Is there an agenda to reduce the White European population?

[skitzorat]

10 minutes ago, RobSS said:

I gave the analogy of the British. The British, as a group, are not responsible for the Iraq war,

Forgot to add reply to that.

 

Ask Bibi Netanyahu how he felt about the UK and US sending their youth into Iraq to die for the Greater Israel Project.

You are a fool if you think Blair and Bush weren't puppets of zion and playing their role in the Protocols.

You're hero David Icke often speaks about Netanyahu's calls for a war on terror, pre 9/11

 

Although the doctrine of War on Terror was announced by G.W. Bush following the events of 9/11, the real architect of that doctrine is Benjamin Netanyahu. While most people think that Netanyahu is an Israeli politician, he is also an author of a few books on terrorism and is the real father of the War on Terror doctrine.One of his early works on terrorism International Terrorism: Challenge and Response dates back to 1979. His major definitive work Fighting Terrorism: How Democracies Can Defeat Domestic and International Terrorism was published in 1995. He has also been promoting his War on Terror doctrine in his speeches. One such speech was delivered at the Jewish Agency Assembly Plenary meetings held in Israel on 24th June 2001. The main points of that speech are:

1. The Palestinians are to blame for the conflict in the Middle East, and specifically Yasser Arafat.
2. It is legitimate for established states to engage in wars, because the societies are imperfect.
3. Palestinians are not waging a legitimate war (like established states using regular armies) and are terrorists.
4. The Palestinian terrorists deliberately attack civilians.
5. The Israelis are responding in self-defense.
6. When the Israelis respond, they respond against combatants.
7. Arafat and the Palestinian Authority are committed to the destruction of the State of Israel.
8. Arafat and the Palestinian Authority are using the illegitimate and criminal means of terrorism.
9. The Palestinian are wrong and the Israelis are right.
10. Terrorism invariably comes from terrorist regimes.
11. Terror is useful, only if the cost of waging terrorism, the cost of that regime is lower than the benefits of waging terrorism.
12. To stop terrorism, one must make the terrorist regime pay very very heavily.
13. The root core of the Middle East conflict is the existential opposition by a great many in the Arab world still, and certainly by the Palestinian leadership to Israel's very existence.
14. The first way of ensuring Israel's existence is that the Arabs simply understand that Israel is so powerful, so permanent, so unconquerable in every way that they will simply abandon by the force of the inertia of Israel's permanence all opposition to Israel.
15. The second way [of ensuring Israel's existence] is for the forces of democratization get to the Arab regimes.
16. Using propaganda techniques, like broadcasting American television serials (which Netanyahu sees as subversive material) will ultimately bring down regimes like the Ayatola regime and the Khoumeni regime in Iran.
17. In the 21st century, you cannot achieve a military victory unless you achieve a political victory to accompany it; and you cannot achieve a political victory unless you achieve a victory in public opinion; and you cannot achieve a victory in public opinion unless you persuade that public that your cause is just.
18. It doesn't make any difference if you are on the side of the angels or on the side of the devil. Anyone fighting in the international arena for public opinion must argue the justice of his cause. Hitler argued for the justice of his cause and Stalin argued for the justice of his cause. They all had propaganda machines. Whether you are right or you are wrong you must argue the justice of your cause.

Although this speech was delivered some two months before the events of 9/11, one can see in it all the main points advanced by G.W. Bush in his speeches on War on Terror, which followed the 9/11. But at the time of the delivery of the Netanyahu speech, the interest in the Netanyahu “War on Terror” doctrine was limited to a narrow circle of professional Greater Israel Zionists and Middle East experts. It was also obvious that the Netanyahu doctrine could not be implemented by Israel alone without involving into it the full military and financial might of the USA. At the time such involvement seemed an unlikely prospect which could only be achieved through some kind of miracle.

But this “miracle” did not take long to happen.

http://www.shamsali.org/taj/origwat.html

 

And the Council of Foreign Relations (I think?) speaking of a "need for a new Pearl Harbour" - PRIOR to 9/11.

 

I do recall millions of Brits protesting against the war though - in an absolute defiant collective, kinda opposite to the thousands of collective anti-white tweets from the jewsh bluechecks I see though, if you want to make that analogy.

 

13 minutes ago, RobSS said:

I've never complained about you documenting Jewish behaviour where you have specific evidence.

Yes you have! That's been your deal throughout this. FFS.

 

14 minutes ago, RobSS said:

You just want to find a scapegoat for everything that you personally perceive as a problem.

I just listed some examples of why there IS a PROBLEM and perhaps why it's such a problem.

It's not my "perception" - if you failed to gather this problem throughout your repeated nose-poking in this thread and being hit with continued documentation from many contributors, you DO have a comprehension problem or are deliberately being obtuse.

 

I'm not scapegoating the jews - they just appear to be opening the gates in exactly the same way they did to Visigothic Christian Hispania; opening the literal gates to cities to the Umayyad Muslims and Moorish invaders under their general Tariq ibn Ziyad (Gibraltar). 

I blame the hordes of hostile foreigners for flooding into Europa by their own will and the white liberal retards who welcome them with kisses and roses just as equally.

21 minutes ago, RobSS said:

You misrepresent viewpoints and just waste you're time wining long posts to make it appear that you're refuting something, but in reality, you're refuting nothing.

My viewpoints are not misrepresented. I make sure they're clear and well documented and sourced.

I haven't refuted anything - that's been your schtick - burden of proof is still on you.

 

18 minutes ago, RobSS said:

Not all Jews are interested in or venerate the Star of David!

It's a sarcastic MEME! It didn't need to be rebutted with such sincerity. lol

 

Clearly sarcasm, any form of wit or twist, basic comprehension of paragraphs and understanding of how debates/arguments are meant to flow online go right over your head.

LOL not only "the Left can't meme" but Leftoids don't understand them either.

 

Try harder next time.

 

But it is somewhat true, the Star of David is a more recent symbol to be associated with Jewry, gaining far more prevalence since the start of the Zionist movement.

It's the minora that's more their ancient universal symbol.

 

But again speaking with such knowing:  "Not all jews interested in Star of David" - speaking as if you know a heap of jews that don't feel some attachment to it!

Just as you were speaking like you know "all these non-kosher jews that would eat bacon even if secular" or "many jews converting to Christianity"

 

How many jewish people do you actually know to make such claims and speak for them with such authority?

 

That was rhetorical btw.

 

I'm sick of the jews *not all jews* just talking about them and their supremacist religion.

 

[FVCK BILLY G4TES]

7 hours ago, skitzorat said:

Not all jews.

Not all blacks.

Not all muslims.

Not all immigrants.

Not all minorities.

Not all gays.

Not all trannys.

Not all.

Not all.

 

Why the hell does *NOT ALL* have to be spelled out by the letter and added as a stock standard proviso to any and all potentially incendiary categorization of a *insert protected group* to some people?!

 

I mean FFS, when I feel it's necessary, I do! And I did!

PS. Bet you can't find me one secular/liberal/non-religious jew that loves a good non-kosher bacon sandwich!

 

I note however no refutations with evidences and explanations as to why to any of my points aren't valid as they stand though, as usual. 

Just the *not all* or *David Icke quote* or *whataboutism* standard reply to anything not agreed with, usually preceded by "I don't agree"

 

"My world view is right and I will argue your point but not back it up with details as to why I don't agree or how I reached a different conclusion or why the conclusion you reached is wrong, but I'm right."

 

One thing I've noticed across your contributions is a theme where you're very fast to counter or *not agree* with someone elses world view/post, provide no data or back up your statements outside joe-normie talking points, David Icke or Bible reference, and yet when showered with endless amounts of really good info provided by many, many others countered to your talking points that could open your mind to the different conspiratorial aspects (which this forum is about), still stay stuck in your normie world view and turn around at the end and say "I don't agree."

I sometimes wonder what you want to gain from these pages by holding onto your worldview so tight, especially on topics such as this thread which is so obviously antithetical to it.

It's quite amazing.

*insert racism* 

There’s a name for what you’re talking about: the no true scotsman fallacy…

 

Funny how someone with SS in their name is trying to paint people on here as racist when all anyone wants is freedom from a belief system that controls the planet and calls for the death of everyone who doesn’t go along with it.

 

Shouldn’t have to explain anything to people in 2022, if they don’t get it then whatever, stay blind.

[Truthspoon]

 

Just want to repost this.... The way the egregious psycho, 'Destiny' who laughs about child grooming, attempts to refute the facts and seems to have no emotional engagement with the reality Mark describes reminds me of Rob...   It's all about 'them' and they will twist and bend reality itself so they can still be right and virtuous.

 

Edited January 13, 2022 by Truthspoon

[skitzorat]

 

2 hours ago, FVCK BILLY G4TES said:

There’s a name for what you’re talking about: the no true scotsman fallacy…

Wow!

 

 

"ad hoc rescue"

 

I'd never heard of this before but it describes his modus operandi across all these threads, all of the time,  to a fvcking T.

Brilliant! You learn something new everyday. Cheers

Edited January 13, 2022 by skitzorat

[FVCK BILLY G4TES]

2 hours ago, skitzorat said:

 

I'd never heard of this before but it describes his modus operandi across all these threads, all of the time,  to a fvcking T.

It’s called the school of hasbara and it’s the games they play.

 

He could just be a fucking moron but when lunatics are using deceptive tactics they are either in the JIDF or they have an agenda at least.

 

The moment he said time portals is when I stopped listening to be honest lmao

[RobSS]

8 hours ago, skitzorat said:

Forgot to add reply to that.

 

Ask Bibi Netanyahu how he felt about the UK and US sending their youth into Iraq to die for the Greater Israel Project.

You are a fool if you think Blair and Bush weren't puppets of zion and playing their role in the Protocols.

 

Where have I said that Blair and Bush weren't hand in glove with Zionism. This is another example of where you invent a straw man argument so you can appear to be refuting things, when in reality, you're refuting nothing.

 

8 hours ago, skitzorat said:

 

Although the doctrine of War on Terror was announced by G.W. Bush following the events of 9/11, the real architect of that doctrine is Benjamin Netanyahu. While most people think that Netanyahu is an Israeli politician, he is also an author of a few books on terrorism and is the real father of the War on Terror doctrine.

 

I wouldn't disagree with tha, so you spent God knows how many hours on your post and you wasted your time! LOL

 

All because you misrepresent viewpoints so you can appear to be refuting something, when in reality, you're refuting nothing. LOL

 

8 hours ago, skitzorat said:

I do recall millions of Brits protesting against the war though - in an absolute defiant collective, kinda opposite to the thousands of collective anti-white tweets from the jewsh bluechecks I see though, if you want to make that analogy.

 

 

There are many Jews that also protest against Zionism.

 

8 hours ago, skitzorat said:

Rob wrote:

I've never complained about you documenting Jewish behaviour where you have specific evidence.

 

skitzorat wrote:

Yes you have! That's been your deal throughout this. FFS.

 

Rubbish. If you want to post facts about Zionism, fine because Zionism is obviously part of the NWO agenda and I knew that even before you were in panpipes, and before you had a job working for your Zionist bankers!

 

8 hours ago, skitzorat said:

I just listed some examples of why there IS a PROBLEM and perhaps why it's such a problem.

 

Thank you, but you wasted all your time on stuff that I already know and stuff I already agree with.

 

8 hours ago, skitzorat said:

It's not my "perception" - if you failed to gather this problem throughout your repeated nose-poking in this thread and being hit with continued documentation from many contributors, you DO have a comprehension problem or are deliberately being obtuse.

 

No, it's you that has comprehension problem! LOL

 

8 hours ago, skitzorat said:

I'm not scapegoating the jews - they just appear to be opening the gates in exactly the same way they did to Visigothic Christian Hispania; opening the literal gates to cities to the Umayyad Muslims and Moorish invaders under their general Tariq ibn Ziyad (Gibraltar). 

 

You are scapegoating the Jews. You're blaming all Jews for things they don't all have anything to do with. What you have is a kind of phobia. Some people have an irrational phobia and fear of open spaces, and others have an irrational phobia and fear of light. You have an irrational phobia and fear of Jews. I realised this last night, and there's probably nothing I can say to do anything about your phobia, but most people don't suffer form that.

 

8 hours ago, skitzorat said:

I blame the hordes of hostile foreigners for flooding into Europa by their own will and the white liberal retards who welcome them with kisses and roses just as equally.

 

I disagree with here too. It's pointless blaming the immigrants. It's a political problem and the fault of politicians.

 

8 hours ago, skitzorat said:

My viewpoints are not misrepresented. I make sure they're clear and well documented and sourced.

 

You waste a lot of your time fighting the blackness in your own soul. You misrepresent my viewpoints and just waste you're time wining long posts to make it appear that you're refuting something, but in reality, you're refuting nothing. No problem, at least my replies don't need to be as tediously long!

 

8 hours ago, skitzorat said:

 

But it is somewhat true, the Star of David is a more recent symbol to be associated with Jewry, gaining far more prevalence since the start of the Zionist movement.

It's the minora that's more their ancient universal symbol.

 

 

Actually, the Star of David is condemned in the Old Testament as being the star of Saturn.

 

8 hours ago, skitzorat said:

 

But again speaking with such knowing:  "Not all jews interested in Star of David" - speaking as if you know a heap of jews that don't feel some attachment to it!

 

It's true, though, and I know that to be a fact from personal experience of knowing secular Jews.

 

8 hours ago, skitzorat said:

Just as you were speaking like you know "all these non-kosher jews that would eat bacon even if secular" or "many jews converting to Christianity"

 

This trivial stuff, and just feeds your phobia that you like to make a name for yourself with. Who cares if anyone eats this that or the other? LOL Hitler was a vegetarian, so what! LOL More little storms in your teacup!

 

8 hours ago, skitzorat said:

 

How many jewish people do you actually know to make such claims and speak for them with such authority?

 

Quite a lot. A lot of people I work with in classical music came form Jewish backgrounds and they have nothing to do with the culture anuymore.

 

8 hours ago, skitzorat said:

 

I'm sick of the jews *not all jews* just talking about them and their supremacist religion.

 

 

It's only three words, makes all the difference!

 

Have a good day.

 

[RobSS]

6 hours ago, FVCK BILLY G4TES said:

 

Funny how someone with SS in their name is trying to paint people on here as racist

 

What a bizarre and ridiculous comment! LOL

 

6 hours ago, FVCK BILLY G4TES said:

 

when all anyone wants is freedom from a belief system that controls the planet and calls for the death of everyone who doesn’t go along with it.

 

 

Yes, we all want freedom from Zionism, but when mindless comments are made trying to tackle the problem, you prevent any progress towards that freedom from Zionism and the cabal that is trying to destroy our world.

 

6 hours ago, FVCK BILLY G4TES said:

 

Shouldn’t have to explain anything to people in 2022, if they don’t get it then whatever, stay blind.

 

 

What have you explained? You haven't explained fuck all!

 

[RobSS]

3 hours ago, skitzorat said:

 

Wow!

 

 

"ad hoc rescue"

 

I'd never heard of this before but it describes his modus operandi across all these threads, all of the time,  to a fvcking T.

Brilliant! You learn something new everyday. Cheers

 

How does that translate into the modus operandi of this thread and manifest itself in anything that you disagree with? For example, when David Icke says he doesn't blame all Jews, how is that a "no true Scotsman" argument?

 

 

 

 

[Guest Gone Fishing...]

12 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

Where have I said that Blair and Bush weren't hand in glove with Zionism. This is another example of where you invent a straw man argument so you can appear to be refuting things, when in reality, you're refuting nothing.

 

 

I wouldn't disagree with tha, so you spent God knows how many hours on your post and you wasted your time! LOL

 

All because you misrepresent viewpoints so you can appear to be refuting something, when in reality, you're refuting nothing. LOL

 

 

There are many Jews that also protest against Zionism.

 

 

Rubbish. If you want to post facts about Zionism, fine because Zionism is obviously part of the NWO agenda and I knew that even before you were in panpipes, and before you had a job working for your Zionist bankers!

 

 

Thank you, but you wasted all your time on stuff that I already know and stuff I already agree with.

 

 

No, it's you that has comprehension problem! LOL

 

 

You are scapegoating the Jews. You're blaming all Jews for things they don't all have anything to do with. What you have is a kind of phobia. Some people have an irrational phobia and fear of open spaces, and others have an irrational phobia and fear of light. You have an irrational phobia and fear of Jews. I realised this last night, and there's probably nothing I can say to do anything about your phobia, but most people don't suffer form that.

 

 

I disagree with here too. It's pointless blaming the immigrants. It's a political problem and the fault of politicians.

 

 

You waste a lot of your time fighting the blackness in your own soul. You misrepresent my viewpoints and just waste you're time wining long posts to make it appear that you're refuting something, but in reality, you're refuting nothing. No problem, at least my replies don't need to be as tediously long!

 

 

Actually, the Star of David is condemned in the Old Testament as being the star of Saturn.

 

 

It's true, though, and I know that to be a fact from personal experience of knowing secular Jews.

 

 

This trivial stuff, and just feeds your phobia that you like to make a name for yourself with. Who cares if anyone eats this that or the other? LOL Hitler was a vegetarian, so what! LOL More little storms in your teacup!

 

 

Quite a lot. A lot of people I work with in classical music came form Jewish backgrounds and they have nothing to do with the culture anuymore.

 

 

It's only three words, makes all the difference!

 

Have a good day.

 

 

"

You waste a lot of your time fighting the blackness in your own soul. You misrepresent my viewpoints and just waste you're time wining long posts to make it appear that you're refuting something, but in reality, you're refuting nothing. No problem, at least my replies don't need to be as tediously long! " 

 

POT - KETTLE - BLACK 

 

 

 

[Guest Gone Fishing...]

1 minute ago, RobSS said:

 

How does that translate into the modus operandi of this thread and manifest itself in anything that you disagree with? For example, when David Icke says he doesn't blame all Jews, how is that a "no true Scotsman" argument?

 

 

 

 

 

David Icke says

David Icke says

David Icke says

David Icke says

David Icke says.. 

 

[RobSS]

5 hours ago, Truthspoon said:

 

Just want to repost this.... The way the egregious psycho, 'Destiny' who laughs about child grooming, attempts to refute the facts and seems to have no emotional engagement with the reality Mark describes reminds me of Rob... 

 

Where have I laughed about child grooming? A lot of white people have also engaged in grooming children. It's not a racial problem. It's a criminal problem.

 

Anyhow, Jayda Fransen says that Mark Collett is an incel and an arsehole. She also said Patriotic Alternative, founded by Mark Collett, is "imploding, it is falling apart", she said, "it is completely finished... it's on the road to nothing".

 

Mark Collett was also exposed on video blatantly lying, so how you can say he's a truth giver makes the mind boggle!

 

[Guest Gone Fishing...]

2 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

Where have I laughed about child grooming? A lot of white people have also engaged in grooming children. It's not a racial problem. It's a criminal problem.

 

Anyhow, Jayda Fransen says that Mark Collett is an incel and an arsehole. She also said Patriotic Alternative, founded by Mark Collett, is "imploding, it is falling apart", she said, "it is completely finished... it's on the road to nothing".

 

Mark Collett was also exposed on video blatantly lying, so how you can say he's a truth giver makes the mind boggle!

 

 

I think this is the bit TS is referring to :

 

".. attempts to refute the facts and seems to have no emotional engagement with the reality .." 

[RobSS]

5 minutes ago, Basket Case said:

 

"

You waste a lot of your time fighting the blackness in your own soul. You misrepresent my viewpoints and just waste you're time wining long posts to make it appear that you're refuting something, but in reality, you're refuting nothing. No problem, at least my replies don't need to be as tediously long! " 

 

POT - KETTLE - BLACK 

 

 

 

 

What I meant by that was he is fighting his own shadows. I don't see the point in blaming immigrants. The problem is political and lies with politicians, but some people take out their frustrations in the wrong way, instead of looking within and addressing things more rationally.

 

 

[RobSS]

Just now, Basket Case said:

 

I think this is the bit TS is referring to :

 

".. attempts to refute the facts and seems to have no emotional engagement with the reality .." 

 

But there wasn't any substance to what he wrote. Just empty claims without any examples to back up what he says.

 

 

[Guest Gone Fishing...]

Just now, RobSS said:

. I don't see the point in blaming immigrants

 

You've made this perfectly clear about a thousand times already.. 

BC 

[Guest Gone Fishing...]

3 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

What I meant by that was he is fighting his own shadows. I don't see the point in blaming immigrants. The problem is political and lies with politicians, but some people take out their frustrations in the wrong way, instead of looking within and addressing things more rationally.

 

 

 

POT - KETTLE - BLACK 

 

I'm assuming you are familiar with this term..? 

BC 

[RobSS]

1 minute ago, Basket Case said:

 

You've made this perfectly clear about a thousand times already.. 

BC 

 

And they have blamed Jews thousands of times already.

 

But skitzorat thought I was a pro-Zionist. So at least some of this discussion has been useful and some misconceptions have been cleared up!

 

Rob

[RobSS]

1 minute ago, Basket Case said:

 

POT - KETTLE - BLACK 

 

I'm assuming you are familiar with this term..? 

BC 

 

I am but you haven't given anything to back up your opinion, so obviously, I disagree unless you can show otherwise..

 

 

[Guest Gone Fishing...]

2 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

I am but you haven't given anything to back up your opinion, so obviously, I disagree unless you can show otherwise..

 

 

 

 

".. some people take out their frustrations in the wrong way, instead of looking within and addressing things more rationally." 

 

POT - KETTLE - BLACK 

[RobSS]

Just now, Basket Case said:

 

 

".. some people take out their frustrations in the wrong way, instead of looking within and addressing things more rationally." 

 

POT - KETTLE - BLACK 

 

Okay, but I did explain why I said that, but you are not explaining why you are saying that, so unless you can explain why you think that, I disagree.

 

 

[Guest Gone Fishing...]

2 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

Okay, but I did explain why I said that, but you are not explaining why you are saying that, so unless you can explain why you think that, I disagree.

 

 

 

I am not expecting you to agree. 

I'm making a statement about my observations and views on your contributions across the forum .. 

BC 

[RobSS]

Just now, Basket Case said:

 

I am not expecting you to agree. 

I'm making a statement about my observations and views on your contributions across the forum .. 

BC 

 

To be very honest, we all have shadows so you are calling the kettle black too, but I did give reasons for what I wrote,
 

[Guest Gone Fishing...]

13 minutes ago, Basket Case said:

 

 

".. some people take out their frustrations in the wrong way, instead of looking within and addressing things more rationally." 

 

POT - KETTLE - BLACK 

 

7 minutes ago, Basket Case said:

 

I am not expecting you to agree. 

I'm making a statement about my observations and views on your contributions across the forum .. 

BC 

 

3 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

To be very honest, we all have shadows so you are calling the kettle black too, but I did give reasons for what I wrote,
 

 

There you go.. 

1 + 1 + 1 = 3

BC 

[RobSS]

1 minute ago, Basket Case said:

 

There you go.. 

1 + 1 + 1 = 3

BC 

 

I did give reasons for saying what i said. You haven't given any reasoning, so I don't know what it is you're exactly talking about.

 

 

[Guest Gone Fishing...]

2 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

I did give reasons for saying what i said. You haven't given any reasoning, so I don't know what it is you're exactly talking about.

 

 

 

Your choice to not comprehend what I'm clearly saying.. 

BC