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11 minutes ago, RobSS said:

I did actually note your sarcasm and your sincerity

LOLZ!!!!

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8 minutes ago, RobSS said:

I've already said I've taken it back, and I'm sorry you're not happy that I'm pleased you don't dislike all of Jewish culture.

 

No you didnt.

 

Tell the forum that you were wrong to imply that I said such a thing. 

Tell the forum that I have said nothing about jewish culture at all therefore you were wrong to imply I dislike even some aspects of jewish culture.

Stop being such a fvking subversive agent. 

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39 minutes ago, skitzorat said:

 

 

So if I tell this fukwit to fuck off and mind your own fucking business does that make me a Jew as I am a gentile who has faith in Christ and look to God for inspiration, can anyone that is Jewish please answer my question as I am going to tell you to fuck off as well, are we clear on these terms!

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22 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

the same things that are happening here because all these cabal controlled countries are all following the same script

 

 

yes a lot of working people here are waking up yes. Perhaps the 'professional' class are lagging behind a bit

 

The four pillars of satanism are:

 

-eugenics

-self preservation as the highest goal

-social darwinnism

-moral reletavism

 

so i think its fair to say that biden is a satanist as he is presiding over the worlds biggest eugenics programme

 

Here you go this nice woman gets it, no idea who she is but pay attention to the closing comments.

 

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6 hours ago, RobSS said:

I don't think you have. I spent several years exposing the agenda when I was helping to run the Freemasonry Watch forum and website 20 years ago. What were you doing 20 years ago?

 

running a forum isn't the same as providing insight rob

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1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

 

running a forum isn't the same as providing insight rob

 

I helped build the website and contributed more articles on that website than you have on this forum.

 

So what did you do 20 years ago, again?

 

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19 minutes ago, RobSS said:

I helped build the website and contributed more articles on that website than you have on this forum.

 

I'll give you some kudos for that rob

 

so where's your penetrating analysis of freemasonry now?

 

19 minutes ago, RobSS said:

So what did you do 20 years ago, again?

 

I'm a lot younger than you. 20 years ago i was brainwashed by the left. At that point noam chomsky was my hero and i believed that everyone on the planet should be brown

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37 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

I'll give you some kudos for that rob

 

Thank you.

 

37 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

so why aren't you insightful anymore rob? Where's the penetrating analysis?

 

 

I wrapped up a lot of my research many years ago because I wasn't coming across anything new, but I still post quintessential insights scattered around the forum, some of which are in the Roger Scruton thread and in other posts I carefully linked to from that thread, the most significant being the preceding two posts to this post:

 

https://forum.davidicke.com/index.php?/topic/23037-roger-scruton/&do=findComment&comment=375597

 

Apart from that, I now put most of my energy into manifesting what I've come to understand through music, to make it a reality and not just idle talk:

 

https://forum.davidicke.com/index.php?/topic/24670-being-alive/&do=findComment&comment=374345

 

37 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

I'm a lot younger than you. 20 years ago i was brainwashed by the left. At that point noam chomsky was my hero

 

That's fair enough. You haven't revealed much about yourself, but it's interesting you're earlier origins are left of centre.

 

I started out on this path over 40 years ago, in a world that's very different to now. The man who runs the FW website, which is the largest of its kind on the Internet, and one of the longest established, is incredibly knowledgable. He taught me on a one to one basis. So I had a very good apprenticeship, from a master, over many years, but I've also been coached by some of Britain's best classical singers of the age over the last 30 years. Parsifal is a very similar character to Hamlet: “The play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king.” The difference between Hamlet and Parsifal is that Parsifal has the potential to step into reality, a reality that couldn't have been explored before 2020, so it feels like a lot of things are slowly beginning to converge. Things could've turned out differently, if the secret societies had done their job properly, but as things have not turned out the way that Beethoven, Mozart and Goethe expected, we have to be prepared for a bit of a bumpy landing. My job is to put things to the test in an open and public way and see how people react. That's what real art is really about.  

 

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3 minutes ago, RobSS said:

That's fair enough. You haven't revealed much about yourself, but it's interesting you're earlier origins are left of centre.

 

i still believe in decentralising power and would ideally live in a gift economy beyond currency

 

i no longer believe everyone should be brown though. I think people should be allowed to simply be and not be constantly meddled with

 

3 minutes ago, RobSS said:

I started out on this path over 40 years ago, in a world that's very different to now. The man who runs the FW website, which is the largest of its kind on the Internet, and one of the longest established, is incredibly knowledgable. He taught me on a one to one basis. So I had a very good apprenticeship, from a master, over many years, but I've also been coached by some of Britain's best classical singers of the age over the last 30 years. Parsifal is a very similar character to Hamlet. “The play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king.”. The difference between Hamlet and Parsifal is that Parsifal has the potential to step into reality, a reality that couldn't have been explored before 2020, so it feels like a lot of things are slowly beginning to converge. Things could've turned out differently, if the secret societies had done their job properly, but as things have not turned out the way that Beethoven, Mozart and Goethe expected, we have to be prepared for a bit of a bumpy landing. My job is to put things to the test in an open and public way and see how people react. That's what real art is really about. 

 

You sound like you got drawn into the occult world that you were studying

 

do you see yourself pursuing the great work and what exactly do you see that great work to be?

 

 

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16 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

i still believe in decentralising power and would ideally live in a gift economy beyond currency

 

i no longer believe everyone should be brown though. I think people should be allowed to simply be and not be constantly meddled with

 

 

Did you really once believe everyone should be brown? I'm not disbelieving you, but in all my life, I've never ever come across anyone who's openly said that to me, and I certainly have never come across that belief anywhere in the media. I'm not saying such things have never been said, but these days, especially, nothing surprises me, as we really are living in the apocalypse and everything that is, simply is, so it would be surprising if any belief is left out.

 

16 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

You sound like you got drawn into the occult world that you were studying

 

do you see yourself pursuing the great work and what exactly do you see that great work to be?

 

 

I can't deny I was drawn into the hidden world. I can't even deny having once being in hell, though at the time, I was in too much shock to admit it, but that was many years ago. Now, I'm between polarities and am using music keep negative spirits from Hades charmed and at bay, a bit like Orpheus. Orpheus never made it though, as he got pulled back after he turning round. Out of all the mythological characters, Parsifal is one who makes it clear, but that certainly isn't the reality at the moment. Everything is unchartered territory at the moment.

 

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18 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

do you see yourself pursuing the great work and what exactly do you see that great work to be?

 

 

I forgot to address this question. The Great Work involves using science to harness the power of the Holy Spirit. Adepts like Albert Pike were clear about that, but I'm not interested in transhumanism, so I'm not prepared to collaborate with that.

 

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1 minute ago, RobSS said:

Did you really once believe everyone should be brown? I'm not disbelieving you, but in all my life, I've never ever come across anyone who's openly said that to me, and I certainly have never come across that belief anywhere in the media. I'm not saying such things have never been said, but these days, especially, nothing surprises me, as we really are living in the apocalypse and everything that is, simply is, so it would be surprising if any belief is left out.

 

yes i was very bohemian, very 'liberal'.....i was woke before woke was a thing

 

to quote myself at that time: 'the sooner everybody is the same colour the better'

 

But over time i realised a number of things. I realised that the 'left' was being pushed by powerful corporate forces which were the very same people behind the worst excesses of what the left was calling 'capitalism'

 

I then realised that we didn't really have capitalism or else the banks would not have been bailed out after 2008 and in fact what we have is what prof sutton called 'corporate socialism'

 

Then i learned about the occult aspect because i was looking into the knights templar. Through them you come to banking, freemasonry and kabbalah as they all converge. I have met various people at various times of my life who have helped with little pieces of the puzzle

 

I also realised that to wish everyone to be the same is in fact intolerant. It is intolerant of how everyone actually is and then i realised the left is actually incredibly intolerant and that view has only deepened with the growth of political correctness, critical race theory and wokeness which i all see as agendas of the corporate socialist elites who dupe people at grassroots into following their agendas

 

1 minute ago, RobSS said:

I can't deny I was drawn into the hidden world. I can't even deny having once being in hell, though at the time, I was in too much shock to admit it, but that was many years ago. Now, I'm between to polarities and am using music keep the negative spirits from Hades charmed and at bay, a bit like Orpheus. Orpheus never made it though, as he got pulled back after he turning round. Out of all the mythological characters, Parsifal is one who makes it clear, but that certainly isn't the reality at the moment. Everything is unchartered territory at the moment.

 

i think orpheus did make it out of hell but had to leave eurydice behind

 

When you say 'making it clear' do you mean yourself personally or do you mean the world as a whole and if so what does that look like?

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7 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

I think orpheus did make it out of hell but had to leave eurydice behind

 

 

I'll reply to the other point anon...

 

Orpheus left Eurydice behind but she was his soul and his life. Without her, he was torn to pieces in a Bacchic orgy. Even Kundry said to Parsifal she could raise him to godhead, if he spent an hour having sex with her. An hour of carnal ecstasy, but what a heavy price to pay for the soul.

 

Parsifal: For eternity would you be damned with me if I were to forget my mission and spend one hour in your embrace! I was sent here also for your salvation, for which you must abandon your desires. The balm that will end your suffering does not flow from their source; salvation can never be granted you until it has been sealed. There is another salvation - a different one - for which I saw the brothers longing in their despair, in utmost distress, scourging and mortifying their flesh. But who can see clearly and brightly the only fixed fount of salvation? Oh misery, that prevents deliverance! Oh, benighted madness of the world: that while seeking for salvation, thirsts for the fountain of damnation!

 

Kundry: So was it my kiss that gave you world-perception? Then the full embrace of my loving surely will raise you to godhead! Redeem the world, if that's your mission; let me make you a god, for just an hour, rather than leave me to eternal damnation, my wound never to be healed!

 

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Orpheus-Greek-mythology

 

"Orpheus himself was later killed by the women of Thrace. The motive and manner of his death vary in different accounts, but the earliest known, that of Aeschylus, says that they were Maenads urged by Dionysus to tear him to pieces in a Bacchic orgy because he preferred the worship of the rival god Apollo. His head, still singing, with his lyre, floated to Lesbos, where an oracle of Orpheus was established. The head prophesied until the oracle became more famous than that of Apollo at Delphi, at which time Apollo himself bade the Orphic oracle stop. The dismembered limbs of Orpheus were gathered up and buried by the Muses. His lyre they had placed in the heavens as a constellation."

 

 

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20 minutes ago, RobSS said:

I forgot to address this question. The Great Work involves using science to harness the power of the Holy Spirit. Adepts like Albert Pike were clear about that, but I'm not interested in transhumanism, so I'm not prepared to collaborate with that.

 

but what does your great work through art aim to achieve? Do you hope to transcend through the invocation of Parsifal?

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1 minute ago, Macnamara said:

 

but what does your great work through art aim to achieve?

 

I never think about it in terms of a 'great work'. That's a brotherhood term. When Parsifal meets Gurnemanz for the first time, after many years of wandering, one of the first words Gurnemanz says, even before he recognises Parsifal, is that he's not one of the brothers:

 

"Who approaches the holy spring in the dark armour of a warrior? It is not one of the brothers!"

 

One of the things I've been getting to grips with for a few years now is the realisation that if it's ever possible to leave, it may be necessary to abandon all hope. It's a paradox, but without hope, you have to come to terms with what's happening in the moment, in the "now". "Hope" implies that one is not in the moment.

 

"Lasciate ogni speranza, voi ch'entrate."

 

1 minute ago, Macnamara said:

 

Do you hope to transcend through the invocation of Parsifal?

 


I don't "hope" for anything any more. I don't even know if I'm looking forwards to it. It may be a question of having to find the courage to walk through fire. I don't know. I don't even know if I'm crazy. I could be in an asylum waiting for the white coats to arrive... to be dragged off to the NWO detention camps.

 

 

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1 minute ago, bobb said:

 

Is the total deception of Mankind, so that Mankind acts as one body without knowing as an offense to GOD.

 

Which is why I've clearly distanced myself from it.

 

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15 hours ago, RobSS said:

no, you said "you are pleased" that I dont dislike "all" of jewish culture.

 

I said nothing about jewish culture what so ever.

You only took back some of it, still saying I dislike some of jewish culture.

I have already said numerous times how dangerous it is to talk about such things online.

You implying to the readers of this forum I'm an anti-Semite.

 

I want you to apologise and say in exact words that you were wrong to imply to other readers I dislike "some" of jewish culture thereby implying I'm an anti-semite.

You were wrong to just say I just dont like "some" of it.

 

Tell the forum I said nothing at all about jewish culture and your sorry for implying so.

 

Tell the fvking truth for a change!

Stop labelling people whose ideas you dont agree with with dangerous derogatory labels

 

 

 

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17 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

I also realised that to wish everyone to be the same is in fact intolerant. It is intolerant of how everyone actually is and then i realised the left is actually incredibly intolerant and that view has only deepened with the growth of political correctness, critical race theory and wokeness which i all see as agendas of the corporate socialist elites who dupe people at grassroots into following their agendas

 

 

I agree. It's wrong to force tolerance. I believe people should be able to say what they want to say but that they should be prepared to back up what they say, or to be questioned about what they believe. I first posted against political correctness back in 2007, and highlighted then how it would be used to bring about the opposite of what it was claimed it would achieved.


We should not all be forced into thinking the same, into some kind of manufactured unity. C. S. Lewis summed it up very well:

 

Even on the biological level life is not like a pool but like a tree. It does not move towards unity but away from it and the creatures grow further apart as they increase in perfection. Good, as it ripens, becomes continually more different not only from evil but from other good.

 

I do not think that all who choose wrong roads perish; but their rescue consists in being put back on the right road. A wrong sum can be put right: but only by going back till you find the error and working it afresh from that point, never by simply going on. Evil can be undone, but it cannot "develop" into good. Time does not heal it. The spell must be unwound, bit by bit, "with backward mutters of dissevering power"-or else not. It is still "either-or."

 

If we insist on keeping Hell (or even earth) we shall not see Heaven: if we accept Heaven we shall not be able to retain even the smallest and most intimate souvenirs of Hell. I believe, to be sure, that any man who reaches Heaven will find that what he abandoned (even in plucking out his right eye) was precisely nothing: that the kernel of what he was really seeking even in his most depraved wishes will be there, beyond expectation, waiting for him in "the High Countries".

 

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18 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

At that point noam chomsky was my hero and i believed that everyone on the planet should be brown

 

 

Could you explain in more detail how you came to the belief that everyone should be brown? Was it something that you felt should happen, something that came from within you, or was it something that Chomsky said that you identified with. or something else?

 

18 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

do you see yourself pursuing the great work and what exactly do you see that great work to be?

 

 

I mentioned that the Great Work involves using science to harness the power of the Holy Spirit, and that adepts like Albert Pike had spoken about this. In Morals and Dogma, Albert Pike wrote:

 

"There is in nature one most potent force, by means whereof a single man, who could possess himself of it, and should know how to direct it, could revolutionize and change the face of the world.

 

This force was known to the ancients. It is a universal agent, whose Supreme law is equilibrium; and whereby, if science can but learn how to control it, it will be possible to change the order of the Seasons, to produce in night the phenomena of day, to send a thought in an instant round the world, to heal or slay at a distance, to give our words universal success, and make them reverberate everywhere.

 

This agent, partially revealed by the blind guesses of the disciples of Mesmer, is percisely what the Adepts of the middle ages called the elementary matter of the great work. The Gnostics held that it composed the igneous body of the Holy Spirit; and it was adored in the secret rites of the Sabbat or the Temple, under the hieroglyphic figure of Baphomet or the hermaphroditic goat of Mendes.

 

There is a Life-principle of the World, a universal agent, wherein are two natures and a double current, of Love and Wrath. This ambient fluid penetrates everything... it is the body of the Holy Spirit, the universal agent, the Serpent devouring his own tail..."

 

("Morals and Dogma", the chapter: "Knight of the Sun or Prince Adept" [in a discussion for the 28th degree of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry], by Albert Pike, L.H. Jenkins, Inc., 1950; p.818)

 

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16 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

Could you explain in more detail how you came to the belief that everyone should be brown? Was it something that you felt should happen, something that came from within you, or was it something that Chomsky said that you identified with. or something else?

 

 

I mentioned that the Great Work involves using science to harness the power of the Holy Spirit, and that adepts like Albert Pike had spoken about this. In Morals and Dogma, Albert Pike wrote:

 

"There is in nature one most potent force, by means whereof a single man, who could possess himself of it, and should know how to direct it, could revolutionize and change the face of the world.

 

This force was known to the ancients. It is a universal agent, whose Supreme law is equilibrium; and whereby, if science can but learn how to control it, it will be possible to change the order of the Seasons, to produce in night the phenomena of day, to send a thought in an instant round the world, to heal or slay at a distance, to give our words universal success, and make them reverberate everywhere.

 

This agent, partially revealed by the blind guesses of the disciples of Mesmer, is percisely what the Adepts of the middle ages called the elementary matter of the great work. The Gnostics held that it composed the igneous body of the Holy Spirit; and it was adored in the secret rites of the Sabbat or the Temple, under the hieroglyphic figure of Baphomet or the hermaphroditic goat of Mendes.

 

There is a Life-principle of the World, a universal agent, wherein are two natures and a double current, of Love and Wrath. This ambient fluid penetrates everything... it is the body of the Holy Spirit, the universal agent, the Serpent devouring his own tail..."

 

("Morals and Dogma", the chapter: "Knight of the Sun or Prince Adept" [in a discussion for the 28th degree of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry], by Albert Pike, L.H. Jenkins, Inc., 1950; p.818)

 

This post reeks of Freemasonary I view this as blatant Apolloyon worshiping.  

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Just now, Zusies said:

This post reeks of Freemasonary I view this as blatant Apolloyon worshiping.  

 

Yes, the quote was by Albert Pike, who's considered the father of Scottish Rite Freemasonry.

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, RobSS said:

 

Yes, the quote was by Albert Pike, who's considered the father of Scottish Rite Freemasonry.

 

Hello, I am aware of who Albert Pike is, not good!

 

 

1 minute ago, RobSS said:

 

Yes, the quote was by Albert Pike, who's considered the father of Scottish Rite Freemasonry.

 

 

 

 

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