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Only one person staging a coup and that's Pelosi:

 

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2021-01-08/joint-chiefs-chairman-distances-pentagon-from-talk-of-disarming-trump

 

Now what doesn't add up is seeking to remove Trump under the 25th amendment and impeach him. Why bother to go through all that trouble if he is leaving in 12 days? Also, there would be no time to exercise such an option, if he leaves in 12 days. So why the effort? Sounds like panic to me. Funny how the pentagon informed Pelosi they would not do this because this would be a coup as he is still commander in chief. What a bunch of fuckin hypocrites. I'm finding this hilarious now. 

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What's new? Trump and Biden both willingly serve the very same masters and are just playing more 'Divide And Conquer' games with the U.S. population. It's all the PTB know and I don't see them getting

lol u have the wrong website buddy. 

That statement is not objective.  Emotive and loaded use of words.    I've watched live Senate hearings and listened to witnesses. I've seen video footage back some statements up. 

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I listen to people debating across the internet and i see the various agendas being played out

 

I listen to people who claim to be 'marxists' and 'socialists' putting down trump supporters and it amazes me that they can't see the sheer number of corporations including all the big tech and silicon valley companies that are lining up against trump supporters

 

How can they be in a struggle against the oligarchic class if they are attacking the same people as the oligarchic class are attacking?

 

Trump supporters are basically people who work for a living or what socialists would call 'the working class' whilst the people demonising them like twitter, facebook, google, CNN etc are the people who live off their investments ie the 'capitalist class'

 

Neo-marxism seems to me to be nothing more than the grassroots attack dog of the capitalist class who are aiming to destroy the working middle of society to create a two tier neo-fuedal society

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On 1/8/2021 at 8:00 AM, Kovidiot said:

I stole that from a poster on September clues forum and it makes perfect sense to me. He said and i quote:

 

'Let me say something about the 'Capitol shooting' of a woman, draped in Stars n Stripes.

The woman was wearing a backpack, it looked like a cushion to protect her from the fall after being fake shot in the neck.

The cameraman sees her falling, but doesn't capture the landing, instead he focuses on 'reactions'. No police officer put pressure on the wound; they only cared about pushing people away, so they don't see what's going on. She received no immediate medical attention!

Most people will run and hide at the sound of a gunshot. It's not normal to stick around for the sake of capturing 'money shots'. - They would value their life more than that.

It's a psyop. There's a phrase and it's 'I want to believe'. That is powerful, you can allow yourself to believe anything as long as it matches your view on life'

She was definitely a crisis actor.

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13 hours ago, bradlaw said:

 

You are abusing fellow members, perhaps you should 'wake the fuck up'? You say it is obvious now?

 

Have you made attempts to verify this video and look at it's claim? Read this whole page. I paste summary because you probably will not.

 

https://attivissimo.blogspot.com/2021/01/for-general-flynn-and-anyone-else-who.html

 

 

Quick summary: 

  • This is just a photo of a sheet of paper of unknown origin. No docket number, no source, no legal filing, nothing. Do you really want to trust it?
  • There is no such thing as a “Fucino Tower” in Italy. A “Fucino” satellite communications facility exists, but it has no towers. There is no building there known as “Fucino Tower”. Satellite communication stations are not radio towers. Never have been. They look like big dishes. They look like Arecibo, Jodrell Bank, Goldstone, Parkes. See for yourselves.
  • People with the names mentioned in the “affidavit” actually do exist in Italy, but that does not imply or prove that they committed electoral fraud in the US. You exist, your name is available online: if somebody used it in a made-up allegation, would that prove you’re guilty? Exactly.
  • An edited video of the alleged lawyer appears to be merely reporting that a person made a sworn statement before him; it is not evidence and it is not an endorsement by the lawyer.
  • The person who allegedly made the statement is a convicted criminal. Do you really want to trust the unsubstantiated words of a criminal?
  • Also, do you really want to claim that one IT guy in Italy was able to hack the voting system of your entire country? What are you, a bunch of amateurs? Do you realize how ridiculous this whole story sounds?
  • Please note that this article has been and will be rewritten extensively to include new information as it becomes available.

 

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1 hour ago, AlpineWhite said:

They want to impeach him because under US law an impeached president can't run for ANY public office again. This is all about preventing him from running for President in 2024 or running for Senate.

 

Or maybe he was an astonishing jackass making people try to usurp the USA legal constitution!

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4 minutes ago, Doctor What said:

 

How was this done with no evidence to prove?

 

If you were being totally objective and went looking then you'd find stacks of evidence. 

That no-one would act on that evidence is a whole other topic.. 

 

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1 hour ago, Basket Case said:

 

If you were being totally objective and went looking then you'd find stacks of evidence. 

That no-one would act on that evidence is a whole other topic.. 

 

 

What is objective to do with it? The USA president incited a mob for marching on Capitol Hill. Nobody with brains could not understand where this will lead. I have not found evidence for election fraud, and neither have legal people for this mad president. If you say the opposite, give me links to real prove of this.

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19 minutes ago, Doctor What said:

 

What is objective to do with it? The USA president incited a mob for marching on Capitol Hill. Nobody with brains could not understand where this will lead. I have not found evidence for election fraud, and neither have legal people for this mad president. If you say the opposite, give me links to real prove of this.

And why should anyone on here have to give you links to real (sic) prove ‘this’

who are you to request such evidence. We do not have to justify anything to you.

 

Everyone on here has watched and read an ocean of evidence - and that evidence keeps rolling in thanks to the people on this forum. If you’re not of a like mind, then kindly do us all a favour and f-off!

 

It is not a forum for justifying what we know to some minor bacteria like you. Ciao! 

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26 minutes ago, Doctor What said:

The USA president incited a mob for marching on Capitol Hill.

 

That statement is not objective. 

Emotive and loaded use of words. 

 

I've watched live Senate hearings and listened to witnesses. I've seen video footage back some statements up. 

I've looked at people presenting and discussing the spike in Bidens votes simultaneously across several States. 

The evidence is there. 

Why it isn't being acknowledged and acted on is anyone's guess. 

 

I'm not a Trump supporter. But I see the Media against him. I see him being miss-quoted. I see him being miss-represented. 

Something ain't right. The MSM stink....and they HATE him. 

BC 

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4 hours ago, AlpineWhite said:

Morpheus,

 

They want to impeach him because under US law an impeached president can't run for ANY public office again. This is all about preventing him from running for President in 2024 or running for Senate.

Does it matter when the plan is to never have election again. And it is not like election mattered anyway. All the politicians serves the same masters

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10 hours ago, Doctor What said:

 

You are abusing fellow members, perhaps you should 'wake the fuck up'? You say it is obvious now?

 

Have you made attempts to verify this video and look at it's claim? Read this whole page. I paste summary because you probably will not.

 

https://attivissimo.blogspot.com/2021/01/for-general-flynn-and-anyone-else-who.html

 

 

Quick summary: 

  • This is just a photo of a sheet of paper of unknown origin. No docket number, no source, no legal filing, nothing. Do you really want to trust it?
  • There is no such thing as a “Fucino Tower” in Italy. A “Fucino” satellite communications facility exists, but it has no towers. There is no building there known as “Fucino Tower”. Satellite communication stations are not radio towers. Never have been. They look like big dishes. They look like Arecibo, Jodrell Bank, Goldstone, Parkes. See for yourselves.
  • People with the names mentioned in the “affidavit” actually do exist in Italy, but that does not imply or prove that they committed electoral fraud in the US. You exist, your name is available online: if somebody used it in a made-up allegation, would that prove you’re guilty? Exactly.
  • An edited video of the alleged lawyer appears to be merely reporting that a person made a sworn statement before him; it is not evidence and it is not an endorsement by the lawyer.
  • The person who allegedly made the statement is a convicted criminal. Do you really want to trust the unsubstantiated words of a criminal?
  • Also, do you really want to claim that one IT guy in Italy was able to hack the voting system of your entire country? What are you, a bunch of amateurs? Do you realize how ridiculous this whole story sounds?
  • Please note that this article has been and will be rewritten extensively to include new information as it becomes available.

 

 

 

From the own link you sent ... sums it up !

 

"You are missing the point. The whistleblower was just a worker bee. He was just one small dog in the wheel of this huge conspiracy and you are wrong on many points. Dominion voting systems does use servers in Germany thru a company called Scytl. Just wait a a few days and you will see that this is for real. And the affidavit letter is just that. It’s an affidavit which is just a legal document written up by a lawyer and signed by the person who is making the statement under oath. The affidavit will then get filed with a court. This isn’t an official court document until it’s filed."

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8 hours ago, bradlaw said:

 

 

From the own link you sent ... sums it up !

 

"You are missing the point. The whistleblower was just a worker bee. He was just one small dog in the wheel of this huge conspiracy and you are wrong on many points. Dominion voting systems does use servers in Germany thru a company called Scytl. Just wait a a few days and you will see that this is for real. And the affidavit letter is just that. It’s an affidavit which is just a legal document written up by a lawyer and signed by the person who is making the statement under oath. The affidavit will then get filed with a court. This isn’t an official court document until it’s filed."

 

 

Your quote from the link sums zero. You have been a victim of fake internet news.

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15 hours ago, Basket Case said:

That statement is not objective.  Emotive and loaded use of words. 

 

He addressed a big crowd during senate confirming Biden and told them to march on Capitol Hill. He of course said he would be with them, one of his lies.

 

15 hours ago, Basket Case said:

I've watched live Senate hearings and listened to witnesses. I've seen video footage back some statements up. 

 

 

If this evidence is available legal teams would use it. They have issued none.

 

15 hours ago, Basket Case said:

I've looked at people presenting and discussing the spike in Bidens votes simultaneously across several States. The evidence is there. 

 

 

This is evidence for point when block postal votes added to system. 

 

Fact check: No fraud in Wisconsin overnight vote spike (usatoday.com)

 

15 hours ago, Basket Case said:

The evidence is there.  Why it isn't being acknowledged and acted on is anyone's guess. 

 

Because it isn't there and conspiracies are using bad observations.

 

15 hours ago, Basket Case said:

I'm not a Trump supporter. But I see the Media against him. I see him being miss-quoted. I see him being miss-represented. 

 

 

I see also a very crazy man on Twitter who is not fit for being President.

 

15 hours ago, Basket Case said:

Something ain't right. The MSM stink....and they HATE him.  

 

He is a very bad politician, he is very egotistical and some bad past press. It is not pointers for election fraud.

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15 hours ago, Chris K said:

And why should anyone on here have to give you links to real (sic) prove ‘this’

who are you to request such evidence. We do not have to justify anything to you.

 

Because someone makes this claim! I am not addressing to you, to 'AlpineWhite' made the claim. In being a smart arse, you place the (sic) emphasis on erroneous section of quote, since this was prove instead of proof you failed to be a good smart arse!

 

15 hours ago, Chris K said:

Everyone on here has watched and read an ocean of evidence - and that evidence keeps rolling in thanks to the people on this forum.

 

 An ocean that one of the richest men around has no legal teams able to find it!! 'Rolling in' on here is quite clearly social media inaccuracies and bad fake news.

      

15 hours ago, Chris K said:

If you’re not of a like mind, then kindly do us all a favour and f-off!

 

To be like mind, I must disregard correct evidence, admire idiotic president and be red neck republican. No thank you. You f-off with your rudeness.

 

15 hours ago, Chris K said:

It is not a forum for justifying what we know to some minor bacteria like you. Ciao! 

 

Are you the leader of this forum? Then keep your rudeness to yourself and swallow the bitter pill. Trump is a jackass and will be gone in a week.

 

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To me it seems both sides are trying to cause a race war, both sides are instigating their fringe groups to create unrest, polarise the minds of the more moderate left and right. 

They were demonstrators, not terrorists, but they were also dumb, easily manipulated and I suspect that many of those who were breaking windows, masks, gloves will never be found.

Just like the BLM demonstrations, some people started making speeches, deliberately designed to stir up the other side.

People are easily manipulated into fighting other people's battles. They are easily manipulated for trashing their own neighbourhoods to show how angry they are, and to the other side, how scary they are so gun shops get busy.

People are just being used, and I'm not sure if they aren't enjoying the moment.

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4 hours ago, numnuts said:

Some elements within the mass media are still trying to call this an 'attempted coup'. Yeah, right. Numnuts wept... 😀

 

There's still next week. :) They just need better planning next time. Storming the front without covering the exits was a major mistake. Next week there will be plenty of Patriots in town to do what was originally planned. The MSM is talking about thousands of troops being deployed but most those troops are loyal to their oaths and loyal to Trump.

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23 hours ago, Doctor What said:

 

What is objective to do with it? The USA president incited a mob for marching on Capitol Hill. Nobody with brains could not understand where this will lead. I have not found evidence for election fraud, and neither have legal people for this mad president. If you say the opposite, give me links to real prove of this.

 

Are you serious?

There is like an endless list of proof. Criminals in court got charged with far less evidence.

 

- There are eyewitness reports

- There is video material that shows illegal activities

- People that were dead voted

- People that are not a citizen of state voted

- There were no Id checks in many areas, literally anyone could walk in or even vote a couple of times

- There were overvotes of 150%, 200%, 300% and 400%, which means that therewere more votes counted than voters exist, which is impossible to be legit votes.

Example: 100 people vote and 400 votes get counted.

- Biden, who basically had no real campaign suddenly is the most popular president in the history of the United States (although this isnt direct proof, its basically impossible)

- Vote counting stopped in between and they counted with no repuplican eyewitness all arround, which is also ilegal.

- The system itself flipped voting counts directly

 

Thats just things on top of my head. There is a lot more.

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2 hours ago, Michael said:

There is like an endless list of proof. Criminals in court got charged with far less evidence.

 

Are you of any mind to have your opinion turned, as I am? 

 

2 hours ago, Michael said:

- There are eyewitness reports

 

This is called hearsay and amounts to a possibility of a local interference.

 

Trump's star election fraud witness was so bad Giuliani had to 'shush' her | Metro Video

 

2 hours ago, Michael said:

- There is video material that shows illegal activities

 

 

If there was video of such, it was not presented as evidence. Are you sure it is not fake news? Where is this?

 

 

2 hours ago, Michael said:

- People that were dead voted

- People that are not a citizen of state voted

- There were no Id checks in many areas, literally anyone could walk in or even vote a couple of times

- There were overvotes of 150%, 200%, 300% and 400%, which means that therewere more votes counted than voters exist, which is impossible to be legit votes.

Example: 100 people vote and 400 votes get counted.

- Biden, who basically had no real campaign suddenly is the most popular president in the history of the United States (although this isnt direct proof, its basically impossible)

- Vote counting stopped in between and they counted with no repuplican eyewitness all arround, which is also ilegal.

- The system itself flipped voting counts directly

 

Thats just things on top of my head. There is a lot more.

 

It's easier to just paste BBC link and NY Times reporting :

 

US election 2020: Five viral vote claims fact-checked - BBC News

Fact-Checking Trump's Debunked Election Claims in Georgia Call - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

 

President Trump, in an hourlong telephone call with Georgia’s Republican secretary of state, repeated a number of false and misleading claims about election results in the state that have been circulating on social media. Here’s a fact check.

WHAT MR. TRUMP SAID

“Then it was stuffed with votes. They weren’t in an official voter box, they were in what looked to be suitcases or trunks, suitcases but they weren’t in voter boxes. The minimum number it could be because we watched it and they watched it certified in slow motion instant replay if you can believe it, but it had slow motion and it was magnified many times over, and the minimum it was 18,000 ballots, all for Biden.”

False. Mr. Trump was most likely referring to debunked claims that a water leak at a vote counting location in Fulton County forced an evacuation and made it possible for trunks full of ballots to be rolled in. Election officials have said and surveillance videos show that this did not happen.

A water leak caused a delay for about two hours in vote counting at the State Farm Arena, but no ballots or equipment were damaged. Georgia’s chief election investigator, Frances Watson, testified that a “review of the entire security footage revealed that there were no mystery ballots that were brought in from an unknown location and hidden under tables.”

 

Throughout the phone call, Mr. Trump also repeatedly suggested that an election worker seen in the surveillance videos “stuffed the boxes” and “they thought she’d be in jail” — referring to a baseless conspiracy theory promoted on social media.

 
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[Read more about the voting in Georgia so far.]

WHAT MR. TRUMP SAID

“There were no poll watchers there. There were no Democrats or Republicans. There was no security there.”

This is misleading. Election observers and journalists were present at State Farm Arena when the water leak occurred. They were not asked to leave, Ms. Watson said, but simply “left on their own” when they saw one group of workers, who had completed their task, leave.

 
 

WHAT MR. TRUMP SAID

“So dead people voted. And I think the number is close to 5,000 people.”

False. The actual number was two, Brad Raffensperger, Georgia’s secretary of state, told the president in the call.

WHAT MR. TRUMP SAID

“You had out-of-state voters — they voted in Georgia but they were from out of state — of 4,925.”

This is misleading. Ryan Germany, the chief counsel for Mr. Raffensperger’s office, refuted this description in the call.

“Everyone we’ve been through are people that lived in Georgia, moved to a different state, but then moved back to Georgia legitimately,” he said. “They moved back in years ago. This was not like something just before the election. So there’s something about that data that, it’s just not accurate.”

WHAT MR. TRUMP SAID

“In Fulton County and other areas — and this may or may not be true, because this just came up this morning — that they are burning their ballots, that they are shredding ballots, shredding ballots and removing equipment. They are changing the equipment on the Dominion machines, and you know that’s not legal.”

False. Mr. Trump was likely referring to images of Fulton County ballots that circulated on social media and posted by a supporter, Patrick Byrne, the former chief executive of Overstock.

The photos showed piles of ballots that were visibly not filled out and wrapped in plastic. Mr. Byrne characterized the ballots as “counterfeit” and said they were later shredded.

But those images were simply of emergency backup ballots, said Gabriel Sterling, a Republican official who is the voting system implementation manager in Georgia. State law requires counties to prepare additional paper ballots in case voting machines cannot be used.

Dominion Voting Systems, which has been the subject of countless conspiracy theories and false rumors, did not remove any machinery from Fulton County, Mr. Germany told the president.

WHAT MR. TRUMP SAID

“In Detroit, we had 139 percent of the people voted. That’s not too good. In Pennsylvania, they had well over 200,000 more votes than they had people voting.”

 

 

False. About 51 percent of registered voters and 38 percent of the entire population cast a ballot in Detroit.

The figure for Pennsylvania was a reference to faulty analysis conducted by state Republican lawmakers. The analysis relied on a voter registration database that Pennsylvania's Department of State said was incomplete as a few counties — including Philadelphia and Allegheny Counties, the two largest in the state — had yet to fully upload their data. The department called the analysis “obvious misinformation.”

WHAT MR. TRUMP SAID

“She got you to sign a totally unconstitutional agreement, which is a disastrous agreement. You can’t check signatures. I can’t imagine you’re allowed to do harvesting, I guess, in that agreement.”

False. This was an inaccurate reference to a settlement between Georgia and the Democratic Party. Under the March settlement, officials must notify voters whose signatures were rejected within three business days and give them the chance to correct issues. It does not bar officials from verifying signatures and does not allow “harvesting,” or collecting and dropping off ballots in bulk.

“Harvesting is still illegal in the state of Georgia. And that settlement agreement did not change that one iota,” Mr. Raffensperger said in the call.

 

2 hours ago, Michael said:

- Biden, who basically had no real campaign suddenly is the most popular president in the history of the United States (although this isnt direct proof, its basically impossible)

This is just absurd claim, it is not impossible in the slightest ways. The useless Trump presidency ensured record Democratic vote. 

 

Regarding my two links One thing I learn very quickly with all conspiracy is that every mainstream evidence must be dismissed, but no alternate evidence has the same action. Legal teams who work for Trump will find every single detail to prove things. They did not present any thing.

 

 

 

 

 

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