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mollymag5 Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 I am not a European and I have read this thread with interest. There is no doubt that you Europeans are experiencing some major changes. You are being colonized. And maybe this is a sort of karma after you (historically) set out around the world colonizing others and in some cases seriously damaging indigenous people. Maybe this is some of your own medicine. I don't expect this to be a popular view, but I live in what was once a colony and I have first hand evidence of what the English and French colonizers did to the First Nations people. Hand in hand with their churches, the colonizers genocided children and ripped up the social fabric of the established people. Maybe you are getting some idea of how that feels. Good luck with it as the First Nations people of North America didn't do well in the face of the blue-eyed enemy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weedo Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 54 minutes ago, mollymag5 said: I am not a European and I have read this thread with interest. There is no doubt that you Europeans are experiencing some major changes. You are being colonized. And maybe this is a sort of karma after you (historically) set out around the world colonizing others and in some cases seriously damaging indigenous people. Maybe this is some of your own medicine. I don't expect this to be a popular view, but I live in what was once a colony and I have first hand evidence of what the English and French colonizers did to the First Nations people. Hand in hand with their churches, the colonizers genocided children and ripped up the social fabric of the established people. Maybe you are getting some idea of how that feels. Good luck with it as the First Nations people of North America didn't do well in the face of the blue-eyed enemy. Yeah apparently the biggest massacre and ethnic cleansing that ever happened was that of your people, as well as the millions of bisons that were killed for no thee reason than taking away any livelihood and independence for the non Rothschild finance system dependent people. I don't know how accurate this is, but it must be close, as natives are now a tiny minority in their own country, and that includes places like Australia as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 1 hour ago, mollymag5 said: I am not a European and I have read this thread with interest. There is no doubt that you Europeans are experiencing some major changes. You are being colonized. And maybe this is a sort of karma after you (historically) set out around the world colonizing others and in some cases seriously damaging indigenous people. Maybe this is some of your own medicine. I don't expect this to be a popular view, but I live in what was once a colony and I have first hand evidence of what the English and French colonizers did to the First Nations people. Hand in hand with their churches, the colonizers genocided children and ripped up the social fabric of the established people. Maybe you are getting some idea of how that feels. Good luck with it as the First Nations people of North America didn't do well in the face of the blue-eyed enemy. Britain was one of the 1st colonies under the Roman empire, After that the Normans. Like basic history. Yes we were enslaved long before you. Google: Serfdom. The same people ruling over us are now turning the world into a global plantation. Your people wont be welcome & moved into the super cities. Keep on buying the woke shit the Neo feudalist feed you for divide & conquer. Yes indigenous welcomed their invaders, just like they are doing Dover, like nly 500 people in one day & like them people arnt going to work for cheaper & with zero contract & do the things i.e. police state boot stomping, indigenous arnt willing to do to their own. Say anything & you are a racist. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 (edited) There is literally a group of people that it is becoming increasingly harder to criticize, and they have written pieces about how they're the biggest mass murderers in history. Where is their karmic justice? How comes it's the regular British folks under attack, but not those that have been occupying us since 1066 if it's about karma? How comes history is full of stories of conquest, but hypocrites only started complaining when the white man started doing it too? Edit: And that's not a dig at anyone, I don't mind if people think it's about karma, but I won't believe it unless karma is dished out evenly. Edited July 20, 2021 by EnigmaticWorld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skitzorat Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 13 hours ago, Weedo said: Yeah apparently the biggest massacre and ethnic cleansing that ever happened was that of your people, as well as the millions of bisons that were killed for no thee reason than taking away any livelihood and independence for the non Rothschild finance system dependent people. I don't know how accurate this is, but it must be close, as natives are now a tiny minority in their own country, and that includes places like Australia as well. That poster you post with such matter-of-factness is not true. Most of that "100M" of The peoples native to the America continents died of diseases; not purposely inflicted- that tired old trope about smallpox blankets is dead in the water considering it supposedly happened before germ theory was even a thing...(it was also said to have happened to the Maori of NZ) besides there's new evidence that TB spread from infected seals before major colonisation even started.. https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2014/08/seals-infected-early-americans-tuberculosis Furthermore, if another part of the world that wasn't Europe, say the Ottomans or if China hadn't decided to be so insular, no one can say in all honesty they wouldn't have done exactly the same thing as the early European settlers of the New World....Chinese were brutal to "others" the Ottomans were brutal to "others". The biggest REAL mass killing of a specific group of peoples were the White Christian Russians/Slavs by the Bolsheviks with Mao killing his own coming a close second. I'm not saying the Peoples of the Americas were not brutalised and demographically destroyed, but in those days, as from days of old, that's what happened....and other world Power at the time would have done the same thing if they'd be as advanced in technology and decided to use it to explore and then colonise the planet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weedo Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 12 hours ago, skitzorat said: That poster you post with such matter-of-factness is not true. Most of that "100M" of The peoples native to the America continents died of diseases; not purposely inflicted- that tired old trope about smallpox blankets is dead in the water considering it supposedly happened before germ theory was even a thing...(it was also said to have happened to the Maori of NZ) besides there's new evidence that TB spread from infected seals before major colonisation even started.. https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2014/08/seals-infected-early-americans-tuberculosis Furthermore, if another part of the world that wasn't Europe, say the Ottomans or if China hadn't decided to be so insular, no one can say in all honesty they wouldn't have done exactly the same thing as the early European settlers of the New World....Chinese were brutal to "others" the Ottomans were brutal to "others". The biggest REAL mass killing of a specific group of peoples were the White Christian Russians/Slavs by the Bolsheviks with Mao killing his own coming a close second. I'm not saying the Peoples of the Americas were not brutalised and demographically destroyed, but in those days, as from days of old, that's what happened....and other world Power at the time would have done the same thing if they'd be as advanced in technology and decided to use it to explore and then colonise the planet. Well it doesn't justify crimes against humans over 100s of years, by saying that other criminals would have done the same. It was still a tragic crime committed over generations from the time of the Columbus until recently. Here is a list of some massacres that are reported.. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Indian_massacres_in_North_America And it is known that biological warfare was fought by purposely infecting natives by giving them blankets laced with disease. https://daily.jstor.org/how-commonly-was-smallpox-used-as-a-biological-weapon/ There is lots of documentation too that natives sculpted heads were rewarded by the white European government, and that they were not considered human.. https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a29318/redskin-name-update/ Native tribes were exterminated, kicked off their native lands, killed, enslaved, raped and cheated. It is also documented how natives who tried to get legal status through acknowledgment of the government were cheated and looted out of their lands that were agreed upon. https://www.history.com/news/native-american-broken-treaties The argument you bring of "if we had not killed, looted, destroyed, stolen, humiliated, raped, etc., then somebody else would have - reminds me of this Jewish supremacist who recently went viral in Palestine.. Hell is large enough for all criminals. Saying that other criminals exist does not justify those crimes. Has anything changed? No. I don't see the tribal leaders of native America having any form of power or leverage against the corporations and politicians who still steal their lands, and kill their people. In Canada women and girls are kidnapped, disappeared while being unsafe in their own land https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/31/canada-missing-indigenous-women-cultural-genocide-government-report The tragedy of what happens and is happening to the natives of lands occupied by white Europeans can never be expressed with words. One should never justify those things, and one better condemn such acts and racist mentalities. Just put yourself into the shoes of the natives who had everything taken away from them, and who were killed and humiliated for no other reason than their race. How can anyone not have merci and compassion for these? And not have disgust for the people who did these crimes? One should not only condemn these massacres and genocides, but one should plan and look forward to compensate and fix the situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weedo Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 I 100% respect a person who says "I did not do these crimes myself, and I'm white and no criminal. Not all whites are criminals!" Fine, that sounds fair. But people who are justifying and normalizing extreme racist and cruel raping, killing, stealing, and dehumanizing of fellow humans of different races, these - all I can say to explain it - is that they are the kind of people who would do these things if they got the chance. Those people will be fuel in the fires of hell, which the prophets of God have promised us. There is no escape from justice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weedo Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 The people defending (and ignoring) white cruelty, double standards, and supremacy throughout history in lands native to non whites, is making me feel sick. Honestly, it is discouraging me from being on this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Weedo said: The people defending (and ignoring) white cruelty, double standards, and supremacy throughout history in lands native to non whites, is making me feel sick. Honestly, it is discouraging me from being on this forum. What do you want people to say? "People are welcome to slaughter us because some of our ancestors did some bad things." People in the modern Western world pretty much only hear about the bad parts of our history these days, so it's not like we're not aware. What people don't like is atrocity propaganda used against them to justify their deracination. If people want to hear about the bad parts of European history they can go to the mainstream press, or youtube. To hear about bad things that have happened to whites or Christians then you often have to look for censored or banned material. Is that not also a double standard? Edited July 21, 2021 by EnigmaticWorld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 You have to understand that the ball is in your court with this debate. There are things we can't share here as white people as this forum might get taken down or hacked again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Help us stand up to the elites and we can all prosper, no? There would be no slave markets in Libya. We could crack down on degenerate shit that destroys the black nuclear family, and gangster shit that encourages young black men to shoot and rob their brothers etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skitzorat Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said: You have to understand that the ball is in your court with this debate. There are things we can't share here as white people as this forum might get taken down or hacked again. I notice he never talks about the atrocious historical behaviour of the Ottomans or the Berbers which I've mentioned several times (side note, maybe if the Ottomans hadn't conquered the Christian City of Constantinople in 1453 the European age of discovery may never happened the way it did as Columbus set off in 1492 to find another route to India as the Muslims had taken over the trade routes to the East)... but what's truly galling.. and the thing that gets on my tits (apart from his circular attempt at arguments) is that out of the forums and subsections he comes to the "Is there an Agenda to reduce the Europeans" where there are 33 pages worth of evidences and yet he has the fucking cheek to saying, over and over "White people deserve" it and tries to justify what's currently happening.. I wish he'd fuck off to another section because as he has made quite clear, numerous times, he doesn't like European people...and given is hateful posts (which I identified earlier) this isn't the subforum for him to explore the conspiracy... And no, I'm not sorry for the sins of the past.. it was the elites of the past, same as today who organised and planned most of atrocities (same as forever, everywhere) everyday folk just had to do what they were told....and most European settlers in the New World were just poor folk risking it all to build a better life for their family and descendants... I refuse to compelled to submit to WHITE MAN BAD and have big 100M native American GENOCIDE posters plastered in this particular subforum.. especially coming from a self confessed Muslim who openly has distain for Europeans and our culture 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, skitzorat said: I notice he never talks about the atrocious historical behaviour of the Ottomans or the Berbers which I've mentioned several times (side note, maybe if the Ottomans hadn't conquered the Christian City of Constantinople in 1453 the European age of discovery may never happened the way it did as Columbus set off in 1492 to find another route to India as the Muslims had taken over the trade routes to the East)... but what's truly galling.. and the thing that gets on my tits (apart from his circular attempt at arguments) is that out of the forums and subsections he comes to the "Is there an Agenda to reduce the Europeans" where there are 33 pages worth of evidences and yet he has the fucking cheek to saying, over and over "White people deserve" it and tries to justify what's currently happening.. I wish he'd fuck off to another section because as he has made quite clear, numerous times, he doesn't like European people...and given is hateful posts (which I identified earlier) this isn't the subforum for him to explore the conspiracy... And no, I'm not sorry for the sins of the past.. it was the elites of the past, same as today who organised and planned most of atrocities (same as forever, everywhere) everyday folk just had to do what they were told....and most European settlers in the New World were just poor folk risking it all to build a better life for their family and descendants... I refuse to compelled to submit to WHITE MAN BAD and have big 100M native American GENOCIDE posters plastered in this particular subforum.. especially coming from a self confessed Muslim who openly has distain for Europeans and our culture The thing is, I grew up as a lefty, in a diverse council estate where nobody really thought about colour until all this recent identity politics, and I worked in the hip hop industry. As a young man I basically embraced black culture more than my own and was and still am sympathetic to their suffering. It was only when I got sick of the anti-white hate among my peers because they were being radicalized against me that I became a problem, which made me realize that what is going on is not about equality. If people didn't start all the anti-white shit then I would probably still be in my old friend group, but they made it clear that they're not real friends so what was I supposed to do? Edited July 21, 2021 by EnigmaticWorld 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 18 minutes ago, skitzorat said: And no, I'm not sorry for the sins of the past.. it was the elites of the past, same as today who organised and planned most of atrocities (same as forever, everywhere) everyday folk just had to do what they were told. 100% mate Probably posted already but hey .... add a bitchute link .... https://www.bitchute.com/video/Ido96C15C48N/ and I must say that being 'blamed' for the past is beginning to piss me off! There is a GREAT deal of 'past' I could 'blame' any race for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skitzorat Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said: The thing is, I grew up as a lefty, in a diverse council estate where nobody really thought about colour until all this recent identity politics, and I worked in the hip hop industry. As a young man I basically embraced black culture more than my own and was and still am sympathetic to their suffering. It was only when I got sick of the anti-white hate among my peers because they were being radicalized against me that I became a problem, which made me realize that what is going on is not about equality. If people didn't start all the anti-white shit then I would probably still be in my old friend group, but they made it clear that they're not friends so what was I supposed to do? I'm pretty much the same, only I grew up in a very nice neighbourhood because my Dad had a really good job and after he was made redundant my parents ran hotels and motels so were self employed... however, it was the same in NZ.. race NEVER mattered! NEVER... we have very close Maori family friends and European family friends.. I went to a nice school (not a private school because my parents aren't snobs) and at age 5 in the late 80s I was singing the colours and counting to 10 in Maori as well as English...it didn't mean shit... NZ even started the Waitangi Tribunal to atone for Colonial crimes... albeit they were committed by The Crown.. and BILLIONS upon BILLIONS of $ have been paid in reparations, millions of hectares of land has been repatriated to different tribes (many of whom legitimately SOLD land to the Crown at the time for guns etc so they could continue killing each other)... and guess what happened to it? The Maori Elites took it all, swindled it, pissed it up against the wall and their people are still in poverty..... Funnily enough, after the Maori arrived in NZ in the 13C within 200 years they'd already felled a lot of the virgin forest, made the Moa extinct and driven the Mori-ori, who were here first, almost to extinction and left them surviving isolated on the Chattem Islands...then they turned on each other because they're warriors and humans and that's just what we have always done..the stronger the fitter the more technologically advanced has always meant greater survival potential for your peoples offspring.. for wally-weird to cry foul on the "sins" of European Colonialism while believing civilizational history only began 500 years ago just shows he's only here to stir shit. Edited July 21, 2021 by skitzorat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) To the cultural marxists that might be reading (not saying anyone is here), you do realize you follow the ideology of a man that wanted to rebel and place his throne above God, and trample on God's kingdom, right? Is that really the ideology you want to be shepherded by? Whether you believe in God or not, that sounds straight up insane. Edited July 21, 2021 by EnigmaticWorld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, skitzorat said: I'm pretty much the same, only I grew up in a very nice neighbourhood because my Dad had a really good job and after he was made redundant my parents ran hotels and motels so were self employed... however, it was the same in NZ.. race NEVER mattered! NEVER... we have very close Maori family friends and European family friends.. I went to a nice school (not a private school because my parents aren't snobs) and at age 5 in the late 80s I was singing the colours and counting to 10 in Maori as well as English...it didn't mean shit... NZ even started the Waitangi Tribunal to atone for Colonial crimes... albeit they were committed by The Crown.. and BILLIONS upon BILLIONS of $ have been paid in reparations, millions of hectares of land has been repatriated to different tribes (many of whom legitimately SOLD land to the Crown at the time for guns etc so they could continue killing each other)... and guess what happened to it? The Maori Elites took it all, swindled it, pissed it up against the wall and their people are still in poverty..... Funnily enough, after the Maori arrived in NZ in the 13C within 200 years they'd already felled a lot of the virgin forest, made the Moa extinct and driven the Mori-ori, who were here first, almost to extinction and left them surviving isolated on the Chattem Islands...then they turned on each other because they're warriors and humans and that's just what we have always done..the stronger the fitter the more technologically advanced has always meant greater survival potential for your peoples offspring.. for wally-weird to cry foul on the "sins" of European Colonialism while believing civilizational history only began 500 years ago just shows he's only here to stir shit. I don't know much about the Maori people and have to admit that I'm ignorant on that subject, but I know three Native Americans that want white people to stand up for themselves as they know they will be under the elites boot once we're gone or have been brought to ruin. The way I look at it, if white people suddenly tried to put minorities in shackles today, most people would be against that barbarity because we have moved on from the past. That being said, when do the elites ever listen to us these days? Did they listen when the common man took to the streets to protest against the war in Iraq? No they didn't, and once we're gone people are fvcked. Do people think China will care about the suffering of those in Africa or the Middle East? I don't think so. There won't be hardly any aid being sent to those places either, even though I'm not sure it always goes to those who need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) On 7/20/2021 at 2:59 PM, mollymag5 said: I am not a European and I have read this thread with interest. There is no doubt that you Europeans are experiencing some major changes. You are being colonized. And maybe this is a sort of karma after you (historically) set out around the world colonizing others and in some cases seriously damaging indigenous people. Maybe this is some of your own medicine. I don't expect this to be a popular view, but I live in what was once a colony and I have first hand evidence of what the English and French colonizers did to the First Nations people. Hand in hand with their churches, the colonizers genocided children and ripped up the social fabric of the established people. Maybe you are getting some idea of how that feels. Good luck with it as the First Nations people of North America didn't do well in the face of the blue-eyed enemy. If you look back in the history of the british isles you will find that we had this 'medicine' long before you did for example the roman invasions of britain. The romans enslaved many people on these islands. Sometimes they followed a policy of direct genocide. One foray they made north of hadrians wall they were given express orders to kill on sight any men, women or children that they saw. Britain was colonised. You can skip forward to the invasion of britain by the normans in 1066 where fuedalism was then imposed which ripped up the social fabric of the established people. The land was parcelled up amongst the norman and flemish invaders and in fact much of the land in britain is still held by the descendants of those families In scotland over half of the land is owned by just 500 people. We have the most concentrated pattern of ownership in europe. We are still living with the consequences of those changes yet there have been no reparations paid. We saw the harrying of the north of england by william the conqueror where his men burned villages, slaughtered peasants, captured cattle and destroyed crops. Half the villages of the north riding and over a third of those in the east and west ridings were wholly or partly destroyed. Its estimated around 100,000 people died in the ensuing famine Its estimated that more than 2 million white people were sold into slavery and britain was even raided by slavers from north africa (corsair pirates) or by the romans before that. Then we had the witch hunts which saw tens of thousands of people killed and we had the press ganging of people into the navy against their will (who knows how many of them died or were maimed in service): Impressment Impressment, colloquially "the press" or the "press gang", is the taking of men into a military or naval force by compulsion, with or without notice. European navies of several nations used forced recruitment by various means. The large size of the British Royal Navy in the Age of Sail meant impressment was most commonly associated with Great Britain and Ireland. It was used by the Royal Navy in wartime, beginning in 1664 and during the 18th and early 19th centuries as a means of crewing warships, although legal sanction for the practice can be traced back to the time of Edward I of England. The Royal Navy impressed many merchant sailors, as well as some sailors from other, mostly European, nations. People liable to impressment were "eligible men of seafaring habits between the ages of 18 and 55 years". Non-seamen were sometimes impressed as well, though rarely. In addition to the Royal Navy's use of impressment, the British army also experimented with impressment from 1778 to 1780. Impressment was strongly criticized by those who believed it to be contrary to the British constitution.[1] Though the public opposed conscription in general, impressment was repeatedly upheld by the courts, as it was deemed vital to the strength of the navy and, by extension, to the survival of the British influence and realm. Average annual recruitment 1736–1783[11] Dates Period Royal Navy Privateer Merchant Total 1736–1738 Peacetime 14,845 35,239 50,084 1739–1748 War of Jenkins' Ear 43,303 2,602 30,392 76,297 1753–1755 Peacetime 17,369 40,862 58,231 1756-1763 Seven Years' War 74,771 3,286 37,584 115,641 1773–1775 Peacetime 18,540 50,903 69,443 1775-1783 American Revolutionary War 67,747 3,749 44,947 116,443 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impressment we had deportations of people for petty crimes (like stealing a loaf of bread) to far off colonies like australia or americas. We had lowland clearances and highland clearances with people driven off their land and into boats where they were then sent abroad. White indentured workers were put to work in the new colonies but kept dying of maleria and dysentry so the elites started looking for a work force elsewhere and found one in east africa where they bought slaves from the arab, jewish and african slave traders already operating there. Britain Sent Thousands of Its Convicts to America, Not Just Australia By Matt Novak 5/29/15 1:00PM The joke about Australia is that it was founded by a bunch of criminals. And from 1788 until 1868, Britain did send roughly 164,000 convicts to the land down under. America’s dirty little secret? The same exact thing was happening here. In fact, experts estimate that over 52,000 British prisoners were shipped off to colonial America. Britain had been shipping convicts to America for decades before they started sending them to Australia. In fact, it was precisely because of America’s fight for independence that the Brits had to start sending their criminals to Australia. But from 1718 until 1775, convict transportation to the American colonies flourished. Some estimates claim that almost 10 percent of migrants to America during this time were British convicts. https://gizmodo.com/britain-sent-thousands-of-its-convicts-to-america-not-1707458418 We had the agricultural revolution and the 'enclosures acts' which saw people driven off the countryside and into the cities where their labour was then exploited in the industrial revolution. Countless people have been exploited in the mills of britain as well as down the coal pits. Then we have had repeated conscription of our men into the army so that they could be blown to bits in a number of horrific wars with the first and second world wars seeing millions of british and europeans killed and cities flattened. Now we have covid-jabs being imposed on us and greater and greater degrees of tyranny. We've had more of that sort of 'medicine' over a huge period of time then i think you can fathom Edited July 21, 2021 by Macnamara 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weedo Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 2 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said: What do you want people to say? "People are welcome to slaughter us because some of our ancestors did some bad things." People in the modern Western world pretty much only hear about the bad parts of our history these days, so it's not like we're not aware. What people don't like is atrocity propaganda used against them to justify their deracination. If people want to hear about the bad parts of European history they can go to the mainstream press, or youtube. To hear about bad things that have happened to whites or Christians then you often have to look for censored or banned material. Is that not also a double standard? I have the same problem as a Muslim. Most muslims in history have been douche bags. What I see here is people defending people who make isis look like mother Mary, just because there is a whitophobia movement. No. One must clearly condemn douche bags, and stop making excuses for them. Saying apartheid is justified, or that white people who did atrocities in countless countries aren't responsible, because some satanics were controlling them, is no excuse. Whoever defends and does not condemn criminals of the past, are to me the criminals of today in-waiting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Weedo said: I have the same problem as a Muslim. Most muslims in history have been douche bags. What I see here is people defending people who make isis look like mother Mary, just because there is a whitophobia movement. No. One must clearly condemn douche bags, and stop making excuses for them. Saying apartheid is justified, or that white people who did atrocities in countless countries aren't responsible, because some satanics were controlling them, is no excuse. Whoever defends and does not condemn criminals of the past, are to me the criminals of today in-waiting. Okay, well I haven't defended colonists, only my right to exist. You know my views on that subject as a nationalist that values self-determination. Feel free to debate others though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weedo Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 2 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said: You have to understand that the ball is in your court with this debate. There are things we can't share here as white people as this forum might get taken down or hacked again. Don't worry about being hacked or even dying for what you believe to be the truth. Just say it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weedo Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 2 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said: Help us stand up to the elites and we can all prosper, no? There would be no slave markets in Libya. We could crack down on degenerate shit that destroys the black nuclear family, and gangster shit that encourages young black men to shoot and rob their brothers etc. My life is dedicated to getting down the satanics. But crimes must be condemned and judged as if we are all part of the same human family. One black life is worth one white life, and currently if you want to divide the world into colors, the white people did the biggest crimes in terms of numbers. It must be said and admitted. And I don't go around obsessing about black or white, as for me its about one's relationship and rank with our Creator. That has little to do with color, rather with actions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Weedo said: Don't worry about being hacked or even dying for what you believe to be the truth. Just say it. Mate, I have loved ones to worry about, I don't want a knock on the door for thought crimes on the internet. I don't have the same right to free speech as other groups. There is only so much I will say on a forum like this about certain historical events. Edited July 21, 2021 by EnigmaticWorld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weedo Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 1 hour ago, skitzorat said: I notice he never talks about the atrocious historical behaviour of the Ottomans or the Berbers which I've mentioned several times (side note, maybe if the Ottomans hadn't conquered the Christian City of Constantinople in 1453 the European age of discovery may never happened the way it did as Columbus set off in 1492 to find another route to India as the Muslims had taken over the trade routes to the East)... but what's truly galling.. and the thing that gets on my tits (apart from his circular attempt at arguments) is that out of the forums and subsections he comes to the "Is there an Agenda to reduce the Europeans" where there are 33 pages worth of evidences and yet he has the fucking cheek to saying, over and over "White people deserve" it and tries to justify what's currently happening.. I wish he'd fuck off to another section because as he has made quite clear, numerous times, he doesn't like European people...and given is hateful posts (which I identified earlier) this isn't the subforum for him to explore the conspiracy... And no, I'm not sorry for the sins of the past.. it was the elites of the past, same as today who organised and planned most of atrocities (same as forever, everywhere) everyday folk just had to do what they were told....and most European settlers in the New World were just poor folk risking it all to build a better life for their family and descendants... I refuse to compelled to submit to WHITE MAN BAD and have big 100M native American GENOCIDE posters plastered in this particular subforum.. especially coming from a self confessed Muslim who openly has distain for Europeans and our culture That is simply not true. I spoke many times about the crimes of the ottomans, but maybe you didnt like how I said a fact that Christians under ottoman rule had more rights than Africans under apartheid. I am very clear that most Muslims in history are bad, and I won't defend isis, just because there is Islamophobia, and whites who went to Iraq and Afghanistan to listen to heavy metal music while killing those sand niggerz. Those Muslims who are all terrosits.. Or have you forgotten? Or you don't care? Or you only care about 'whites'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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