Earth can be both flat and a globe simultaneously...

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That the Earth is a globe is undeniable but it may be possible for it to also be flat at the same time.

Imagine, if you will, the Earth is a flat piece of rock hurtling through space at a significant fraction of the speed of light, consequent of the big bang and we exist on the forward facing plane of that rock.

Relativity shows that matter gains mass the closer to the speed of light it travels, with increasingly massive amounts of energy required to try to increase speed.

Objects with large masses traveling near the speed of light can slow spacetime and curve space around itself.

Imagine again if you will that the Earth is travelling very near the speed of light and consequently has enough mass to curve the very space it exists within. That flat Earth could then be curved into the appearance of a ball with us existing on the outer plane.

If you're still following this lol, a couple of things about Earth could be explained if what you've just imagined were actually true...

Gravity. Stuff falls to the ground. Or does it...? Einstein said that there is no force acting on falling objects to pull them towards the Earth and that it was as if the Earth was travelling up to meet the object that was simply at a fixed point in space until the Earth arrived and pushed it along again.

If we exist on the forward face of a moving flat rock and we jump into the air that moving rock would travels up to meet us but to us it would appear that we were pulled down to the rock by 'gravity'. If the flat rock is so massive it has curved the space it exists within in on itself that flat Earth would be curved too with that space. It would remain flat and travelling with us on the forward facing plane but due to curvature would appear to us to be globular.

We could jump into the air at any point on the surface of the Earth and the Earth would still be travelling up to meet us because it is fundamentally flat and travelling forward but existing as a globe in curved space.

Would explain too why the surface of the globe Earth doesn't knit together very well at certain points around that surface and why science has never been able to detect a graviton...

Personally, I'm not really bothered if the Earth is flat or round lol, but having a lazy coffee this morning in our lockdowned dystopia, I found the closed flat Earth thread and had a bit of a ponder about it. Please feel free to correct my reasoning with reasoning of your own and hopefully I will learn something

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Hmmm... Interesting to imagine. I personally prefer the vorticentric model. The sun hurtling through space at near the speed of light orbiting the galaxy, and the planets being dragged behind.

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2 hours ago, Johnnysmithy said:

Interesting idea but wouldn't there be signs of the orbiting bodies slowing down and lagging behind the sun after 4+ billion years of it happening? Also, wouldn't the flight path of far flung spacecraft like Voyager, traveling outside of the solar system, reveal the effect in comparison by being free of our system?

Objects travelling at or very near the speed of light is key still though. Perhaps a sun traveling vorticentrically would also pull the curved space around itself along as it travels and consequently the planets in that curved space?

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I dunno, but centrifugal force of a sun around a galaxy might be able to be a self sustainable mechanism... My science may be way out, but I find the picture of a vorticentric system harmonic.

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Earth is much more than flat and round. A normal human consciousness can only reproduce very simple shapes. 95% is hidden because neither cameras nor human eyes can reproduce all the layers of the entirety. And successfully reflect in themselves, where something is in function at that exact moment. It might turn out that when some layers are assigned simultaneously, a different picture of reality manifests itself. But under normal conditions, it simply reflects a very fragmented, vague image. To use a metaphor, earth and all perceptible luminaries are embedded in something much larger. And it is all one. Of course, this is pure speculation, since humans have determined what reality is supposed to be.

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On 1/7/2021 at 4:51 AM, AnarchicBreeze said:

That the Earth is a globe is undeniable but it may be possible for it to also be flat at the same time.

Imagine, if you will, the Earth is a flat piece of rock hurtling through space at a significant fraction of the speed of light, consequent of the big bang and we exist on the forward facing plane of that rock.

Relativity shows that matter gains mass the closer to the speed of light it travels, with increasingly massive amounts of energy required to try to increase speed.

Objects with large masses traveling near the speed of light can slow spacetime and curve space around itself.

Imagine again if you will that the Earth is travelling very near the speed of light and consequently has enough mass to curve the very space it exists within. That flat Earth could then be curved into the appearance of a ball with us existing on the outer plane.

If you're still following this lol, a couple of things about Earth could be explained if what you've just imagined were actually true...

Gravity. Stuff falls to the ground. Or does it...? Einstein said that there is no force acting on falling objects to pull them towards the Earth and that it was as if the Earth was travelling up to meet the object that was simply at a fixed point in space until the Earth arrived and pushed it along again.

If we exist on the forward face of a moving flat rock and we jump into the air that moving rock would travels up to meet us but to us it would appear that we were pulled down to the rock by 'gravity'. If the flat rock is so massive it has curved the space it exists within in on itself that flat Earth would be curved too with that space. It would remain flat and travelling with us on the forward facing plane but due to curvature would appear to us to be globular.

We could jump into the air at any point on the surface of the Earth and the Earth would still be travelling up to meet us because it is fundamentally flat and travelling forward but existing as a globe in curved space.

Would explain too why the surface of the globe Earth doesn't knit together very well at certain points around that surface and why science has never been able to detect a graviton...

Personally, I'm not really bothered if the Earth is flat or round lol, but having a lazy coffee this morning in our lockdowned dystopia, I found the closed flat Earth thread and had a bit of a ponder about it. Please feel free to correct my reasoning with reasoning of your own and hopefully I will learn something

Time, space and causation 'arise' first, matter afterwards.

Gravity is not what they say it is.

The elemental 'transformation' to stages of matter and the forces of attraction between those elements determines a lot of what we see.

There is nothing hurtling through space. Nowhere to hurtle to. The earth is not 'traveling' anywhere.

Earth itself is the manifestation of the time-space-causality loop.

It is an energetic manifestation condensed to matter. In the version we see, matter is manifested very densely and tangibly and solid form because the experiencer ie. us are channelling a dense frequency because we are low level forms.

Hence the limits of this prison have a firewall of 'frequencies' keeping other dimensions/ energy states out of reach to us--and that prison wall to our eyes might appear as curved- because of the nature of how the reality is projected.

We are caught in the timeline due to causation giving rise to the forms we see. Our body forms are microcosmic representations of that truth. Understand how space, water, mind energy etc. works within you and the earth body becomes clearer.

The earth form is a sandbox for god consciousness to experience life. The limits of our senses are the limits of the horizons we see.

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1 hour ago, m754 said:

The earth form is a sandbox for god consciousness to experience life. The limits of our senses are the limits of the horizons we see.

I like that. And it is possible to perceive various layers and interconnecting sub-segments at the same time. Something extraordinary unveils itself. Absolute perfection of something far superior. Where everything seems to have a different meaning. Which is in clear contradiction to the current world view, and to all predecessors. When a consciousness is confronted with this, it has to acknowledge that it is not of natural origin. Then the process starts to redefine reality. The old goes and it is finally properly reflected. This is perceived by something. A seemingly interesting learning process will then probably take place. As if something is just waiting for this consciousness to ask the right questions and is then very eager to demonstrate.

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On 10/11/2021 at 4:07 PM, m754 said:

Time, space and causation 'arise' first, matter afterwards.

Gravity is not what they say it is.

The elemental 'transformation' to stages of matter and the forces of attraction between those elements determines a lot of what we see.

There is nothing hurtling through space. Nowhere to hurtle to. The earth is not 'traveling' anywhere.

Earth itself is the manifestation of the time-space-causality loop.

It is an energetic manifestation condensed to matter. In the version we see, matter is manifested very densely and tangibly and solid form because the experiencer ie. us are channelling a dense frequency because we are low level forms.

Hence the limits of this prison have a firewall of 'frequencies' keeping other dimensions/ energy states out of reach to us--and that prison wall to our eyes might appear as curved- because of the nature of how the reality is projected.

We are caught in the timeline due to causation giving rise to the forms we see. Our body forms are microcosmic representations of that truth. Understand how space, water, mind energy etc. works within you and the earth body becomes clearer.

The earth form is a sandbox for god consciousness to experience life. The limits of our senses are the limits of the horizons we see.

Hi m754,

If you don't mind me asking, do you think that this applies only to Earth, all to all other planets?

What I'm asking is, what is your view of Universe? Are there other similar planets to Earth out there, where god consciousness can experience life,

or is our beautiful planet unique?

Excellent post by the way, I like it very much.

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On 10/25/2021 at 6:28 PM, XelNaga said:

Hi m754,

If you don't mind me asking, do you think that this applies only to Earth, all to all other planets?

What I'm asking is, what is your view of Universe? Are there other similar planets to Earth out there, where god consciousness can experience life,

or is our beautiful planet unique?

Excellent post by the way, I like it very much.

One can only speculate and make up stories based on intuition, observation, readings but these may very well be just stories.. we can’t know the truth.

From my understanding--

God consciousness is in everything seen and unseen, manifest or not.

Wherever the God consciousness experiences life, that is the earth body. There is nothing 'alien' per se, everything has a reason from that perspective of experiencing earth body. There are no random planets existing separately experiencing life differently. The point of attention that experiences life is the earth body/ God’s playground.

What we have become reduced to, due to ego identification, is limited to a tiny, tiny point of attention due to infatuation with narrow labels, and this ego hold prevents us from experiencing (let alone controlling) the rest of creative energies existing around us.

And that is how we became slaves to the cabal, archons, or whatever we might call them. It was our own surrender to ego based desires, but the ego made up stories about how something darker captured us and made us slaves against our wishes. This was done so the ego could justify to itself why it is still trapped here.

But we are still the same consciousness, just not in our godly and true nature. The purpose of human life is to bridge that chasm between what we are now and our true forms by shedding the ego attachments to labels. Instead we fight ever more vociferously for what we identify as ours. Thus the downfall.

In higher 'frequency'/ higher dimension playgrounds, the earth body could be experienced with more control over the manifestation. Those would be the heavens described in mythology and religions. At that stage, each unit of attention/ experiencer was aware of who they are and therefore always left the game of their own volition. There was no trap.

The point the ego came to play and took hold was when the game was moved to a stage of 'simulation' where the god consciousness pretended not to remember who it was. That gap was when the dark forces that were kept in hibernation in a 'containment zone' got a chance to be invited to play because the ego wanted more and more control over what it had now labelled as others. The ego created a backdrop story of how those dark forces could control us, wanted to rule us, could shape-shift or were in some way obsessed with us. Just a story for justifying our own weaknesses.  And from there on the dream descended to 'hell'.

As for space and universe--

Space does not occupy ‘space’ in physical terms of miles or any unit of distance. It does not exist physically. It is the un-manifest state of pure energy. In other words, it is a highly compressed state of possibilities, not accessible by us. Space is a ‘possibility’. It is not infinity extending out to large distances, it's like aether or some primordial  energy, that carries the building blocks for manifestation of life/ matter. Access is denied to us for what we are not ready for.

In a nutshell, those planetary beings are ‘objects’ if you wish to conquer them or look at them with the eyes of a dumb human slave prisoner POS, and will then appear so in the reality you experience.. and can possibly be destructive if meddled with; but if approached with an enlightened perspective, they show themselves to be the divine forms they are..

These were energy forms in original reality.  In the fake copy reflection we see everything has been reduced to a physical freeze-frame object form.

In comparative terms of time we seem to have eternity to play with---but the solid state objects are only appearing solid because of our time perception and our tiny life spans that have no capacity to observe their true forms/ 'speed'/ 'shape'.

The ego playing the game knows this and therefore within that freeze-frame pause, the ego squeezes out maximum game time and attempts to create a parallel state of existence that can be sustained apart from God body—unplugged from Divine power source==hence the transition to virtual life forms.

The original dream of God, was obviously powered by God Consciousness, but the fake copy we are living in, is not powered by the original source directly, more like a booster or something that is trying to amplify it... The reality we are experiencing is a poor fake copy of original reality and therefore exists on borrowed energy and hence everything dies here.

That is why our movies from 'holly' magic factory are so much more magical than our mundane dull lives. The star wars, aliens, other planets’ connecting with us, are stories, from another storyline. What they have done is copy the storyline from the original blueprint. We ourselves are not doing anything magical. We are at the dead end of the energy debt cycle and in a state of high entropy.   We are not on way to space—ROFLOL!---Our reality is going down to nothingness—to a fake virtual world. We are going round and round in circles.

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