If the virus doesn’t exist...

[Cgab1]

I personally know several people who have been diagnosed with symptomatic Covid  19, along with one person who has died, my cousin, with no co-morbidity. If the virus doesn’t exist, as Icke claims, what is the cause of these deaths and illnesses? If it is in fact 5g, how are the members of the cult and other “insiders” protecting themselves from these ubiquitous electromagnetic waves? I believe much of what David says, but based on my personal experience, I’m having a hard time believing that there is no virus. This is not to say that the virus is not at least being exploited by the global elite. Any thoughts? If you suggest any type of toxicity, how are they protecting themselves and their children from the said toxicity?

[Clansman82]

The PCR test that health workers are using to diagnose people with Covid-19 is a scam. The PCR test itself was never designed to be used as a diagnostic tool. Do some research into what Kary Mullis says about the test and what he thinks of Tony Fauci, Kary invented the PCR test.

Because of this fraudulant test people who have died have been designated as Covid-19 positive, using a test that is not testing for a virus. This is why the mainstream media and government are obsessed with mass testing, they can use the positive test numbers to justify more lockdowns even though people are not ill and not dying.

This is the same test that have found poisitive cases of covid-19 in a goat, a pawpaw fruit, a kiwi fruit and a glass of cola.

The virus itself has also never been isolated in a lab, despite freedom of information requests being made to governments around the world, none of them have produced any evidence that covid-19 was ever isolated and proved to exist.

This whole mess could be finished in a matter of days if every human on earth refuses to take this test. Remember they are locking down people based on case numbers from tests, not deaths.

This is not a pandemic and it never was.

[Brad the lad]

The same way they NEVER die from Cancer, Heart disease, Auto immune disease (which is almost all of them...Parkinsons,Diabetes MS,Dementia  etc..) and just about every other condition you can think of known to man.

 

1) They have no stress which is the main reason. Every grave in the World should have here lies '...........'  who died from stress.

2) They don't use Western methods of 'medicine' for the cure or prevention because......NONE OF THEM WORK!

3) They eat the finest pure 'organic' food and herbs known to man.

4) The meat they consume has not been saturated with adrenaline due to the fear put upon the slaughtered animal before death.

5) They have the true history books and know what is really happening in the World and when? This prevents an overload of FEAR...the biggest killer known to man.

6) They have the real remedies to disease in it's most natural form.

7) They are possibly not even of the same genetics (contraversial but it's where I stand on the topic).

 

There maybe a virus but the fact is there is no evidence it exists. It has never been isolated and the test being used is a PCR test. The inventor of the test is on tape saying how unreliable it is to test disease and should NEVER be used for that purpose. For the record he is now dead and died in August 2019.

 

When you have been involved personally in the bollocks the contollers spout over the years (both medically and politically) then if they say turn left you turn right. It's not hard to clock a compulsive liar becuase everything they say is bollocks!!!

 

[Cgab1]

9 minutes ago, Clansman82 said:

The PCR test that health workers are using to diagnose people with Covid-19 is a scam. The PCR test itself was never designed to be used as a diagnostic tool. Do some research into what Kary Mullis says about the test and what he thinks of Tony Fauci, Kary invented the PCR test.

Because of this fraudulant test people who have died have been designated as Covid-19 positive, using a test that is not testing for a virus. This is why the mainstream media and government are obsessed with mass testing, they can use the positive test numbers to justify more lockdowns even though people are not ill and not dying.

This is the same test that have found poisitive cases of covid-19 in a goat, a pawpaw fruit, a kiwi fruit and a glass of cola.

The virus itself has also never been isolated in a lab, despite freedom of information requests being made to governments around the world, none of them have produced any evidence that covid-19 was ever isolated and proved to exist.

This whole mess could be finished in a matter of days if every human on earth refuses to take this test. Remember they are locking down people based on case numbers from tests, not deaths.

This is not a pandemic and it never was.

I realize this, but what is making people sick if not the virus? I know people who have had the symptoms unique to this virus (loss of sense of taste, trouble breathing, etc.) There  is no doubt in my mind that people are falling ill, with or without the PCR. I’ve seen it...

[Seeker]

1 hour ago, Cgab1 said:

I personally know several people who have been diagnosed with symptomatic Covid  19, along with one person who has died, my cousin, with no co-morbidity. If the virus doesn’t exist, as Icke claims, what is the cause of these deaths and illnesses? If it is in fact 5g, how are the members of the cult and other “insiders” protecting themselves from these ubiquitous electromagnetic waves? I believe much of what David says, but based on my personal experience, I’m having a hard time believing that there is no virus. This is not to say that the virus is not at least being exploited by the global elite. Any thoughts? If you suggest any type of toxicity, how are they protecting themselves and their children from the said toxicity?

Sorry to hear about your loss, as the person above me said. The pcr test testing positive means nothing. However, people are clearly getting ill and dying, as happens every year. Pneumonia can affect all age ranges/ health and be very serious. As we are using the pcr test then there’s is no way to know if someone has pneumonia or some other new disease as claimed. Obviously we are all here as we want to understand what’s going on, I am curious. Did the people you know get sick before or after having the test? I’ve heard stories of how some people went to hospital, caught covid and died. I find it a hard story to believe, but if the tests are doing something like Celeste Solum claimed then that could be why some healthy people are getting badly affected, along with ventilators which damage the lungs and can even kill. Of course we have geoengineering which seems to have been more relentless than ever this year, and the introduction of 5G which is damaging our bodies. From there the body has to detoxify which is what colds and flus are

[Odie Hatzcats]

9 minutes ago, Cgab1 said:

symptoms unique to this virus (loss of sense of taste, trouble breathing

 

Sorry but that actually made me laugh out loud!

 

So Trouble Breathing is now a Unique symptom of SARS-CoV-2

 

If this was written in a fictional novel, no one would buy the book because of how silly that is

[Cgab1]

9 minutes ago, Seeker said:

Sorry to hear about your loss, as the person above me said. The pcr test testing positive means nothing. However, people are clearly getting ill and dying, as happens every year. Pneumonia can affect all age ranges/ health and be very serious. As we are using the pcr test then there’s is no way to know if someone has pneumonia or some other new disease as claimed. Obviously we are all here as we want to understand what’s going on, I am curious. Did the people you know get sick before or after having the test? I’ve heard stories of how some people went to hospital, caught covid and died. I find it a hard story to believe, but if the tests are doing something like Celeste Solum claimed then that could be why some healthy people are getting badly affected, along with ventilators which damage the lungs and can even kill. Of course we have geoengineering which seems to have been more relentless than ever this year, and the introduction of 5G which is damaging our bodies. From there the body has to detoxify which is what colds and flus are

I personally know young, otherwise healthy people, with no co-morbidity (some

of whom I work with) who all contracted the symptoms, and subsequently tested positive on the test. They all said the symptoms were flu- like but a little different (loosing sense of taste, very difficult to breath). I normally don’t know this many people who get sick in such a  compressed period of time.. If it is pneumonia  or some other normal virus, causing it, not Covid, why all of these symptomatic cases all of a sudden?

[Guest Gone Fishing...]

19 minutes ago, Cgab1 said:

loss of sense of taste

 

This can and has been one of many symptoms of Flu as well. 

Doctor Vernon Coleman has explained that. 

BC 

[Cgab1]

2 minutes ago, Basket Case said:

 

This can and has been one of many symptoms of Flu as well. 

Doctor Vernon Coleman has explained that. 

BC 

I normally know about 2 or 3 people a year who get the flu, and never someone who has died from it. In 2020, I personally know one person who has died, and know of 3 or 4 others in my extended circle who have passed. At work alone, we’ve had about 25 cases of covid ( abnormally high number, even if is just the flu) 
I’ve had the flu before, I’ve never had trouble breathing to the point where I’ve had to go to the hospital, and I’ve never noticeably lost my sense of taste or smell. I know several people who have gone to the hospital because they couldn’t breath, very unusual for the common flu, in my experience. Not trying to argue, trying to reconcile David’s assertion that there is no virus with what I see going on around me. If it is not a virus, and due to some other toxicity, how are elite protecting themselves, their children, their extended family, friends, etc?

[Guest Gone Fishing...]

4 minutes ago, Cgab1 said:

I personally know one person who has died

 

I'm sorry to hear this. 

You said they had asthma and were nearly 60? 

Flu and / or this virus is not good for people of that age with asthma. 

Also, many doctors have said induced comas and ventilators is not the best treatment. 

 

7 minutes ago, Cgab1 said:

and know of 3 or 4 others in my extended circle who have passed

 

You are the only person I have heard experience this. 

I know many people who know many people etc... I have not heard of anyone dying of this virus. 

 

9 minutes ago, Cgab1 said:

At work alone, we’ve had about 25 cases of covid

 

Is this positive tests - actual sickness - or people 'pulling a sicky' off work ? 

 

11 minutes ago, Cgab1 said:

trying to reconcile David’s assertion that there is no virus

 

I believe he means that there is no -

'new deadly virus' as can be seen from proper government figures. (Excess deaths etc..) 

 

I believe it's the normal yearly Flu. Or at the very worst, this year's varient which "might be" a little more infectious and / or a little stronger. 

 

BTW - do you realise that the PCR is being miss used and is giving ridiculously high false results for the claimed contagious live virus it claims to detect? 

 

BC 

[Cgab1]

21 minutes ago, Basket Case said:

 

Is this positive tests - actual sickness - or people 'pulling a sicky' off work ?   
-Symptoms then positive tests, then quarantined at home for two weeks 

 

 

I believe he means that there is no -

'new deadly virus' as can be seen from proper government figures. (Excess deaths etc..)  
 

- I will agree with this.

 

 

 

"Symptoms then positive tests, then quarantined at home for two weeks" 

 

"- I will agree with this." 

Edited December 30, 2020 by Basket Case
Extracted response from inside the quote

[Guest Gone Fishing...]

6 minutes ago, Cgab1 said:

 

"Symptoms then positive tests, then quarantined at home for two weeks" 

 

"- I will agree with this." 

No biggie, but you need more practice with the forum reply / quote function. 

I've extracted your response into a part of your reply that is 'yours' :0)

 

If your work colleagues had a virus, either the Flu or the claimed new deadly virus then the tests would have been valid as there would have been active and possibly contagious genetic materials for the test to find. 

 

So I don't find anything unusual about this. 

 

[Guest Gone Fishing...]

1 hour ago, Cgab1 said:

virus,

 

Are you familiar with Dr Mike Yeadon? 

A highly qualified professional who recognises that we had 'a virus' come through the UK earlier this year. 

He claims "its over - finished" 

He completely disagrees with SAGE. 

He doesn't trust the PCR. 

He does not trust the figures. 

He does not trust the new vaccine, though in his own words "isn't an anti-vaxxer". 

 

 

[Cgab1]

3 minutes ago, Basket Case said:

No biggie, but you need more practice with the forum reply / quote function. 

I've extracted your response into a part of your reply that is 'yours' :0)

 

If your work colleagues had a virus, either the Flu or the claimed new deadly virus then the tests would have been valid as there would have been active and possibly contagious genetic materials for the test to find. 

 

So I don't find anything unusual about this. 

 

I agree that that the PCR is absolute nonsense, but I also acknowledge thar

there are an unusually large number of people getting hospitalized due to symptoms from “something”, in my experience.

[Odie Hatzcats]

1 hour ago, Cgab1 said:

I normally know about 2 or 3 people a year who get the flu, and never someone who has died from it.

 

Flu kills some where around 25000 each year in the UK alone (some years vastly more 50000+) but those who could have been classed as dying from flu each year is well over 100000, again in the UK alone.

But now even if you die from gunshot wounds you can be classed and counted as a covid death ffs!

Shark eats man who then is classed as dying from covid.

^^^^ should be a joke but it is not. this is the bullshit being reported as fact.

 

1 hour ago, Cgab1 said:

At work alone, we’ve had about 25 cases of covid

 

Your work has had 25 bullshit results from a 'test' which is NOT a test. Please atleast research it yourself. Even the inventor of it stated that it cannot be used as a test!

 

1 hour ago, Cgab1 said:

abnormally high number, even if is just the flu

 

No it is not a high number. Everyone now considers even a slight cough as sodding covid.

 

1 hour ago, Cgab1 said:

I know several people who have gone to the hospital because they couldn’t breath

 

I and EVERYONE I know and ALL those known by them, know of NO ONE. But then they are not trying to promote something which is the flu as a pandemic.

Although the 'flu' doesn't' exist anymore! Have you no problem with that one?

 

1 hour ago, Cgab1 said:

how are elite protecting themselves, their children, their extended family, friends, etc?

 

Protecting from what? The flu?

The parasites will NOT be getting any vaccine for a start and that gives them an advantage. It means that the immune system can function!

 

Oh dear.

 

Edited December 30, 2020 by Odie Hatzcats

[Guest Gone Fishing...]

2 minutes ago, Cgab1 said:

there are an unusually large number of people getting hospitalized due to symptoms from “something”, in my experience

 

As I said before, you're the very first person (all year) I've heard say this. 

 

The Government and Media have been saying this on a never ending repeat cycle all year but the figures don't back this up. 

BC 

[Cgab1]

3 minutes ago, Basket Case said:

 

Are you familiar with Dr Mike Yeadon? 

A highly qualified professional who recognises that we had 'a virus' come through the UK earlier this year. 

He claims "its over - finished" 

He completely disagrees with SAGE. 

He doesn't trust the PCR. 

He does not trust the figures. 

He does not trust the new vaccine, though in his own words "isn't an anti-vaxxer". 

 

 

Nor do I trust the vaccine. I think there is a non-lethal virus that is being exploited to further an agenda, but I wouldn’t go so far to say that there is no virus..

[Guest Gone Fishing...]

10 minutes ago, Cgab1 said:

to further an agenda

 

The agenda being the Global - Great Reset as promoted and planned by the World Economic Forum. 

 

[Cgab1]

7 minutes ago, Basket Case said:

 

As I said before, you're the very first person (all year) I've heard say this. 

 

The Government and Media have been saying this on a never ending repeat cycle all year but the figures don't back this up. 

BC 

I can only report what I’ve seen going on around me. I know that it is hard to verify my observations, but that’s why I’m asking questions. I’m certainly not here to win a debate, but when you tell someone who has had the “symptoms” of “whatever” that Covid doesn’t exist, if looks could kill...

[screamingeagle]

4 minutes ago, Cgab1 said:

” that Covid doesn’t exist, if looks could kill...

i asked my friend

"tell me if you didn't have a TV,would you be aware of plandemic"

 

got the same looks......

[Guest Gone Fishing...]

1 minute ago, Cgab1 said:

but when you tell someone who has had the “symptoms” of “whatever” that Covid doesn’t exist, if looks could kill...

 

Yep I get that.. 

I've had friends who've had Flu this year. 

 

One friend in particular had it - (54yo) big healthy active sporty bloke - stuck him in bed for 3 days. Sweats / headache / aches and pains / no energy / nausea etc... He said it wasn't much fun at all. His wife got it as did their 2 kids (12 + 16) they were each stuck in bed for a few days. Not all at the same time but over about 10 days. 

They didn't bother with getting 'tested'... they just got on with it. 

They're fine. 

Just like any and every other previous years. 

BC 

[Beaujangles]

2 hours ago, Cgab1 said:

I realize this, but what is making people sick if not the virus? I know people who have had the symptoms unique to this virus (loss of sense of taste, trouble breathing, etc.) There  is no doubt in my mind that people are falling ill, with or without the PCR. I’ve seen it...

 

 

I think you are overlooking the obvious. I believe the people you know were sick, but having worked on a heart and lung ward in the past I can say that respiratory illnesses are not uncommon. For example, if someone gets unwell with a cold, flu, bronchitis etc ( common ailments) this can develop into terrible symptoms and even death. I will give a couple of examples close to myself including myself.

 

 In 2001 I had a root canal done, I became very ill. I developed an infection from the procedure which went to my lungs. Lost sense of taste and smell. Doctor said it was bronchitis with infection. I could not breathe, I thought I was dying. I was bedridden from this. I was also allergic (as it turned out) from the antibiotics I was given. This made it even worse, the room was spinning and I was in a bad way. It took over a month for me to recover. It wasn't the dreaded 'covid' it was from an infection delivered via a root canal. Infections can enter in other ways too, like person to person, putting hands to mouth that are contaminated - thus leading to what I experienced in 2001. So any of these scenarios could be your acquaintances. Add to this that many people in 2020 are not seeking help from doctors because they are afraid they will be tested or diagnosed with 'covid' - this then gives an even stronger likelihood of what happened to me happening.

 

In 2017, my cousin had a cold. She called it the sniffles. I was in UK at the time, so had chance to see her a few times and on March 4th we both sat side by side at the dinner table and she was happy and apart from her 'sniffles' she seemed healthy...although she said she would find it hard to breathe if she lay down. Now anyone who has a cold knows that if your nose is plugged you do have a problem breathing when lying down - so this didn't seem out of the ordinary. I came back to Canada the next day (5th) and on the 6th my cousin was on her way to the doctors as she wanted to get checked for infection. She collapsed at her front door. Her husband called an ambulance and she was taken to hospital. By the evening of March 7th she was placed in an induced coma. Her breathing had deteriorated ( no previous problems other than sniffles or so she had thought). She was incredibly fatigued, no appetite and no sense of taste or smell. The doctors said she had a chest infection that had gotten out of control...but she was unaware of the severity. Whilst in a coma - she started to turn black...she had Sepsis from the infection. Antibiotics did not work...she died on March 16th. So from happily eating dinner on march 4th she was dead 12 days later. This was not 'covid' as three years prior, it was a natural progression of an infection that began as a cold.

 

2009 - My neighbour (at that time) had what she thought was the flu. All the flu symptoms you can imagine. It went on for over a week. Then one evening she came to my house and said that she felt really unwell..and could I take her to the hospital. We went to Emergency and signed in. She was placed in a bed and given all the usual tests. She had this weird cough and a pain in her shoulder. Believe it or not the doctor said it could be a 'rotator cuff injury' - because I had been a nurse for several years I thought the doctor had lost the plot. I said 'what does the x-ray suggest?'    They said it was fine. Gave her some oxygen and sent her home...but she was still not right. She was very agitated in the night and at 9 am the next morning a phone call comes in from the hospital. That same doctor said they needed to send antibiotics to a local pharmacy for her to take. She had pneumonia...the radiologist had checked the x-ray in the morning and detected it. She took those antibiotics and needed another batch afterward. Her breathing was bad for weeks...eventually she got better. ( Not covid obviously as 2009)

 

My friend in 2018 developed a dry hacking cough, felt very ill,  that went on for weeks... again this case she lost sense of taste and smell. Breathing was terrible... it took weeks to recover. Even since she is prone to this cough if she gets a cold...her sense of taste and smell has never returned. 

 

The reason for posting these cases is to show that before covid these things happened..to many many people. people get sick, they either recover or they don't. 

 

I can give many other scenarios from my time working in a hospital years ago... this current 'covid' situation is pathetic in my opinion... A 99.7% recovery rate is better than most recovery rates....and thats if you even believe it exists.

 

[Moonlight]

3 hours ago, Brad the lad said:

The same way they NEVER die from Cancer, Heart disease, Auto immune disease (which is almost all of them...Parkinsons,Diabetes MS,Dementia  etc..) and just about every other condition you can think of known to man.

 

1) They have no stress which is the main reason. Every grave in the World should have here lies '...........'  who died from stress.

2) They don't use Western methods of 'medicine' for the cure or prevention because......NONE OF THEM WORK!

3) They eat the finest pure 'organic' food and herbs known to man.

4) The meat they consume has not been saturated with adrenaline due to the fear put upon the slaughtered animal before death.

5) They have the true history books and know what is really happening in the World and when? This prevents an overload of FEAR...the biggest killer known to man.

6) They have the real remedies to disease in it's most natural form.

7) They are possibly not even of the same genetics (contraversial but it's where I stand on the topic).

 

There maybe a virus but the fact is there is no evidence it exists. It has never been isolated and the test being used is a PCR test. The inventor of the test is on tape saying how unreliable it is to test disease and should NEVER be used for that purpose. For the record he is now dead and died in August 2019.

 

When you have been involved personally in the bollocks the contollers spout over the years (both medically and politically) then if they say turn left you turn right. It's not hard to clock a compulsive liar becuase everything they say is bollocks!!!

 

 

This is  a good post – beside of that Dementia is an Auto immune disease -  which I dont think it is

The Elites do infact not eat the same food as we do .... or drink the same water
their food is grown in a toxic free environment - they dont take things like vaccines and are not exposed to radiation as much as we are etc.....
they generally have also longer life span – therefore we get the impression that people ike Kissinger, The Queen and some Rothschilds never die.

This is because they belong to the Master Race and maye of them are blue blooded - while we belong to the Slave Race

[Beaujangles]

There are many types of dementia... and many causes.  

 

@Moonlight Do you have any links to what you say re: Elites and food, vaccines, water, radiation etc?

 

Many 'regular' people live to ripe old ages. We have longevity in my family. My aunt lived to 100 and my father is 90. My aunt drank water daily from the tap and always had a jam jar full of water by her side. She also had a huge growth under her arm which she refused to have removed - it died along with her. My father has never been a fussy eater, he eats whatever he likes. He used to smoke and still eats sweet/candies ( he used to own a sweet shop lol)   He doesn't drink but consumes a huge amount of tea ( made with tap water).

In the last few years he has received the flu shot. He  tells me he will get the 'covid' jab...reason being he says it will put an end to lockdowns. So I guess this fake virus has a means to an end... and its working for the most part :-(

[Moonlight]

54 minutes ago, Beaujangles said:

There are many types of dementia... and many causes.  

 

@Moonlight Do you have any links to what you say re: Elites and food, vaccines, water, radiation etc?

 

Many 'regular' people live to ripe old ages. We have longevity in my family. My aunt lived to 100 and my father is 90. My aunt drank water daily from the tap and always had a jam jar full of water by her side. She also had a huge growth under her arm which she refused to have removed - it died along with her. My father has never been a fussy eater, he eats whatever he likes. He used to smoke and still eats sweet/candies ( he used to own a sweet shop lol)   He doesn't drink but consumes a huge amount of tea ( made with tap water).

In the last few years he has received the flu shot. He  tells me he will get the 'covid' jab...reason being he says it will put an end to lockdowns. So I guess this fake virus has a means to an end... and its working for the most part :-(

 

yes of of course it is possible to live that long...but its not usual...in some parts of the earth people become 100 or more so in Limone on Lake Garda because of this delicious Olive Oil they have there
 

I have it from the book "the Gods of Eden".....Zecharia Sitchin wrote also about the Annunaki gods

 

 

 

Edited December 30, 2020 by Moonlight