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3 minutes ago, RobSS said:

There are white people who belong to different groups, but they are still white, despite the genetic variance.

 

so chinese people are the same as japanese people because they are all yellow?

 

3 minutes ago, RobSS said:

This is perfectly illustrated in this short clip where a white ethno-nationalist makes friends with a man who is white, but when he learns that he's actually Jewish, he refuses to acknowledge that he is white, which really illustrates the inconsistencies of ethno-nationalists and that it's all to do with superficial looks, rather than inner spiritual character:

 

but what kinds of things shape inner spiritual character?

 

can the destruction of target populations in fact clear the way to darker societies being created? (darker in spiritual character not in skin colour as such)

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3 minutes ago, RobSS said:

The political system is controlled by the cabal. If you want to change the system, you have to change the cabal, if you want a country full of your chosen people who fit your criteria and are white.

 

no rob it was YOU who spoke about a chosen people

 

native people are not 'chosen' they are simply there

 

chosenism is the replacement of native peoples with a desired group

 

3 minutes ago, RobSS said:

Every party that tries to do something about immigration ends up with increasing problems because of their association with extremist views that most people don't want to entertain.

 

because of the vocal pressure of people such as yourself who will not acknowledge the realities that are being explained to you

 

its like trying to push a boulder up a hill speaking to you

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Just now, Macnamara said:

 

so chinese people are the same as japanese people because they are all yellow?

 

I've never said the Chinese and Japanese are the same!

 

Just now, Macnamara said:

 

but what kinds of things shape inner spiritual character?

 

can the destruction of target populations in fact clear the way to darker societies being created? (darker in spiritual character not in skin colour as such)

 

 

The kinds of things that shape inner character are the same for genetic groups, treating other people how you wanted to be treated yourself and not causing harm to others.

 

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1 minute ago, RobSS said:

 

I've never said the Chinese and Japanese are the same!

 

if its ok to lump lots of different people together as 'white' then by your same rationale it is ok to lump together the japanese and chinese as yellow

 

i disagree with that myself as they have distinct cultures and characteristics

1 minute ago, RobSS said:

The kinds of things that shape inner character are the same for genetic groups, treating other people how you wanted to be treated yourself and not causing harm to others.

 

speaking to you i now know how chief settle must have felt trying to speak to people in washington. They just do not listen

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1 minute ago, Macnamara said:

 

no rob it was YOU who spoke about a chosen people

 

No, it was God who said who is chosen and who is not chosen. Do you know better than God?

 

1 minute ago, Macnamara said:

 

native people are not 'chosen' they are simply there

 

But were they here originally, or did they originally move here from other countries?

 

1 minute ago, Macnamara said:

 

because of the vocal pressure of people such as yourself who will not acknowledge the realities that are being explained to you

 

its like trying to push a boulder up a hill speaking to you

 

 

The reason why most people don't entertain your views is because a lot of the language is couched in skin colour and discrimination and most people can see through that.

 

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3 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

if its ok to lump lots of different people together as 'white' then by your same rationale it is ok to lump together the japanese and chinese as yellow

 

i disagree with that myself as they have distinct cultures and characteristics

 

If that's the case, how comes the ethno-nationalist in the video didn't realise he'd befriended a  Jew? By your logic, he should've been able to see the difference in the way he looked and in the way he spoke, but he didn't. He looked like one of the same kind.

 

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4 minutes ago, RobSS said:

No, it was God who said who is chosen and who is not chosen. Do you know better than God?

 

ah so you speak for god and therefore anything you do is ok even if it harms me

 

4 minutes ago, RobSS said:

But were they here originally, or did they originally move here from other countries?

 

there you go trying to act as an apologist for genocide

 

you are trying to rationalise away your immorality

 

textbooks said the native americans went across a landbridge 10,000 years ago except now they are finding clovis artifacts dating way older than that in the americas

 

4 minutes ago, RobSS said:

The reason why most people don't entertain your views is because a lot of the language is couched in skin colour and discrimination and most people can see through that.

 

what do you mean?

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3 minutes ago, RobSS said:

If that's the case, how comes the ethno-nationalist in the video didn't realise he'd befriended a  Jew? By your logic, he should've been able to see the difference with his physical eyes, and in the way he spoke, but he didn't. He looked like one of the same kind.

 

you could probably find a japanese person who could fool a chinese person but that doesn't make it ok to genocide people

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ah so you speak for god and therefore anything you do is ok even if it harms me

 

I've never claimed to speak for God, but you don't speak for God either.

 

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there you go trying to act as an apologist for genocide

 

you are trying to rationalise away your immorality

 

But you were talking about indigenous people having the right to be where they are, but they weren't originally always indigenous.

 

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what do you mean?

 

 

A lot of people dislike politics based on skin colour and discrimination and the idea of "sending the immigrants back", especially when immigrants are referred to in the most awful terms by some people that you associate with.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

you could probably find a japanese person who could fool a chinese person but that doesn't make it ok to genocide people

 

It's not a majority view that white people are being "genocided". Not saying people with that view don't exist, but it's not a majority.

 

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4 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

you could probably find a japanese person who could fool a chinese person

 

 

But it does illustrate that many white Jews and white people who are not Jews, look and act the same.

 

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1 minute ago, RobSS said:

I've never claimed to speak for God, but you don't speak for God either.

 

i didn't mention god, you did

 

1 minute ago, RobSS said:

But you were talking about indigenous people having the right to be where they are, but they weren't originally always indigenous.

 

according to who? the people that told you that civilisation dated back 12,000 years until gobekli tepi proved that wrong?

 

the people who told you that native americans went to the americas 10000 years ago except clovis artifacts are being dated to much older than that?

 

the people who told you that columbas 'discovered' the americas except viking artifacts have been found in the americas?

 

the people who are telling you to take covid jabs to protect you from a virus?

 

you just want to try and rob people of their ancestral claim

1 minute ago, RobSS said:

A lot of people dislike politics based on skin colour and discrimination and the idea of "sending the immigrants back", especially when immigrants are referred to in the most awful terms by some people that you associate with.

 

i never said anything about sending people back. I said to stop mass immigration

 

and as for your point about most people disliking politics based on skin colour i disagree with you. I think that as long as it is politics that makes society look more like them a lot of people support it

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2 minutes ago, RobSS said:

It's not a majority view that white people are being "genocided".

 

you don't actually know that for a fact rob

 

what you have is an idea of what you WANT reality to be in your head and you go with that because it fluffs your ego to do so. the reality is that we live in a culture of fear because of the aggression of people like yourself which makes many people afraid to express their true feelings until it comes to the ballot box where they vote for brexit and then out of misplaced hope they vote for the tories because they want their borders controlled

2 minutes ago, RobSS said:

Not saying people with that view don't exist, but it's not a majority.

 

a majority of people probably believe the covid jabs are a medical prophylactic but it doesn't make them right

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1 minute ago, Macnamara said:

 

i didn't mention god, you did

 

I know you didn't mention God but you said I was choosing, but I'm not. It's God that choses.

 

1 minute ago, Macnamara said:

 

according to who? the people that told you that civilisation dated back 12,000 years until gobekli tepi proved that wrong?

 

the people who told you that native americans went to the americas 10000 years ago except clovis artifacts are being dated to much older than that?

 

the people who told you that columbas 'discovered' the americas except viking artifacts have been found in the americas?

 

the people who are telling you to take covid jabs to protect you from a virus?

 

you just want to try and rob people of their ancestral claim

 

 

I was just making the point about what it means to be native. White people colonised many parts of the world, like America  were they weren't native.

 

 

1 minute ago, Macnamara said:

 

i never said anything about sending people back. I said to stop mass immigration

 

 

I don't have a problem with ending mass immigration. I also disagree about "sending people back".

 

1 minute ago, Macnamara said:

and as for your point about most people disliking politics based on skin colour i disagree with you. I think that as long as it is politics that makes society look more like them a lot of people support it

 

 

We'll have to agree to disagree about that, then.

 

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3 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

if they acted the same then there wouldn't be any problems would there?

 

The guy in that video became friends with a man who he thought was just like himself. He looked like himself in terms of racial origin and he acted and sounded the same, but it was only when he learned that he was Jewish, he refused to acknowledge that he was white. Go figure!

 

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7 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

you don't actually know that for a fact rob

 

what you have is an idea of what you WANT reality to be in your head and you go with that because it fluffs your ego to do so. the reality is that we live in a culture of fear because of the aggression of people like yourself which makes many people afraid to express their true feelings until it comes to the ballot box where they vote for brexit and then out of misplaced hope they vote for the tories because they want their borders controlled

 

 

I think there may be a sizeable number of people, even possibly a majority of people who'd like to end mass immigration, but I've got no problems with that. But most people don't want to send the immigrants back and most people don't want leaders associated with those that refer to immigrants in derogatory terms.

 

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1 minute ago, RobSS said:

I know you didn't mention God but you said I was choosing, but I'm not. It's God that choses.

 

according to you

 

according to me we have freewill and this reality is what we make of it. if we make stupid decisions like letting half the world into our country then we will suffer the consequences

 

1 minute ago, RobSS said:

I was just making the point about what it means to be native. White people colonised many parts of the world, like America  were they weren't native.

 

no they weren't native to the americas and i never said they were

 

are you trying to make an argument that 2 wrongs make a right?

 

1 minute ago, RobSS said:

I don't have a problem with ending mass immigration.

 

words are cheap rob but your actions say otherwise and i suspect that at the ballot box your actions would be geared towards things that aid the replacement of white europeans

 

1 minute ago, RobSS said:

We'll have to agree to disagree about that, then.

 

when you become a parent you realise that you have a responsibility to people beyond yourself and hip ideas of radical leftism suddenly seem pretty damn irresponsible. For example which responsible native parent would willing support things that will see their own children become a despised minority in their own ancestral land?

 

The same is not true of black children who still have other countries around the world where they can be part of a demographic majority

 

I don't think there is anything wrong with a parent wanting to hand over a country to their children that will be safe for them to live in and it doesn't matter how much people like yourself try to make me feel bad for that as i simply WILL NOT

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22 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

The guy in that video became friends with a man who he thought was just like himself. He looked like himself in terms of racial origin and he acted and sounded the same, but it was only when he learned that he was Jewish, he refused to acknowledge that he was white. Go figure!

 

i don't know anything about that or the circumstances of those people

 

what i do know is that the western universities are filling up with woke professors who are trying to decry something that they call 'whiteness' whilst supporting politicians who decry sections of the public which they call 'deplorables' or 'bigots' because those despised people do not support open borders and unlimited immigration

 

not to mention the corporate media demonisation of those people along with the no-platforming of those people by big tech to deprive them of a voice

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3 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

I think there may be a sizeable number of people, even possibly a majority of people who'd like to end mass immigration, but I've got no problems with that. But most people don't want to send the immigrants back and most people don't want leaders associated with those that refer to immigrants in derogatory terms.

 

why do you constantly make strawman arguments when i am always SO CLEAR about what i'm saying

 

i told you that what i'm talking about is stopping mass immigration

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Just now, Macnamara said:

 

according to you

 

according to me we have freewill and this reality is what we make of it. if we make stupid decisions like letting half the world into our country then we will suffer the consequences

 

No, it wasn't according to me. It's according to what it states in the Bible.

 

Just now, Macnamara said:

 

no they weren't native to the americas and i never said they were

 

are you trying to make an argument that 2 wrongs make a right?

 

I'm just question what it means to be actually native.

 

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words are cheap rob but your actions say otherwise and i suspect that at the ballot box your actions would be geared towards things that aid the replacement of white europeans

 

I don't take part in or vote for the political system, but like I said, I think stopping mass immigration is a good idea, but I disagree with sending the immigrants back and referring to immigrants in derogatory terms.

 

Just now, Macnamara said:

 

when you become a parent you realise that you have a responsibility to people beyond yourself and hip ideas of radical leftism suddenly seem pretty damn irresponsible. For example which responsible native parent would willing support things that will see their own children become a despised minority in their own ancestral land?

 

There you go using very emotive language, like "a despised minority" that puts a lot of people off. Language like that will only divide rather than heal.

 

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The same is not true of black children who still have other countries around the world where they can be part of a demographic majority

 

I don't think there is anything wrong with a parent wanting to hand over a country to their children that will be safe for them to live in and it doesn't matter how much people like yourself try to make me feel bad for that as i simply WILL NOT

 

As I said above, I'm not against stopping mass immigration. Everyone wants to feel safe and secure in the country that they live in.

 

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6 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

i don't know anything about that or the circumstances of those people

 

what i do know is that the western universities are filling up with woke professors who are trying to decry something that they call 'whiteness' whilst supporting politicians who decry sections of the public which they call 'deplorables' or 'bigots' because those despised people do not support open borders and unlimited immigration

 

 

It doesn't help when people on your side refer to immigrants in really derogatory terms. A lot of that kind of talk only feeds the divide and conquer agenda of the cabal.

 

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No, it wasn't according to me. It's according to what it states in the Bible.

 

which you are interpreting in ways that suit you

 

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I'm just question what it means to be actually native.

 

would you question aboriginal australians about being natives of australia? or is it just white people who you want to single out as having no ancestral lands?

 

Just now, RobSS said:

I don't take part in or vote for the political system, but like I said, I think stopping mass immigration is a good idea, but I disagree with sending the immigrants back and referring to immigrants in derogatory terms.

 

where has that happened in our discussion?

 

Just now, RobSS said:

There you go using very emotive language, like "a despised minority" that puts a lot of people off. Language like that will only divide rather than heal.

 

the forces of movement are not looking to 'heal' rob. They are looking to genocide

 

the only question is whether or not enough people can pushback enough to prevent it

 

Just now, RobSS said:

As I said above, I'm not against stopping mass immigration. Everyone wants to feel safe and secure in the country that they live in.

 

and yet it is me you argue against and not antifa

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7 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

why do you constantly make strawman arguments when i am always SO CLEAR about what i'm saying

 

i told you that what i'm talking about is stopping mass immigration

 

I'm agreeing with you that mass immigration should be stopped.

 

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Just now, RobSS said:

It doesn't help when people on your side refer to immigrants in really derogatory terms. A lot of that kind of talk only feeds the divide and conquer agenda of the cabal.

 

they are probably trying to point to problems that they perceive as being directly related to immigration in order to persuade people of the need to end the mass immigration in order to prevent those problems from growing

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