RobSS Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 30 minutes ago, skitzorat said: he claimed you were attempting to gaslight people with your opinion of [it being] "not that bad". I already explained that to you. Your twisting what Macnamara said. He said: "isn't it time that you stopped harassing people in this thread rob? they know what is happening because they can see it with their own eyes so to try and deny it is to gaslight people" I have never denied that there is an agenda, so Macnamara is not being honest, especially bearing in mind that in the post he was replying to, I clearly stated things are bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 (edited) 39 minutes ago, skitzorat said: that says it all really sadly some people are very happy with this state of affairs and those people cannot be expected to act in good faith online or off and what they will try and do is belittle you for pointing out what you can see with your own eyes and when you pull them up on it they will play the victim That's pretty much the woke agenda in a nutshell Edited November 9, 2021 by Macnamara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 Just now, EnigmaticWorld said: Sounds good, but that's not reality, Rob. The reality is that the world is still tribal, and cultures often clash. And for the millionth time, not all, but it doesn't take many people to cause a lot of problems for everyone else. That's why I don't get bogged down and tied up with labels and the need to be part of any tribe, cult, religious organisation or political party, as it inhibits spiritual evolution and growth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 (edited) now when you get one of these people who aren't acting in good faith what they will try and do is drag you into bickering because what they want to do is BURY the good posts They want to bury the informative posts under bickering so that people reading the forum won't get to see that information. They want pointless back and forths that will sabotage the thread Edited November 9, 2021 by Macnamara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 Just now, Macnamara said: that says it all really sadly some people are very happy with this state of affairs and those people cannot be expected to act in good faith online or off and what they will try and do is belittle you for pointing out what you can see with your own eyes and when you pull them up on it they will play the victim That's pretty much the woke agenda in a nutshell You said, "its ok to be white rob", and "respect their right to exist", which clearly gives the impression to anyone reading this forum that I don't think it's all right to be white and that I think whites don't have a right to exist. I have never even implied that it's not okay to be white and that it's not okay for whites to exist, and never in a million years would such terrible thoughts even enter my head. Why do you continue to refuse to retract your untrue comments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 Just now, Macnamara said: now when you get one of these people who aren't acting in good faith what they will try and do is drag you into bickering because what they want to do is BURY the good posts They want to bury the informative posts under bickering so that people reading the forum won't get to see that information. They want pointless back and forths that will sabotage the thread Then don't lie about things I have said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 Just now, RobSS said: That's why I don't get bogged down and tied up with labels and the need to be part of any tribe, cult, religious organisation or political party, as it inhibits spiritual evolution and growth. Fair enough. Colours get a bit annoying. I am obviously white, but I prefer to identify as a North Western European. I understand why people say white though. Is Christian not a label? Is heterosexual not a label? Does a label only matter if it's negative? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skitzorat Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, Macnamara said: that says it all really sadly some people are very happy with this state of affairs and those people cannot be expected to act in good faith online or off Won't somebody pleeeeeeeease think of the minorities! They're oppressed and under attack too! What about the poor asian people?! What about the poor black people?! What about the poor rainbow people?! What about the poor muslim people?! What about the poor jewish people?! My heart fucking bleeds. At the very least - Where's my fucking European History Pride Month! The growing list of what is considered racist makes it clear that White people are not a privileged class. They experience the worst racism of all. https://www.bitchute.com/video/UQ3yIZF374GK/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, Macnamara said: now when you get one of these people who aren't acting in good faith what they will try and do is drag you into bickering because what they want to do is BURY the good posts yup what's needed is a savy staff who understand how all of these games are played Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 Just now, EnigmaticWorld said: Fair enough. Colours get a bit annoying. I am obviously white, but I prefer to identify as a North Western European. I understand why people say white though. Is Christian not a label? Is heterosexual not a label? Does a label only matter if it's negative? Getting bogged down and tied up over labels is the problem, not necessarily labels themselves, but I always try to avoid labels as much as possible, even though it's impossible to avoid them all of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skitzorat Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, Macnamara said: now when you get one of these people who aren't acting in good faith what they will try and do is drag you into bickering because what they want to do is BURY the good posts They want to bury the informative posts under bickering so that people reading the forum won't get to see that information. They want pointless back and forths that will sabotage the thread ahh.. thank you, never looked at it that way - good point. Duly noted. I'm the first to admit I often buy into it 'just because' - sometimes I like to be a smarta$$, not because I've brought into the bickering per se - but I will keep that in mind. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Macnamara said: yup what's needed is a savy staff who understand how all of these games are played when you get one of those people intent on burying a thread the trick is to split off all of their posts into their own thread and tell them to post in there. What always happens is that they then shut up because they don't really want a legitimate discussion. What they wanted to do was DISRUPT the target thread and when they are denied the ability to do that they stop because their little game is over on the old forum the staff were enabling the woke crowd and as a result they had free rein to piss all over the forum and they did Edited November 9, 2021 by Macnamara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 9 minutes ago, Macnamara said: now when you get one of these people who aren't acting in good faith what they will try and do is drag you into bickering because what they want to do is BURY the good posts They want to bury the informative posts under bickering so that people reading the forum won't get to see that information. They want pointless back and forths that will sabotage the thread You're not acting in good faith making false claims about my views. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 Just now, Macnamara said: when you get one of those people intent on burying a thread the trick is to split off all of their posts into their own thread and tell them to post in there. What always happens is that they then shut up because they don't really want a legitimate discussion. What they wanted to do was DISRUPT the target thread and when they are denied the ability to do that they stop because their little game is over You disrupted the thread today by making false claims about my views. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, Macnamara said: on the old forum the staff were enabling the woke crowd and as a result they had free to rein to piss all over the forum and they did there us a very real danger that some of those trouble makers can move right back into THIS forum and start up their old games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 Just now, Macnamara said: there us a very real danger that some of those trouble makers can move right back into THIS forum and start up their old games You're the one playing games. You said, "its ok to be white rob", and "respect their right to exist", which clearly gives the impression to anyone reading this forum that I don't think it's all right to be white and that I think whites don't have a right to exist. I have never even implied that it's not okay to be white and that it's not okay for whites to exist, and never in a million years would such terrible thoughts even enter my head. Why do you continue to refuse to retract your untrue comments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skitzorat Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 26 minutes ago, Macnamara said: That's pretty much the woke agenda in a nutshel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 Just now, skitzorat said: You do play the victim more than any white person I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RobSS Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 12 minutes ago, skitzorat said: Have you actually ever experienced any discrimination for being white, and if so, what have you experienced? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observed Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 12 hours ago, Macnamara said: when you get one of those people intent on burying a thread the trick is to split off all of their posts into their own thread and tell them to post in there. What always happens is that they then shut up because they don't really want a legitimate discussion. What they wanted to do was DISRUPT the target thread and when they are denied the ability to do that they stop because their little game is over on the old forum the staff were enabling the woke crowd and as a result they had free rein to piss all over the forum and they did I remember a guy on the old forum who was proudly a Bolshie. He would derail any thread posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Observed said: I remember a guy on the old forum who was proudly a Bolshie. He would derail any thread posted. This thread was derailed by slurs, innuendos and falsehoods aimed at me because Macnamara couldn't find any words to debate in a reasonable manner. It's shameful to lie about another poster and accuse them of having views they don't have, but some posters are so fanatical, they don't have any shame. Edited November 9, 2021 by RobSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observed Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, RobSS said: This thread was derailed by slurs, innuendos and falsehoods aimed at me because Macnamara couldn't find any words to debate in a reasonable manner. It's shameful to lie about another poster and accuse them of having views they don't have, but some posters are so fanatical, they don't have any shame. If its concerning you that much it would be best to leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 Just now, Observed said: If its concerning you that much it would be best to leave. Why should I leave because someone makes things up to use against me? Please tell me that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observed Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, RobSS said: Why should I leave because someone makes things up to use against me? Please tell me that... Because you are complaining about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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