RobSS Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Just now, Firebird said: Human races are as real as different dog breeds. They're not social constructs. Different breeds/ races have different characteristics, advantages and disadvantages. Races are largely a hive mind. If you want to understand why race is a concept, you need to study the man outside of the social construct, which is what artists do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Firebird said: Human races are as real as different dog breeds. They're not social constructs. Different breeds/ races have different characteristics, advantages and disadvantages. no pigmys are exactly the same as the dutch...exactly the same. To say otherwise is bigoted Edited January 6, 2022 by Macnamara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotGirl Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Firebird said: Human races are as real as different dog breeds. They're not social constructs. Different breeds/ races have different characteristics, advantages and disadvantages. Comparing humans to dogs and be proud of it. Only a pagan could do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Just now, Macnamara said: i don't think you are as colour blind as you like to tell yourself Really, I'd beg to differ! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firebird Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, PatriotGirl said: Whatever that was, it was not what we know as Western Civilization. have you ever heard of "Saturnalia". That's what you "Pagan civilization" was? For starters, Greece and Rome will tell you otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firebird Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, RobSS said: Races are largely a hive mind. If you want to understand why race is a concept, you need to study the man outside of the social construct, which is what artists do. And I'm sure you are a fantastic artist, RobSS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Macnamara said: no pigmys are exactly the same as the dutch...exactly the same. To say otherwise is bigoted exactly the same...look you can't tell them apart: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Just now, Firebird said: And I'm sure you are a fantastic artist, RobSS. I try not to be the puppet of the system! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firebird Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, PatriotGirl said: Comparing humans to dogs and be proud of it. Only a pagan could do that. It seems you don't want to have a friendly discussion but just look for enemies. Not only offended by the existence of non-Christian civilizations in Europe, but now also offended by animals. You are an angry one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Just now, Macnamara said: exactly the same...look you can't tell them apart: The one in the middle looks a bit gormless, and hollow eyes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotGirl Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Firebird said: For starters, Greece and Rome will tell you otherwise. This is the second time I have to remind you I'm the one who mentioned Greece as a pillar of western civilization. Pagan Rome not so much. I have very little patience for circular reasoning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firebird Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, RobSS said: I try not to be the puppet of the system! I know, right? You are just so amazing..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotGirl Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Macnamara said: exactly the same...look you can't tell them apart: They're all equal in the eyes of God Edited January 6, 2022 by PatriotGirl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Just now, Firebird said: I know, right? You are just so amazing..... I do my best, but I leave it to others to decide how well I do an artist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firebird Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 1 minute ago, PatriotGirl said: But they're all equal in the eyes of God I doubt the writers of the bible were even aware of the existence of these pigmys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, RobSS said: The one in the middle looks a bit gormless, and hollow eyes... i can't tell they all look identical to me i'm sure you can't see any difference either as you are completely colour blind Being a singer i bet you can't tell a black singer apart from a white singer either: colour deafness. Therefore there is no such things as 'black music' right rob? Humans all exactly the same.....its all just in your imagination that anyone is different in anyway Edited January 6, 2022 by Macnamara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotGirl Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, Firebird said: It seems you don't want to have a friendly discussion but just look for enemies. Not only offended by the existence of non-Christian civilizations in Europe, but now also offended by animals. You are an angry one. More circular reasoning and strawman arguments. I'm not offended at all. I'm just stating the fact you're showing your pagan believes by comparing yourself to a dog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Just now, Macnamara said: i can't tell they all look identical to me i'm sure you can't see any difference either as you are completely colour blind Being a singer i bet you can't tell a black singer apart from a white singer either: colour deafness Humans all exactly the same.....its all just in your imagination that anyone is different in anyway I wasn't being serious, just mocking the idea that the white man is a superior being. God isn't interested in placing one skin colour above another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, Macnamara said: Being a singer i bet you can't tell a black singer apart from a white singer either: colour deafness Humans all exactly the same.....its all just in your imagination that anyone is different in anyway Skin colour doesn't determine how good a singer is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skitzorat Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, PatriotGirl said: Christianity and Greek Philosophy are the some pillars of western civilization 4 minutes ago, PatriotGirl said: not race. I have not referred to "race" in any of my posts. It's such a problematic word that I deliberately avoid it. Too many people use it as their weak-minded, go-to weapon of choice to feign tears about the world with; mostly radical leftists in current times, but in much the same way it was used by eugenicists in the past. However, as I'm sure you know, Iberians are very different to Northern Europeans who are again different Celts who are again different from Slaves, but they're all European. Europeans have the most variation genes, hence being a People's of such diverse Colour. If people want to call that a "race" like Han Chinese, so be it. I do mention Europa's Peoples, Cultures and Histories (all plural) quite a bit in my posts, for such a reason. 13 minutes ago, PatriotGirl said: Pre-Christian Europeans where human child sacrificing cannibals. There is evidence that many, if not most, pre-modern human cultures all across the globe practiced some form of human sacrifice at some point or another. Many still do, even after they were introduced to the concept of Jesus Christ. I'd like to see evidence of this widespread cannibalism you speak of though; I'm learned in Classics and I don't recall the Spartans or Etruscans or even the Romans ever eating each other. I doubt the Goths were into it either, even prior to contact with the Mediterranean world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotGirl Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, Macnamara said: i can't tell they all look identical to me i'm sure you can't see any difference either as you are completely colour blind Being a singer i bet you can't tell a black singer apart from a white singer either: colour deafness. Therefore there is no such things as 'black music' right rob? Humans all exactly the same.....its all just in your imagination that anyone is different in anyway I think your both wrong. Just like the antisemites and the philosemites. Any racial and ethnic identity politics is a waste of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firebird Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 1 minute ago, PatriotGirl said: More circular reasoning and strawman arguments. I'm not offended at all. I'm just stating the fact you're showing your pagan believes by comparing yourself to a dog. I was hoping the example would help you out. There's different dog breeds but they can still interbreed. Humans are similar. If ''race'' is a so called 'social construct' than so is a ''breed''. You can look away at the differences all you like but it has no place in biology and in reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, RobSS said: I wasn't being serious, just mocking the idea that the white man is a superior being. no one said he was superior 6 minutes ago, RobSS said: God isn't interested in placing one skin colour above another. nature covers all of its bases in their environment the pigmies are going to be the supreme survivors. However they might not be as successful at basketball should we pretend that is not the case to ease our minds? Or should we celebrate the diversity that exists across the planet and marvel at natures genius? Edited January 6, 2022 by Macnamara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, PatriotGirl said: I think your both wrong. Just like the antisemites and the philosemites. Any racial and ethnic identity politics is a waste of time. will you feel the same way when your child comes home from school crying having been bullied for being white? you think that isn't the future that the cabal want for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotGirl Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Firebird said: I was hoping the example would help you out. There's different dog breeds but they can still interbreed. Humans are similar. If ''race'' is a so called 'social construct' than so is a ''breed''. You can look away at the differences all you like but it has no place in biology and in reality. You have a pagan materialistic worldview that reduces humans to mere animals. This is exactly my problem with paganism. You have no soul. In that regard you're no different from the jews who have a materialistic worldview and don't believe is a afterlife either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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