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Has the virus been isolated and does it exist?


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1 hour ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

Are they actually off 'sick' or are they having to 'self-isolate' because they tested 'positive'?

 

 

That I don’t know. Anyone who calls in sick has to get tested at my job. I just got tested and of course it came back positive. I have to quarantine for 5 days. This is all a bunch of bullshit. I was outside smoking in 30 degree weather so it makes sense I would get sick. 

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Not sure I have enough knowledge to know whether what David is speaking about is true or not. He seems to base this whole theory on a specific method being used to isolate this virus. IS this same method used to detect viruses generally speaking and in recent times? (yes I am assuming here for the sake of conversation that viruses exist)

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On 1/24/2022 at 6:30 PM, Mr H said:

Not sure I have enough knowledge to know whether what David is speaking about is true or not. He seems to base this whole theory on a specific method being used to isolate this virus. IS this same method used to detect viruses generally speaking and in recent times? (yes I am assuming here for the sake of conversation that viruses exist)

There is only 1 way to isolate a virus and it has never been done.  It is truly mind blowing once you look into it.  Read the book The Contagion Myth for more info.  Virus that have been seen under an electric microscope are just exosomes that we need to clean our cells!  

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8 minutes ago, coronaisdead said:

There is only 1 way to isolate a virus and it has never been done.  It is truly mind blowing once you look into it.  Read the book The Contagion Myth for more info.  Virus that have been seen under an electric microscope are just exosomes that we need to clean our cells!  

 

 

Thanks I may give it a try. Problem I have is I don't have much biology knowledge, so I can read that but not really challenge the material too much. I also read many people criticizing this works https://www.natureinstitute.org/article/craig-holdrege-and-jon-mcalice/some-comments-on-the-contagion-myth and again it's difficult to know who to believe in these situations. 

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14 hours ago, Mr H said:

 

 

Thanks I may give it a try. Problem I have is I don't have much biology knowledge, so I can read that but not really challenge the material too much. I also read many people criticizing this works https://www.natureinstitute.org/article/craig-holdrege-and-jon-mcalice/some-comments-on-the-contagion-myth and again it's difficult to know who to believe in these situations. 

I hear what your saying.  But trust me, you don't need much of a science background to understand how this has been all a fraud.  All in all it is pretty common sense.  But they want you to fell that way so you stay confused and don't bother looking into it.  Ive looked into the link you sent, it has some valid criticism (mostly verbal diarrhea and hogwash) and it does not discount the fact that no virus has been isolated.  That is the point you want to focus on, not the minute details.  Trust me, read the book, it is an easy read and easy to understand.  Another one is Virus Mania, it breaks down virus by virus.  Let me know if you need a link or something.  When you are reading with something that resonates with you, it just clicks, and you feel like a portal of knowledge is opening to you.  It is an amazing feeling brother. Very liberating.

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51 minutes ago, coronaisdead said:

I hear what your saying.  But trust me, you don't need much of a science background to understand how this has been all a fraud.  All in all it is pretty common sense.  But they want you to fell that way so you stay confused and don't bother looking into it.  Ive looked into the link you sent, it has some valid criticism (mostly verbal diarrhea and hogwash) and it does not discount the fact that no virus has been isolated.  That is the point you want to focus on, not the minute details.  Trust me, read the book, it is an easy read and easy to understand.  Another one is Virus Mania, it breaks down virus by virus.  Let me know if you need a link or something.  When you are reading with something that resonates with you, it just clicks, and you feel like a portal of knowledge is opening to you.  It is an amazing feeling brother. Very liberating.

Thank you. I will give the book a try and see how I get on.

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https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(20)31159-4?rss=yes

 

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 Experimental Model and Subject Details
 Cell lines
The Vero cells (African green monkey kidney, ATCC CCL-81, sex unknown) for virus propagation were cultured at 37°C and 5% CO2 in Modified Eagle Medium (MEM, Corning) supplemented with 10% fetal bovine serum (FBS, GIBCO) and 1% Penicillin-Streptomycin (GIBCO) in T75 culture flask (Grenier). When the cells confluence reached 90%, the cells were harvested with 0.25% Trypsin-EDTA (GIBCO) and passaged at a split ratio of 1:4.
 Method Details
 Sample preparation
SARS-CoV-2 virions isolated from the patient’s sputum (ID: ZJU_5) (Yao et al., 2020) were propagated in Vero cells (ATCC CCL-81). Sputum was diluted by 5 volumes of Modified Eagle Medium (MEM) complete medium supplemented with 2% fetal bovine serum (FBS), Amphotericin B (100 ng/ml), Penicillin G (200 units/ml), Streptomycin (200 μg/ml) and centrifuged to remove impurities at 3000 rpm for 10 min in room temperature. Finally, the supernatant was collected and filtered through a 0.45 μm filter. 3 mL of filtered supernatant was added to Vero cells in a T25 culture flask. After incubation at 35°C for 2 hours to allow binding, the inoculum was removed and replaced with fresh culture medium. The cells were incubated at 35°C and observed daily to evaluate cytopathic effects (CPE). The SARS-CoV-2 was tested by qRT-PCR and sequencing. For the preparation of enough virus samples, viruses were proliferated using Vero cells in T75 culture flasks. On four days post-infection, 100 mL cell supernatant was cleared from cell debris at 4,000 g centrifugation for 30 min and inactivated with paraformaldehyde (PFA; final concentration 3%) for 48 hours at 4°C. The supernatant was kept at 4°C afterward. All experiments involving infectious virus were conducted in approved biosafety level (BSL)-3 laboratory.
Purification, concentration, biochemical analysis and sample preparation for electron microscopy of inactivated virions were carried out in a BSL-2 lab. For cryo-ET, the fixed virions were pelleted through 30% sucrose cushion by ultracentrifugation (Beckman, IN) at 100,000 g for 3 hours at 4°C and resuspended in 60 μl HEPES-saline buffer containing 10 mM HEPES, pH 7.3, 150 mM NaCl at 4°C overnight (Neuman et al., 2008).

 

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I haven't seen this video posted yet in this thread but maybe it can be found elsewhere on the forum. It specifically addresses the matter of electron-microscopy to capture images of "viruses" and the preparation methods involved including embedding and staining.

 

The video raises questions as to what sort of effect these methods have on the biological samples. The tissue samples are poisoned and distorted in an artificial environment and become dead, rotting material. How can this be said to relate to what actually happens inside a living human body?

 

 

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Does the phantom exist or does it not exist??     There has always been one sure way of proving this - offer biological samples in the usual way to universities and correct-grade laboratories.   End of questioning and support for the scam.  

 

Across the entire planet, no-one has been able to acquire a sample from the relevant 'government' sections.   It is usual for qualified organisations/people to acquire a sample of any pathogen that is currently circulating in order to study it.   Not one single person or organisation has HAD A REPLY to their request.  

 

How much more proof of a (failed) scam  do we need????

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On 2/7/2022 at 8:38 AM, writer said:

Does the phantom exist or does it not exist??     There has always been one sure way of proving this - offer biological samples in the usual way to universities and correct-grade laboratories.   End of questioning and support for the scam.  

 

Across the entire planet, no-one has been able to acquire a sample from the relevant 'government' sections.   It is usual for qualified organisations/people to acquire a sample of any pathogen that is currently circulating in order to study it.   Not one single person or organisation has HAD A REPLY to their request.  

 

How much more proof of a (failed) scam  do we need????

Good point.  The answer of the virologist will be however to say they cannot have a sample of a pathogen as a virus only exists in relation to other living tissue and cannot exist without it.  Which is part of the scam of course.

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On 2/11/2022 at 5:31 PM, SimonTV said:

https://andrewkaufmanmd.com/sovi/

 

Statement On Virus Isolation (SOVI)


Isolation: The action of isolating; the fact or condition of being isolated or standing alone; separation from other things or persons; solitariness.

- Oxford English Dictionary

 

This Andrew Kaufman? https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-19-pseudoscience/psychiatrist-who-calmly-denies-reality

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I don't buy the official method of isolating the alleged viruses. They try to use a mumbo jumbo language, but even so, they cannot trick me. The economics financial guys use the same mumbo jumbo language. They almost always try to link a virus or bacteria to a major health problem, and so they did it already so far. The so called infection it is always about of a inflammation or an autoimmnune response, or a lack of the immune response. In reality the modern health problems are related to the spread of artificial radiations. After the 5G is widely spread you will see a proliferation of many alleged ilnesses caused by viruses as they already begun with tje HIV, COVID etc.

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I work on chromebooks for a school system. Over 30 a day I'm fixing, and despite all the filthy kid's germs, I haven't been sick at all since this bs started. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that coof is 100% bs. Noone can change my mind. 

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