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1 minute ago, Truthspoon said:

 

You have no idea what I believe because you don't take any notice of what I write...

 

But you are quick to slander me and pigeon hole me as a Church Christian...


I'm not going to waste any more time with you since you're only interested in me when you can insult me.

 

That's an abusive and pointless relationship from my perspective.

You literally started by saying “i prefer jesus” lmao 

 

Pearl clutching is real haha

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7 minutes ago, FVCK BILLY G4TES said:

 
 

My point was why worship at the foot of the god of Israel and the jewish messiah when society under “paganism” (which literally just means anyone who doesn’t subscribe to abrahamic religion) people weren’t enslaved morons fighting for a god who hates them, worshipping the customs of the antithetical enemy who seeks to destroy them

 

 

Jesus wasn't a Jewish messiah. He was murdered by the Jews. 

 

By the same Jews and the same system who are trying to murder us....

 

Doesn't that tell you something?

 

Jesus' enemies are our enemies....... 

 

He was the first to fight the battle we are still fighting.

 

And you would turn on him? When he gave his life fighting for us against the Synagogue of Satan?

 

For shame sir...for shame....

 

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4 minutes ago, FVCK BILLY G4TES said:

“You disagree with christianity and being a slave to yahweh so you must be a jew”

 

Classic

 

You have the mind of a Jew......you hate Jesus for no logical reason.....there is no logical reason to hate Jesus...unless you think like a Jew for some reason..

 

Some kind of satanic or atheistic Jew funded NLP must have brainwashed the innate goodness out of your soul.

 

And now you see 'fair is foul and foul is fair'.... You just can't see clearly.....

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http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/jesusjew.htm

 

Jesus was not a Jew. The Jews of and their religion of Rabbinical Judaism comes from the Pharisees. It was these that Jesus specifically fought against and opposed and who ultimately engineered his murder.

 

 

Jesus was a 'Judean', not a Jew.

During His lifetime, no persons were described as "Jews" anywhere. That fact is supported by theology, history and science. When Jesus was in Judea, it was not the "homeland" of the ancestors of those who today style themselves "Jews". Their ancestors never set a foot in Judea. They existed at that time in Asia, their "homeland", and were known as Khazars. In none of the manuscripts of the original Old or New Testament was Jesus described or referred to as a "Jew". The term originated in the late eighteenth century as an abbreviation of the term Judean and refers to a resident of Judea without regard to race or religion, just as the term "Texan" signifies a person living in Texas.

In spite of the powerful propaganda effort of the so-called "Jews", they have been unable to prove in recorded history that there is one record, prior to that period, of a race religion or nationality, referred to as "Jew". The religious sect in Judea, in the time of Jesus, to which self-styled "Jews" today refer to as "Jews", were known as "Pharisees". "Judaism" today and "Pharisaism" in the time of Jesus are the same.

Jesus abhorred and denounced "Pharisaism"; hence the words, "Woe unto you Scribes and Pharisees, Hypocrites, Ye Serpents, Ye Generation of Vipers".

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1 minute ago, Truthspoon said:

 

You have the mind of a Jew......you hate Jesus for no logical reason.....there is no logical reason to hate Jesus...unless you think like a Jew for some reason..

I don’t hate anyone that again wasn’t my point

 

Jesus was jewish

 

Yahweh is jewish

 

Yahweh chose the jews as his “chosen people” and has ordered the execution of the rest of us 

 

Paul was a pharisee and had “visions” so he never actually met the jesus character 

 

Tacitus spoke about “followers of christ” years and years after jesus’ supposed miracles

 

St Peter, the first pope was a jew 


The Roman empire collapsed after being conquered by Christianity

 

As I say anyone can believe whatever fear based mind control they like, 

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Sorry if this is getting spammy...... 

 

I'm learning bits an pieces as well by posting this stuff so please don't think it's a lecture, more a mutual learning experience.

 

This is a great article which is worth reading despite your beliefs..

 

https://rense.com/general96/jesusnotjew.html

 

It would be virtually impossible to find a book written about Jesus that doesn’t describe him as a Jew. Are they all calling him a Jew because they think he was a Jew by religion? Are they all calling him a Jew because they think he was a Jew by ancestry? A person can be a Jew by religion while not being a Jew by ancestry, and a person can be a Jew by ancestry while not being a Jew by religion. Just what are the facts concerning the religion and ancestry of Jesus?

 

First, was Jesus a Jew as far as his religion was concerned? No, his religion was Hebrewism; or, as we now call it, the Religion of the Old Testament. That religion was the religion of the Hebrews and the Israelites, and was based on the Law of Moses and the teachings of the prophets. Stephen S. Wise, a former chief rabbi of the United States, said:

 

The return from Babylon [following the Captivity, about 538 B.C.], and the adoption of the Babylonian Talmud, marks the end of Hebrewism, and the beginning of Judaism.”6

 

Jesus criticized the Jews, or Pharisees, for establishing Judaism which is based on the Talmud,7 and which at the time of Jesus was still called the Tradition of the Elders.8

 

When the people returned from Babylon, about 538 B.C., after the Babylonian Captivity, they brought back a different religion than the one practiced just fifty years earlier. The new religion was the Tradition of the Elders (or Judaism), and that religion was based on the teachings of the rabbis rather than the laws of God.

 

Then came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees, which were of Jerusalem, saying, Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread. But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?”9

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In this painting by James Tissot, Jesus was questioned by the Pharisees, and he rebuked them and criticized their religion.10

 

Second, was Jesus a Jew by ancestry? Jews were not Israelites as they were not descended from Jacob. They were descended from Esau, the brother of Jacob. While both were grandsons of Abraham and sons of Isaac, Jacob was favored by God.13 Esau’s descendants were called Edomites,14 and later they were called Jews since many of them were then living in Judea because the Edomites had been captured by John Hyrcanus and forced to convert to the religion then in place in Judea. Jesus stated in Matthew, “I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”15 When Jesus sent his disciples out to spread his message he told them, “Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”16 The Jews were not a part of the sheep of the house of Israel that Jesus talked about. Note that it is not the fact that the Jews did not believe in the message of Jesus that made them not of his sheep. Jesus knew that it was because they were not of his sheep that they did not believe in his message.

 

But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.”17

 

Therefore, Jesus in his own words gave us proof that the Jews were not of his sheep, the house of Israel. They were not Israelites. Jesus knew that they didn’t have the same religion or ancestry that he had.

 

Jacob kept his line pure and God rewarded him by making him the father of God’s “chosen people.”18 Note that the Jews are not the “chosen people” even though they say that they are. Jacob’s brother Esau married out of his own people and God punished him. His descendants moved to the Mount Seir area southeast of the Dead Sea. His descendants were called Edomites.19 They were the ancestors of the people known today as Jews.20 Later the Edomites moved into the areas vacated by the Israelites during the Captivity. Many years after that when John Hyrcanus, one of the Macabean kings, conquered the Edomites and then offered them full citizenship if they would adopt the religion then in place in Judea, this brought most of the Edomites into Judea and into the religion later known as Judaism.

 

As far as authentic history will carry us, the descendants of the Edomites are to be sought for rather amongst the Jews themselves, than amongst any other people ….”21

 

The Edomite Jews claimed they were from Abraham, which they were, being descended from Esau, a son of Isaac. But a passage in John proves that the Jews were not Israelites since they told Jesus that they had never been in bondage.22 Of course, the Israelites had been held as slaves in Egypt.23 Those were Edomite Jews to whom Jesus was speaking.

 

The Jews at the time of Jesus were not a part of any tribe of Israel, including the Tribe of Judah. They were a mixture of Babylonians, Cannanites, Hittites, but mainly Edomites. The Jews of today are the descendants of those people.24 Jesus was not a Jew but was actually an Israelite, as he was descended from Levi through Aaron and Zadok.25 He was also an Israelite because he was descended from Judah through David.26 Both Levi and Judah were sons of Jacob who was renamed Israel by God. During his ministry Jesus had many battles with the Pharisees who were Edomite Jews, and not Israelites.27 The Pharisees were not respected by Jesus because they enforced the Tradition of the Elders, later known as Judaism, which Jesus did not accept.28 Also, Jesus did not respect them because he knew that they were Edomite Jews and not Israelites.

 

Jesus was of the religion of Hebrewism; or, as we call it today, the Religion of the Old Testament, and he was an Israelite of the Tribes of Levi and Judah. So, contrary to what is said or written about Jesus being a Jew, he was not a Jew either by religion or by ancestry.29

 

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Just now, Truthspoon said:

Sorry if this is getting spammy...... 

 

I'm learning bits an pieces as well by posting this stuff so please don't think it's a lecture, more a mutual learning experience.

 

This is a great article which is worth reading despite your beliefs..

 

https://rense.com/general96/jesusnotjew.html

 

It would be virtually impossible to find a book written about Jesus that doesn’t describe him as a Jew. Are they all calling him a Jew because they think he was a Jew by religion? Are they all calling him a Jew because they think he was a Jew by ancestry? A person can be a Jew by religion while not being a Jew by ancestry, and a person can be a Jew by ancestry while not being a Jew by religion. Just what are the facts concerning the religion and ancestry of Jesus?

First, was Jesus a Jew as far as his religion was concerned? No, his religion was Hebrewism; or, as we now call it, the Religion of the Old Testament. That religion was the religion of the Hebrews and the Israelites, and was based on the Law of Moses and the teachings of the prophets. Stephen S. Wise, a former chief rabbi of the United States, said:

The return from Babylon [following the Captivity, about 538 B.C.], and the adoption of the Babylonian Talmud, marks the end of Hebrewism, and the beginning of Judaism.”6

Jesus criticized the Jews, or Pharisees, for establishing Judaism which is based on the Talmud,7 and which at the time of Jesus was still called the Tradition of the Elders.8

When the people returned from Babylon, about 538 B.C., after the Babylonian Captivity, they brought back a different religion than the one practiced just fifty years earlier. The new religion was the Tradition of the Elders (or Judaism), and that religion was based on the teachings of the rabbis rather than the laws of God.

Then came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees, which were of Jerusalem, saying, Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread. But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?”9

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In this painting by James Tissot, Jesus was questioned by the Pharisees, and he rebuked them and criticized their religion.10

You have balls by calling me a jew then basically throwing out the most jewish argument going

 

”They don’t have the covenant” blah blah blah


You’re one step down from saying “we’re the real jews”

 

Its all bollocks and the sooner people get out the hamster wheel the better

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28 minutes ago, FVCK BILLY G4TES said:

You have balls by calling me a jew then basically throwing out the most jewish argument going

 

”They don’t have the covenant” blah blah blah


You’re one step down from saying “we’re the real jews”

 

Its all bollocks and the sooner people get out the hamster wheel the better

 

What's bollocks?


Spirituality?

 

Loving your fellow man.... trying to be a good person.... trying to transcend this reality in hope of a better one....

 

Like I said, you don't have the answers.. I know you think you do. But I know you don't.

 

You have only nihilism and despair wrought from confusion.

 

You flim flam about European paganism, which you know nothing about anyway....so what do you know?

 

I see clearly. There is much to this world and this reality that you have failed to observe.....

 

You only have a very small part of the puzzle and as such, you cannot see the full picture.

 

 

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It's not enough Billy Bob to be 'the guy who just hates Jews'.


If that's all there is to you then you've missed out on all the possibilities to learn something useful while you're here....

 

There's a much bigger story here.... and you're missing out on it all.

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Truthspoon said:

It's not enough Billy Bob to be 'the guy who just hates Jews'.


If that's all there is to you then you've basically fucked your life up and missed out on all the possibilities to learn something useful while you're here....

 

There's a much bigger story here.... and you're missing out on it all.

Strawman, I don’t hate jews as I said before I don’t hate anyone, it’s the religious framework that’s the problem 

 

Sure I am pal, when Jesus’ robes will be stained red with the blood of edom (us) we will see then won’t we

 

Who is this coming from Edom, from Bozrah, with his garments stained crimson? Who is this, robed in splendor, striding forward in the greatness of his strength? “It is I, proclaiming victory, mighty to save.”

 

Why are your garments red, like those of one treading the winepress?
 

I have trodden the winepress alone; from the nations no one was with me. I trampled them in my anger and trod them down in my wrath; their blood spattered my garments, and I stained all my clothing.

 

it was for me the day of vengeance; the year for me to redeem had come

 

I looked, but there was no one to help, I was appalled that no one gave support; so my own arm achieved salvation for me, and my own wrath sustained me.

 

I trampled the nations in my anger; in my wrath I made them drunk and poured their blood on the ground.

 

 

Isaiah 63
Etc 

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I'm not here to defend the Old Testament.


Jesus' ministry was to moderate the Old Testament and give a new vision of God...


"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone'.

 

It's obvious but you seem to have missed the obvious...

 

So too with Isiah's description of the wine-press.

 

Jesus himself become the grape and the true-vine... and it is his blood which is spilled.

 

“I am the true vine, and my Father is the vinedresser. .
I am the vine, you are the branches” (15:1,5).

 

https://www.rlhymersjr.com/Online_Sermons/2009/040409PM_TheWinepress.html

 

I'm not really here to teach you the basics of Jesus and his ministry on Earth and the obvious way he sought to moderate the old law.....

 

If you haven't figured out these basics by now....... there's little hope for you.

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

I'm not here to defend the Old Testament.


Jesus' ministry was to moderate the Old Testament and give a new vision of God...


"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone'.

 

It's obvious but you seem to have missed the obvious...

 

So too with Isiah's description of the wine-press.

 

Jesus himself become the grape and the true-vine... and it is his blood which is spilled.

 

“I am the true vine, and my Father is the vinedresser. .
I am the vine, you are the branches” (15:1,5).

 

https://www.rlhymersjr.com/Online_Sermons/2009/040409PM_TheWinepress.html

 

I'm not really here to teach you the basics of Jesus and his ministry on Earth and the obvious way he sought to moderate the old law.....

 

If you haven't figured out these basics by now....... there's little hope for you.

 

 

 

Again its the whole idea that “we have the covenant now” 


Moderating the old testament into the new and making it the “religion for the other side” is exactly what people like St peter did 

 

A religion for the gentiles who can still worship the god of Israel without having to convert to judaism

 

The people who really pushed Christianity to the forefront was Paul the Pharisee and St. Peter the jew, some people refer to Christianity as Paulianity due to this

 

I have only one question for you truthspoon, do you worship the god of Israel?

 

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13 minutes ago, FVCK BILLY G4TES said:

Again its the whole idea that “we have the covenant now” 


Moderating the old testament into the new and making it the “religion for the other side” is exactly what people like St peter did 

 

A religion for the gentiles who can still worship the god of Israel without having to convert to judaism

 

The people who really pushed Christianity to the forefront was Paul the Pharisee and St. Peter the jew, some people refer to Christianity as Paulianity due to this

 

I have only one question for you truthspoon, do you worship the god of Israel?

 

 

These are all your impositions... not mine.....

 

You do not get to dictate the terms of my spiritual reality.


Anyway...please, let's move the focus away from me and my beliefs and have a look at what you believe....

 

What do you think happens when you die? Do you have an immortal soul?

 

Do good people go to a different place to identifiably evil people?

 

Instead of being negative and constantly attacking why don't you try to produce something positive about the spiritual possibilities?

 

Of course if you don't believe in them....then that's fine... but that also means continuing a conversation like this would be pointless since I am not only trying to 'defend' Jesus but a whole couple of millennia of metaphysical and spiritual experience.... and that would need a whole thread to itself...

 

So...play fair.... You know, or at least think you know what I believe.


What do you believe?

 

REMEMBER...do not speak in terms of NEGATIVES.. that is not what I am asking.


I am asking for positive affirmations.. if you have any spiritual convictions or the courage of them.... then share them...

 

NB I am not asking for 'religious' convictions... I think we should move beyond religion because that clearly makes you angry..... so let's try to find some clear air.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

 

These are all your impositions... not mine.....

 

You do not get to dictate the terms of my spiritual reality.


Anyway...please, let's move the focus away from me and my beliefs and have a look at what you believe....

 

What do you think happens when you die? Do you have an immortal soul?

 

Do good people go to a different place to identifiably evil people?

 

Instead of being negative and constantly attacking why don't you try to produce something positive about the spiritual possibilities?

 

Of course if you don't believe in them....then that's fine... but that also means continuing a conversation like this would be pointless since I am not only trying to 'defend' Jesus but a whole couple of millennia of metaphysical and spiritual experience.... and that would need a whole thread to itself...

 

So...play fair.... You know, or at least think you know what I believe.


What do you believe?

 

REMEMBER...do not speak in terms of NEGATIVES.. that is not what I am asking.


I am asking for positive affirmations.. if you have any spiritual convictions or the courage of them.... then share them...

 

NB I am not asking for 'religious' convictions... I think we should move beyond religion because that clearly makes you angry..... so let's try to find some clear air.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Didn’t answer my question but fine I’ll play ball for once

 

I don’t believe in hugging the trees in the woods and shitting in the river if thats what you were guessing lmao

 

I don’t know what happens when we die nor does it matter, I’m in this reality in this world on this planet so I don’t claim to know

 

I also don’t care, I don’t believe that jesus, yahweh or any other bull has the answer and it’s arrogant for us as a human race to completely disregard our current reality in favor of a spiritual one that may or may not exist based on books written by nasty individuals thousands of years ago

 

I say revert to paganism because people can’t let go of religious bollocks and mythologies so at least people would pray to something other than the god of israel

 

Do you worship the god of Israel tho?

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I asked you an honest question in good faith.

 

Please try again without the personal attacks.....

 

I am trying to be honest with you and lose the antagonistic baggage.

 

Just try it.....please.... Try not to attack and instead try to make a positive affirmation about your spiritual beliefs.


Remember...we are not attacking each other anymore.

 

Got that?

 

Because it looks like you don't have any.


Which is fine. But it means we might as well end this conversation here and I can step down from being the Christian punchbag.

 

Because you are not just attacking Christianity but all spiritual concepts in totality... 

 

And that's another thread for another time...

 

Maybe it would be nice for a non-Christian to step in and tell us about their spiritual understanding....

 

Would definitely help the problem we have here with binary thinking.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Just now, Truthspoon said:

 

I asked you an honest question in good faith.

 

Please try again without the personal attacks.....

 

I am trying to be honest with you and lose the antagonistic baggage.

 

Just try it.....please.... Try not to attack and instead try to make a positive affirmation about your spiritual beliefs.


Remember...we are not attacking each other anymore.

 

Got that?

 

 

Literally didn’t attack you just asked a simple question and answered some of yours  

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Thing is Billy Bob I probably have more experience of Norse religion that you do.


My grandmother was half Norwegian and she was from a family which had a tradition of Odin worship.

 

She was a white-witch in fact..... I also have some of this 'power' if you like...... it nearly got me sucked into a life of slavery to the Illuminati... but also at the same time, she was probably 80 percent insane, as all these people ultimately are. Odin was after all the 'mad God'.


I have had to deal with a lot of pain in my life and family because of the madness of the Norse religion and how they tie up with Freemasonry these days.....

 

The Norse Gods are not a fully formed religious system. They mean nothing and are only useful as folklore but offer no genuine spiritual truth except if you want to get sucked into Satanic Freemasonic societies because the Norse religion will not protect you from them but will lead you straight into it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

Thing is Billy Bob I probably have more experience of Norse religion that you do.


My grandmother was half Norwegian and she was from a family which had a tradition of Odin worship.

 

She was a white-with in fact..... but also at the same time, she was probably 80 percent insane.


I have had to deal with a of pain in my life and family because of the madness of the Norse religion and how they tie up with Freemasonry these days.....

 

 

Yes you probably do but i didn’t claim to know extensive knowledge about norse culture 

 

I’m done now the misdirection and kvetching is wearing me out

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15 minutes ago, FVCK BILLY G4TES said:

Literally didn’t attack you just asked a simple question and answered some of yours  

 

Your post had literally nothing positive.... it was all negative and attacks on religion.

I only asked for positive spiritual affirmations. It's fine that you don't have any.

 

But you ought to think about what that means.

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, FVCK BILLY G4TES said:

Yes you probably do but i didn’t claim to know extensive knowledge about norse culture 

 

I’m done now the misdirection and kvetching is wearing me out

 

But you brought that up in an earlier post.....

 

If you can't discuss the topic in any meaningful or positive way then that's fine...


But you only seem able to 'do negative'.

 

 

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