Is there an agenda to reduce the White European population?

[Macnamara]

20 minutes ago, RobSS said:

I forgot to address this question. The Great Work involves using science to harness the power of the Holy Spirit. Adepts like Albert Pike were clear about that, but I'm not interested in transhumanism, so I'm not prepared to collaborate with that.

 

but what does your great work through art aim to achieve? Do you hope to transcend through the invocation of Parsifal?

[RobSS]

1 minute ago, Macnamara said:

 

but what does your great work through art aim to achieve?

 

I never think about it in terms of a 'great work'. That's a brotherhood term. When Parsifal meets Gurnemanz for the first time, after many years of wandering, one of the first words Gurnemanz says, even before he recognises Parsifal, is that he's not one of the brothers:

 

"Who approaches the holy spring in the dark armour of a warrior? It is not one of the brothers!"

 

One of the things I've been getting to grips with for a few years now is the realisation that if it's ever possible to leave, it may be necessary to abandon all hope. It's a paradox, but without hope, you have to come to terms with what's happening in the moment, in the "now". "Hope" implies that one is not in the moment.

 

"Lasciate ogni speranza, voi ch'entrate."

 

1 minute ago, Macnamara said:

 

Do you hope to transcend through the invocation of Parsifal?

 

I don't "hope" for anything any more. I don't even know if I'm looking forwards to it. It may be a question of having to find the courage to walk through fire. I don't know. I don't even know if I'm crazy. I could be in an asylum waiting for the white coats to arrive... to be dragged off to the NWO detention camps.

 

 

[bobb]

1 hour ago, RobSS said:

The Great Work

 

Is the total deception of Mankind, so that Mankind acts as one body without knowing as an offense to GOD.

[RobSS]

1 minute ago, bobb said:

 

Is the total deception of Mankind, so that Mankind acts as one body without knowing as an offense to GOD.

 

Which is why I've clearly distanced myself from it.

 

[skitzorat]

15 hours ago, RobSS said:

 

Yes, I did, I took it back, see here:

 

https://forum.davidicke.com/index.php?/topic/15419-is-there-an-agenda-to-reduce-the-white-european-population/&do=findComment&comment=376789

 

no, you said "you are pleased" that I dont dislike "all" of jewish culture.

 

I said nothing about jewish culture what so ever.

You only took back some of it, still saying I dislike some of jewish culture.

I have already said numerous times how dangerous it is to talk about such things online.

You implying to the readers of this forum I'm an anti-Semite.

 

I want you to apologise and say in exact words that you were wrong to imply to other readers I dislike "some" of jewish culture thereby implying I'm an anti-semite.

You were wrong to just say I just dont like "some" of it.

 

Tell the forum I said nothing at all about jewish culture and your sorry for implying so.

 

Tell the fvking truth for a change!

Stop labelling people whose ideas you dont agree with with dangerous derogatory labels

 

 

 

 

[Grumpy Owl]

MOD NOTE

 

Please quit with the bitchy personal attacks and get this thread back on topic.

 

Thank you all.

 

[RobSS]

17 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

I also realised that to wish everyone to be the same is in fact intolerant. It is intolerant of how everyone actually is and then i realised the left is actually incredibly intolerant and that view has only deepened with the growth of political correctness, critical race theory and wokeness which i all see as agendas of the corporate socialist elites who dupe people at grassroots into following their agendas

 

 

I agree. It's wrong to force tolerance. I believe people should be able to say what they want to say but that they should be prepared to back up what they say, or to be questioned about what they believe. I first posted against political correctness back in 2007, and highlighted then how it would be used to bring about the opposite of what it was claimed it would achieved.

We should not all be forced into thinking the same, into some kind of manufactured unity. C. S. Lewis summed it up very well:

 

Even on the biological level life is not like a pool but like a tree. It does not move towards unity but away from it and the creatures grow further apart as they increase in perfection. Good, as it ripens, becomes continually more different not only from evil but from other good.

 

I do not think that all who choose wrong roads perish; but their rescue consists in being put back on the right road. A wrong sum can be put right: but only by going back till you find the error and working it afresh from that point, never by simply going on. Evil can be undone, but it cannot "develop" into good. Time does not heal it. The spell must be unwound, bit by bit, "with backward mutters of dissevering power"-or else not. It is still "either-or."

 

If we insist on keeping Hell (or even earth) we shall not see Heaven: if we accept Heaven we shall not be able to retain even the smallest and most intimate souvenirs of Hell. I believe, to be sure, that any man who reaches Heaven will find that what he abandoned (even in plucking out his right eye) was precisely nothing: that the kernel of what he was really seeking even in his most depraved wishes will be there, beyond expectation, waiting for him in "the High Countries".

 

[RobSS]

18 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

At that point noam chomsky was my hero and i believed that everyone on the planet should be brown

 

 

Could you explain in more detail how you came to the belief that everyone should be brown? Was it something that you felt should happen, something that came from within you, or was it something that Chomsky said that you identified with. or something else?

 

18 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

do you see yourself pursuing the great work and what exactly do you see that great work to be?

 

 

I mentioned that the Great Work involves using science to harness the power of the Holy Spirit, and that adepts like Albert Pike had spoken about this. In Morals and Dogma, Albert Pike wrote:

 

"There is in nature one most potent force, by means whereof a single man, who could possess himself of it, and should know how to direct it, could revolutionize and change the face of the world.

 

This force was known to the ancients. It is a universal agent, whose Supreme law is equilibrium; and whereby, if science can but learn how to control it, it will be possible to change the order of the Seasons, to produce in night the phenomena of day, to send a thought in an instant round the world, to heal or slay at a distance, to give our words universal success, and make them reverberate everywhere.

 

This agent, partially revealed by the blind guesses of the disciples of Mesmer, is percisely what the Adepts of the middle ages called the elementary matter of the great work. The Gnostics held that it composed the igneous body of the Holy Spirit; and it was adored in the secret rites of the Sabbat or the Temple, under the hieroglyphic figure of Baphomet or the hermaphroditic goat of Mendes.

 

There is a Life-principle of the World, a universal agent, wherein are two natures and a double current, of Love and Wrath. This ambient fluid penetrates everything... it is the body of the Holy Spirit, the universal agent, the Serpent devouring his own tail..."

 

("Morals and Dogma", the chapter: "Knight of the Sun or Prince Adept" [in a discussion for the 28th degree of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry], by Albert Pike, L.H. Jenkins, Inc., 1950; p.818)

 

Edited January 16, 2022 by RobSS

[Zusies]

16 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

Could you explain in more detail how you came to the belief that everyone should be brown? Was it something that you felt should happen, something that came from within you, or was it something that Chomsky said that you identified with. or something else?

 

 

I mentioned that the Great Work involves using science to harness the power of the Holy Spirit, and that adepts like Albert Pike had spoken about this. In Morals and Dogma, Albert Pike wrote:

 

"There is in nature one most potent force, by means whereof a single man, who could possess himself of it, and should know how to direct it, could revolutionize and change the face of the world.

 

This force was known to the ancients. It is a universal agent, whose Supreme law is equilibrium; and whereby, if science can but learn how to control it, it will be possible to change the order of the Seasons, to produce in night the phenomena of day, to send a thought in an instant round the world, to heal or slay at a distance, to give our words universal success, and make them reverberate everywhere.

 

This agent, partially revealed by the blind guesses of the disciples of Mesmer, is percisely what the Adepts of the middle ages called the elementary matter of the great work. The Gnostics held that it composed the igneous body of the Holy Spirit; and it was adored in the secret rites of the Sabbat or the Temple, under the hieroglyphic figure of Baphomet or the hermaphroditic goat of Mendes.

 

There is a Life-principle of the World, a universal agent, wherein are two natures and a double current, of Love and Wrath. This ambient fluid penetrates everything... it is the body of the Holy Spirit, the universal agent, the Serpent devouring his own tail..."

 

("Morals and Dogma", the chapter: "Knight of the Sun or Prince Adept" [in a discussion for the 28th degree of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry], by Albert Pike, L.H. Jenkins, Inc., 1950; p.818)

 

This post reeks of Freemasonary I view this as blatant Apolloyon worshiping.  

[RobSS]

Just now, Zusies said:

This post reeks of Freemasonary I view this as blatant Apolloyon worshiping.  

 

Yes, the quote was by Albert Pike, who's considered the father of Scottish Rite Freemasonry.

 

 

 

[Zusies]

1 minute ago, RobSS said:

 

Yes, the quote was by Albert Pike, who's considered the father of Scottish Rite Freemasonry.

 

Hello, I am aware of who Albert Pike is, not good!

 

 

1 minute ago, RobSS said:

 

Yes, the quote was by Albert Pike, who's considered the father of Scottish Rite Freemasonry.

 

 

 

 

[RobSS]

3 minutes ago, Zusies said:

Hello, I am aware of who Albert Pike is, not good!

 

 

That's why I posted the quote because it shows that Holy Spirt, and the Paraclete, is on the Fraternity's radar. They need the Holy Spirit to complete their plans, but that's a big subject and better discussed in a thread on that subject.

 

 

[Macnamara]

37 minutes ago, RobSS said:

Could you explain in more detail how you came to the belief that everyone should be brown? Was it something that you felt should happen, something that came from within you, or was it something that Chomsky said that you identified with. or something else?

 

I've spoken about it. I was reading left wing literature and was young and lacked life experience and perspective and developed what i have called the 'sabbatean gaze' which is to see the world through the eyes of the sabbatean jews and that path leads to the subjugation of all non sabbatean-jewish people

 

37 minutes ago, RobSS said:

I mentioned that the Great Work involves using science to harness the power of the Holy Spirit, and that adepts like Albert Pike had spoken about this. In Morals and Dogma, Albert Pike wrote:

 

where does he speak about using science to harness it?

 

37 minutes ago, RobSS said:

There is in nature one most potent force

 

yes he is talking about the astral fire

 

is that what you see yourself as working with rob: something beyond the physical?

Edited January 16, 2022 by Macnamara

[Macnamara]

56 minutes ago, RobSS said:

I agree. It's wrong to force tolerance.

 

no they are not forcing tolerance

 

they are being INTOLERANT. They are INTOLERANT of the existence of white people. They are INTOLERANT of the existence of individual freedom. They are INTOLERANT of free speech

 

The only tolerance that they are forcing on people is to force white people to tolerate their own replacement

[RobSS]

2 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

where does he speak about using science to harness it?

 

Albert Pike says, "if science can but learn how to control it..."

 

2 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

yes he is talking about the astral fire

 

is that what you see yourself as working with rob: something beyond the physical?

 

 

Of course I'm working towards the spiritual reality, but not in collaboration with transhumanism.

 

 

[RobSS]

3 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

no they are not forcing tolerance

 

they are being INTOLERANT. They are INTOLERANT of the existence of white people. They are INTOLERANT of the existence of individual freedom. They are INTOLERANT of free speech

 

The only tolerance that they are forcing on people is to force white people to tolerate their own replacement

 

They are being intolerant of anyone who objects to their agenda, not just white people. There are many white people who are even part of the transhumanist agenda.

 

[Macnamara]

Just now, RobSS said:

 

Albert Pike says, "if science can but learn how to control it..."

 

'science' as in taking a scientific approach towards manipulating the astral fire such as crowley advocated or 'science' as in using scientific technology and understanding?

 

Just now, RobSS said:

Of course I'm working towards the spiritual reality, but not in collaboration with transhumanism

 

so you are not just seeking to redeem yourself but all of humanity?

 

What does that look like in your vision of the future?

[Macnamara]

1 minute ago, RobSS said:

They are being intolerant of anyone who objects to their agenda, not just white people. There are many white people who are even part of the transhumanist agenda.

 

there are some white dupes yes who cannot see above their compartment of the compartmentalised secret society network

[RobSS]

3 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

'science' as in taking a scientific approach towards manipulating the astral fire such as crowley advocated or 'science' as in using scientific technology and understanding?

 

In Pike's day, it would've been the former, but in more modern times, the latter.

 

3 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

so you are not just seeking to redeem yourself but all of humanity?

 

I'm seeking to heal. We all need healing. That's what Jesus Christ promised as a Redeemer.

 

3 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

What does that look like in your vision of the future?

 

 

That's a very open question. I gave an indication of what may happen in the short to medium term in this post :

 

https://forum.davidicke.com/index.php?/topic/24371-what-do-you-think-will-happen-to-the-vaxxed/&do=findComment&comment=375093

 

Regarding the longer term future, Isaiah painted this picture in chapter 16 verses 21-25:

 

"They will build houses and dwell in them;
they will plant vineyards and eat their fruit.

No longer will they build houses and others live in them,
or plant and others eat.
For as the days of a tree,
so will be the days of my people;
my chosen ones will long enjoy
the work of their hands.

 

They will not labor in vain,
nor will they bear children doomed to misfortune;
for they will be a people blessed by the Lord,
they and their descendants with them.

 

Before they call I will answer;
while they are still speaking I will hear.
The wolf and the lamb will feed together,
and the lion will eat straw like the ox,
and dust will be the serpent’s food.
They will neither harm nor destroy
on all my holy mountain."

[Zusies]

19 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

Albert Pike says, "if science can but learn how to control it..."

 

 

Of course I'm working towards the spiritual reality, but not in collaboration with transhumanism.

 

 

Good luck girl.

[Macnamara]

Just now, RobSS said:

my chosen ones will long enjoy

the work of their hands.

 

who are your chosen ones Rob?

[RobSS]

15 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

there are some white dupes yes who cannot see above their compartment of the compartmentalised secret society network

 

What colour do you think the top adepts are, of the transhumanist agenda?

 

 

[RobSS]

1 minute ago, Zusies said:

Good luck girl.

 

Not sure why you say "girl". Everyone's going to be tested against the transhumanist agenda, and many already are, so you'll need it too and I wish you all the best.

 

 

[Macnamara]

1 minute ago, RobSS said:

What colour do you think the top adepts are, of the transhumanist agenda?

 

sabbatean-jews

[RobSS]

2 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

who are your chosen ones Rob?

 

I don't do any choosing. God is the one who choses in the context of those verses. Jesus Christ also spoke of a choosing, when he gave the parable of separating the wheat from the weeds.