

17 hours ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

People will sell or barter all their possessions just to make ends meet. Owning nothing in the end and very unhappy. People with nothing to barter will go hungry. Paper money might lose all it's value because of "strategic" confidence sabotage that amounts to withdrawl of backing for those bank notes. People who own the most will prolong their stability by trading goods. Available jobs will be sought by endless streams of applicants ready to work cheap.

 

Most people will be made to rely on UBI and once you are trapped with no means to increase your wealth, you'll become a complete slave. Refusing the narrative means that your UBI will be cut so it means to live or die.

 

I feel more urgency now. There is no time to waste caring for others to wake up but we need to shift out focus on ourselves to secure our future.

There are people talking about becoming a private citizen this means that you will cut ties with the system and we will go separate ways.

There is microchipped and non-chipped human. It's gonna be hard work, no more trip to a supermarket for even a packet of pasta. You'd have to make flour amongst yourself AND make pasta whereas before, you just bought a bag of dry pasta.  How about making some butter? You need cow, tend it, milk it then finally you can make some butter. OK, you are a vegan. No tofu, no avocado. May be you won't need vegetable oil either.... just boil or bake everything huh?

That just some changes we need to consider.

 

I don't know where I will end up. I don't even know if I'm going to be alive in next two years since we are going to be surrounded by clinically trialled people till Jan 2023.

But I have to keep going whichever comes fast. My main focus is now, not to get trapped in the 3D world because normies who are queueing up for the V and praying to their god have no idea what they are letting themselves in. Once you start receiving those gene altering juice, that is it. You sold your soul to the satan and no chance of escaping this Matrix. I guess difference is how long is your long term view is.... my long term isn't just this life.

 

So choose your side carefully.

 

This could be our future self. lol

 

 

Edited May 28, 2021 by elongated1

[Seeker]

3 hours ago, elongated1 said:

 

Most people will be made to rely on UBI and once you are trapped with no means to increase your wealth, you'll become a complete slave. Refusing the narrative means that your UBI will be cut so it means to live or die.

 

I feel more urgency now. There is no time to waste caring for others to wake up but we need to shift out focus on ourselves to secure our future.

There are people talking about becoming a private citizen this means that you will cut ties with the system and we will go separate ways.

There is microchipped and non-chipped human. It's gonna be hard work, no more trip to a supermarket for even a packet of pasta. You'd have to make flour amongst yourself AND make pasta whereas before, you just bought a bag of dry pasta.  How about making some butter? You need cow, tend it, milk it then finally you can make some butter. OK, you are a vegan. No tofu, no avocado. May be you won't need vegetable oil either.... just boil or bake everything huh?

That just some changes we need to consider.

 

I don't know where I will end up. I don't even know if I'm going to be alive in next two years since we are going to be surrounded by clinically trialled people till Jan 2023.

But I have to keep going whichever comes fast. My main focus is now, not to get trapped in the 3D world because normies who are queueing up for the V and praying to their god have no idea what they are letting themselves in. Once you start receiving those gene altering juice, that is it. You sold your soul to the satan and no chance of escaping this Matrix. I guess difference is how long is your long term view is.... my long term isn't just this life.

 

So choose your side carefully.

 

This could be our future self. lol

 

 

I know this is the least of your worries in your post, but it’s worth checking out Dr Joseph Mercola’s research on vegetable oils as it’s super unhealthy for us, with far superior alternatives, just 1 more thing to help a healthy lifestyle

[Liberty]

On 5/23/2021 at 9:06 PM, Mikheil said:

I understand from someone else on this forum that you can buy an entire abandoned village in Italy for next to nothing. If a group of like-minded people made a resource pool and brought some varied skillsets, it could be made to work.

 

If there is land you could grow most of your own food, need some cash to get a couple of cows for milk, breed rabbits for food as well as pigs. Bees for honey. Would need at least one builder, one electrician, one plumber, some herbal / medical knowledge. Women must be able to bake bread, cook, and WORK as well as ply nurse if someone was injured.

 

Year one would be BAD, everyone would be working their butts off. Year two would be better.

 

TWO obstacles :

 

1. Women. How many modern women would put up with nothing but hardship for at least a year?

2. Could a group of white people actually work together without each one trying to be "Boss"?

 

Maybe the guy who lives in Italy and knows where these places are, would like to point you in the right direction?

That’s because it’s run by the mafia lol.  That’s why it’s abandoned