peter Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 When people talk about space the majority naturally think of the final frontier variety, but in actual fact space pervades everything from the infinitely large to the infinitely small and it is not empty it is full ,full of energy and information ,infinitely so, and it is where all our physical reality emerges from. For those that are interested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnarchicBreeze Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 (edited) What space does space exist within? And what space does the space that space exists within exist within? Only real answer is that space doesn't actually exist or rather, space only exists when there is something to exist within it. If there's nothing to exist in it then space doesn't actually exist; it is non-existance and can be therefore be infinitely non-existent... Factor in matter travelling at almost the speed of light and time, the direction of time, apparent gravity and our relative appreciation of existence starts to make sense Edited February 1, 2021 by AnarchicBreeze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 I don't know if you were trying to be funny or clever, but you didn't think about what you wrote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike hunt Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 Space is FAKE. You cannot have gas pressure without a container. Our atmosphere would be sucked out into the so-called vacuum of space! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 6 hours ago, mike hunt said: Space is FAKE. You cannot have gas pressure without a container. Our atmosphere would be sucked out into the so-called vacuum of space! Could you please explain why Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike hunt Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 3 hours ago, peter said: Could you please explain why Gas fills the container it is in. If our atmosphere was not contained it would be sucked into the so called vacuum of space. Think of a tire. If it didnt have walls, the gas inside would escape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 unfortunately vacuums don't suck, unlike that explanation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike hunt Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 7 hours ago, peter said: unfortunately vacuums don't suck, unlike that explanation But gas fills the container! No container - no gas pressure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 (edited) Try thinking about about pressure differential coupled with gravity , that question has been answered at least half a dozen times , have a look in the flat earth thread Edited February 6, 2021 by peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike hunt Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 On 2/6/2021 at 10:58 AM, peter said: Try thinking about about pressure differential coupled with gravity , that question has been answered at least half a dozen times , have a look in the flat earth thread Gravity is a theory that has never been proven. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 1 hour ago, mike hunt said: Gravity is a theory that has never been proven. What do you think Gravity is ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 1 hour ago, mike hunt said: Gravity is a theory that has never been proven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 1 hour ago, mike hunt said: Gravity is a theory that has never been proven. I recommend you review the following thread, then if you wish to discuss this topic further, please start a new topic: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 1 hour ago, mike hunt said: Gravity is a theory that has never been proven. 10 minutes ago, DarianF said: Video please Mike.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike hunt Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 41 minutes ago, Basket Case said: Video please Mike.. You trust Richard Dawkins? Relative density explains the world around us. Or more accurately relative density disequilibrium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, mike hunt said: You trust Richard Dawkins? Relative density explains the world around us. Or more accurately relative density disequilibrium. So it's relative density that would splat you on the floor if you jumped out of a building ? As Grumpy Owl said - go check out and read that thread. It's been done to death and is REALLY boring now.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike hunt Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Basket Case said: So it's relative density that would splat you on the floor if you jumped out of a building ? As Grumpy Owl said - go check out and read that thread. It's been done to death and is REALLY boring now.. Yes because I am more dense than air. Will go off and browse through that thread. Lots of great guys on you tube pushing this, Shout out to the FED team! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 Just now, mike hunt said: Yes because I am more dense than air. Will go off and browse through that thread. Lots of great guys on you tube pushing this, Shout out to the FED team! Have fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, mike hunt said: Yes because I am more dense than air. I will do this only once.. What causes heavier and denser things to go DOWN and lighter less dens things to go UP...? Please don't deflect into what's really up / down... Down towards the ground + up into the air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike hunt Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 Just now, Basket Case said: I will do this only once.. What causes heavier and denser things to go DOWN and lighter less dens things to go UP...? Please don't deflect into what's really up / down... Down towards the ground + up into the air. Seeking equilibrium. If an object is denser than the medium it is in, it falls. Everything seeks equilibrium, which is the ground. So a helium balloon in a vacuum would fall. But in air, would rise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, mike hunt said: Seeking equilibrium. If an object is denser than the medium it is in, it falls. Everything seeks equilibrium, which is the ground. So a helium balloon in a vacuum would fall. But in air, would rise. Why is the floor the equilibrium ? Why would a helium balloon go down in a vacuum ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike hunt Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Basket Case said: Why is the floor the equilibrium ? Why would a helium balloon go down in a vacuum ? Because everything comes from a ground. Like an apple tree. When the apple gets heavy enough it falls to the ground - where it came from. So a helium balloon has density. A vacuum is the absence of matter, (Though not 100%). So you have a helium balloon whose density is greater than the medium it is in. In this case a vacuum. So it falls to the ground. Hence it is the law of relative density disequilibrium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, mike hunt said: Because everything comes from a ground. Like an apple tree. When the apple gets heavy enough it falls to the ground - where it came from. So a helium balloon has density. A vacuum is the absence of matter, (Though not 100%). So you have a helium balloon whose density is greater than the medium it is in. In this case a vacuum. So it falls to the ground. Hence it is the law of relative density disequilibrium. The FORCE that causes things to go towards the floor - this FORCE - we call GRAVITY. GRAVITY is why denser things in a container of various fluids go to their different places. No gravity - no movement. Denser air underneath a helium balloon pushes the balloon up. It's GRAVITY that pulls the denser air down underneath the balloon which then pushes it up. No GRAVITY - no air pulled down which then pushes the balloon up. GRAVITY. GRAVITY exists and is demonstrable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Basket Case said: The FORCE that causes things to go towards the floor - this FORCE - we call GRAVITY. GRAVITY is why denser things in a container of various fluids go to their different places. No gravity - no movement. Denser air underneath a helium balloon pushes the balloon up. It's GRAVITY that pulls the denser air down underneath the balloon which then pushes it up. No GRAVITY - no air pulled down which then pushes the balloon up. GRAVITY. GRAVITY exists and is demonstrable. Here we go again Mr Case Reincarnation obviously exists Edited February 7, 2021 by peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike hunt Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 27 minutes ago, Basket Case said: The FORCE that causes things to go towards the floor - this FORCE - we call GRAVITY. GRAVITY is why denser things in a container of various fluids go to their different places. No gravity - no movement. Denser air underneath a helium balloon pushes the balloon up. It's GRAVITY that pulls the denser air down underneath the balloon which then pushes it up. No GRAVITY - no air pulled down which then pushes the balloon up. GRAVITY. GRAVITY exists and is demonstrable. According to latest science - Gravity is not a force. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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