Is there an agenda to reduce the White European population?

[RobSS]

3 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

if they acted the same then there wouldn't be any problems would there?

 

The guy in that video became friends with a man who he thought was just like himself. He looked like himself in terms of racial origin and he acted and sounded the same, but it was only when he learned that he was Jewish, he refused to acknowledge that he was white. Go figure!

 

[RobSS]

7 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

you don't actually know that for a fact rob

 

what you have is an idea of what you WANT reality to be in your head and you go with that because it fluffs your ego to do so. the reality is that we live in a culture of fear because of the aggression of people like yourself which makes many people afraid to express their true feelings until it comes to the ballot box where they vote for brexit and then out of misplaced hope they vote for the tories because they want their borders controlled

 

 

I think there may be a sizeable number of people, even possibly a majority of people who'd like to end mass immigration, but I've got no problems with that. But most people don't want to send the immigrants back and most people don't want leaders associated with those that refer to immigrants in derogatory terms.

 

[Macnamara]

1 minute ago, RobSS said:

I know you didn't mention God but you said I was choosing, but I'm not. It's God that choses.

 

according to you

 

according to me we have freewill and this reality is what we make of it. if we make stupid decisions like letting half the world into our country then we will suffer the consequences

 

1 minute ago, RobSS said:

I was just making the point about what it means to be native. White people colonised many parts of the world, like America  were they weren't native.

 

no they weren't native to the americas and i never said they were

 

are you trying to make an argument that 2 wrongs make a right?

 

1 minute ago, RobSS said:

I don't have a problem with ending mass immigration.

 

words are cheap rob but your actions say otherwise and i suspect that at the ballot box your actions would be geared towards things that aid the replacement of white europeans

 

1 minute ago, RobSS said:

We'll have to agree to disagree about that, then.

 

when you become a parent you realise that you have a responsibility to people beyond yourself and hip ideas of radical leftism suddenly seem pretty damn irresponsible. For example which responsible native parent would willing support things that will see their own children become a despised minority in their own ancestral land?

 

The same is not true of black children who still have other countries around the world where they can be part of a demographic majority

 

I don't think there is anything wrong with a parent wanting to hand over a country to their children that will be safe for them to live in and it doesn't matter how much people like yourself try to make me feel bad for that as i simply WILL NOT

[Macnamara]

22 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

The guy in that video became friends with a man who he thought was just like himself. He looked like himself in terms of racial origin and he acted and sounded the same, but it was only when he learned that he was Jewish, he refused to acknowledge that he was white. Go figure!

 

i don't know anything about that or the circumstances of those people

 

what i do know is that the western universities are filling up with woke professors who are trying to decry something that they call 'whiteness' whilst supporting politicians who decry sections of the public which they call 'deplorables' or 'bigots' because those despised people do not support open borders and unlimited immigration

 

not to mention the corporate media demonisation of those people along with the no-platforming of those people by big tech to deprive them of a voice

Edited January 16, 2022 by Macnamara

[Macnamara]

3 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

I think there may be a sizeable number of people, even possibly a majority of people who'd like to end mass immigration, but I've got no problems with that. But most people don't want to send the immigrants back and most people don't want leaders associated with those that refer to immigrants in derogatory terms.

 

why do you constantly make strawman arguments when i am always SO CLEAR about what i'm saying

 

i told you that what i'm talking about is stopping mass immigration

[RobSS]

Just now, Macnamara said:

 

according to you

 

according to me we have freewill and this reality is what we make of it. if we make stupid decisions like letting half the world into our country then we will suffer the consequences

 

No, it wasn't according to me. It's according to what it states in the Bible.

 

Just now, Macnamara said:

 

no they weren't native to the americas and i never said they were

 

are you trying to make an argument that 2 wrongs make a right?

 

I'm just question what it means to be actually native.

 

Just now, Macnamara said:

 

words are cheap rob but your actions say otherwise and i suspect that at the ballot box your actions would be geared towards things that aid the replacement of white europeans

 

I don't take part in or vote for the political system, but like I said, I think stopping mass immigration is a good idea, but I disagree with sending the immigrants back and referring to immigrants in derogatory terms.

 

Just now, Macnamara said:

 

when you become a parent you realise that you have a responsibility to people beyond yourself and hip ideas of radical leftism suddenly seem pretty damn irresponsible. For example which responsible native parent would willing support things that will see their own children become a despised minority in their own ancestral land?

 

There you go using very emotive language, like "a despised minority" that puts a lot of people off. Language like that will only divide rather than heal.

 

Just now, Macnamara said:

The same is not true of black children who still have other countries around the world where they can be part of a demographic majority

 

I don't think there is anything wrong with a parent wanting to hand over a country to their children that will be safe for them to live in and it doesn't matter how much people like yourself try to make me feel bad for that as i simply WILL NOT

 

As I said above, I'm not against stopping mass immigration. Everyone wants to feel safe and secure in the country that they live in.

 

[RobSS]

6 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

i don't know anything about that or the circumstances of those people

 

what i do know is that the western universities are filling up with woke professors who are trying to decry something that they call 'whiteness' whilst supporting politicians who decry sections of the public which they call 'deplorables' or 'bigots' because those despised people do not support open borders and unlimited immigration

 

 

It doesn't help when people on your side refer to immigrants in really derogatory terms. A lot of that kind of talk only feeds the divide and conquer agenda of the cabal.

 

[Macnamara]

Just now, RobSS said:

No, it wasn't according to me. It's according to what it states in the Bible.

 

which you are interpreting in ways that suit you

 

Just now, RobSS said:

I'm just question what it means to be actually native.

 

would you question aboriginal australians about being natives of australia? or is it just white people who you want to single out as having no ancestral lands?

 

Just now, RobSS said:

I don't take part in or vote for the political system, but like I said, I think stopping mass immigration is a good idea, but I disagree with sending the immigrants back and referring to immigrants in derogatory terms.

 

where has that happened in our discussion?

 

Just now, RobSS said:

There you go using very emotive language, like "a despised minority" that puts a lot of people off. Language like that will only divide rather than heal.

 

the forces of movement are not looking to 'heal' rob. They are looking to genocide

 

the only question is whether or not enough people can pushback enough to prevent it

 

Just now, RobSS said:

As I said above, I'm not against stopping mass immigration. Everyone wants to feel safe and secure in the country that they live in.

 

and yet it is me you argue against and not antifa

[RobSS]

7 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

why do you constantly make strawman arguments when i am always SO CLEAR about what i'm saying

 

i told you that what i'm talking about is stopping mass immigration

 

I'm agreeing with you that mass immigration should be stopped.

 

[Macnamara]

Just now, RobSS said:

It doesn't help when people on your side refer to immigrants in really derogatory terms. A lot of that kind of talk only feeds the divide and conquer agenda of the cabal.

 

they are probably trying to point to problems that they perceive as being directly related to immigration in order to persuade people of the need to end the mass immigration in order to prevent those problems from growing

[RobSS]

Just now, Macnamara said:

 

which you are interpreting in ways that suit you

 

It's not a question of "interpretation". It's what the text says if you read the context. Isaiah is reporting what God said as per the text.

 

Just now, Macnamara said:

 

would you question aboriginal australians about being natives of australia? or is it just white people who you want to single out as having no ancestral lands?

 

 

I personally don't care where people come from. It was you who started talking about natives.

 

Just now, Macnamara said:

 

the forces of movement are not looking to 'heal' rob. They are looking to genocide

 

Which is why we need Divine intervention.

 

Just now, Macnamara said:

the only question is whether or not enough people can pushback enough to prevent it

 

and yet it is me you argue against and not antifa

 

 

Yes, I do argue against Antifa and BLM too. The extreme left and right are different sides of the same coin, IMO.

 

[Macnamara]

7 minutes ago, RobSS said:

I'm agreeing with you that mass immigration should be stopped.

 

you HAVE to say that because to say otherwise is to argue for the replacement of white people and thereby make a public declaration of hostile aggression towards white people

[RobSS]

Just now, Macnamara said:

 

you HAVE to say that because to say otherwise is to argue for the replacement of white people and thereby make a public declaration of hostile aggression towards white people

 

No, I've been saying mass immigration should be stopped since the 1980's. 

 

 

[Macnamara]

7 minutes ago, RobSS said:

It's not a question of "interpretation". It's what the text says if you read the context. Isaiah is reporting what God said as per the text.

 

i'm not talking about your bible quote i am talking about how you are applying it to your belief in impacting the unseen world through the work of wagner

 

7 minutes ago, RobSS said:

I personally don't care where people come from.

 

of course you don't, because its not you that is being replaced and the more people that flood in the more people there will be who simply DON'T CARE and that is EXACTLY what the globalist elites want

 

7 minutes ago, RobSS said:

It was you who started talking about natives.

 

yes i said it is wrong to genocide them

 

7 minutes ago, RobSS said:

Which is why we need Divine intervention.

 

no we need people to start being honest

 

7 minutes ago, RobSS said:

Yes, I do argue against Antifa and BLM too. The extreme left and right are different sides of the same coin, IMO.

 

i ain't seeing that going on. All i'm seeing is you pushing back on any thread where people are talking about the cabals weaponisation of mass immigration

Edited January 16, 2022 by Macnamara

[Macnamara]

2 minutes ago, RobSS said:

No, I've been saying mass immigration should be stopped since the 1980's.

 

but if you looked inside the head of every non native and looked at how they voted at the ballot box and in referendums would the majority be voting for things that prevented immigration or for things that boosted it?

 

did you and they vote for brexit for example?

Edited January 16, 2022 by Macnamara

[RobSS]

Just now, Macnamara said:

 

i'm not talking about your bible quote i am talking about how you are applying it to your belief in impacting the unseen world through the work of wagner

 

There's nothing in the work of Wagner where Parsifal choses anyone, and I've never said Parsifal is about judging anyone... it's definitely not.

 

Just now, Macnamara said:

 

of course you don't, because its not you that is being replaced and the more people that flood in the more people there will be who simply DON'T CARE

 

It's not just white people being replaced, it's anyone one who wants to retain their humanity they want to replace.

 

Just now, Macnamara said:

 

yes i said it is wrong to genocide them

 

 

no we need people to start being honest

 

 

i ain't seeing that going on. All i'm seeing is you pushing back on any thread where people are talking about the cabals weaponisation of mass immigration

 

 

I'm all for stopping mass immigration so it can't be used as a weapon, but at the same time, I care about how the problem is tackled, and when people appear to blame "the Jews" or refer to immigrants like animals, or deny that racism exists against black people, then yes, I will highlight the problems with those arguments because it puts those trying to stop the cabal in a very bad light.

 

 

[RobSS]

6 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

but if you looked inside the head of every non native and looked at how they voted at the ballot box and in referendums would the majority be voting for things that prevented immigration or for things that boosted it?

 

did you and they vote for brexit for example?

 

Then you have to win them over to your side of thinking, but it won't be done using extremist language.

 

[Macnamara]

Just now, RobSS said:

There's nothing in the work of Wagner where Parsifal choses anyone, and I've never said Parsifal is about judging anyone... it's definitely not.

 

you have quoted the bible whilst saying that you are pursuing your own goal of redeeming the world through the work of wagner

 

Just now, RobSS said:

It's not just white people being replaced, it's anyone one who wants to retain their humanity they want to replace.

 

the two things are related

 

if they can replace white people then they will control everyone else. they already have the chinese in a chokehold; now they want to do the same to europeans and the japanese and the koreans:

Replacement Migration: Is It a Solution to Declining and Ageing Populations?

United Nations projections indicate that over the next 50 years, the populations of virtually all countries of Europe as well as Japan will face population decline and population ageing. The new challenges of declining and ageing populations will require comprehensive reassessments of many established policies and programmes, including those relating to international migration.

Focusing on these two striking and critical population trends, the report considers replacement migration for eight low-fertility countries (France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Republic of Korea, Russian Federation, United Kingdom and United States) and two regions (Europe and the European Union). Replacement migration refers to the international migration that a country would need to offset population decline and population ageing resulting from low fertility and mortality rates.

https://www.un.org/en/development/desa/population/publications/ageing/replacement-migration.asp

 

Just now, RobSS said:

I'm all for stopping mass immigration so it can't be used as a weapon, but at the same time, I care about how the problem is tackled, and when people appear to blame "the Jews" or refer to immigrants like animals, or deny that racism exists against black people, then yes, I will highlight the problems with those arguments because it puts those trying to stop the cabal in a very bad light.

 

i have a far more compassionate view then you. I see those people as hurt and scared

[Macnamara]

2 minutes ago, RobSS said:

Then you have to win them over to your side of thinking, but it won't be done using extremist language.

 

no it is done by them becoming honest....which is down to them

[RobSS]

5 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

you have quoted the bible whilst saying that you are pursuing your own goal of redeeming the world through the work of wagner

 

You asked me my views about the future. I was just presenting general things from the Bible. What I presented was noting to do with Parsifal, but regarding Wagner's drama, the return of the Holy Spear to the Grail opens a way to Jesus Christ. It's drama does not say Parsifal is the redeemer, it says that Jesus Christ is the Redeemer.

 

5 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

if they can replace white people then they will control everyone else. they already have the chinese in a chokehold; now they want to do the same to europeans and the japanese and the koreans:

 

 

What will put people off from taking you seriously is making it about skin colour.

 

5 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

i have a far more compassionate view then you. I see those people as hurt and scared

 

 

You have a far more patronising view, that's for sure!

 

 

[RobSS]

12 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

no it is done by them becoming honest....which is down to them

 

And not being too extremist.

 

[Macnamara]

1 hour ago, RobSS said:

And not being too extremist.

 

replacement IS extremist

[RobSS]

Just need to clarify, the difference between term "The Great Work", as used by Freemason Albert Pike and the its use in science to drive the transhumanist agenda, and the common use of the term in Alchemy, that is to say of turning lead into gold as a metaphor for turning lower consciousness into higher consciousness, which is the essence of Christian belief that's in the service of Jesus Christ.

 

 

[Macnamara]

1 hour ago, RobSS said:

You asked me my views about the future. I was just presenting general things from the Bible. What I presented was noting to do with Parsifal, but regarding Wagner's drama, the return of the Holy Spear to the Grail opens a way to Jesus Christ. It's drama does not say Parsifal is the redeemer, it says that Jesus Christ is the Redeemer.

 

no you spoke of looking for a portal and that you saw yourself having a role in that process

 

1 hour ago, RobSS said:

What will put people off from taking you seriously is making it about skin colour.

 

i don't, i talk about culture, language, history, economics, values, beliefs, common law etc

 

the people making it about colour are the critical race crowd who are radicalising immigrants againts the natives. perhaps you should complain to them

 

1 hour ago, RobSS said:

You have a far more patronising view, that's for sure!

 

a more ACCURATE view

[RobSS]

1 minute ago, Macnamara said:

 

replacement IS extremist

 

Of course it's extremist but by becoming extreme in retaliation runs the risk of becoming what you hate, which is why a lot of people regard the extreme left with the same suspicion as the extreme right.