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Has the virus been isolated and does it exist?


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On 7/15/2022 at 6:02 AM, Lilymoon said:

 

And well some vaccine companies may be in on the conspiracy it is in possible for hundreds of labs and companies around the world to be in on the conspiracy.

 

 


 


Not if they are all working on a faulty premise and don't have a fundamental comprehension of how the body and 'sickness' works.

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On 7/13/2022 at 4:35 PM, Mitochondrial Eve said:

Same interpretation of the fact the the Queen, at 95y or so, attended a G20 meeting with dozens of people who’d just flown in with no quarantine. Her team wouldn’t expose her needlessly to a health risk. Surely then the most likely explanation is there was no new health hazard.’
 

 

This happened not long after she'd  even photographed alone and apart from her own family at Phillip's funeral and the picture used to promote partygate and social distancing.

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1 hour ago, SimonTV said:

 

apparently it is made from black cumin seeds 

 

Yeah, I was wrong on that after doing some searches, but it seems that it originally comes from a single microorganism isolated at the Kitasato Intitute, Tokyo, Japan from Japanese soil. They might use the black cumin seed as a medium for it to grow on.

 

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Discovered in the late-1970s, the pioneering drug ivermectin, a dihydro derivative of avermectin—originating solely from a single microorganism isolated at the Kitasato Intitute, Tokyo, Japan from Japanese soil ................. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043740/

 

I think what I must have read was that there are natural "safe and effective" 🙄  alternatives that perform as well as ivermectin. I'm glad you brought it up, because I had it burnt into by brain that it was derived from wormwood. My mistake.

 

 

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On 3/8/2023 at 11:41 PM, JCP said:

 

Yeah, I was wrong on that after doing some searches, but it seems that it originally comes from a single microorganism isolated at the Kitasato Intitute, Tokyo, Japan from Japanese soil. They might use the black cumin seed as a medium for it to grow on.

 

 

I think what I must have read was that there are natural "safe and effective" 🙄  alternatives that perform as well as ivermectin. I'm glad you brought it up, because I had it burnt into by brain that it was derived from wormwood. My mistake.

 

 

But WHY would you want to take ANYTHING for a NON-existent Threat, the GERM theory Boogeyman (Virus) ? Because some lying grifting so called dr's in the freedom movement tell you it works against a non-existent threat ? Anything, it seems to keep the virus bs relevant just like GAME of fiction Lab leaks and Shedding from the fake toxic injections, And the unusual clots reported by several pathologists ,which still remain un tested in a lab by trustworthy scientists to see what they are made from

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2 hours ago, tom341 said:

But WHY would you want to take ANYTHING for a NON-existent Threat, the GERM theory Boogeyman (Virus) ? Because some lying grifting so called dr's in the freedom movement tell you it works against a non-existent threat ? Anything, it seems to keep the virus bs relevant just like GAME of fiction Lab leaks and Shedding from the fake toxic injections, And the unusual clots reported by several pathologists ,which still remain un tested in a lab by trustworthy scientists to see what they are made from

 

 

The reason people are taking anti-parasitic meds is not because of a non-existent virus; it's because of the 4 different parasites found in the clot-shot (and most likely other sources too). Can the parasites shed their eggs to others? I dunno. Parasites do transfer from person to person, but I don't know their pathway. People can get parasites from their pets, so it's not crazy to think they can't pass from person to person.

 

Ivermectin is used to kill parasites ........ not so called viruses.

 

https://bluecat.media/four-parasites-found-in-pfizer-and-moderna-vials-and-vaccinated-blood-samples/

 

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14 hours ago, JCP said:

 

 

 

The reason people are taking anti-parasitic meds is not because of a non-existent virus; it's because of the 4 different parasites found in the clot-shot (and most likely other sources too). Can the parasites shed their eggs to others? I dunno. Parasites do transfer from person to person, but I don't know their pathway. People can get parasites from their pets, so it's not crazy to think they can't pass from person to person.

 

Ivermectin is used to kill parasites ........ not so called viruses.

 

https://bluecat.media/four-parasites-found-in-pfizer-and-moderna-vials-and-vaccinated-blood-samples/

 

They were GRIFTING Dog dewormer  well before the Jabs were rolled out ,lol

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14 hours ago, JCP said:

 

 

 

The reason people are taking anti-parasitic meds is not because of a non-existent virus; it's because of the 4 different parasites found in the clot-shot (and most likely other sources too). Can the parasites shed their eggs to others? I dunno. Parasites do transfer from person to person, but I don't know their pathway. People can get parasites from their pets, so it's not crazy to think they can't pass from person to person.

 

Ivermectin is used to kill parasites ........ not so called viruses.

 

https://bluecat.media/four-parasites-found-in-pfizer-and-moderna-vials-and-vaccinated-blood-samples/

 

NONSENSE just like the other claims that Have NEVER been VALIDATED  

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I don't know what covid is, but it's definitely something. I caught it right before the first lockdown, and was very ill, and three years later am only just starting to get over it. I'm erring on the side of some kind of bio-weapon. It's definitely weird in how it behaves, I think, beyond it just being a new 'natural' thing for immune systems to encounter. 

I'd been transferred to a new specialist for a chronic condition (which I manage very well mostly using complimentary therapies - I don't react well to any chemicals / additives anyway - not just medication), end of 2019, who'd ordered a full set of tests (my illness is systemic and affects all systems in my body), as he wanted to try me on a new natural protocol (Royal London Hospital for Integrated Medicine in London - they treat holistically / naturally as much as possible - you do have to pay for non-medicine more natural prescriptions though they keep prices as low as possible -  can be difficult to get a referral, even when you have a supportive GP, ime, but their pharmacy will advise everyone - they have a great natural health library open to the public too), so needed a complete picture for the 'before' and 'after' (which is out the window now, but the protocol has definitely helped time, though not the 'clean' trial my specialist wanted!).  

I caught 'it' March '20. Initially, I thought I was having a constant panic attack (my heart was going fast - I had that for a good year constantly after), due to the circumstances (I'm not very able due to above chronic condition and live alone, so it was very difficult for me to get supplies etc), and I'd already been warned to limit activities to essentials by my specialist physio end Feb. I think her advice if I caught it helped save my life, which, among other things, was to do postural drainage - she gave me a sheet of exercises, as doing that, started to get up the jelly stuff - even though I wasn't coughing that much by then (see below). I had been through the pneumonia stage (which I used to get every winter years ago, so I know it), so I'd been doing it.  If I hadn't have started doing that, the jelly may well have built up too much for me to breathe.

As well as the heart palpitations, I was on the phone to someone and walking and having great difficulty talking, and then I started to think I might have it. 

I had the 'jelly' stage towards the end,  which kind of freaked me out, but as my temperature was starting to come down by then, and I wasn't quite 'right' still, delirious (I had a high temperature for about 10? days - I kinda lost track, but it felt like I was high a lot of the time, seeing as I don't drink or take any drugs, I enjoyed it, lol). That stuff was like chopped jelly - I couldn't make head nor tail of it until someone sent me some medical research stuff from America on the 'jello' stage, around Sept (but the doctors weren't surprised), and the auto-immune mechanism for that, and it made perfect sense to me (there's more  out there these days if you look - but not in the MSM - hmmmm...). It fills up from the bottom of your lungs, which is why people die so rapidly if it's not kept in check (I was on my super-immune boosting herbs throughout, which helped considerably. when I stopped taking them as I was clearing the high temp stage, I was running low and you couldn't buy them anywhere online at that time), my temp and other symptoms started to get worse again, so I just continued taking them until I finished the pot, by then stocks were back up and I could get more).

And yes, I know of many people who have died of this within friendship circles - friends relatives - one friend lost uncle and dad within days of each other.  Another friend her brother. Another friend had it really badly and was hospitalised back then and stuck on a ventilator (just before I got it - partly why I did not want to go hospital!), luckily he survived, but is a shadow of himself. Someone had it, passed it on to his grandparents who both died, and her parents very ill - she was devastated. An old friend in east London's mosque got in their own refrigerator lorries to store all the bodies that his community (Moslem), were losing. It was horrific. Large families in close quarters... he would livestream all this on Facebook. The authorities did let them collect them (they have the 'have to be buried within a specified amount of time' for religious purposes), and he said at the time that something was up that he couldn't say, he was angry though, so angry. he was working 24/7 for a long time, not sure how long, after a while I needed to switch off from all that. 

I have been coughing up and out covid jelly goo since - lots of breath work , acupuncture & cupping, yoga for 'it', but there has been obstructions at the bottom of my lungs until recently (forward bends in yoga have helped literally 'squeeze' it out, as well as 'feeling' the obstruction, but as it's coming out it's still very thick, not so much chopped jelly stuff - but I can see my immune system is able to break it down more'). They test it every now and then to make sure it's not 'active' or something else.

The tests I started to do towards the end of Summer / year in 2020 (compared to the ones end 2019), showed something had damaged my heart, kidneys and lungs considerably. my heart & kidneys much better now - back to pretty much how they were before with lots of work! lungs still getting there, but much improved - I've had to go on oxygen a few times since, especially in the year or so post.

When I was 'feeling better' told my doctor(who had been checking in with me daily - I remember the relief in her voice when I said my temperature was coming down - my bp was also weird - the bottom number was really high throughout as well as it being overall very high for me), that I felt like there were balloons in my lungs, she told me to get an oximeter and prescribed antibiotics - the ones Trump was on - they worked a treat. when I checked my oxygen levels they were still dangerously low 86-92%, but as I'd 'improved' by then, I thought I'd try the antibiotics before going hospital and by the end of the first day, they were 92-94% and up to 96/ 97% by the end of the course. I don't normally take antibiotics, but sometimes...

I also did a 'jlly's juice' (fermented cabbage / kale & salt), to help clear me out before I started on the natural protocol (end of summer 2020), which had the weirdest results. Whatever 'it' is uses up a lot of water - during the infection I was drinking loads (but my urine was very dark), and post - when I was doing the cleanse, my body literally sucked the fluid from the juice. Usually, when you do it, it goes 'straight through you' - very watery - pulling the weirdest stuff out your system (I never drink it to vomiting - just the 'other end'), you need to be near the loo. This time, it never was 'loose' stage - but still pulled out loads of weird stuff. My digestion has never been right since - again, just doing lots of work for that, and it's definitely on track.

I didn't go to hospital initially, even though they wanted me to and I was talked through what would happen and what I needed to do! - I spoke to 2 doctors and just had friends checking in - so much more I could do at home to help myself, and I didn't want to go on a ventilator. So much more I could say about the infection - definitely not 'in my head' - as shown on the test results 'before and 'after' and long covid stuff since (which has played a merry dance with my chronic condition - oh, and my specialist said that summer of '20 that around 70% of his patients who caught 'it' had died, so I feel very lucky - even if it has been a struggle ever since). 

This was all before the vaccine rollout - but an effing shitshow that's been - and scary how people have just gone along with it. How they tried to force people to take them is horrific. I did do Astra (as it was based on the flu vaccine - which I don't take because of the side-effects, but figured I knew how to counter those, and I was still very weak and malleable - I won't be having it again).

Interestingly, when I went for it, you had to get signed off by the doctor, and when I stated my reasons for having astra not mrna, he nodded and said 'good'. I was in two minds to get it, and after the second (and last), dose, went straight to the sauna after and sweated it out - then had a crazy 'thirst' and needed to drink a large carton on coconut water and 2 litres of water in one - with no need ing the loo or anything. have seen among friends / circles lots of 'off' reports after taking it, and have had two good friends (both pretty close - one old, none more recent), 'die suddenly' soon after - and the amount of sudden death reports is off the scale. But that's for another thread -a nd seeing as it's taken my ages to post in this one, who knows when I will :D)

Interestingly, the second time I caught it, it was very mild, but kicked off the 'long covid' stuff very badly (but not sure if that's vaccine damage - probably, either way I'm just working on supporting my body best I can to heal itself).

it was at the beginning of lockdown I started to get back into DI - I heard a talk of him saying how they were using 'it'  to control, and it totally resonated with what I thought. Even a virologist back then who was a client of an acquaintance and was advising on workspace safety, said something was up with 'it'. I kind of just spiralled into illness and it's been a strange few years as have had to keep plates spinning with work (luckily based from home mostly before that, and like lots of people lost loads of work, have had to adapt - and that's still ongoing, tbh), and trying to figure all this health stuff out (had some other weird diagnosis's since with scans / bloods -  but it's generally going in the right direction). 

It's evil if you're vulnerable, and while many will get it mildly, or just have flu symptoms (or even flu), it can be very deadly. They're even saying that repeated mild cases make you more liable to long covid, but I personally think that maybe a lot of 'long covid' is vaccine damage.

I want to read again the book 'Emerging Viruses', by Horowitz, who talks about causes / bio weapons(?) causing AIDS / Ebola - can't remember specifically. Think it's that one that talks about 'prions', 'it' may be related. I've got a few others on my shelves about bio-weapons / 'viruses' from years ago....I need to dig them out,  if anyone's interested, I can post a little list.

I know my post will be controversial among the 'it isn't real' camp, and that's partly why I've been very hesitant to post my experience. Anyone's welcome to think I'm lying - I know my lived experience and no-one's opinion will change my experience - nor the 'before' and 'after' tests. And sorry for the long post - it could've been a lot longer! :D

*takes shelter*

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Was having this discussion other day and then we got down to Koch postulates thing. They were saying this is rarely used in reality although in theory you would like to use it. No idea if this statement is true or not as I don't work in science 

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