peter Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 51 minutes ago, mike hunt said: Seeking equilibrium. If an object is denser than the medium it is in, it falls. Everything seeks equilibrium, which is the ground. So a helium balloon in a vacuum would fall. But in air, would rise. A rock sitting on the sand at the beach is obviously denser than the sand ( except pumice), why doesn't it sink into the sand whilst seeking equilibrium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, mike hunt said: According to latest science - Gravity is not a force. I remind you again what I said earlier: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, mike hunt said: According to latest science - Gravity is not a force. Ref scientific papers please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike hunt Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 1 minute ago, peter said: A rock sitting on the sand at the beach is obviously denser than the sand ( except pumice), why doesn't it sink into the sand whilst seeking equilibrium It does sink into the sand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike hunt Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 Just now, peter said: Ref scientific papers please general relativity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 1 minute ago, mike hunt said: It does sink into the sand? you don't go to the beach much do you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike hunt Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 1 minute ago, peter said: you don't go to the beach much do you No sand at Brighton beach! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregory-peccary Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 On 2/7/2021 at 7:47 PM, mike hunt said: No sand at Brighton beach! :-) Other beaches are available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor What Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 On 2/7/2021 at 6:55 PM, mike hunt said: Because everything comes from a ground. Like an apple tree. When the apple gets heavy enough it falls to the ground - where it came from. So a helium balloon has density. A vacuum is the absence of matter, (Though not 100%). So you have a helium balloon whose density is greater than the medium it is in. In this case a vacuum. So it falls to the ground. Hence it is the law of relative density disequilibrium. Are you a denier of gravity? Explain please why all things fall in down direction. Explain too what you mean with your word 'heavy'. Helium balloon explodes in vacuum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike hunt Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 32 minutes ago, Doctor What said: Are you a denier of gravity? Explain please why all things fall in down direction. Explain too what you mean with your word 'heavy'. Helium balloon explodes in vacuum. Helium balloons fall before they explode in a vacuum. Are you good at being wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 14 minutes ago, mike hunt said: Helium balloons fall before they explode in a vacuum. Are you good at being wrong? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tests_of_general_relativity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 36 minutes ago, mike hunt said: Are you good at being wrong? MOD NOTE: You need to read through the thread that Grumpy Owl gave you. You are about to go around and around in exactly the same way as members in that thread. That you don't understand how gravity affects the very things that you are trying to use to show there is no gravity is either very poor research and basic understanding or you're on a wind up.. Again - read the thread and desist. It's all been done before. And it stops here. This is a FACTS ABOUT SPACE THREAD. BC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Doctor What said: Are you a denier of gravity? The member has been presented with the (locked) thread to read through. We are not going through this again. Please resist the temptation to respond. Thanks BC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 (edited) On 2/8/2021 at 4:36 AM, mike hunt said: Yes because I am more dense than air. Will I or won't I, oh the temptation Edited February 9, 2021 by peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 On 12/29/2020 at 3:28 PM, oz93666 said: What is in the military domain is different and not publicized...Back before 2000 , according to Alex Jones and his insiders they had satellites that could read the print in the book you were reading while sitting in a deck chair in your garden ... This is not difficult science just fine craftsmanship in grinding mirrors and lenses .... Hubble facing back to Earth Nowhere to hide: the danger of satellite spies https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn26348-nowhere-to-hide-the-danger-of-satellite-spies/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, Basket Case said: The member has been presented with the (locked) thread to read through. We are not going through this again. Please resist the temptation to respond. Thanks BC Just to play devil's advocate, technically gravity research is a part of Space Science [ Branches of Space sciences: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outline_of_space_science#Branches_of_Space_sciences ]. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor What Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 (edited) 22 hours ago, mike hunt said: Helium balloons fall before they explode in a vacuum. Did you notice he used water in balloon to reinforce, this also limits ability to rise very high. 22 hours ago, mike hunt said: Are you good at being wrong? It does not frighten me. You are bflat. Balloon must have very strong, but also light material to stop this popping. How High Can Weather Balloons Go? - StratoStar Edit: I see once more that you fail in response to the rest of my post. Edited February 10, 2021 by Doctor What Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor What Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 21 hours ago, Basket Case said: The member has been presented with the (locked) thread to read through. We are not going through this again. Please resist the temptation to respond. Thanks BC I have responded only to direct claim on space subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 On 2/7/2021 at 7:08 PM, Basket Case said: The FORCE that causes things to go towards the floor - this FORCE - we call GRAVITY. GRAVITY is why denser things in a container of various fluids go to their different places. No gravity - no movement. Denser air underneath a helium balloon pushes the balloon up. It's GRAVITY that pulls the denser air down underneath the balloon which then pushes it up. No GRAVITY - no air pulled down which then pushes the balloon up. GRAVITY. GRAVITY exists and is demonstrable. I don't know .... lol SECRET OF GRAVITY & COUNTERSPACE Gravity cannot exist according to Platonic logic & Field mechanics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 4 hours ago, ink said: I don't know .... lol l tried both. l need it translated into plain English.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shabbirss Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 (edited) Edited February 11, 2021 by shabbirss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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