If the virus doesn’t exist...

[Ziggy Sawdust]

Covid is the flu rebranded.

[DarianF]

1 minute ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

Covid is the flu rebranded.

 

"CDC estimates that influenza has resulted in between 9 million – 45 million illnesses, between 140,000 – 810,000 hospitalizations and between 12,000 – 61,000 deaths annually since 2010." https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html

 

And all that time, who gave a shit? Exactly. No one. No lockdowns. No mask mandates, etc. Now suddenly all these freaks come out of the woodwork and care about our health. Yeah right.

[Malbec]

I understand where the original poster is coming from, as I’ve probably heard of approx 10 people having “Covid”, some seriously ill and having paramedic attention and one (91yo underlying conditions) has died. So, the 91yo was obviously due to due anyway, so that’s a good example of labelling a normal death as Covid. But the spate of illnesses, is possibly psychological out of fear/ stress and anxiety? Possibly. Or, it’s normal for people to become ill when heir body is overloaded with toxins, from diet or lifestyle. But “believers” would hear those numbers and think they were all ill with Covid. 
 

however, I would suggest that the people claiming to have Covid seem to be trying to get in on the act. And then are desperate to be part of this prominent “event” (some attention seeking some through fear), so due to the massive list of symptoms people seem to almost make their symptoms fit... so any hint of any kind of illness is then exaggerated - either literally or in their mind, due to the prominence of the supposed pandemic in their mind. (Just thoughts) 

[Macnamara]

2 hours ago, Malbec said:

I understand where the original poster is coming from, as I’ve probably heard of approx 10 people having “Covid”, some seriously ill and having paramedic attention and one (91yo underlying conditions) has died. So, the 91yo was obviously due to due anyway, so that’s a good example of labelling a normal death as Covid. But the spate of illnesses, is possibly psychological out of fear/ stress and anxiety?

 

 

There is a spate of illness every year in winter time and its called 'flu season'

 

If there is something occuring on top of that then we should expect to see drastic increases in overall mortality compared to previous years over a ten year average

 

We are not seeing that but what we are seeing is that the lockdowns themselves kill people and will create 'excess deaths'

[oz93666]

On 12/31/2020 at 2:38 AM, Moonlight said:

 

 

Both excellent books ....We tend to forget the Annunaki are behind all this , behind covid . They are master geneticists and would not be so unimaginative as to release a normal flue bug ... This is something very special they've had in the pipe line , holding it back for the final drama ...

 

it's the Zombie Apocalypse Virus .... (fanfare) 

 

This virus is not designed to kill you ! .... Those who die are just the old and frail , who cannot withstand the internal restructuring the virus causes ... Most will have no symptoms , half the UK may already have undergone the covid transformation  ... The government hypes the few deaths to get people to take the vaccine.

 

So there maybe many million dormant zombies , waiting for 5G to be cranked up , when they will be coming to eat you .... The military has been preparing for this with training exercises , your local council has contingency plans for this threat .. so get ready , the Zombies may start appearing this Year !  

 

More information here ... https://forum.davidicke.com/index.php?/topic/16028-covid-zombie-apocalypse-ben-emlyn-jones/

 

[screamingeagle]

are you serious @oz93666,

[serpentine]

31 minutes ago, screamingeagle said:

are you serious @oz93666,

 

 

He might be but my contribution to the thread definitely isn't.

 

London - Summer 2021 - Tier 6

[Malbec]

6 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

 

There is a spate of illness every year in winter time and its called 'flu season'

 

If there is something occuring on top of that then we should expect to see drastic increases in overall mortality compared to previous years over a ten year average

 

We are not seeing that but what we are seeing is that the lockdowns themselves kill people and will create 'excess deaths'

Yeah, I definitely agree. I just mean that to some people who aren’t necessarily analysing figures, or reading into actual symptoms (if any) it does appear that there is a virus.
 

And that’s quite difficult to argue with, as people who supposedly have “it” say things like “it’s worse than flu” etc.... therefore, some people are jumping on the band wagon or something is causing a more serious strain or version of flu- possibly the flu vaccine? There’s not necessarily a deadly virus, and certainly no inflated deaths for this time of year, but People tend to believe first or second hand accounts of those they know or know of, particularly in relation to symptoms. So, psychologically are people exaggerating their own symptoms through fear or anxiety and making it fit? If you believe in it all and then have any hint of an illness, because of the extensive list of symptoms they probably try and make it fit.... 

 

https://mailchi.mp/thebernician.net/new-post-from-the-bernician-a4fvqb9kjg?e=12698c3fc7&fbclid=IwAR2PRA2q3YCO6w4Wz2DwkQto5tM9zBVxm431TNHgCGbh9LS0FHYaLL2scjQ

 

 

[Grumpy Owl]

On 12/30/2020 at 3:45 PM, Cgab1 said:

At work alone, we’ve had about 25 cases of covid ( abnormally high number, even if is just the flu)

 

Of those 25, how many were actually sick or had any symptoms?

 

How were these 'cases' determined? Did they all undergo a PCR test?

 

Equally there is the possibility that some people might fancy a couple of weeks off work by phoning in sick with 'Covid symptoms'.

[Macnamara]

14 hours ago, Malbec said:

And that’s quite difficult to argue with, as people who supposedly have “it” say things like “it’s worse than flu” etc.... therefore, some people are jumping on the band wagon or something is causing a more serious strain or version of flu- possibly the flu vaccine?

 

my personal belief is that there are now many harmful environmental factors in play that can damage health and  cause symptoms that can then be labelled 'covid'

 

The key areas I would shine light on are the flu vaccine which has been rolled out aggressively in recent years and the 5G roll out

 

Of course now we have a further environmental factor which is the covid injections themselves because when these inevitably cause adverse reactions those can simply be labelled 'covid'

 

In fact covid is the perfect cover to harm people in a myriad ways because almost any symptom now from psychosis to infertility to deafness etc is being blamed on 'covid'

[old-timer]

If I listed the symptoms I live with on a daily basis pro vaxxers would say (in David Icke's pi$$ taking voice) "oh, it must be that covid thing?"

If I then tell you I have had those same symptoms for year's would you believe then?

 

I am asthmatic and inhalers can make you lose your sense of taste, they can also give you a yeast infection on your tongue which affects taste.

You don't need to go rushing to the Drs if you get that particular infection, just eat live yoghurt for a few days, it really does work.

 

I also suffer with sinus problems, have done for a long while. That can cause loss of smell I just use a nasal inhaler for a day or two and it gets better.

 

Many things can cause my asthma to flair up which causes breathing problems, air fresheners, fabric softners, soap powder, flowers, cold, heat, certain paints, deodorants, perfume, perfumed soap, pets and many more.

When you live with something for a long time you become familiar with the causes.

 

Hoping that helps,

regards OT

[shabbirss]

@old-timer
I am in the same boat as you. seasonal allergic rhinitis (asthma/sinus issues daily) -
a result of a vax I was given at my uninformed age of 8

--
for all those who have supposedly passed away because of rona,
a study needs to be done.

were they wearing masks all the time? breathing in the waste air which the lungs push out
were they sanitizing all the time ? 
ie: were they weakening their immune systems because govt told them to

how were they treated if hospitalized?

did they have other complications? acute/chronic - pneumonia,heart disease,cancer, etc etc

Edited January 3, 2021 by shabbirss

[InBetweenWorlds]

  

On 1/2/2021 at 6:26 AM, oz93666 said:

 

Both excellent books ....We tend to forget the Annunaki are behind all this , behind covid . They are master geneticists and would not be so unimaginative as to release a normal flue bug ... This is something very special they've had in the pipe line , holding it back for the final drama ...

 

it's the Zombie Apocalypse Virus .... (fanfare) 

 

This virus is not designed to kill you ! .... Those who die are just the old and frail , who cannot withstand the internal restructuring the virus causes ... Most will have no symptoms , half the UK may already have undergone the covid transformation  ... The government hypes the few deaths to get people to take the vaccine.

 

So there maybe many million dormant zombies , waiting for 5G to be cranked up , when they will be coming to eat you .... The military has been preparing for this with training exercises , your local council has contingency plans for this threat .. so get ready , the Zombies may start appearing this Year !  

 

More information here ... https://forum.davidicke.com/index.php?/topic/16028-covid-zombie-apocalypse-ben-emlyn-jones/

 

Nothing would suprise me anymore. But if they want to kill of so many people, wouldn't there be a more efficient and practical way? Why would they do it like this?

[atenea]

On 12/30/2020 at 3:25 PM, Basket Case said:

 

This can and has been one of many symptoms of Flu as well. 

Doctor Vernon Coleman has explained that. 

BC 

I lost my sense of smell in March 2020 while having a strong cold. It hasn't returned. I usually have a cold every winter and I never lost my sense of smell, however this time I did.

[oz93666]

5 hours ago, InBetweenWorlds said:

  

Nothing would suprise me anymore. But if they want to kill of so many people, wouldn't there be a more efficient and practical way? Why would they do it like this?

 

The ET's behind it all are psychopathic monsters .Extremely intelligent , technologically advanced and psychic and telepathic  ..They play humanity like a computer game , they delight in fooling us and it's a big joke if we willingly que up for the vaccine , and pay for it with tax money  , and it infects us with something nasty ! They are killing themselves laughing...

In addition they want to feed the malevolent spirits they work with , and which infect (possess) them .  These spirits feed on terror energy , fear , hence the many wars the Cabal engineer . But wars only directly effect a small % of the population .... Imagine if flesh eating Zombies started to appear , in numbers , everywhere ... The average person would be in abject terror , scared of their neighbors , scared to leave their house to by food...

Hollywood has created many hundred movies along this theme, there's a reason for this  ... People have been graphically shown what a zombie apocalypse is ... and if it should start to appear in the real world , they have all these movie images in their heads already ...Fear will come instantly and automatically. 

[oldmaninbeltandbraces]

On 12/30/2020 at 4:05 PM, Seeker said:

Sorry to hear about your loss, as the person above me said. The pcr test testing positive means nothing. However, people are clearly getting ill and dying, as happens every year. Pneumonia can affect all age ranges/ health and be very serious. As we are using the pcr test then there’s is no way to know if someone has pneumonia or some other new disease as claimed. Obviously we are all here as we want to understand what’s going on, I am curious. Did the people you know get sick before or after having the test? I’ve heard stories of how some people went to hospital, caught covid and died. I find it a hard story to believe, but if the tests are doing something like Celeste Solum claimed then that could be why some healthy people are getting badly affected, along with ventilators which damage the lungs and can even kill. Of course we have geoengineering which seems to have been more relentless than ever this year, and the introduction of 5G which is damaging our bodies. From there the body has to detoxify which is what colds and flus are

Yes, that is what colds and flu are, a virus is not the infection, it's the reaction to toxicity within the body.  Also check out  https://brandnewtube.com/watch/planet-lockdown-how-and-why_wLhwaPPr7ROUJ5a.html

[oldmaninbeltandbraces]

8 hours ago, InBetweenWorlds said:

This is something very special they've had in the pipe line , holding it back for the final drama ..

World Patent number WO2016012793A1

On 12/30/2020 at 9:20 PM, Ziggy Sawdust said:

Covid is the flu rebranded.

World Patent number WO2016012793A1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[InBetweenWorlds]

 

7 hours ago, oz93666 said:

 

The ET's behind it all are psychopathic monsters .Extremely intelligent , technologically advanced and psychic and telepathic  ..They play humanity like a computer game , they delight in fooling us and it's a big joke if we willingly que up for the vaccine , and pay for it with tax money  , and it infects us with something nasty ! They are killing themselves laughing...

In addition they want to feed the malevolent spirits they work with , and which infect (possess) them .  These spirits feed on terror energy , fear , hence the many wars the Cabal engineer . But wars only directly effect a small % of the population .... Imagine if flesh eating Zombies started to appear , in numbers , everywhere ... The average person would be in abject terror , scared of their neighbors , scared to leave their house to by food...

Hollywood has created many hundred movies along this theme, there's a reason for this  ... People have been graphically shown what a zombie apocalypse is ... and if it should start to appear in the real world , they have all these movie images in their heads already ...Fear will come instantly and automatically. 

Based on other information I read and researched, you make a lot of sense. Good thing I got some basic survival techniques and some basic knowledge about gardening, literature, food and cleaning water and a handy set of light tools. And a lot of rice  

 

Dark days are approaching indeed, every fiber in my body shouts it out.

[Lamp Of Truth]

On 12/30/2020 at 3:24 PM, Cgab1 said:

I personally know young, otherwise healthy people, with no co-morbidity (some

of whom I work with) who all contracted the symptoms, and subsequently tested positive on the test. They all said the symptoms were flu- like but a little different (loosing sense of taste, very difficult to breath). I normally don’t know this many people who get sick in such a  compressed period of time.. If it is pneumonia  or some other normal virus, causing it, not Covid, why all of these symptomatic cases all of a sudden?

 

Hi, I've had flu in the past and at least once I temporarily lost my sense of taste and that was years ago, it happens, nothing whatsoever to do with a non existent virus.

[HipO]

A Canadian scientist ( a chemist ) has scientifically determined what David Icke has been saying since April, that is that the virus does not exist and that the test is [email protected]@ite as well. Well written as well.

www.drug-dissolution-testing.com

[allymisfit]

On 12/30/2020 at 3:25 PM, Basket Case said:

 

This can and has been one of many symptoms of Flu as well. 

Doctor Vernon Coleman has explained that. 

BC 

I can agree with this BC!

This happens to me every time I have a flu. 

It makes me hate food as a result, which helps me fast....which then helps reboot my immune system :) 

[Kovidiot]

On 1/2/2021 at 3:46 AM, Malbec said:

I understand where the original poster is coming from, as I’ve probably heard of approx 10 people having “Covid”, some seriously ill and having paramedic attention and one (91yo underlying conditions) has died. So, the 91yo was obviously due to due anyway, so that’s a good example of labelling a normal death as Covid. But the spate of illnesses, is possibly psychological out of fear/ stress and anxiety? Possibly. Or, it’s normal for people to become ill when heir body is overloaded with toxins, from diet or lifestyle. But “believers” would hear those numbers and think they were all ill with Covid. 
 

however, I would suggest that the people claiming to have Covid seem to be trying to get in on the act. And then are desperate to be part of this prominent “event” (some attention seeking some through fear), so due to the massive list of symptoms people seem to almost make their symptoms fit... so any hint of any kind of illness is then exaggerated - either literally or in their mind, due to the prominence of the supposed pandemic in their mind. (Just thoughts) 

yep the nocebo effect

[Rtyu]

Please stop the lies I also know many people who know many other people. I haven't heard anyone dying from this virus. 

 

There is no evidence this virus exists as the way it is being promoted and it is a scaremongering tactics used to set the agenda 2030.

 

The same tactics used to create panic and urgency such as pandemic and global warming...etc 

 

I refuse their narratives, so I am free from their manipulation. 

[Infiniteforever]

On 12/30/2020 at 3:45 PM, Cgab1 said:

I normally know about 2 or 3 people a year who get the flu, and never someone who has died from it. In 2020, I personally know one person who has died, and know of 3 or 4 others in my extended circle who have passed. At work alone, we’ve had about 25 cases of covid ( abnormally high number, even if is just the flu) 
I’ve had the flu before, I’ve never had trouble breathing to the point where I’ve had to go to the hospital, and I’ve never noticeably lost my sense of taste or smell. I know several people who have gone to the hospital because they couldn’t breath, very unusual for the common flu, in my experience. Not trying to argue, trying to reconcile David’s assertion that there is no virus with what I see going on around me. If it is not a virus, and due to some other toxicity, how are elite protecting themselves, their children, their extended family, friends, etc?

You are rather unfortunate I think. I do believe your awareness and perceptions create this. I also believe we entering into a new dimension and people will not want to stay. 
 

for your information I knew 2 girls from school both died a year apart one was 36 and dies suddenly no health issues, the other developed an infection and passed away. This was 3-4 years ago .a couple of years previously a lady of 54 my mums colleague again healthy died after coming from holiday. Something wrong with her lungs. This was around 2015. It’s not unique. 
 

it’s people manifesting it, they panic and become scared so a bad virus or flu can knock people out not the media and government have created a perception deception so people think they have covid and thus manifest these symptoms. You got to give them 10/10 for this. 
focus your awareness on other stuff and higher your vibration. 

[younacorn]

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A VIRUS OR CONTAGIOUSNESS! YOU CAN´T DETECT  A VIRUS WITH A PCR TEST (DUH)! ANY SO-CALLED SYMPTOMS ARE ALWAYS THE MANIFESTATION OF A HEALING PROCESS ( DOESN´T MEAN IT HAS TO BE PLEASANT): YOU CAN´T SPREAD YOUR HEALING TO ME (DUH)!wissenschafftplus-the-virus-misconception-part-2.pdf  DO YOUR HOMEWORK: YOU ARE BEING OFFICIALLY SCAMMED:COVID19 – Evidence Of Global Fraud – OffGuardian (off-guardian.org)  GET ON BOARD!TIME IS RUNNING OUT