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2 hours ago, Free_your_mind said:

I think the Awakened should be alarmed by what you've done here. You've focused purely on non-white people and have claimed they are the reason the country is in a bad way. 

 

No i'm saying that the tory government is not a conservative government but a globalist one. I'm saying that the globalist conspiracy, which i'm tracing back to a sabbatean controlled freemasonry has manouvered its assets into key gatekeeper positions in power from where they were then in the position to carry out their covid agenda

 

They had their people in key positions of power in other countries too by this point and were then able to do the same there. Boris johnson for example has ancestral roots in turkey and I wonder if his ancesters were DONMEH who were sabbatean crypto-jews; he's certainly pals with the rothschilds

 

Do i think those people i posted pictures of in that post above perceive britain the same way i do? No i do not. i think they work for the freemasonic crown AGAINST the british people but that is not a race thing as there are british people of various ethnicities who are against the agenda

 

What i'm arguing though is that this idea that you can make your government as diverse as possible and it will automatically lead to a better future for the british public is not true. In fact at this time in history it is more likely to play into the hands of the globalists who use diversity through MASS immigration to destroy societal cohesion

 

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You then pass off any accountability to those comments by saying global elites are actually the real racists, because they are controlling it. But if that's how you see non-white people role, I hope you don't reflect it in your everyday life.

 

No i don't see all non white people that way nor do i blame the immigrants who i think are used as pawns

 

But if you are asking me to celebrate MASS immigration then i won't anymore than an indian would celebrate MASS immigration into india or an african would celebrate MASS immigration into their country. What i will do is call it out for exactly what it is which is large scale social engineering on the part of the globalist elites to water down local cultures and create a hodge-podge globalised and rootless population of people that have lost all connection to the land and to their own past as then those people will be more easily controlled and placed under the totalitarian control of a centralised world government

 

So why would i celebrate a tactic that is being used to create a world that I don't want to see? Its a process that is being played out across the world in various ways and for a long time now so there will be many non white people who feel the same way as me because they will be able to perceive that process too. Some of them will be british and some will be from other countries around the world and those people are my allies

 

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Your comment about a health damaging vaccine is nonsense. Why do you keep saying things that are the opposite to the truth? I know you have all the counter arguements ready, and I'm aware of most of then. Fortunately, the best settler of the vaccine debate is time and we won't have to wait long. The covid vaccine theories will be debunked in 3-6 months after the covid roll out with no significant negative effects on people's health. Just watch.

 

I disagree. What we will see is what we always see with vaccines which is that the cabal will distance themselves from the health problems that manifest by saying 'correlation doesn't prove causation' because they know that if a person develops neurological problems like autism or autoimmune disorders it is difficult to then pin that on the vaccines because the scientists behind the vaccines themselves say they don't understand the mechanisms at work such as 'molecular mimickry', 'viral interference' and 'immune enhancement'

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When the British Empire, or Jews as you say, went into India, they seeked to reinforce the caste system. As a divided country is an easier one to control. They actually went out of their way to focus on racial differences. It looks like you've fallen for the same trick left right and centre.

 

What the sabbateans did was place their freemasonic lodges in india which is why we now see india going along with the globalist programme for example through destroying cash and rolling out a giant ID system for their population

 

The people behind that are in lockstep with the sabbatean elites and are not working for the benefit of indian people

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17 hours ago, Macnamara said:

Does 'diversity' = freedom?

 

We are watching the systematic takedown of our country. The economy is being eviscerated and the population are being genocided by the roll out of health destroying vaccines.

 

We were told by the authoritarian left that if we can just get more women into positions of power the world will be a better place and yet with the likes of merkl, sturgeon and may in charge the world still went to shit

 

This is because the problem isn't men; the problem is psychopaths and they come in both genders and in all skin colours

 

I can't help but notice this takedown of the british people is being presided over by many people who are not white but am i saying that is the problem? No i'm saying the problem is that our country is run by GLOBALISTS who are looking to destroy britain in order to create a world government run by the sabbatean elites and they perceive the british people to be an obstacle that needs to be removed on their journey to totalitarian control

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I wouldn't be surprised if all of the above MP's signed this.

 

"We Believe in Israel and the Israel Britain Alliance have published a list of the 231 General Election candidates who have signed our Pledge for Israel, an increase of 33 compared to the previous General Election in 2017."

 

60 of the candidates are Conservatives, 37 Labour, 48 Liberal Democrats, 26 Brexit Party, 15 DUP and 45 from other parties.

 

Activists from a range of pro-Israel groups sent over 26,000 emails to their local candidates to ask them to support the campaign.

 

“It is great to see cross-party support from a range of parliamentary candidates for these important pledges about Israel, which include commitments to opposing boycotts and supporting the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA) working definition of antisemitism, which defines which forms of extreme anti-Israel discourse cross the line into antisemitism.”

 

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Text of the Pledge:

 

“If elected to the United Kingdom Parliament I Pledge…

 

  • To oppose the extremists who challenge Israel ’s right to exist.
  • To support the right of people in the United Kingdom to enjoy Israeli culture and promote business, educational, religious and other connections with the Jewish State without fear of discrimination, boycotts, harassment and/or intimidation.
  • To celebrate the fact that Israel is a free society and parliamentary democracy that extends to all its citizens the right to practice their religion and have access to religious sites in Jerusalem.
  • To support the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA) working definition of antisemitism.
  • To encourage HM Government to promote trade with Israel that will increase investment and jobs for people in both countries.”

 

https://www.webelieveinisrael.org.uk/ge_2019

 

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Today we have no caste system.  And so globalism and satanism is on the rise.

Because it is chaos.

 

Order means a "caste" system, meaning everyone knows their level and they work upwards.  The entire society is a chain leading upwards to the Light.  Someone who has ability a knowledge goes up.  Same principle as on a ship, 1 captain, 1 first mate, 1 quartermaster, 1 sailmaker, 50 'hands'.

 

This is the correct order of things.

 

Chaos is when there are no captains, nobody knows if he is king or toilet cleaner.  

Nobody ascends.

 

Of course the forces of Chaos tell everyone that the Glorious Revolution of progress is coming and soon amazing money trees will grow.  They always say that.

They also say come down to the pub and drink away your weekly earnings and amazing things will happen.

This is when drunks and degenerates are in charges of society.

 

When Britain were given the administration of India by the Persian administration of India, Britain said the most highly trained people on the planet, the civil servants coming out of Oxbridge ... and only 10,000 adminstered a very backwards country a huge country.  They were titanic figures very courageous the English were back then.

 

That's why they are hated.  Because the total losers English of today just have nothing in common with people of power.

The only thing English can do today is cut their dicks off and kneel for the black the brown the yellow the dogshit ... they can kneel before dogshit.

In Islington the NGO have made a whole economy on kneeling before nothing.

 

 

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18 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

I wouldn't be surprised if all of the above MP's signed this.

 

"We Believe in Israel and the Israel Britain Alliance have published a list of the 231 General Election candidates who have signed our Pledge for Israel, an increase of 33 compared to the previous General Election in 2017."

 

60 of the candidates are Conservatives, 37 Labour, 48 Liberal Democrats, 26 Brexit Party, 15 DUP and 45 from other parties.

 

yes they will be paid up devotees of israel where global freemasonry intends to build a third temple of solomon in jerusalem

 

Also they will all be supporters of the UN's migration Compact which is designed to facilitate the free movement of people from anywhere in the world to anywhere else in the world. This is because the cabal intend to destroy regional and national diversity in order to remould humanity into globalised citizens controlled by a totalitarian world government

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18 minutes ago, rideforever said:

When Britain were given the administration of India by the Persian administration of India, Britain said the most highly trained people on the planet, the civil servants coming out of Oxbridge ... and only 10,000 adminstered a very backwards country a huge country.

 

If you look at the centres of the globalist conspiracy in britain then oxbridge is one of them for example oxford is rolling out a covid vaccine and oxford have just been caught sharing cutting edge technological secrets about quantum computing with the chinese

 

Oxford has also always been the recruiting ground of the intelligence services and in the cold war it was students from cambridge that made up the cambridge 5 spy ring that were passing secrets to the communist soviet

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23 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

yes they will be paid up devotees of israel where global freemasonry intends to build a third temple of solomon in jerusalem

 

Also they will all be supporters of the UN's migration Compact which is designed to facilitate the free movement of people from anywhere in the world to anywhere else in the world. This is because the cabal intend to destroy regional and national diversity in order to remould humanity into globalised citizens of a world government controlled by a totalitarian world government

 

 

Out of likes Mac.

 

I think their plan for the next few years may be to promote Nationalism and then tear it down.  I read the EU

from the 1st January 2021 may bar British people from tavelling to the EU, due to the fake virus except for essential travel.

 

Take a look at the Rockefellers 2010 document. Someone has highlighted the relevant points in this pdf, not about nationalism, but about many crucial aspects of the future world. 

 

https://stopbsnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/The-Annotated-Rockefeller-Foundation-Lockstep-2010.pdf

 

This is one I noticed. Pages 19/20

 

"There were other downsides, as the rise of virulent nationalism created new hazards: spectators at the 2018 World Cup, for example, wore bulletproof vests that sported a patch of their national flag".

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

I think their plan for the next few years may be to promote Nationalism and then tear it down.  I read the EU

 

they anticipate a backlash and they believe it will come in the form of people coming together around a rallying point of shared identity such as nationality

 

religion is another one which is why macron is cracking down on islam in france by closing mosques and banning home schooling

 

to get everyone to be rootless they have to breakdown anything people can rally behind as a cohesive identity

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13 hours ago, Free_your_mind said:

White supremacists today would have been Nazi's in 1936, why wouldn't have they been? They are closeted fascists who would welcome a totalitarian government in a heartbeat.

 

 

I think white supremacists are a very small minority and you have bought into the Jewish Hollywood, MSM and ZOG (Zionist Occupied Governments) lies.

 

Your avatar is free your mind. So free your mind and listen to this black artist with some truth about the Jewish hand.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

 

No i'm saying that the tory government is not a conservative government but a globalist one. I'm saying that the globalist conspiracy, which i'm tracing back to a sabbatean controlled freemasonry has manouvered its assets into key gatekeeper positions in power from where they were then in the position to carry out their covid agenda

 

They had their people in key positions of power in other countries too by this point and were then able to do the same there. Boris johnson for example has ancestral roots in turkey and I wonder if his ancesters were DONMEH who were sabbatean crypto-jews; he's certainly pals with the rothschilds

 

Do i think those people i posted pictures of in that post above perceive britain the same way i do? No i do not. i think they work for the freemasonic crown AGAINST the british people but that is not a race thing as there are british people of various ethnicities who are against the agenda

 

What i'm arguing though is that this idea that you can make your government as diverse as possible and it will automatically lead to a better future for the british public is not true. In fact at this time in history it is more likely to play into the hands of the globalists who use diversity through MASS immigration to destroy societal cohesion

 

 

No i don't see all non white people that way nor do i blame the immigrants who i think are used as pawns

 

But if you are asking me to celebrate MASS immigration then i won't anymore than an indian would celebrate MASS immigration into india or an african would celebrate MASS immigration into their country. What i will do is call it out for exactly what it is which is large scale social engineering on the part of the globalist elites to water down local cultures and create a hodge-podge globalised and rootless population of people that have lost all connection to the land and to their own past as then those people will be more easily controlled and placed under the totalitarian control of a centralised world government

 

So why would i celebrate a tactic that is being used to create a world that I don't want to see? Its a process that is being played out across the world in various ways and for a long time now so there will be many non white people who feel the same way as me because they will be able to perceive that process too. Some of them will be british and some will be from other countries around the world and those people are my allies

 

 

I disagree. What we will see is what we always see with vaccines which is that the cabal will distance themselves from the health problems that manifest by saying 'correlation doesn't prove causation' because they know that if a person develops neurological problems like autism or autoimmune disorders it is difficult to then pin that on the vaccines because the scientists behind the vaccines themselves say they don't understand the mechanisms at work such as 'molecular mimickry', 'viral interference' and 'immune enhancement'

 

What the sabbateans did was place their freemasonic lodges in india which is why we now see india going along with the globalist programme for example through destroying cash and rolling out a giant ID system for their population

 

The people behind that are in lockstep with the sabbatean elites and are not working for the benefit of indian people

 

You obviously have comprehensive knowledge on the globalist conspiracy. There is a single point of failure in the belief though as it all hinges on the initial assertion that thousands of years ago a secret cabal put in place the plans that are being played out today. All your logic follows from that one belief. It just so happens to be the hardest to find evidence for. I'm fully aware of the ancient clues but I have come to the conclusion they are mostly symbolic. Man's relationship with reptiles is fascinating, and is more about the battle between mammals and reptiles during our early evolution. I would reccomend the book Dragons of Eden for more on this. I was fully immersed into conspiracy theories 15 years ago and in this forum. Since then I've taken a step back and don't buy into a lot of the stuff nowadays. For me, it started to get silly when sandy hook victims were dismissed as crisis actors. Not to mention flat earth and anti-vax stuff. 

 

What you say about vaccines just isn't true. Scientists know a great deal on how vaccines work. Why do you think vaccines have been so successful? To focus on a couple of adverse reactions out of tens of thousands is disingenuous. It can only be made from a position of complete comfort in the 21st century. Try putting yourself a few hundreds years ago where polio, tb, meningitis, malaria, rickets, typhoid fever were rife. You would never make the same arguement. There's still plenty of work to do, malaria for example.

 

Again, the covid vaccines allows us to put our beliefs to the test. Either they're going to chip us/alter our DNA. Or they're not. We'll know in 6 months. 

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1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

If you look at the centres of the globalist conspiracy in britain then oxbridge is one of them for example oxford is rolling out a covid vaccine and oxford have just been caught sharing cutting edge technological secrets about quantum computing with the chinese

 

Oxford has also always been the recruiting ground of the intelligence services and in the cold war it was students from cambridge that made up the cambridge 5 spy ring that were passing secrets to the communist soviet

 

I think this is a wrong view of things.  What it misses is degeneration and corruption.

 

When you talk like you do it is as if you imagine a perfect world is somewhere hidden, or perfect people.  And it's a dream a wrong dream.

Everything has to be worked for or it degenerates.

Oxbridge and the UK institutions have had heydays where they have been very good and very powerful; today all academia are the birthing centres of evil that's true.

 

It is important to understand this because dreaming of utopia is wrong, it is useless.

 

We have to work to correct corruption and errors.  We have to straighten what is crooked, and restate the truth and the right way.

 

There is no utopia, there is just hard work and real knowledge of things.

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16 minutes ago, Free_your_mind said:

Since then I've taken a step back and don't buy into a lot of the stuff nowadays. For me, it started to get silly when sandy hook victims were dismissed as crisis actors. Not to mention flat earth and anti-vax stuff. 

 

What you say about vaccines just isn't true. Scientists know a great deal on how vaccines work. Why do you think vaccines have been so successful? To focus on a couple of adverse reactions out of tens of thousands is disingenuous. It can only be made from a position of complete comfort in the 21st century. Try putting yourself a few hundreds years ago where polio, tb, meningitis, malaria, rickets, typhoid fever were rife. You would never make the same arguement. There's still plenty of work to do, malaria for example.

 

Hello, @Free_your_mind 

Watch Vaxxed and more importantly vaxxed 2.  See the reality of vaccines.  Listen to the parents of children who were MURDERED.  
 

Also, hygiene changes coinciding with health improvement. 

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23 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

 

 

I think white supremacists are a very small minority and you have bought into the Jewish Hollywood, MSM and ZOG (Zionist Occupied Governments) lies.

 

Your avatar is free your mind. So free your mind and listen to this black artist with some truth about the Jewish hand.

 

 

 

Nice beat and decent flow. I was quite the fan of Jedi Mind Tricks but keep my distance now as some of their lyrics support jihad and violence against non-muslims. There's a lot to take from the video you posted, but he starts with 'long time the world's been run by a load of liars, how'd you expect me to believe in coronavirus'. I really don't understand the logic. He is saying that people in power have lied (true), so because of that he shouldn't believe in the existence of a virus. A virus is not political, it is part of nature. Yes, it can politicised, but that's no reason not to believe in its existence. The virus is being studied by thousands of scientists around the world. The scientists aren't in power so I don't know why he has linked the two in his opening lines. Scientists are just people doing a job. And from personal experience, quite smart people. And it's not as if this coronavirus has come out of nowhere and is the first of its kind. It it was, I would be more suspicious. But viruses have been studied for over a hundred years. We know of quite a few coronoviruses. We've got photographs of them! 

 

I listened to the whole video, but after the errors in his first sentence I'm not going to pay much atttenion to the rest. 

 

For a rapper that hits the nail on the head on most issues, I would stick to Akala.

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2 minutes ago, Michi713 said:

Hello, @Free_your_mind 

Watch Vaxxed and more importantly vaxxed 2.  See the reality of vaccines.  Listen to the parents of children who were MURDERED.  
 

Also, hygiene changes coinciding with health improvement. 

 

I'll check out the video. Murdered implies intent, surely you mean manslaughter?

 

I'm aware of the arguments that vaccines can cause damage and lead to negative side effects. But you're saying it's murder, as in they have planned to use vaccines to kill people on purpose?

 

That's quite off the scale and I think actually undermines some of the good points around vaccine safety concerns. 

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2 hours ago, rideforever said:

Today we have no caste system.  And so globalism and satanism is on the rise.

Because it is chaos.

 

Order means a "caste" system, meaning everyone knows their level and they work upwards.  The entire society is a chain leading upwards to the Light.  Someone who has ability a knowledge goes up.  Same principle as on a ship, 1 captain, 1 first mate, 1 quartermaster, 1 sailmaker, 50 'hands'.

 

The only thing English can do today is cut their dicks off and kneel for the black the brown the yellow the dogshit ... they can kneel before dogshit.

In Islington the NGO have made a whole economy on kneeling before nothing.

 

 


 

The reason humans can’t handle a proper caste system is because they have delusions of grandeur and equate other human beings to DOGSHIT instead of treating them like children of God.  Respect for fellow humans is honorable.  No one needs anyone’s sympathy nor their snotty disdain. 
 

 

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38 minutes ago, Michi713 said:

The reason humans can’t handle a proper caste system is because they have delusions of grandeur and equate other human beings to DOGSHIT instead of treating them like children of God.  Respect for fellow humans is honorable.  No one needs anyone’s sympathy nor their snotty disdain. 

 

Yes ... and things have gone very wrong there is so many agendas, so much distortion by the power groups and especially mostly coming from the degenerate drunk journalists who rule our world.

They rule our world far more than any institutional power structures.

Those drunk nobodies tell us all what to think and divide us so that there is no trust and without trust we do not trust ourselves our spouses or our teachers and so there is a break down of all communication.

Because parasites are in charge ... and the internet massively increases parasitism because I would say only if you are physically next to someone can you ever really trust them.

The internet is going to kill everyone.

Youtube/ FB/ Twitter ... they are all at war to twist things even more.

On youtube someone makes something and these vermin take their cut ... we are enslaved to these scum.

Meanwhile on youtube we are taught to hate the last group of power institutions like nations governments christianity.

It's madness.

The physical national structures are always 10x more reliable than floating internet pressure groups that change every few hours.... they push your buttons and after they have screwed you up, they vanish.

This is all evil.

 

The internet / urbanisation / mobile phones are behind many of our problems.

As we grow less and less trustfull we will hurt our nations and families and become more sick .... then the parasites more in to feed on dying human beings.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Free_your_mind said:

He is saying that people in power have lied (true), so because of that he shouldn't believe in the existence of a virus. A virus is not political, it is part of nature. Yes, it can politicised, but that's no reason not to believe in its existence.

 

The virus is being studied by thousands of scientists around the world. The scientists aren't in power so I don't know why he has linked the two in his opening lines. Scientists are just people doing a job. And from personal experience, quite smart people.

 

And it's not as if this coronavirus has come out of nowhere and is the first of its kind. It it was, I would be more suspicious. But viruses have been studied for over a hundred years. We know of quite a few coronoviruses. We've got photographs of them! 

 

 Get your coat now.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Immigration is not immigration ... it is the systemic destruction of the health and cohesiveness of society to enable the theft of everything they have.

Weaken every natural bond they have then you can steal it all.

And they particularly target weak groups who because they are weak will work as a Vth column ... politicians journalists and groups that are naturally sheeplike like the medical establishment.

It is quite amazing that white people can't say this is a white country of my ancestors and White is Right.

It is a lie and stinking lie.

I say that and I am not even from this country.  Well the Brits should wake up damn soon or it's over they will lose their island and race and blood.

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5 hours ago, Free_your_mind said:

You obviously have comprehensive knowledge on the globalist conspiracy. There is a single point of failure in the belief though as it all hinges on the initial assertion that thousands of years ago a secret cabal put in place the plans that are being played out today. All your logic follows from that one belief. It just so happens to be the hardest to find evidence for.

 

I don't think it is hard to find evidence for the existence of a secret society network that has been operating for centuries. It takes work to look at such a span of history though and to read it beyond the textbook dates and dry facts

 

5 hours ago, Free_your_mind said:

I'm fully aware of the ancient clues but I have come to the conclusion they are mostly symbolic. Man's relationship with reptiles is fascinating, and is more about the battle between mammals and reptiles during our early evolution. I would reccomend the book Dragons of Eden for more on this.

 

Where have i spoken about reptiles? All i have done is share a video that david posted by a jewish rabbi but that was to give someone davids perspective on that

 

5 hours ago, Free_your_mind said:

I was fully immersed into conspiracy theories 15 years ago and in this forum. Since then I've taken a step back and don't buy into a lot of the stuff nowadays. For me, it started to get silly when sandy hook victims were dismissed as crisis actors. Not to mention flat earth and anti-vax stuff.

 

Had you considered that there are some people who deliberately put disinfo out there to discredit the wider movement?

 

But logically speaking it is a logical fallacy to dismiss what everyone is saying on the basis of what some are saying. It might even be incorrect to dismiss everything an individual says if they got one thing wrong

 

The logical thing to do is assess each claim on its own merits.

 

5 hours ago, Free_your_mind said:

What you say about vaccines just isn't true. Scientists know a great deal on how vaccines work. Why do you think vaccines have been so successful?

 

No they really don't. I have posted a clip of a conference by WHO scientists where they admit that they don't really understand the mechanisms behind for example adjuvants (like aluminium)

 

Take this piece in rueters for example where a scientist who worked on SARS vaccines is warning about the mRNA vaccines being rolled out for covid 19 because he says that what they found was that they caused 'immune enhancement' which they don't fully understand:

 

Healthcare & Pharma
March 11, 202011:07 AMUpdated 9 months ago

As pressure for coronavirus vaccine mounts, scientists debate risks of accelerated testing

By Julie Steenhuysen

Studies have suggested that coronavirus vaccines carry the risk of what is known as vaccine enhancement, where instead of protecting against infection, the vaccine can actually make the disease worse when a vaccinated person is infected with the virus. The mechanism that causes that risk is not fully understood and is one of the stumbling blocks that has prevented the successful development of a coronavirus vaccine.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-vaccines-insight-idUSKBN20Y1GZ

 

 

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6 hours ago, Free_your_mind said:

 To focus on a couple of adverse reactions out of tens of thousands is disingenuous. It can only be made from a position of complete comfort in the 21st century.

 

I'm not just talking about a couple of adverse reactions. I'm talking about a whole raft of chronic health problems that are caused by vaccines. In the industry any knock on effects are called 'non specific effects' and what i'm saying is that in order for the science to be accurate we need a full assessment of the ALL of the non specific effects caused by vaccines

 

For example if you take a vaccine because you want to develop antibodies against measles but the vaccine gives you a non specific effect of say asthma for the rest of your life then there is a big question mark over whether or not the cost to benefit ration was worth it

 

What i'm saying is that in order to make that judgement we need all the data. i'll give you an example. It was only in 2015 that a study made a breakthrough discovery about how the brain actually functions.

 

A new study has shown that the brain is not immunologically separate from the rest of the body as previously assumed (see Louveau 2015 PMID 26030524). This finding will require an entirely new look at brain function from the medical fraternity and the latest thought on vaccine function may not be up to date with this latest research.

The reasoning for this is that concentrations of aluminium have been found to increase as the arteries get closer to the brain (Battarcharjee). This is because aluminium is attracted to the brain and is carried across the blood brain barrier by macrophages.

 

Now even though studies are demonstrating that aluminium can cross the brain barrier the vaccine industry is still churning out vaccines using aluminium as an adjuvant and governments ae permitting their useage. But now the WHO scientists are themselves admitting that the adjuvants being used ar causing problems. But at what point do i get an acknowledgment for being right?

 

Scientists Question Safety of Vaccines (WHO Global Vaccine Safety Summit December 2019)

0.29 seconds ''without good science we can't have good communication''

If you don't have the 'science' then why are you rolling out vaccines on a massive scale?

 

0.58 seconds ''we really don't have good safety monitoring systems''

If you don't have good safety monitoring systems then how can you assess if the vaccines are safe or not?

 

1 minute 10 seconds ''we are not able to give clear cut answers about the deaths that have occurred with particular vaccines''

If your vaccines are killing people and you can't understand why then why are you using them?

 

1 minute 20 seconds ''there is some obfuscation at that level''

If you are about 'science' then why would you hide anything? Surely you should lay all the facts on the table so that science can be more accurate. By failing to do that you are anti-science

 

1.57 ''how do we build confidence in this?''

If you have identified that the ADJUVANTS eg aluminium are toxic to health then the question is not how you get people to maintain confidence in a toxic product the question is how you make your product non toxic or you remove it from the market altogether. Why would you look to build confidence in a product that you know is causing harm?

 

2 minutes 50 seconds ''[adjuvants] multiply the reactogenicity, in many instances, and therefore it seems to me that it is not unexpected if they multiply the incidence of adverse reactions that are associated with the antigen, but may not have been detected through lack of statistical power in the original studies''

If your studies lack the necessary data to identify the risks involved in your vaccine then how can you then make an accurate cost to benefit analysis? If they are causing adverse reactions and you don't fully understand why then why are you not pulling the products off the market and why did you use them in the first place?

 

3.20 you say you see local reactogenicity immediately after the vaccine is applied and therefore accept those as vaccine induced adverse reactions and yet sound dismissive of more long term effects which you describe as 'accusations'; that smacks of criminally negligent irresponsibility to me

 

5.07 ''better mechanistic understandings of how these things work''

if you don't understand the mechanisms of your own vaccines then why would you ever inject them not a live human being as you can't be sure what impact that will have on them? You are essentially using people as your guinea pigs

 

5.18 ''if you struggle with the length of follow up''

So you are admitting that you do not look at the long term impacts on the people you vaccinate

 

5.35 ''its also the subject population that you administer the adjuvant to...''

Yes that is why applying a one size fits all approach to medicine is deeply flawed and dangerous and criminally irresponsible

 

6.18 ''a child is being given different antigens from different companies, and these vaccines have different adjuvants and preservatives and so on....something crosses my mind...is there a possibility of these adjuvants, preservatives cross-reacting amongst themselves?''

Yes of course there is. There is also the possibility that vaccine ingredients could react synergistically with other environmental factors such as fluoride, glyphosate and even microwaves, so you have to ask yourself why this doesn't 'cross the mind' of the scientists who make the vaccines and the doctors who administer them? Are they retards or criminals?

 

6.36 ''has there ever been a study on the possibility of cross-reactions?''

 

from 6.48 Dr Chen then goes on to admit that they lack that data and want to give people barcodes which is an admission that upto now they haven't studied the possibility of cross-reactivity and also that even if they create barcodes and use them to look into that the people who are vaccinated during that time will still not have the protection of the knowledge of those studies and will be guinea pigs demonstrating that they are knowingly flying blind

 

7.40 Dr Chen welcomes the emergence of 'large data sets' which means large amounts of people who are acting as guinea pigs

 

8.47 ''in medical school you are lucky if you have a half day on vaccines''

If doctors are lucky to have a half day on vaccines then isn't it about time that we stopped referring to them as 'experts' on the subject of vaccines? I have had more than a half day on vaccines therefore i am more of an expert on vaccines than the GP's who are so eager to inject them into our children

 

 

6 hours ago, Free_your_mind said:

Try putting yourself a few hundreds years ago where polio, tb, meningitis, malaria, rickets, typhoid fever were rife. You would never make the same arguement. There's still plenty of work to do, malaria for example.

 

Posted by Jon Rappoport Posted on 13 December 2020

COVID vaccine—history matters

Now that governments are going to roll out “a vaccine to save the world” (see here and here), people should become aware of a history they don’t know exists.

The article below was a small section of my book, AIDS INC., which I wrote in 1987-8. At the time, I decided to take a look at vaccines and see what I could find out about them.

My ensuing research led me into all sorts of surprising areas.

Since the period of 1987-8, much more has come to light about vaccine safety and efficacy. Here is what I discovered way back when—


“The combined death rate from scarlet fever, diphtheria, whooping cough and measles among children up to fifteen shows that nearly 90 percent of the total decline in mortality between 1860 and 1965 had occurred before the introduction of antibiotics and widespread immunization. In part, this recession may be attributed to improved housing and to a decrease in the virulence of micro-organisms, but by far the most important factor was a higher host-resistance due to better nutrition.” Ivan Illich, Medical Nemesis, Bantam Books, 1977

“In a recent British outbreak of whooping cough, for example, even fully immunized children contracted the disease in fairly large numbers; and the rates of serious complications and death were reduced only slightly. In another recent outbreak of pertussis, 46 of the 85 fully immunized children studied eventually contracted the disease.

“In 1977, 34 new cases of measles were reported on the campus of UCLA, in a population that was supposedly 91% immune, according to careful serological testing. Another 20 cases of measles were reported in the Pecos, New Mexico, area within a period of a few months in 1981, and 75% of them had been fully immunized, some of them quite recently. A survey of sixth-graders in a well-immunized urban community revealed that about 15% of this age group are still susceptible to rubella, a figure essentially identical with that of the pre-vaccine era.” Richard Moskowitz, MD, The Case Against Immunizations, 1983, American Institute of Homeopathy.

“Of all reported whooping cough cases between 1979 and 1984 in children over 7 months of age – that is, old enough to have received the primary course of the DPT shots (diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus) – 41% occurred in children who had received three or more shots and 22% in children who had one or two immunizations.

“Among children under 7 months of age who had whooping cough, 34% had been immunized between one and three times…

“… Based on the only U.S. findings on adverse DPT reactions, an FDA-financed study at the University of California, Los Angeles, one out of every 350 children will have a convulsion; one in 180 children will experience high-pitched screaming; and one in 66 will have a fever of 105 degrees or more.” Jennifer Hyman, Democrat and Chronicle, Rochester, New York, special supplement on DPT, dated April, 1987.

“A study undertaken in 1979 at the University of California, Los Angeles, under the sponsorship of the Food and Drug Administration, and which has been confirmed by other studies, indicates that in the U.S.A. approximately 1,000 infants die annually as a direct result of DPT vaccinations, and these are classified as SIDS (Sudden Infant Death Syndrome) deaths. These represent about 10 to 15% of the total number of SIDS deaths occurring annually in the U.S.A. (between 8,000 and 10,000 depending on which statistics are used).” Leon Chaitow, Vaccination and Immunization, CW Daniel Company Limited, Saffron Walden, Essex, England, 1987.

“Assistant Secretary of Health Edward Brandt, Jr., MD, testifying before the U.S. Senate Committee on Labor and Human Resources, rounded… figures off to 9,000 cases of convulsions, 9,000 cases of collapse, and 17,000 cases of high-pitched screaming for a total of 35,000 acute neurological reactions occurring within forty-eight hours of a DPT shot among America’s children every year.” DPT: A Shot in the Dark, by Harris L. Coulter and Barbara Loe Fischer, Harcourt Brace Jovanovich.

“While 70-80% of British children were immunized against pertussis in 1970-71, the rate is now 39%. The committee predicts that the next pertussis epidemic will probably turn out to be more severe than the one in 1974/75. However, they do not explain why, in 1970/71, there were more than 33,000 cases of pertussis with 41 fatal cases among the very well immunized British child population; whereas in 1974/75, with a declining rate of vaccination, a pertussis epidemic caused only 25,000 cases with 25 fatalities.” Wolfgang Ehrengut, Lancet, Feb. 18, 1978, p. 370.

“… Barker and Pichichero, in a prospective study of 1232 children in Denver, Colorado, found after DTP that only 7% of those vaccinated were free from untoward reactions, which included pyrexia (53%), acute behavioral changes (82%), prolonged screaming (13%), and listlessness, anorexia and vomiting. 71% of those receiving second injections of DTP experienced two or more of the reactions monitored.” Lancet, May 28, 1983, p. 1217

“Publications by the World Health Organization show that diphtheria is steadily declining in most European countries, including those in which there has been no immunization. The decline began long before vaccination was developed. There is certainly no guarantee that vaccination will protect a child against the disease; in fact, over 30,000 cases of diphtheria have been recorded in the United Kingdom in fully immunized children.” Leon Chaitow, Vaccination and Immunization, p. 58.

“Pertussis (whooping cough) immunization is controversial, as the side effects have received a great deal of publicity. The counter claim is that the effectiveness and protection offered by the procedure far outweigh the possible ill effects… annual deaths, per million children, from this disease over the period from 1900 to the mid-nineteen seventies, shows that from a high point of just under 900 deaths per million children (under age 15) in 1905, the decline has been consistent and dramatic. There had been a lowering of mortality rates of approximately 80% by the time immunization was introduced on a mass scale, in the mid-nineteen fifties. The decline has continued, albeit at a slower rate, ever since. No credit can be given to vaccination for the major part of the decline since it was not in use.” Chaitow, Vaccination and Immunization, p. 63.

“… the swine-flu vaccination program was one of its (CDC) greatest blunders. It all began in 1976 when CDC scientists saw that a virus involved in a flu attack outbreak at Fort Dix, N.J., was similar to the swine-flu virus that killed 500,000 Americans in 1918. Health officials immediately launched a 100-million dollar program to immunize every American. But the expected epidemic never materialized, and the vaccine led to partial paralysis in 532 people. There were 32 deaths.” U.S. News and World Report, Joseph Carey, October 14, 1985, p. 70, “How Medical Sleuths Track Killer Diseases.”

“Despite (cases) in which (smallpox) vaccination plainly failed to protect the population, and despite the rampant side-effects of the methods, the proponents of vaccination continued their attempts to justify the methods by claims that the disease had declined in Europe as a whole during the period of its compulsory use. If the decline could be correlated with the use of the vaccination, then all else could be set aside, and the advantage between its current low incidence could be shown to outweigh the periodic failures of the method, and to favour the continued use of vaccination. However, the credit for the decline in the incidence of smallpox could not be given to vaccination. The fact is that its incidence declined in all parts of Europe, whether or not vaccination was employed.” Chaitow, Vaccination and Immunization, pp. 6-7.

“Smallpox, like typhus, has been dying out (in England) since 1780. Vaccination in this country has largely fallen into disuse since people began to realize how its value was discredited by the great smallpox epidemic of 1871-2 (which occurred after extensive vaccination).” W. Scott Webb, A Century of Vaccination, Swan Sonnenschein, 1898.

“In this incident (Kyoto, Japan, 1948) – the most serious of its kind – a toxic (vaccine) batch of alum-precipitated toxoid (APT) was responsible for illness in over 600 infants and for no fewer than 68 deaths.

“On 20 and 22 October, 1948, a large number of babies and children in the city of Kyoto received their first injection of APT. On the 4th and 5th of November, 15,561 babies and children aged some months to 13 years received their second dose. One to two days later, 606 of those who had been injected fell ill. Of these, 9 died of acute diphtheritic paralysis in seven to fourteen days, and 59 of late paralysis mainly in four to seven weeks.” Sir Graham Wilson, Hazards of Immunization, Athone Press, University of London, 1967.

“Accidents may, however, follow the use of this so-called killed (rabies) vaccine owing to inadequate processing. A very serious occurrence of this sort occurred at Fortaleza, Ceara, Brazil, in 1960. No fewer than 18 out of 66 persons vaccinated with Fermi’s carbolized (rabies) vaccine suffered from encephalomyelitis and every one of the eighteen died.” Sir Graham Wilson, Hazards of Immunization.

“At a press conference in Washington on 24 July, 1942, the Secretary of War reported that 28,585 cases of jaundice had been observed in the (American) Army between 1 January and 4 July after yellow fever vaccination, and of these 62 proved fatal.” Sir Graham Wilson, Hazards of Immunization.

“The world’s biggest trial (conducted in south India) to assess the value of BCG tuberculosis vaccine has made the startling revelation that the vaccine ‘does not give any protection against bacillary forms of tuberculosis.’ The study said to be ‘most exhaustive and meticulous,’ was launched in 1968 by the Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR) with assistance from the World Health Organization (WHO) and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta, Georgia.

“The incidence of new cases among the BCG vaccinated group was slightly (but statistically insignificantly) higher than in the control group, a finding that led to the conclusion that BCG’s protective effect ‘was zero.’” New Scientist, November 15, 1979, as quoted by Hans Ruesch in Naked Empress, Civis Publishers, Switzerland, 1982.

“Between 10 December 1929 and 30 April 1930, 251 of 412 infants born in Lubeck received three doses of BCG vaccine by the mouth during the first ten days of life. Of these 251, 72 died of tuberculosis, most of them in two to five months and all but one before the end of the first year. In addition, 135 suffered from clinical tuberculosis but eventually recovered; and 44 became tuberculin-positive but remained well. None of the 161 unvaccinated infants born at the time was affected in this way and none of these died of tuberculosis within the following three years.” Hazards of Immunization, Wilson.

“We conducted a randomized double-blind placebo-controlled trial to test the efficacy of the 14-valent pneumococcal capsular polysaccharide vaccine in 2295 high-risk patients… Seventy-one episodes of proved or probable pneumococcal pneumonia or bronchitis occurred among 63 of the patients (27 placebo recipients and 36 vaccine recipients)… We were unable to demonstrate any efficacy of the pneumococcal vaccine in preventing pneumonia or bronchitis in this population.” New England Journal of Medicine, November 20, 1986, p. 1318, Michael Simberkoff et al.

“But already before Salk developed his vaccine, polio had been constantly regressing; the 39 cases out of every 100,000 inhabitants registered in 1942 had gradually diminished from year to year until they were reduced to only 15 cases in 1952… according to M. Beddow Baylay, the English surgeon and medical historian.” Slaughter of the Innocent, Hans Reusch, Civitas Publishers, Switzerland, and Swain, New York, 1983.

“Many published stories and reports have stated, implied and otherwise led professional people and the public to believe that the sharp reduction of cases (and of deaths) from poliomyelitis in 1955 as compared to 1954 is attributable to the Salk vaccine… That it is a misconception follows from these considerations. The number of children inoculated has been too small to account for the decrease. The sharp decrease was apparent before the inoculations began or could take effect and was of the same order as the decrease following the immediate post-inoculation period.” Dr. Herbert Ratner, Child and Family, vol. 20, no. 1, 1987.

“So far it is hardly possible to gain insight into the extent of the immunization catastrophe of 1955 in the United States. It may be considered certain that the officially ascertained 200 cases (of polio) which were caused directly or indirectly by the (polio) vaccination constitute minimum figures… It can hardly be estimated how many of the 1359 (polio) cases among vaccinated persons must be regarded as failures of the vaccine and how many of them were infected by the vaccine. A careful study of the epidemiologic course of polio in the United States yields indications of grave significance. In numerous states of the U.S.A., typical early epidemics developed with the immunizations in the spring of 1955… The vaccination incidents of the year 1955 cannot be exclusively traced back to the failure of one manufacturing firm.” Dr. Herbert Ratner, Child and Family, 1980, vol. 19, no. 4, “Story of the Salk Vaccine (Part 2).”

“Suffice it to say that most of the large (polio) epidemics that have occurred in this country since the introduction of the Salk vaccine have followed the wide-scale use of the vaccine and have been characterized by an uncommon early seasonal onset. To name a few, there is the Massachusetts epidemic of 1955; the Chicago epidemic of 1956; and the Des Moines epidemic of 1959.” Dr. Herbert Ratner, Child and Family, 1980 vol. 19, no. 4.

“The live (Sabin) poliovirus vaccine has been the predominant cause of domestically arising cases of paralytic poliomyelitis in the United States since 1972. To avoid the occurrence of such cases, it would be necessary to discontinue the routine use of live poliovirus vaccine.” Jonas Salk, Science, March 4, 1977, p. 845.

“By the (U.S.) government’s own admission, there has been a 41% failure rate in persons who were previously vaccinated against the (measles) virus.” Dr. Anthony Morris, John Chriss, BG Young, “Occurrence of Measles in Previously Vaccinated Individuals,” 1979; presented at a meeting of the American Society for Microbiology at Fort Detrick, Maryland, April 27, 1979.

“Prior to the time doctors began giving rubella (German measles) vaccinations, an estimated 85% of adults were naturally immune to the disease (for life). Because of immunization, the vast majority of women never acquire natural immunity (or lifetime protection).” Dr. Robert Mendelsohn, Let’s Live, December 1983, as quoted by Carolyn Reuben in the LA WEEKLY, June 28, 1985.

“Adminstration of KMV (killed measles vaccine) apparently set in motion an aberrant immunologic response that not only failed to protect children against natural measles, but resulted in heightened susceptibility.” JAMA Aug. 22, 1980, vol. 244, p. 804, Vincent Fulginiti and Ray Helfer. The authors indicate that such falsely protected children can come down with “an often severe, atypical form of measles. Atypical measles is characterized by fever, headache… and a diverse rash (which)… may consist of a mixture of macules, papules, vesicles, and pustules… ”


The above quotes reflect only a mere fraction of an available literature which shows there is a need for an extensive review of vaccination. It is certain that undisclosed, unlooked for illness occurs as a result of vaccines, or as a result of infection after protective immunity should have been conferred but wasn’t. A certain amount of this sort of illness is immunosuppressive in the widest sense, and some in a narrower sense (depression of T-cell numbers, etc.). When looking for unusual illness and immune depression, vaccines are one of those areas which remain partially hidden from investigation. That is a mistake. It is not adequate to say, “Vaccines are simple; they stimulate the immune system and confer immunity against specific germ agents.” That is the glossy presentation. What vaccines often do is something else. They engage some aspect of the body’s immune-response, but to what effect over the long term? Why, for example, do children who have measles vaccine develop a susceptibility to another more severe, atypical measles? Is that virulent form of the disease the result of reactivation of the virus in the vaccine?

Official reports on vaccine reactions are often at odds with unofficial estimates because of the method of analysis used. If vaccine-reaction is defined as a small set of possible effects experienced within 72 hours of an inoculation, then figures will be smaller. But doctors like G.T. Stewart, of the University of Glasgow, have found through meticulous investigation, including visits to hospitals and interviews with parents of vaccinated children, that reactions as severe as brain-damage (e.g., from the DPT vaccine) can be overlooked, go unreported and can be assumed mistakenly to have come from other causes.

https://davidicke.com/2020/12/13/covid-vaccine-history-matters/

 

 

6 hours ago, Free_your_mind said:

Again, the covid vaccines allows us to put our beliefs to the test. Either they're going to chip us/alter our DNA. Or they're not. We'll know in 6 months. 

 

12/11/20

Yes, Bill Gates Said That. Here’s the Proof.

Gates and his minions insist the billionaire never said we’d need digital vaccine passports. But in a June 2020 TED Talk, Gates said exactly that. Someone edited out the statement, but CHD tracked down the original.

By Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.

Some chiseler altered Bill Gates’ June 2020 TED Talk to edit out his revealing prediction that we will all soon need digital vaccine passports (slide 1). But after considerable effort, we tracked down the original video (slide 2). 

Gates’ minions on cable and network news, his public broadcasting, social media and fact-checker toadies all now insist that Gates never said such things. They say he never intended to track and trace us with subdermal chips or injected tattoos.

They dismiss such talk as “conspiracy theories.”

Well, here it is from the horse’s mouth.

In 2019, according to a not-yet-purged Scientific American article, Gates commissioned the Massachusetts Institute of Technology to build an injectable quantum dot dye system to tattoo stored medical info beneath children’s skin. The tattoo was designed to be readable by an iPhone app.

Gates’ company, Microsoft, has patented a sinister technology that uses implanted chips with sensors that will monitor body and brain activity. It promises to reward compliant humans with crypto currency payments when they perform assigned activities.

Gates also invested approximately $20 million in MicroCHIPS, a company that makes chip-based devices, including birth-control implant chips with wireless on/off switches for remote-controlled drug-delivery by medical authorities.

In July 2019, months before the COVID pandemic, Gates bought 3.7M shares of Serco, a military contractor with U.S. and UK government contracts to track and trace pandemic infections and vaccine compliance.

To facilitate our transition to his surveillance society, Gates invested $1 billion in EarthNow, which promises to blanket the globe in 5G video surveillance satellites. EarthNow will launch 500 satellites allowing governments and large enterprises to live-stream monitor almost every “corner” of the Earth, providing instantaneous video feedback with one-second delay. 

The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation also acquired 5.3 million shares of Crown Castle, which owns 5G spy antennas including more than 40,000 cell towers and 65,000 small cells. 

 

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/yes-bill-gates-said-that/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=f0fa2f24-a6d5-49f8-9b62-78038da8ccdd

 

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