killing raven sun 65 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 current mainstream scientific dogma believes the sun is a fusion reactor, they think this fusion reaction can be replicated on earth, the most popular experimental reactor type is the tokamak, basically a large magnetic confinement chamber to hold the plasma that forms from the reaction, the most ambitious of these projects is known as ITER, an international effort costing untold billions of dollars and requiring decades to build the first problem is that no fusion reactor has ever produced energy, instead they use immense amounts of electricity to produce plasmas that can only be stabilized for a few seconds before the reaction hits the chamber walls and is extinguished, so there is no experimental evidence that the reactor will work at all, much less produce power but the problem with fusion reactors is that the very concept is impossible, of course the biggest flaw in their theory is that the sun is not a fusion reactor, there is no evidence to support a fusion model of the sun and much evidence which contradicts the theory but they have yet another logical problem, if you are trying to make a small sun on earth then why are tokamaks shaped like a doughnut? the sun is clearly a sphere so why try to turn it into a toroid? there is no mainstream scientific answer to these logical questions, the scientists working on the project simply have no idea what they are doing or they are on the take Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oz93666 1,346 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 (edited) A number of separate points in that post ..... We agree it appears the sun is mostly electrically powered , neutrinos indicate 1/3 of the power comes from fusion , so 2/3 must come from electrical discharge ... But fusing small atoms together does release great energy ,as proven by the hydrogen bomb , and many particle physics experiments , so the basic theory is right ... They use a toroid just because of the practicality of magnetic confinement , can wind wires around the length of the toroid , very easy .... Using a sphere magnetic containment cannot be done .( for large sun sized spherical objects confinement is done by gravity, not possible on a small scale) But yes Fusion Power is a big hoax , it is being perused because they know it will waste money and never deliver an economically feasible reactor.... When fission power first appeared in the 1950's the engineers said electricity would be so cheap that it wouldn't have to be metered ....The Cabal soon put a stop to that , steering the industry away from breeder reactors into dangerous expensive Uranium eaters .... then Rothschilds took control of the Uranium market to keep it's price high ...lol ...job done! Edited January 15 by oz93666 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DarianF 1,191 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 14 hours ago, killing raven sun said: current mainstream scientific dogma believes the sun is a fusion reactor, they think this fusion reaction can be replicated on earth, the most popular experimental reactor type is the tokamak, basically a large magnetic confinement chamber to hold the plasma that forms from the reaction, the most ambitious of these projects is known as ITER, an international effort costing untold billions of dollars and requiring decades to build the first problem is that no fusion reactor has ever produced energy, instead they use immense amounts of electricity to produce plasmas that can only be stabilized for a few seconds before the reaction hits the chamber walls and is extinguished, so there is no experimental evidence that the reactor will work at all, much less produce power but the problem with fusion reactors is that the very concept is impossible, of course the biggest flaw in their theory is that the sun is not a fusion reactor, there is no evidence to support a fusion model of the sun and much evidence which contradicts the theory but they have yet another logical problem, if you are trying to make a small sun on earth then why are tokamaks shaped like a doughnut? the sun is clearly a sphere so why try to turn it into a toroid? there is no mainstream scientific answer to these logical questions, the scientists working on the project simply have no idea what they are doing or they are on the take I don't know about all the science. I'm a simple man. But I don't care. Melanie can talk to me all day about fusion and I'll just watch – er... I mean... listen ;-) – Quote Link to post Share on other sites
killing raven sun 65 Posted January 15 Author Share Posted January 15 10 hours ago, oz93666 said: We agree it appears the sun is mostly electrically powered , neutrinos indicate 1/3 of the power comes from fusion , so 2/3 must come from electrical discharge ... 1. all of the suns input energy is electrical 2. fusion on the suns surface is a product of the plasma discharge 3. observed solar neutrinos confirm the above the invention of neutrino flavor is pseudo science, the reason there appears to be three flavors is because three different detectors measure various attributes of the same particle, this is due to superposition, if you built more detectors you would "find" more neutrinos, total fakery 11 hours ago, oz93666 said: But fusing small atoms together does release great energy ,as proven by the hydrogen bomb , and many particle physics experiments , so the basic theory is right ... no, the basic theory is wrong, there are many flaws but i will just point out one of the big ones, no nuclear fire can produce the corona, mainstream scientists have no credible explanation for how the corona forms 11 hours ago, oz93666 said: They use a toroid just because of the practicality of magnetic confinement no they dont, there is no good reason to prefer a toroid over a sphere Quote Research has investigated whether spherical tokamaks are a route to lower cost reactors. Further research is needed to better understand how such devices scale. Even in the event that STs do not lead to lower cost approaches to power generation, they are still lower cost in general; this makes them attractive devices for studying plasma physics, or as high-energy neutron sources. the whole project seems like it is designed to fail so they choose the toroid as it is harder to work with Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wayfaring Stranger 4 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 People also believe the inner core is solid iron surrounded my molten iron while the temp goes higher the deeper you go. Vaporized iron is what you get after the solid to molten stage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oz93666 1,346 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 7 minutes ago, Wayfaring Stranger said: People also believe the inner core is solid iron surrounded my molten iron while the temp goes higher the deeper you go. Vaporized iron is what you get after the solid to molten stage. You're talking about the Earth ... The incredible pressures near the center of the Earth means that Iron will be SOLID at 5,000 C , without this pressure it would vaporize. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
killing raven sun 65 Posted January 17 Author Share Posted January 17 both of you really need to check your house for ether leaks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wayfaring Stranger 4 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 It's all good here Sherlock, the leak must be on your end. If you can power a sub with a reactor why not a city or a large industrial area. The fragile miles of transmission lines are the only causality. If can boil water with some DU then you should be able to spin a turbine gen set. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
killing raven sun 65 Posted January 17 Author Share Posted January 17 2 minutes ago, Wayfaring Stranger said: If you can power a sub with a reactor why not a city or a large industrial area. The fragile miles of transmission lines are the only causality. If can boil water with some DU then you should be able to spin a turbine gen set. do you even know the difference between fusion and fission? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wayfaring Stranger 4 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Yeah, do you know how to construct a falling chain genset? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
killing raven sun 65 Posted January 17 Author Share Posted January 17 20 minutes ago, Wayfaring Stranger said: Yeah, do you know how to construct a falling chain genset? i didnt think you did either, so maybe learn up on the basics of the discussion before interjecting your off topic nonsense Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wayfaring Stranger 4 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 (edited) "People also believe the inner core is solid iron surrounded my molten iron while the temp goes higher the deeper you go. Vaporized iron is what you get after the solid to molten stage. " Good point, the topic really ended with the OP. Bye. Edited January 17 by Wayfaring Stranger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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