Macnamara Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 (edited) On 12/15/2020 at 12:04 PM, sherbet said: Could someone clarify, DOES THIS VIRUS EXIST OR NOT as this is adding to all the confusion out there The claim of the government is that we are in the throes of a deadly pandemic. This should mean that the overall death figures for this year would then be substantially higher than previous years to indicate a mass die off as you would expect in a pandemic However we do have the problem when looking at those figures that the lockdowns themselves are causing deaths for example through people not getting treatments and diagnoses that they would normally be getting and also through older patients being given do-not-resussitate orders and also with suicides. Also the effect of the stress of the situation as well as locking people in their homes during and at the end of the flu season will itself have a negative effect on health as they won't receive the vitamin D and warmth of human interaction that they would otherwise get. The government has stopped publishing the suicide figures which then obviously masks that as a factor. So when we talk about 'excess deaths' we need to consider that many deaths will have been caused by the lockdowns themselves. So then we have the problem that many deaths are being attributed to 'covid' that are actually due to other things. Initially these were reported as deaths 'with' covid and not 'of' covid but they are being recorded as covid deaths. As covid figures have risen, flu and pneumonia figures have fallen suggesting that people who are dying of flu and pneumonia as is normal during the winter time are now being labelled as 'covid' deaths thereby skewing the figures This skewing of the figures is being enabled by the use of the PCR test which a public health england document admits cannot determine the presence of an infectious virus. the test is not identifying a complete virus genome, it just gets snippets of genetic material which are all found in the human body anyway and then these are being claimed to be part of a new virus Even the politicians themselves have admitted on live TV that the PCR tests produce many false positives but if we go with the official figures they are saying that the alleged virus has a survival rate, if you are under 70 of 99.98% which is comparable to the flu at 99.99% So the question then is, from a public health perspective as well as an economic one, whether it is proportional and reasonable to lock people down over something that is comparable to the flu? We can go deeper still and ask if it is even ethical to impose restrictions on people that are a complete breach of their common law rights of free movement and free association Edited December 16, 2020 by Macnamara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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