Truthspoon Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 (edited) 28 minutes ago, FVCK BILLY G4TES said: You have balls by calling me a jew then basically throwing out the most jewish argument going ”They don’t have the covenant” blah blah blah You’re one step down from saying “we’re the real jews” Its all bollocks and the sooner people get out the hamster wheel the better What's bollocks? Spirituality? Loving your fellow man.... trying to be a good person.... trying to transcend this reality in hope of a better one.... Like I said, you don't have the answers.. I know you think you do. But I know you don't. You have only nihilism and despair wrought from confusion. You flim flam about European paganism, which you know nothing about anyway....so what do you know? I see clearly. There is much to this world and this reality that you have failed to observe..... You only have a very small part of the puzzle and as such, you cannot see the full picture. Edited December 12, 2021 by Truthspoon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 (edited) It's not enough Billy Bob to be 'the guy who just hates Jews'. If that's all there is to you then you've missed out on all the possibilities to learn something useful while you're here.... There's a much bigger story here.... and you're missing out on it all. Edited December 12, 2021 by Truthspoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FVCK BILLY G4TES Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Truthspoon said: It's not enough Billy Bob to be 'the guy who just hates Jews'. If that's all there is to you then you've basically fucked your life up and missed out on all the possibilities to learn something useful while you're here.... There's a much bigger story here.... and you're missing out on it all. Strawman, I don’t hate jews as I said before I don’t hate anyone, it’s the religious framework that’s the problem Sure I am pal, when Jesus’ robes will be stained red with the blood of edom (us) we will see then won’t we Who is this coming from Edom, from Bozrah, with his garments stained crimson? Who is this, robed in splendor, striding forward in the greatness of his strength? “It is I, proclaiming victory, mighty to save.” Why are your garments red, like those of one treading the winepress? I have trodden the winepress alone; from the nations no one was with me. I trampled them in my anger and trod them down in my wrath; their blood spattered my garments, and I stained all my clothing. it was for me the day of vengeance; the year for me to redeem had come I looked, but there was no one to help, I was appalled that no one gave support; so my own arm achieved salvation for me, and my own wrath sustained me. I trampled the nations in my anger; in my wrath I made them drunk and poured their blood on the ground. Isaiah 63 Etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 I'm not here to defend the Old Testament. Jesus' ministry was to moderate the Old Testament and give a new vision of God... "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone'. It's obvious but you seem to have missed the obvious... So too with Isiah's description of the wine-press. Jesus himself become the grape and the true-vine... and it is his blood which is spilled. “I am the true vine, and my Father is the vinedresser. . I am the vine, you are the branches” (15:1,5). https://www.rlhymersjr.com/Online_Sermons/2009/040409PM_TheWinepress.html I'm not really here to teach you the basics of Jesus and his ministry on Earth and the obvious way he sought to moderate the old law..... If you haven't figured out these basics by now....... there's little hope for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FVCK BILLY G4TES Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, Truthspoon said: I'm not here to defend the Old Testament. Jesus' ministry was to moderate the Old Testament and give a new vision of God... "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone'. It's obvious but you seem to have missed the obvious... So too with Isiah's description of the wine-press. Jesus himself become the grape and the true-vine... and it is his blood which is spilled. “I am the true vine, and my Father is the vinedresser. . I am the vine, you are the branches” (15:1,5). https://www.rlhymersjr.com/Online_Sermons/2009/040409PM_TheWinepress.html I'm not really here to teach you the basics of Jesus and his ministry on Earth and the obvious way he sought to moderate the old law..... If you haven't figured out these basics by now....... there's little hope for you. Again its the whole idea that “we have the covenant now” Moderating the old testament into the new and making it the “religion for the other side” is exactly what people like St peter did A religion for the gentiles who can still worship the god of Israel without having to convert to judaism The people who really pushed Christianity to the forefront was Paul the Pharisee and St. Peter the jew, some people refer to Christianity as Paulianity due to this I have only one question for you truthspoon, do you worship the god of Israel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, FVCK BILLY G4TES said: Again its the whole idea that “we have the covenant now” Moderating the old testament into the new and making it the “religion for the other side” is exactly what people like St peter did A religion for the gentiles who can still worship the god of Israel without having to convert to judaism The people who really pushed Christianity to the forefront was Paul the Pharisee and St. Peter the jew, some people refer to Christianity as Paulianity due to this I have only one question for you truthspoon, do you worship the god of Israel? These are all your impositions... not mine..... You do not get to dictate the terms of my spiritual reality. Anyway...please, let's move the focus away from me and my beliefs and have a look at what you believe.... What do you think happens when you die? Do you have an immortal soul? Do good people go to a different place to identifiably evil people? Instead of being negative and constantly attacking why don't you try to produce something positive about the spiritual possibilities? Of course if you don't believe in them....then that's fine... but that also means continuing a conversation like this would be pointless since I am not only trying to 'defend' Jesus but a whole couple of millennia of metaphysical and spiritual experience.... and that would need a whole thread to itself... So...play fair.... You know, or at least think you know what I believe. What do you believe? REMEMBER...do not speak in terms of NEGATIVES.. that is not what I am asking. I am asking for positive affirmations.. if you have any spiritual convictions or the courage of them.... then share them... NB I am not asking for 'religious' convictions... I think we should move beyond religion because that clearly makes you angry..... so let's try to find some clear air..... Edited December 12, 2021 by Truthspoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FVCK BILLY G4TES Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, Truthspoon said: These are all your impositions... not mine..... You do not get to dictate the terms of my spiritual reality. Anyway...please, let's move the focus away from me and my beliefs and have a look at what you believe.... What do you think happens when you die? Do you have an immortal soul? Do good people go to a different place to identifiably evil people? Instead of being negative and constantly attacking why don't you try to produce something positive about the spiritual possibilities? Of course if you don't believe in them....then that's fine... but that also means continuing a conversation like this would be pointless since I am not only trying to 'defend' Jesus but a whole couple of millennia of metaphysical and spiritual experience.... and that would need a whole thread to itself... So...play fair.... You know, or at least think you know what I believe. What do you believe? REMEMBER...do not speak in terms of NEGATIVES.. that is not what I am asking. I am asking for positive affirmations.. if you have any spiritual convictions or the courage of them.... then share them... NB I am not asking for 'religious' convictions... I think we should move beyond religion because that clearly makes you angry..... so let's try to find some clear air..... Didn’t answer my question but fine I’ll play ball for once I don’t believe in hugging the trees in the woods and shitting in the river if thats what you were guessing lmao I don’t know what happens when we die nor does it matter, I’m in this reality in this world on this planet so I don’t claim to know I also don’t care, I don’t believe that jesus, yahweh or any other bull has the answer and it’s arrogant for us as a human race to completely disregard our current reality in favor of a spiritual one that may or may not exist based on books written by nasty individuals thousands of years ago I say revert to paganism because people can’t let go of religious bollocks and mythologies so at least people would pray to something other than the god of israel Do you worship the god of Israel tho? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 (edited) I asked you an honest question in good faith. Please try again without the personal attacks..... I am trying to be honest with you and lose the antagonistic baggage. Just try it.....please.... Try not to attack and instead try to make a positive affirmation about your spiritual beliefs. Remember...we are not attacking each other anymore. Got that? Because it looks like you don't have any. Which is fine. But it means we might as well end this conversation here and I can step down from being the Christian punchbag. Because you are not just attacking Christianity but all spiritual concepts in totality... And that's another thread for another time... Maybe it would be nice for a non-Christian to step in and tell us about their spiritual understanding.... Would definitely help the problem we have here with binary thinking. Edited December 12, 2021 by Truthspoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FVCK BILLY G4TES Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Just now, Truthspoon said: I asked you an honest question in good faith. Please try again without the personal attacks..... I am trying to be honest with you and lose the antagonistic baggage. Just try it.....please.... Try not to attack and instead try to make a positive affirmation about your spiritual beliefs. Remember...we are not attacking each other anymore. Got that? Literally didn’t attack you just asked a simple question and answered some of yours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 (edited) Thing is Billy Bob I probably have more experience of Norse religion that you do. My grandmother was half Norwegian and she was from a family which had a tradition of Odin worship. She was a white-witch in fact..... I also have some of this 'power' if you like...... it nearly got me sucked into a life of slavery to the Illuminati... but also at the same time, she was probably 80 percent insane, as all these people ultimately are. Odin was after all the 'mad God'. I have had to deal with a lot of pain in my life and family because of the madness of the Norse religion and how they tie up with Freemasonry these days..... The Norse Gods are not a fully formed religious system. They mean nothing and are only useful as folklore but offer no genuine spiritual truth except if you want to get sucked into Satanic Freemasonic societies because the Norse religion will not protect you from them but will lead you straight into it. Edited December 12, 2021 by Truthspoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FVCK BILLY G4TES Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Truthspoon said: Thing is Billy Bob I probably have more experience of Norse religion that you do. My grandmother was half Norwegian and she was from a family which had a tradition of Odin worship. She was a white-with in fact..... but also at the same time, she was probably 80 percent insane. I have had to deal with a of pain in my life and family because of the madness of the Norse religion and how they tie up with Freemasonry these days..... Yes you probably do but i didn’t claim to know extensive knowledge about norse culture I’m done now the misdirection and kvetching is wearing me out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 15 minutes ago, FVCK BILLY G4TES said: Literally didn’t attack you just asked a simple question and answered some of yours Your post had literally nothing positive.... it was all negative and attacks on religion. I only asked for positive spiritual affirmations. It's fine that you don't have any. But you ought to think about what that means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, FVCK BILLY G4TES said: Yes you probably do but i didn’t claim to know extensive knowledge about norse culture I’m done now the misdirection and kvetching is wearing me out But you brought that up in an earlier post..... If you can't discuss the topic in any meaningful or positive way then that's fine... But you only seem able to 'do negative'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FVCK BILLY G4TES Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Truthspoon said: Your post had literally nothing positive.... it was all negative and attacks on religion. I only asked for positive spiritual affirmations. It's fine that you don't have any. But you ought to think about what that means. Cry harder pearl clutcher the JWO waits for no one hahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Just now, FVCK BILLY G4TES said: Cry harder pearl clutcher the JWO waits for no one hahaha Back to that old chestnut. Nothing positive eh Billy. What a shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FVCK BILLY G4TES Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Truthspoon said: Back to that old chestnut. Nothing positive eh Billy. What a shame. Because your morality complex is fucking obnoxious, taking the moral high ground when the burden of proof is completely on you not me I am yet to see anything that will convince me of jesus and yahweh’s greatness… only the contrary Stop it spoon I can have a genuine discussion but when a few barbs and critiques are enough for you to clutch them pearls then I have nothing to say to you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, FVCK BILLY G4TES said: Because your morality complex is fucking obnoxious, taking the moral high ground when the burden of proof is completely on you not me I am yet to see anything that will convince me of jesus and yahweh’s greatness… only the contrary Stop it spoon I can have a genuine discussion but when a few barbs and critiques are enough for you to clutch them pearls then I have nothing to say to you Gone back to being nasty again eh? Couldn't maintain 'nice' for long could you? You ought to get that looked at. All I've done is posted facts from history, asked you a few questions and told you a bit about myself. From you I got nothing. Perhaps because you ARE nothing. Goodbye Billy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Love that you're such a pussy you daren't even write FUCK BILLY GATES...lol.... wetter than a soggy lettuce leaf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FVCK BILLY G4TES Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, Truthspoon said: Gone back to being nasty again eh? Couldn't maintain 'nice' for long could you? You ought to get that looked at. All I've done is posted facts from history, asked you a few questions and told you a bit about myself. From you I got nothing. Perhaps because you ARE nothing. Goodbye Billy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FVCK BILLY G4TES Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Its ok spoon you can pm me your admission to worshipping the jewish god I know the truth hurts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Oakley Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 5 hours ago, Truthspoon said: Now you're acting like a little bitch. Look in the mirror. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsjaybigjay Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 can you lot grow up Over two fucking pages of this total BS just set each other to ignore and leave the crap out of the thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Macnamara Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 (edited) The taxpayer funded boarder force still 'delivering' illegal immigrants into britain. They can't be 'refugees' if they have already been in a safe country like france or spain or italy or greece etc. After that they are economic migrants: Migrant flashes 'V for victory' sign as he is among another 30 would-be refugees delivered to UK shore by Border Force vessel in first Channel crossings for 10 days Pictures show group of around 30 men being brought into the harbour in Dover The group arrived this morning - the first for more than a week after bad weather It comes three weeks after 27 people died trying to reach the UK via the channel By Katie Feehan For Mailonline Published: 12:50 GMT, 15 December 2021 | Updated: 20:10 GMT, 15 December 2021 So far this year, more than 26,000 migrants have reached Britain since the start of the year, compared with just 8,410 in the whole of 2020. What happens to migrants after they arrive in the UK? Migrants who have been picked up after landing or intercepted at sea are taken to a Border Force processing centre, usually near Dover Here arrivals are triaged to identify any medical needs or vulnerabilities, fed and checked to see if they have a criminal record. Adults have an initial interview before being sent to accommodation centre across Britain, paid for by UK taxpayers and provided by private contractors. The migrants are given £37.75 per week for essentials like food, clothes and toiletries while they wait for a decision on their asylum application. Kent County Council normally takes unaccompanied children into its care, although other local authorities are also involved in this programme. Other migrants might be kept in a detention centre ahead of a plan to send them back to Europe. However, just five were deported last year as ministers admitted to 'difficulties'. While a member of the EU, Britain was part of the Dublin Regulation, an EU-wide deal that required migrants to apply for asylum in the first member state they arrive in and could be deported back to that country if they moved on to another. However, since Brexit there has been no formal arrangements to allow migrants to be deported to France or another EU member country. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10312847/Dozens-migrants-detained-Border-Force-crossing-English-Channel.html Edited December 15, 2021 by Macnamara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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