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16 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

In some ways yes, and in others no. Being part of a tribe doesn't mean you can't have your own personality. A tribe is still made up of multiple individuals.

I am a biological product of my ancestors, yes, and that's as far as it goes for me. Apart from that, I am my inner being, which is timeless and does not originate from the material world... the world of the 5 senses. The world is a just a place to pass through. If people want to believe they are actually what the tribe says they are or be part of the hive mind, that's okay, but I've long since gone beyond that illusory reality.

 

 

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29 minutes ago, Firebird said:

Rootless cosmopolitanism and New Age spirituality go hand in hand. I suppose being rootless is ''proof'' or practising ''detachment'' and becoming a Buddha, LOL.

Everything that you are is already within you. You don't have to look outside of yourself to define who you are, but if that's what you want to do, then that's your journey.

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40 minutes ago, RobSS said:

I am a biological product of my ancestors, yes, and that's as far as it goes for me. Apart from that, I am my inner being, which is timeless and does not originate from the material world... the world of the 5 senses. The world is a just a place to pass through. If people want to believe they are actually what the tribe says they are or be part of the hive mind, that's okay, but I've long since gone beyond that illusory reality.

 

Why do you assume wanting to feel a sense of belonging and to be part of something that is bigger than you is a hive mindset? The hive are the ones that go along with whatever ever new age nonsense they're told like weaklings, not the traditionalists that still want kinship.

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1 hour ago, RobSS said:

Everything that you are is already within you. You don't have to look outside of yourself to define who you are, but if that's what you want to do, then that's your journey.

 

Maybe make a thread on it elsewhere. It's getting really offtopic now, and it feels like New Age proselytizing to me. Lets get back to the topic of the anti-white agenda.

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1 hour ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

Is it not natural survival instinct to group up with people that are like you? Why would I want to subvert what is natural?

 

We see that everywhere. Many white people are no longer aware of it because development / materialism / consumerism. Meanwhile, Chinese, Indians, etc. are developing a sense of nation building. That's because they're experiencing growth but I can imagine they'll get to that point eventually.

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Just now, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

Why do assume wanting to feel a sense of belonging and to be part of something that is bigger than you is a hive mindset? The hive are the ones that go along with whatever ever new age nonsense they're told like weaklings, not the traditionalists that still want kinship.

What New Age stuff are you referring to?

 

Why is wanting to be part of something bigger than yourself not part of the hive mindset? Some people chose religion or a political party, others chose ancestors and their racial tribe. These are all outside choices, but if that's the choice you want to make, then that will be your journey.

 

Personally, I choose to rely on my own inner resources. It's not easy but the greater the struggle, the greater the reward of inner strength and understanding of who I am, and not living up to expectations of what other people, who are outside of myself, think I should be.

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4 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

Is it not natural survival instinct to group up with people that are like you? Why would I want to subvert what is natural?

How do you define natural? Is natural only dependent on the instincts. IMO, it's also natural to want to go beyond 5 sense reality and join dots that might not otherwise have been joined. So natural doesn't have to be defined strictly within what the 5 senses can experience.

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5 minutes ago, Firebird said:

 

Maybe make a thread on it elsewhere. It's getting really offtopic now, and it feels like New Age proselytizing to me. Lets get back to the topic of the anti-white agenda.

Why is it New Age? The topic of this thread is a question? I think it's a valid question but it's also a question that should make us examine who we are and how we're connected to each other.

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1 minute ago, RobSS said:

What New Age stuff are you referring to?

 

All this wishy washy talk that leads people to their doom.

 

Individualism is healthy, but hyper-individualism that is promoted to white folks, while everyone else is encouraged to be a collective, that is dangerous.

 

Would you tell uprooted peoples from other groups in the past to stop thinking about the tribe and demography? I hope not.

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6 minutes ago, Firebird said:

 

We see that everywhere. Many white people are no longer aware of it because development / materialism / consumerism. Meanwhile, Chinese, Indians, etc. are developing a sense of nation building. That's because they're experiencing growth but I can imagine they'll get to that point eventually.

Can you elaborate on "nation building"? Are they developing free and open societies. In the case of the Chinese, they have a totalitarian regime - a good example of hive mind building if ever I saw one.

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2 minutes ago, RobSS said:

Can you elaborate on "nation building"? Are they developing free and open societies. In the case of the Chinese, they have a totalitarian regime - a good example of hive mind building if ever I saw one.

 

I don't think it's their tribal attitude that makes them totalitarian though. China destroyed a lot of their history and tradition during their "great leap forward", did they not? Is that not a severing of their roots, so they forget who they are?

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2 minutes ago, RobSS said:

Can you elaborate on "nation building"? Are they developing free and open societies. In the case of the Chinese, they have a totalitarian regime - a good example of hive mind building if ever I saw one.

 

Hive mind building...

 

 

 

 

... just sayin ;-)

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2 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

All this wishy washy talk that leads people to their doom.

 

Individualism is healthy, but hyper-individualism that is promoted to white folks, while everyone else is encouraged to be a collective, that is dangerous.

 

Would you tell uprooted peoples from other groups in the past to stop thinking about the tribe and demography? I hope not.

I would tell people who feel uprooted to start being creative and create their own reality, which is why immigrants often do better than indigenous people, because out of struggles can come great survival skills. Of course it's not always the case but learning to survive on one's own inner resources leads to a more wholesome life than on that is always told what to do, or someone who just does what their ancestors expect of them without question.

 

Would you describe this quote from David Icke as "wishy washy"?


 

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"There is a field of consciousness that connects everything, so it doesn't matter if you're black, white, Asian, Chinese, Aboriginal... it doesn't matter what your form is... YOU are part of the same consciousness. YOU are just a unique expression of it, and that perception that we're all connected immediately starts dropping the fault lines the cult is desperate to perpetuate, so that different versions of form can be played off against each other.

 

You're seeing this so plainly with the cult owned BLM and all the things that go with that, where you take groups and you play them off against each other... when those groups are made up of individuals and those individuals are all part of the same consciousness, ultimately.

 

So, the idea of the cult is to hold you in five sense perception because then, all these things that suit the cult, the way that people see the world is absolutely what unfolds from that. What they don't want is awakening people to see what others can't see... not because they're better than others, but because they've opened their mind and allowed other levels of reality in to their perceptions, and so we've reached this point now, where that is so plain, well, in-your-face doesn't even cut it. You've got the five senses asleep who just believe whatever information is fed to them. They're not processing information, they're just downloading it. They're not taking various bits of information and reaching unique conclusions, they're simply downloading their perceptions."

 

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2 minutes ago, RobSS said:

I would tell people who feel uprooted to start being creative and create their own reality, which is why immigrants often do better than indigenous people, because out of struggles can come great survival skills. Of course it's not always the case but learning to survive on one's own inner resources leads to a more wholesome life than on that is always told what to do, or someone who just does what their ancestors expect of them without question.

 

Would you describe this quote from David Icke as "wishy washy"?


 

 

 

When Icke leaves the wishy washy stuff out of his lectures and sticks to the real world issues, they are much more practicle for a general audience to digest. Good example below:

 

 

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3 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

And maybe new age isn't the right term, maybe postmodernist is more apt, as it's mainly folks suffering from the ills of modernity that think like this, but they're a minority that would be unrecognizable to most of their ancestors.

Why do you have define yourself by who our ancestors were? I'm doing very well not having to worry about all that. I was brought up as a Jehovah's witness and many of the tactics they used to keep me in the fold are not that dissimilar to people that I speak to that try to convince me that I need to be part of racial tribe. They say you can't survive with that racial identity. The JW's said I couldn't survive not being a JW, but I'm surviving ery well not being a JW and not living up to being accepted in a racial tribe. Why crave after something that's outside of yourself in an external group when God already gave you everything that's already deep within you?

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3 minutes ago, RobSS said:

Would you describe this quote from David Icke as "wishy washy"?

 

David often makes it clear that he doesn't expect everyone to agree with him on everything, and often says he just wants people to use their brains and think.

 

If all Icke followers thought the same as him on everything then that would be like a hive mentality.

 

I don't agree with everything my tribe says either, which is why I say that being part of a group doesn't mean you can't have an individual personality.

 

Anyway, this is getting way too off-topic I feel.

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2 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

Where did I say I did? I said I'm the culmination of them, not that I share their views on everything.

So, "being the culmination of them" - what exactly does that mean? Is that not wishy washy?

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4 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

David often makes it clear that he doesn't expect everyone to agree with him on everything, and often says he just wants people to use their brains and think.

 

If all Icke followers thought the same as him on everything then that would be like a hive mentality.

 

I don't agree with everything my tribe says either, which is why I say that being part of a group doesn't mean you can't have an individual personality.

 

Anyway, this is getting way too off-topic I feel.

So which part of the quote do you disagree with and why?

 

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"There is a field of consciousness that connects everything, so it doesn't matter if you're black, white, Asian, Chinese, Aboriginal... it doesn't matter what your form is... YOU are part of the same consciousness. YOU are just a unique expression of it, and that perception that we're all connected immediately starts dropping the fault lines the cult is desperate to perpetuate, so that different versions of form can be played off against each other.

 

You're seeing this so plainly with the cult owned BLM and all the things that go with that, where you take groups and you play them off against each other... when those groups are made up of individuals and those individuals are all part of the same consciousness, ultimately.

 

So, the idea of the cult is to hold you in five sense perception because then, all these things that suit the cult, the way that people see the world is absolutely what unfolds from that. What they don't want is awakening people to see what others can't see... not because they're better than others, but because they've opened their mind and allowed other levels of reality in to their perceptions, and so we've reached this point now, where that is so plain, well, in-your-face doesn't even cut it. You've got the five senses asleep who just believe whatever information is fed to them. They're not processing information, they're just downloading it. They're not taking various bits of information and reaching unique conclusions, they're simply downloading their perceptions."

 

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