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Has the virus been isolated and does it exist?

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Thats a genome sequence, not endless pages of scientific language expressing a biased view towards articulating a need for most people to hire a linguistics expert. Just to help you understand that they are actually taken the piss out of you.

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On 8/12/2021 at 2:31 AM, DaleP said:

I heard someone say there has been 100s of FOI request made for virus information with an obviously answer "we do not hold such information".

 

Is this true? I've got two bookmarked though.

Yes, go there:https://www.fluoridefreepeel.ca/fois-reveal-that-health-science-institutions-around-the-world-have-no-record-of-sars-cov-2-isolation-purification/

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Below is an article I wrote earlier this month explaining why COVID probably doesn't exist (and also why viruses may not exist).

 

https://chipstero7.wordpress.com/2021/03/30/the-covid-scamdemic/

 

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One of the main reasons as to why people think SARS-CoV-2 exists (the proper name for the COVID virus) is because it has been photographed under an electron microscope. But are the electron microscope images really that of a virus? According to a paper published in August 2020 in the journal Kidney360 (Cassol et al 2020) the alleged images of SARS-CoV-2 that have been spread throughout the scientific community and unquestionably accepted as a new virus, are not that of a virus.6 The researchers saw indistinguishable SARS-CoV-2 structures in people with no evidence of the alleged COVID disease and in samples taken before COVID even occurred. It turns out that the alleged images of SARS-CoV-2 that are referenced as evidence for the virus’ existence are just a common protein coating on normal vesicles, picking up dyes in the electron microscope preparation. In all cases that they examined, they found structures indistinguishable to what is being called SARS-CoV-2. They are not viruses, but normal cell particles. Thomas Cowan gives a breakdown of the paper here.

 

Regarding the isolation of SARS-CoV-2, the authors of the book ‘Virus Mania’ asked the researchers of various papers that allegedly isolated the virus if their electron microscope images showed the purified virus. They had numerous replies, here, and in not one instance did the researchers say that they purified isolated SARS-CoV-2. Even Michael Laue from one of the world’s most important representatives of the COVID pandemic, the Robert Koch Institute, wrote in September 2020: “I am not aware of a paper which purified isolated SARS-CoV-2”. The main objective in the isolation and purification of viruses is the separation of the virus from the host tissues and cell organelles and is important for interpretation of whether the RNA obtained is contributed solely by a virus or something else.5 The authors of ‘Virus Mania’ conclude: “If no such particle purification has been done anywhere, how can one claim that the RNA obtained is part of a viral genome? And how can such RNA then be widely used to diagnose infection with a new virus? We have asked these two questions to numerous representatives of the official COVID narrative, but nobody could answer them”.

 

Others have also investigated the lack of evidence for the isolation of SARS-CoV-2, casting doubt over its existence. Christine Massey, a popular Canadian activist, and a colleague of hers in New Zealand, Michael Speth, submitted FOIA requests to dozens of science institutions and official bodies around the world, seeking any evidence that describes the isolation and purification of SARS-CoV-2. She had numerous replies, here, but none were able to provide any such evidence. Massey concludes on her website: “Freedom of Information laws reveal that no institution has registered the isolation and purification of SARS-CoV-2”. The lack of evidence for the isolation of SARS-CoV-2 has been corroborated by some officials in government institutions. In January 2021, the American television network NBC broadcasted a documentary in which there was an interview with Chief of Epidemiology of the Centers for Disease and Control of China, Wu Zunyou. It is an extensive documentary, in which after some exterior shots of the Wuhan market, the journalist asks why they didn’t share the data on SARS-CoV-2 found in the samples taken in December 2019, to which Zunyou replies: “They didn’t isolate the virus. That’s the issue”.

 

According to Kaufman, SARS-CoV-2 has not been isolated and demonstrated to cause disease according to Koch’s Postulates — a set of requirements established by Robert Koch in 1884 to identify microorganisms as the cause of disease. Koch’s Postulates can be simply stated as 1) Purify the pathogen from many cases with an illness 2) Expose animals (obviously not humans) to the pathogen 3) Verify that the same illness occurs. Kaufman says that none of these requirements have been met, not only for SARS-CoV-2, but also for other viruses. Indeed, famous virologist Thomas Rivers once said: “It is obvious that Koch’s Postulates has not been satisfied in viral diseases”. That was a long time ago, but the same problem still continues, and as Kaufman says, virologists still have not isolated and purified a virus anywhere, and so this is not just an issue with SARS-CoV-2. As an example, some years ago, two papers published in the journal Virology revealed that what the scientific community had previously called pure HIV under an electron microscope were actually vesicles and no real isolation and purification of the alleged virus had taken place (Gluschankof et al 1997 and Bess et al 1997).

 

 

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On 8/11/2021 at 11:31 PM, DaleP said:

I heard someone say there has been 100s of FOI request made for virus information with an obviously answer "we do not hold such information".

 

Is this true? I've got two bookmarked though.

 

I posted my experience with this ages ago when I submitted my FOI request.

 

I thought it was a simple request but no.

 

Question was, to paraphrase myself!

 

What evidence do you have, that Covid 19 has been the CAUSE of death, for anybody in the UK?

 

Answer I got (no joke) from PHE, "we don't know".

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9 hours ago, Deano7879 said:

It definetly exists me and my partner both had flu symptoms but the only difference was that we lost our sense of smell and taste.  And that's hasn't happened to us before. And I have flu every year.

 

If it wasn't for that anolomy I would of swore it was just flu. 

Many years ago I got flu and I lost my sense of smell and taste. I went to GP and he said is it a seasonal flu only.

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3 hours ago, dewin said:

Many years ago I got flu and I lost my sense of smell and taste. I went to GP and he said is it a seasonal flu only.

Same here. Everything was just devoid of any taste or smell. That's going back a good 20 years.

 

I had a chest infection at the turn of this year that hit me very quickly at work. Within three quarters of a shift I knew I had some sort of virus, ran out of energy, was sent home. I got a phone call two days later and was told that two colleagues had gone down with 'Covid' - I had to have a test before being allowed back to work.

 

I made a point of not putting the long swab up my nose or to the back of the throat, just touching the side of my mouth and leaving it at that. I am aware of my hypocrisy but did not want to die on that particular hill - I shall die on the vaccine hill.

 

It came back positive.

 

My symptoms were what you would expect from a viral chest infection. A bit of rest, codeine and plenty of water did the trick and I was fit for work after about three days. My boss insisted I stay away for eleven days and told me that my whole team had tested positive.

 

My wife got 'it' and one of my daughters did - neither knew anything was wrong with them except my daughter lost her sense of taste for a few days and my wife had cold symptoms. 

 

My other three kids were fine.

 

Going back three years ago I had some sort of virus (which wasn't bad) but then went on to develop post viral fatigue. That kept me off work for four weeks and the doctor said that it could conceivably go on for much longer. I went back to work after a month and went onto reduced duties because I had very low energy and symptoms of myalgia. It slowly passed over a four or five month period.

 

That condition has since been REBRANDED as Long Covid.

 

And that is where I stand. I do not know for sure whether SARSCoV-2 exists or not (I suspect not) but do know that there are many (if not all) ailments that are being rebranded as Covid.

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On 9/28/2021 at 12:23 PM, Saved said:

Same here. Everything was just devoid of any taste or smell. That's going back a good 20 years.

 

I had a chest infection at the turn of this year that hit me very quickly at work. Within three quarters of a shift I knew I had some sort of virus, ran out of energy, was sent home. I got a phone call two days later and was told that two colleagues had gone down with 'Covid' - I had to have a test before being allowed back to work.

 

I made a point of not putting the long swab up my nose or to the back of the throat, just touching the side of my mouth and leaving it at that. I am aware of my hypocrisy but did not want to die on that particular hill - I shall die on the vaccine hill.

 

It came back positive.

 

My symptoms were what you would expect from a viral chest infection. A bit of rest, codeine and plenty of water did the trick and I was fit for work after about three days. My boss insisted I stay away for eleven days and told me that my whole team had tested positive.

 

My wife got 'it' and one of my daughters did - neither knew anything was wrong with them except my daughter lost her sense of taste for a few days and my wife had cold symptoms. 

 

My other three kids were fine.

 

Going back three years ago I had some sort of virus (which wasn't bad) but then went on to develop post viral fatigue. That kept me off work for four weeks and the doctor said that it could conceivably go on for much longer. I went back to work after a month and went onto reduced duties because I had very low energy and symptoms of myalgia. It slowly passed over a four or five month period.

 

That condition has since been REBRANDED as Long Covid.

 

And that is where I stand. I do not know for sure whether SARSCoV-2 exists or not (I suspect not) but do know that there are many (if not all) ailments that are being rebranded as Covid.

 

Yes, it does, and in time, a number of virologists predict, the virus (Cov) will become more benign, following an evolutionary pathway previously taken by at least four other human coronaviruses that today cause nothing more than the ''common cold.''

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Some of you guys(and gals) crack me up!

Definitely. Mind control is strong......in "The Matrix".......but that was just an exciting action"science-fiction" movie....(Divinely inspired metaphorical expression describing this world----DREAM. Actually.). EgoMatrix.

 

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How many people have “psychological COVID”?

Sep3 by Jon Rappoport

 
ps; what is "black magic"?
Answer; the manipulation/influencing of another's mind to produce a disempowering result on the target and a stealing of that energy/life by the perpetrator.

 

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

what is "iatrogenesis"?

 

Medical Care Is 3rd Leading Cause of Death in U.S.

by Chris Kresser, M.S.

Published on April 26, 2008

https://chriskresser.com/medical-care-is-the-3rd-leading-cause-of-death-in-the-us/

 

I guess they're trying for number 1.

 

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On 10/1/2021 at 3:31 PM, Deano7879 said:

I've lost smell and taste before from a cold but that only lasted a few days 

 

This has lasted 3 weeks. My partner also has this problem. Definetly a new strain of virus. It's definetly not deadly to the average person though. 

 

- https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/smell-and-taste-disorders

 

- https://www.cedars-sinai.org/health-library/diseases-and-conditions/s/smell-and-taste-disorders.html

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I got bashed on here about having a virus and getting tested for it, which came back positive.

 

I just want to honestly give my experience, first 5 days I was under the weather and lost taste and smell. Days 6-7 I had really bad hot and cold shivers with dry cough, no food. Days 8-11 I had chronic diarrhea with the shivers and dry cough and I've torn my stomach muscles through coughing. My partner has gone through similar thing. I have never experienced anything like this, I've had to book an extra week off work, maybe another to follow after 10 days isolation. But thankfully I can see light at the end of the tunnel, starting to get appetite and started with mini walks. 

 

My experience won't push me into getting vaccinated. But don't underestimate that there is nothing out there, I can't remember a time hearing so many people have a virus in Sept/Oct with winter temperatures have not kicked in yet. 

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