EnigmaticWorld Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 I get what Horus is saying. Most people that complain about the woke crowd totally ignore the tribal element. It's also why many fall for the Kremlin's deception, because they see Russia as anti-LGBT, but our problems don't just come from the LGBT crowd. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numnuts Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 On 1/22/2023 at 11:58 AM, EnigmaticWorld said: At least we're not speaking Germ... Kind of reminds me of the ending of 'Quadrophenia' (1979). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 minute ago, numnuts said: Kind of reminds me of the ending of 'Quadrophenia' (1979). That takes me back. My older brother used to be obsessed with that movie. In a choice of mods and rockers, I'm not sure who I would identify with these days. I'm starting to think the only winning move in life is to refuse to play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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alexa Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 I can't believe the Pope just said something right for once, I bet he gets a lorra stick for this Pope Francis says people who criminalise homosexual acts are 'wrong', after pontiff came under fire for saying homosexuality is 'not a crime, but a sin' The letter comes after the Pope said earlier this week that homosexuality is 'not a crime' but that 'it's a sin' . It was written to clarify his comments in the interview with the Associated Press. DM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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alexa Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 This is getting worse...... Church in row over plan to show Pride flag on altar over claims it politicises place of worship and will lead to 'moral anarchy' A historic church's controversial plan to display a gay Pride flag on its altar is to be ruled on in a landmark legal case after protesters complained it was 'politicising' 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadil Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 hours ago, alexa said: This is getting worse...... Church in row over plan to show Pride flag on altar over claims it politicises place of worship and will lead to 'moral anarchy' A historic church's controversial plan to display a gay Pride flag on its altar is to be ruled on in a landmark legal case after protesters complained it was 'politicising' I spoke with my wife about the LGBTQ+_XYZABC issue with religion a few days ago. When you consider in the USA how many bizarre churches etc that they have. How they twist the bible to suit them, would it not be more logical to just make their own LGBTQ church. Now we both know the bible would not accept it but it would be the logical thing to do. Trying to change the church to allow things against the scripture is like saying you can you pushbikes in football imo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Certified Green of Heart Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Re: Sam Smith! I know there's one song of his that's been doing the rounds lately, and that sounds to me something like Gaga and The Illuminati wouldn't mind being paired with... I am commenting on just audio, let alone the video, which I probably would care for even less. Not all Sam Smith songs are bad by the sounds going back in time a bit, but of the one soundtrack I am thinking of more recent, it's like a hyper-ballad soaked in fish oil drenched & stagnated in raw olives. In other words the sound alone enough to turn your stomach. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 They're trying to imply that people are just bigots that are only moaning because it's homosexual. It's a lie though. Some of us are just as concerned with heterosexual smut being pushed to children. I know I am. On 12/17/2022 at 2:26 PM, EnigmaticWorld said: You know things are bad when primary school girls are singing Wet Ass Pussy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 5 hours ago, Bombadil said: I spoke with my wife about the LGBTQ+_XYZABC issue with religion a few days ago. When you consider in the USA how many bizarre churches etc that they have. How they twist the bible to suit them, would it not be more logical to just make their own LGBTQ church. Now we both know the bible would not accept it but it would be the logical thing to do. Trying to change the church to allow things against the scripture is like saying you can you pushbikes in football imo What's the point of them having their own church, It wouldn't matter as it's still against God's creation & it is still an abomination unto God. They can twist the bible all they like as there is no way of getting away from God's word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 minute ago, alexa said: What's the point of them having their own church, It wouldn't matter as it's still against God's creation & it is still an abomination unto God. They can twist the bible all they like as there is no way of getting away from God's word. We wouldn't have to worry so much about our own churches so much though. That being said, I think we're more or less at the "come out of her, my people" stage. I'm struggling to find a decent traditionalist church that isn't pushing some woke postmodernist agenda anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said: I think we're more or less at the "come out of her, my people" stage. I'm struggling to find a decent traditionalist church that isn't pushing some woke postmodernist agenda anyway. And me, I haven't been to church since this covid nonsence as most of the congregation had taken the jab, I reckon your right we are at that stage to get out of her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 5 minutes ago, alexa said: And me, I haven't been to church since this covid nonsence as most of the congregation had taken the jab, I reckon your right we are at that stage to get out of her. Out reactions, but same here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemuri Kyoshiro Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 3 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said: We wouldn't have to worry so much about our own churches so much though. That being said, I think we're more or less at the "come out of her, my people" stage. I'm struggling to find a decent traditionalist church that isn't pushing some woke postmodernist agenda anyway. Good luck. Most of the mainstream churches are drifting inexorably back to Rome anyway. Sola Scriptura, the watchword of the Reformers, has been consigned to history, more or less, and universalism is the new faith which, of course, incorporates woke and it's adjunct deviant organizations. The Anglican Church has been on the back foot for a long time. The BCP is no longer used, and the KJV is an historical curiosity for most vicars. The poison goes back to the influence of Westcott and Hort and that malignant little shit Tischendorf. Any bible published after 1900 is based on a lie; a total fabrication designed to deny the deity of Christ. Evil men doing evil things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 8 minutes ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said: Good luck. Most of the mainstream churches are drifting inexorably back to Rome anyway. Sola Scriptura, the watchword of the Reformers, has been consigned to history, more or less, and universalism is the new faith which, of course, incorporates woke and it's adjunct deviant organizations. The Anglican Church has been on the back foot for a long time. The BCP is no longer used, and the KJV is an historical curiosity for most vicars. The poison goes back to the influence of Westcott and Hort and that malignant little shit Tischendorf. Any bible published after 1900 is based on a lie; a total fabrication designed to deny the deity of Christ. Evil men doing evil things. I do wonder if Rome's days are numbered because of how much the elites hate the West, but I hear you. They're pushing the whole Russia third Rome thing again so it seems like Rome will still be a factor regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemuri Kyoshiro Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 3 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said: I do wonder if Rome's days are numbered because of how much the elites hate the West, but I hear you. They're pushing the whole Russia third Rome thing again so it seems like Rome will still be a factor regardless. I don't think so. Rome will always be a factor until the events prophesied in Revelation occur. Besides, I'm not sure the elites consider Rome as part of the west. All world leaders and their corporate masters have, at one time or another, paid homage to the Pope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said: I don't think so. Rome will always be a factor until the events prophesied in Revelation occur. I agree, but I don't think we're far away from certain events. Francis is openly honouring Talmudic commandments, and also bowing to KGB nutters. Quote Francis bows to KGB Russian metropolitan On October 6, 2021, in an audience to Russian metropolitan Ilarion Alfeev, representing the Patriarch of Moscow, Pope Bergoglio bowed and kissed his icon, above. The Schismatic website Orthodox Christian Laity made this comment on the present day hierarchs of the Russian Schismatic Church: The Soviet Union slaughtered tens of thousands of priests in the 1930s, but the Communists later took what survived of the church and brought it under the sway of Russia’s secret police, the KGB, with clerics conscripted to spy on congregants and émigrés. The nexus between Russia’s intelligence and religious establishments survived the 1991 fall of the Soviet Union and the KGB’s reorganization into the FSB, according to Moscow-based political analyst Dmitry Oreshkin. “Our church leaders are connected to the FSB and their epaulettes stick out from under their habits,” Oreshkin said. “They provide Vladimir Putin’s policy with an ideological foundation.” We see, therefore, that Francis did not lose the opportunity to humiliate himself before a Schismatic, who doubles his error by being an agent of Communism. https://traditioninaction.org/RevolutionPhotos/A956-Sch.htm Edited January 30 by EnigmaticWorld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemuri Kyoshiro Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said: I agree, but I don't think we're far away from certain events. Francis is openly honouring Talmudic commandments, and also bowing to KGB nutters. No here's something. Does Rome see the Orthodox church as one of its lost children or as something else? We know that Rome never changes and has always viewed the Protestant church as a lost child and Rome as the mother of all churches but not, I think, as the mother or the Orthodox church. Seems to me that Bergoglio - or whoever succeeds him - is positioning Rome as the leader of the new world religion. Most now cede to his authority on spiritual matters including the Methodists, Lutherans, and our own befuddled Anglicans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 4 minutes ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said: No here's something. Does Rome see the Orthodox church as one of its lost children or as something else? We know that Rome never changes and has always viewed the Protestant church as a lost child and Rome as the mother of all churches but not, I think, as the mother or the Orthodox church. Seems to me that Bergoglio - or whoever succeeds him - is positioning Rome as the leader of the new world religion. Most now cede to his authority on spiritual matters including the Methodists, Lutherans, and our own befuddled Anglicans. 15 minutes ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said: All world leaders and their corporate masters have, at one time or another, paid homage to the Pope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Is it really Rome pulling the strings if he is covering the cross and bowing to these people? Seems dodgy to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campion Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 (edited) 10 hours ago, Bombadil said: I spoke with my wife about the LGBTQ+_XYZABC issue with religion a few days ago. When you consider in the USA how many bizarre churches etc that they have. How they twist the bible to suit them, would it not be more logical to just make their own LGBTQ church. Well, there are LGBT churches such as the Metropolitan Community Church, and various liberal denominations (eg Quakers, Unitarians, Liberal Judaism), but to my knowledge they're all quite small. It's curious really that the most liberal churches haven't thrived in an increasingly liberal society. I suppose they don't want to have separate enclaves for the different types of people but to take over the whole society. Edited January 30 by Campion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 What Does “Woke” Mean?… Here’s The REAL Definition The Left Doesn’t Want You To See All the dictionaries define the term as meaning “socially aware of injustice.” Yeah, yeah. That’s like defining Communism as “wanting to help people.” So I started down the rabbit hole road, and here are the general precepts. Woke is: An ideology—meaning a secular religion. It’s revealed Truth; opponents are sinners, questioning is heresy, and unbelievers must be converted or destroyed. It’s collectivist. Collective thinking rejects human individualism, herding people into broad classes based on defined characteristics–like race, sex, and religion. In classic Marxism, those groups are defined by economic status. Woke defines them by race and sorts them out by ‘privilege.’ The color of your skin does indeed define your character—forever. A wealthy black college professor outranks a poor white son of a coal miner. Collective thinking denies humans basic dignity and treats them as mere numbers. Key: it also assigns collective guilt. Another current name for collectivists is “Progressive.” Woke is authoritarian. Collectivism is tyrannous. With no individual rights to base human dignity and freedoms on, people are simply ants to be directed by any would-be Leader. Also, Marxist: Woke defines the world as nothing more than an arena of power. All are at war with all for dominance. The defined dominant class is at war with everybody else. Every institution, norm, faith, history, and tradition—every human endeavor—is a deliberate instrument of oppression by the dominant class. Woke defines the dominant class as “white supremacy.” Everyone else is a victim. Everything existing is fair game to be destroyed. Woke is totalitarian. There are no innocents; there are no neutrals; nothing is non-political; everything is either an instrument of oppression or an instrument of struggle. For the defined victim class, all are permitted. For the oppressor class, any attack is fair game. Within this religion—ideology, there is the doctrine of “intersectionality.” This means there are other classes of victims that have hitched a ride along with race. Not all these hitchhikers are equal. Humans are sorted out into sub-collectives by their degree of arbitrarily defined “privilege.” The white female feminist outranks a white straight male but ranks below a black female. The male who publicly identifies as a woman is now “Trans” and now outranks the hetero-feminist and the lesbian. Competition within these victim groups is intense. One class whose status is inviolate is African American. Attempts by others to identify as “Black” and the very idea of “Trans-Race” are laughed out of the room. The true motivation of this religion is power, not an idealistic desire to improve the world. Like the Maoist Red Guards that upended China, the woke believers use their religion to empower themselves by pulling down anyone and anything that catches their attention. Students destroy their teachers; players destroy their coaches; colleges pull down statues of their founders. Like Mao’s China, it’s a Cultural Revolution led by power-drunk fanatics. The object is power. This religion is growing and militantly crusades to extend its power. Through explicit evangelical institutions such as “Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion” initiatives, its true believers have been given power within organizations. So there you have broad principles. Can we get this down to the classic 25 words or less? Let’s try… “Woke means an intolerant, revolutionary, collectivist ideology of power that’s at war with all society.” And yes, it’s explicitly racist. “NO!!!” will shriek the Woke. “We can’t be racist!! We’ve redefined “racism” to mean not us!” ANSWER: “Bullshit! Who cares what your private language says? ‘Racism’ has a factual meaning.” “NO!!!” will shriek the Woke! “That dictionary definition was written by White Supremacists!” ANSWER: “Bullshit. Facts are facts, and reality is.” “NO!!!” will shriek the Woke. “Facts and reality are defined by the dominant group as an instrument of white supremacy! We reject those facts and reality.” ANSWER: “Bullshit! Your rejection of truth and fact doesn’t mean they go away. I reject your attempts to pervert them to gain power.” “NO!!” will shriek the Woke. “Submit to us, or we will destroy you.” ANSWER: you grimly smile and say, “finally, you speak truth.” And then you either submit or prepare to fight because they will indeed try to destroy you. There’s no compromise, no middle ground. Remember: to them, it’s religion; they’re high on power, they are the Inquisition, and you are the devil. But if you submit, their boot is on your face forever, and if you fight, sometimes you win. And believe me; there are way more of us than there are of them. http://www.hideoutnow.com/2023/01/what-does-woke-mean-heres-real.html 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 13 minutes ago, Macnamara said: But if you submit, their boot is on your face forever, and if you fight, sometimes you win. And believe me; there are way more of us than there are of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campion Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 4 hours ago, Macnamara said: What Does “Woke” Mean? Great article Mac, what's missing is an explanation of who's behind it and driving the woke bulldozer across our country. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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