Ziggy Sawdust Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 34 minutes ago, truth_seeker90 said: Psilocybin (mushrooms) have been proven to help with PTSD, depression and much more. They stopped end of life anxiety in 80% of cancer patients during a trial. And they have been used spiritually for thousands of years. I've not yet tried DMT but mushrooms are amazing and are helping me deal with my issues. They literally raise the vibrations of almost everyone that takes it. They make you feel connected with other people and nature, and promote positivity. I am really surprised at the attitude of this forum as I thought people on here would be more open minded to this sort of thing. Why do you think it is banned in almost every country? In the UK and US its a schedule 1 drug, meaning no therapeutic benefit, ha! They don't' want us to expand our mind because they are afraid it will bring down the system. It's not the forum's attitude, it's mine. I was a minority of one if you read through the thread, everyone else was pro mind bending substances. Nice of you to be concerned enough to join the forum in the last hour so you could answer me though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, Ziggy Sawdust said: It's not the forum's attitude, it's mine. I was a minority of one if you read through the thread, everyone else was pro mind bending substances. Nice of you to be concerned enough to join the forum in the last hour so you could answer me though. I'm with you, Zig. I don't have anything against others here that choose to experiment, but I'm just thinking about the bigger picture. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michi713 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 I’m about to jump outa my skin. My heart is burning and all everyone can do is fricking shop. Everyone is concerned about what is next to eat! Eat shit shop. I’m ready for the war of the vaccines and the anticipation is making me crazy so. I have an opportunity to try this new dmt stuff as a guinea pig. I hear it lasts 5 minutes, it’s yellow, and you must smoke it, so maybe if I can find out what exactly it’s made of and where it comes from. Looking into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth_seeker90 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 45 minutes ago, Ziggy Sawdust said: It's not the forum's attitude, it's mine. I was a minority of one if you read through the thread, everyone else was pro mind bending substances. Nice of you to be concerned enough to join the forum in the last hour so you could answer me though. No worries, although I have been a member for years but forgot my login so made a new one and I've been following Icke for 15 years. I have read the thread and there is so much misinformation about psychedelics it hurts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth_seeker90 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 37 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said: I'm with you, Zig. I don't have anything against others here that choose to experiment, but I'm just thinking about the bigger picture. And what is the bigger picture? Why do they not want us taking it for the last 50 years? It's because it wakes people up that the system is broken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth_seeker90 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, Michi713 said: I’m about to jump outa my skin. My heart is burning and all everyone can do is fricking shop. Everyone is concerned about what is next to eat! Eat shit shop. I’m ready for the war of the vaccines and the anticipation is making me crazy so. I have an opportunity to try this new dmt stuff as a guinea pig. I hear it lasts 5 minutes, it’s yellow, and you must smoke it, so maybe if I can find out what exactly it’s made of and where it comes from. Looking into it. DMT is the main ingredient of ayahuasca, it comes from many sources in nature and we produce it in our bodies in trace amounts. Some think that it is our gateway to the rest of the universe through the pineal gland. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michi713 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 This seems laboratory stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Sawdust Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Sounds like you're all stoned to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, truth_seeker90 said: And what is the bigger picture? Why do they not want us taking it for the last 50 years? It's because it wakes people up that the system is broken. Because they needed us as their pawns over the last 50 years. Can you explain how it has woken you up? Not having a dig, just curious. People say DMT doesn't give you knowledge, but helps you connect things that you already knew. Is that true? Edited December 13, 2020 by EnigmaticWorld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth_seeker90 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 (edited) 32 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said: Because they needed us as their pawns over the last 50 years. Can you explain how it has woken you up? Not having a dig, just curious. People say DMT doesn't give you knowledge, but helps you connect things that you already knew. Is that true? I have only done mid level doses although I am trying to go deeper with each one. It's helping me erase years of anxiety and depression, and I am not the only one. It's kind of like a reset button as it allows your brain to make new connections, and disrupts the default mode network, which is what guides most of our actions, why we live our lives on auto pilot. As far as waking me up, it has made me feel connected to everything that is living in ways I cannot describe. I am barely scratching the surface but it is the brain being used 100%, they did scans in trials and it is incredible. It's hearing color and seeing sound. It's realising that this reality that we see is only a fraction of what there really is. I've not done DMT (yet) but I want to one day. From what I have heard and read, it either is all in your brain or it is an actual gateway to all there is in the universe, but has to be experienced personally to know for sure. Edited December 13, 2020 by truth_seeker90 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Just now, truth_seeker90 said: I have only done mid level doses although I am trying to go deeper with each one. It's helping me erase years of anxiety and depression, and I am not the only one. It's kind of like a reset button as it allows your brain to make new connections, and disrupts the default mode network, which is what guides most of our actions, why we live our lives on auto pilot. As far as waking me up, it has made me feel connected to everything that is living in ways I cannot describe. I am barely scratching the surface but it is the brain being used 100%, they did scans in trials and it is incredible. It's seeing color and hearing sound. It's realising that this reality that we see is only a fraction of what there really is. I've not done DMT (yet) but I want to one day. From what I have heard and read, it either is all in your brain or it is an actual gateway to all there is in the universe, but has to be experienced personally to know for sure. Out of reactions, but thanks. If something helped you with anxiety and depression then that is good. I know someone that suffers from terrible PTSD after nearly dying when giving birth to her kid. She talked about trying weed in the past, but I'm not sure if it would help because it might make her paranoia worse. I often wonder if there is anything else that may help her. I might have to look into CBD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michi713 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 There is 5 N-Dimethyltryptamine and 4 N-Dimethyltryptamine 5 being the stronger of the two. It is administered as an inhalant, with a max dose of 18mg. There has to be some other chemicals present that they use to isolate the substance, and an aerosol. “Many aerosol sprays contain highly toxic chemicals like xylene and formaldehyde” So, it’s a pass for me. Gonna stick to my ayahuasca plants. Natural is best. By the way, they gauge effectiveness by the “Mystical Experience Questionnaire”. Goofy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Personally I think it should be made compulsory for anyone going into politics to have a dam good dose of either mushrooms or DMT 1 they would probably reevaluate their decision 2 If they still chose that particular path , they might do it for all the right reasons, now wouldn't that be a change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yasmina Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 This makes no sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr H Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 (edited) On 12/11/2020 at 11:30 AM, Staeld said: I never tried DMT but I'm sure some of you have. Would taking DMT be a good idea if you're depressed? Ultimately it's more likely to wake people up than dumb them down. Which kind of goes against the general agenda nowadays? "UK regulators have given the go-ahead for the first clinical trial of the use of the psychedelic drug dimethyltriptamine (DMT) to treat depression. The trial will initially give the drug – known as the “spirit molecule” for the powerful hallucinogenic trips it induces – to healthy individuals, but it is expected to be followed by a second trial in patients with depression, where DMT will be given alongside psychotherapy." Full article here: https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/dec/09/psychedelic-drug-dmt-to-be-trialled-in-uk-to-treat-depression?CMP=fb_gu&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1607553383 I have done Ayahuasca which has DMT in it. I doubt very much that what the Doctors give you will be anything like that! So most likely not comparing apples....... I can comment whether or not Ayahuasca would help with depression. My experience and everyone in the group - essentially got what they asked for from Aya, they just did not get it in the form, method shape, that they envisaged!!!! And I don't have another word for it, but the best word is, that there is a lot of "work" involved internally during and after. So yes I think it would help, I think there are a lot easier ways of dealing with depression though and personally I wouldn't do Aya with any kind of serious mental issues. The best way I know of dissipating depression is to take the time to question, who is the one that is depressed? But a lot of people do not take this time or it seems like too much effort and will go for the meds instead. But once you have established that you are not your feelings, then you will still be depressed from time to time maybe, but it shouldn't be too much of a problem. And the other thing I personally do is taking the time to separate out the emotions and feelings and the story. When they appear together they are super strong and can cause overwhelm. But when you start to isolate and investigate each on their own, in my experience they start to neutrilse. Edited December 16, 2020 by Mr H 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth_seeker90 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 On 12/16/2020 at 10:38 PM, Mr H said: I have done Ayahuasca which has DMT in it. I doubt very much that what the Doctors give you will be anything like that! So most likely not comparing apples....... I can comment whether or not Ayahuasca would help with depression. My experience and everyone in the group - essentially got what they asked for from Aya, they just did not get it in the form, method shape, that they envisaged!!!! And I don't have another word for it, but the best word is, that there is a lot of "work" involved internally during and after. So yes I think it would help, I think there are a lot easier ways of dealing with depression though and personally I wouldn't do Aya with any kind of serious mental issues. The best way I know of dissipating depression is to take the time to question, who is the one that is depressed? But a lot of people do not take this time or it seems like too much effort and will go for the meds instead. But once you have established that you are not your feelings, then you will still be depressed from time to time maybe, but it shouldn't be too much of a problem. And the other thing I personally do is taking the time to separate out the emotions and feelings and the story. When they appear together they are super strong and can cause overwhelm. But when you start to isolate and investigate each on their own, in my experience they start to neutrilse. Yes, definitely work has to be put in, such as meditation or some kind of introspection. However i will say that there is a difference between knowing that you are not your feelings and thoughts, and actually feeling it at a fundamental level, which is what psychs can help with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooey Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 they are giving drugs that facilitate possession an entity is then correcting the humans behavior till they can fit in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayfaring Stranger Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 That news makes me sooooo sad, like really, really extra sad. . . . . any waivers need to be signed to get the new meds?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illuminator Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 On 12/12/2020 at 2:43 AM, Macnamara said: I've got no problem with marijuana being legal and think that education not prohibition is the best approach. I also think there are clearly medical benefits and other useful usages for the hemp plant That said I'm a little wary about how the system is now taking the brakes off marijuana right across the west. Why are they doing that now? I'm concerned that they are somehow going to use it against us eg GMO's or genetic tampering Same mate. It was banned in sin city for so long for a reason. Do you think it's just adding another revenue stream for elites? The tory back benchers have already positioned themselves perfectly with the biggest weed farms in the country. I'm keeping a close eye on it as the pharmacy sector will be at the forefront if or when weed is rolled out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illuminator Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 On 12/16/2020 at 9:42 PM, Yasmina said: This makes no sense. I'm trying to wrap my head round it too Yas, thing is if they make it legal. Can we grow our own? Or be forced to get it from " official" sources. You been able to get hold of some green in Tanzania mate? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 13 hours ago, The Illuminator said: Do you think it's just adding another revenue stream for elites? I don't think profit making is the primary driver of the global elites If they are pushing something suddenly then it will be because it in some way helps them advance their transhumanist, technocratic agenda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illuminator Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 9 hours ago, Macnamara said: I don't think profit making is the primary driver of the global elites If they are pushing something suddenly then it will be because it in some way helps them advance their transhumanist, technocratic agenda Yeah I suppose so mate. Money will be a added bonus not primary aim. But what could their agenda be for letting us plebs smoke some herb? Surely that wouldn't be a good thing for them and their transhumanist technocratic bullshit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 11 hours ago, The Illuminator said: Yeah I suppose so mate. Money will be a added bonus not primary aim. But what could their agenda be for letting us plebs smoke some herb? Surely that wouldn't be a good thing for them and their transhumanist technocratic bullshit? Because it might somehow be used as a delivery system. The elites are looking at all sorts of ways to get things into people for example GMO's and genetically modified mosquitos and of course mRNA injections Marijuana could be a good trojan horse 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayneDough Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 I tried DMT once- The walls melted away, some lady appeared in a blue outfit and told me that the world I came from (our world) is an illusion and that the real one was in the realm I was in with her. She said I would always be unhappy and that my life would not be a good one and that I would be with her again one day. She then melted away and I was back. Pretty shitty if you ask me (can I say that profanity? sorry if not!)....cannot believe it would be given for depression that is awful. I was really messed up for like a week after having that trip. I guess the hallucinations have been really amazing for some but I will not be returning to the psychedelic side any time soon. -Jayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluecat2020 Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 (edited) Rev 18:23 ASV and the light of a lamp shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the princes of the earth; for with thy sorcery were all the nations deceived. "sorcery" is the Greek word pharmakeia G5331 Original: φαρμακεία Transliteration: pharmakeia Strong's Definition: From G5332; medication (" pharmacy" ), that is, (by extension) magic (literal or figurative): - sorcery, witchcraft. Edited January 5, 2021 by Bluecat2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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