Is there an agenda to reduce the White European population?

[Stuart dorrans]

11 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

the rise of the snowflake corresponds with the rise of tyranny

(Today I can assure you that we are only within a few strides of our goal. There remains only a short distance and the cycle of the Symbolic Serpent-that badge of our people-will be complete. When this circle is locked, all the states of Europe will be enclosed in it, as it were, by unbreakable chains.                                                                This quote is apparently from the brotherhood of the serpent and it sounds pretty damn threatening to me. I take it we are headed for order out of chaos again because this world has gone f***ing crazy.

[Campion]

1 hour ago, Stuart dorrans said:

(Today I can assure you that we are only within a few strides of our goal. There remains only a short distance and the cycle of the Symbolic Serpent-that badge of our people-will be complete. When this circle is locked, all the states of Europe will be enclosed in it, as it were, by unbreakable chains.                                                                This quote is apparently from the brotherhood of the serpent and it sounds pretty damn threatening to me. I take it we are headed for order out of chaos again because this world has gone f***ing crazy.

 

Thanks Stuart, I'd like to hear more about this brotherhood if you have any more info you can share here. 

[Stuart dorrans]

12 minutes ago, Campion said:

 

Thanks Stuart, I'd like to hear more about this brotherhood if you have any more info you can share here.

Children of the matrix. I've read this book 3 times and I'm going to give it another read in the new year to refresh my memory. If you're into ancient secret societies this book is for you. David covers loads of them. I can't send any links as I'm on dinosaur tech that's on its last legs. I would get a copy of this book before they ban it. I'm Ellen

[Macnamara]

'This is Horrifying': Dr. James Thorp Has Seen 'Death and Destruction' Like Never Before

The Vigilant Fox Published November 21, 2022

https://rumble.com/v1wciie-this-is-horrifying-dr.-james-thorp-has-seen-death-and-destruction-like-hes-.html

[EnigmaticWorld]

Access to white folks shouldn't be a human right.

[Campion]

1 hour ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

Access to white folks shouldn't be a human right.

 

For white folks that is. For non-whites it's encouraged. 

[EnigmaticWorld]

EU commissioner who said 6 million more migrants needed for Europe caught up in ‘Qatargate’ bribery scandal
https://rmx.news/european-union/eu-commissioner-who-said-6-million-more-migrants-needed-for-europe-caught-up-in-qatargate-bribery-scandal/

 

Swiss national referendum will limit population to 10 million through strict immigration control to save environment
https://rmx.news/article/swiss-national-referendum-will-limit-population-to-10-million-through-strict-immigration-control-to-save-environment/

[Stuart dorrans]

Do you remember when we were at the height of COVID hysteria? I noticed more divide and rule between natives and migrants. MSM always had loads of pictures of masked whites and unmasked immigrants. This would have been to give whites the impression they could get their freedom back if the migrants would just wear the mask and comply for the greater good. 

[Macnamara]

the politicians never really gave us brexit in the end....they just pretended to and instead ramped up the mass immigration:

Bonfire of EU laws is now 'unlikely to take place in 2023': Government's pledge to remove up to 4,000 pieces of Brussels-linked legislation faces 'a three-year delay'

• Some departments want a 2026 deadline for the removal of legislation 
• Thousands of officials would be needed to review the regulations to be on time
• Rishi Sunak vowed to scrap EU laws in his first 100 days as Prime Minister

By Martin Beckford Policy Editor For The Daily Mail

Published: 22:28 GMT, 2 January 2023 | Updated: 22:30 GMT, 2 January 2023

A bonfire of EU laws is unlikely to take place this year as promised, it was claimed last night.

The Government has pledged to remove as many as 4,000 pieces of legislation originating in Brussels by December, after ministers have decided which ones need to be kept or ditched.

However the scale of the task is so great that Whitehall believes it cannot be completed in time, as thousands of officials would be needed to review the detailed regulations. Some departments want the deadline extended until 2026.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11593171/Governments-pledge-remove-4-000-pieces-Brussels-linked-law-faces-three-year-delay.html

[EnigmaticWorld]

[EnigmaticWorld]

 

[monkeylove]

Lower birth rates caused by prosperity and leading to population aging, with the latter mitigated by migrant workers needed as nurses, caregivers, etc.

 

[Bombadil]

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/lifestyle/other/life-in-cornwall-the-whitest-part-of-the-uk-as-a-person-of-colour/ar-AA165jZ8?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=9f0486966573440b89a634e2c5bdf68c

 

 

[Macnamara]

Why has there been no reckoning over Rotherham?

A new investigation shows disgraced councillors still hold influential positions

by Louise Perry

Wednesday, 4
January 2023

GB News broke a remarkable story this week as part of their ongoing investigation into UK grooming gangs — an issue that may not be occupying the headlines as much as it once did, but which has certainly not gone away. 

Mahroof Hussain is a former Labour Party politician who was forced to resign from his cabinet position at Rotherham Council in 2015 after the Casey Report named him as one of the figures who had “suppressed discussion” of grooming gangs operating in the town. 

And yet, despite his disgrace, it is reported that Hussein has succeeded in reinventing himself as an anti-Islamophobia activist, working with groups including Tell MAMA and Faith Matters. And, in an extraordinary example of failing upwards, in October 2020 Hussain was appointed as the NHS Health Education England Regional Diversity & Inclusion Manager for the Midlands. In September 2022, he was promoted to become the national lead.

This follows further reporting last month which revealed that Dominic Beck had been selected as Labour’s parliamentary candidate for Rother Valley, despite the fact that he also served on the Rotherham Council cabinet, alongside Hussain, and was also forced to resign following the Casey Report. Beck stood down following the investigation.

These two men were both implicated in the cover-up of the largest sex abuse scandal of this century, and possibly also of the last century. The number of victims in Rotherham alone dwarfs the number of victims abused by Jimmy Savile, and it is believed that across the UK it is “highly likely that the number of victims stretches into the tens of thousands.” The scale of this scandal is almost certainly far larger than we know, given how little investigation there has been, and how few consequences have been visited upon those involved.

I suspect that future historians will be puzzled by these last few decades, during which the widespread prostitution of children by organised criminal gangs — sometimes escalating to murder — was met with embarrassed silence in much of the media and among most feminists. This was even while far less serious incidents (say, Jeremy Clarkson’s comments about Meghan Markle) were met with outrage. Why would feminists jump to the defence of a princess, but raise barely a peep in response to the raped 11-year-old branded with the initial of her rapist? 

One reason, among several, was a fear of appearing racist. As former Greater Manchester Police constable turned whistleblower Maggie Oliver writes bluntly of the scandal in Rochdale, “the people at the top perceived the ethnicity of the offenders and the low status of poor white girls as a toxic mix.” As this scandal has unfolded over the last twenty years, most of those in positions of power (including many feminists) have cared far too little about the victims and far too much about their own reputations.

Which is why there is yet to be a true reckoning. Of the dozens of towns and cities targeted by these gangs, in only one — Rotherham — has an investigation been carried out by the National Crime Agency (NCA), the body best suited to independent investigations of this magnitude. While the Casey Report concluded in 2015 that, at a “conservative estimate”, 1,400 girls were sexually exploited between 1997 and 2013 in Rotherham, the NCA’s subsequent investigation revised the number of victims during this period up to 1,510. As part of the NCA’s Operation Stovewood, 209 people have so far been arrested, with 20 convicted. 

https://unherd.com/thepost/why-has-there-been-no-reckoning-over-rotherham/

[Campion]

21 hours ago, monkeylove said:

Lower birth rates caused by prosperity

 

There may be a correlation but I don't see a causation between prosperity and low birth rate. I often hear young people lamenting about how expensive it is to raise children and they can't afford any more. At the same time families belonging to traditional religions often have more children even if they are rich, so it looks like indoctrination plays a role here, and most of us westerners are certainly programmed to want a hedonistic lifestyle with small nuclear families, often a long way away from grandparents and starting later in life to prioritise careers. 

Edited January 8 by Campion

[monkeylove]

2 hours ago, Campion said:

 

There may be a correlation but I don't see a causation between prosperity and low birth rate. I often hear young people lamenting about how expensive it is to raise children and they can't afford any more. At the same time families belonging to traditional religions often have more children even if they are rich, so it looks like indoctrination plays a role here, and most of us westerners are certainly programmed to want a hedonistic lifestyle with small nuclear families, often a long way away from grandparents and starting later in life to prioritise careers. 

 

More education for women means better jobs and more income, which in turn is prosperity. They also encourage people not to marry, to marry late, to have children later in life, to have fewer children, or not to have children because raising families cost too much and one is better off focusing on careers and finding pleasure in shopping, vacations, nice houses, etc. That's why birth rates are generally lower in rich countries and higher in poor ones.

 

For the same reason, there's less religiosity in richer countries:

 

https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/USA-Update/2015/0316/Do-countries-become-less-religious-as-they-get-richer

 

That's because one outcome of higher income is consumer spending, and one outcome of consumer spending is secularism. More don't bother attending religious service because they have to work longer hours or want to go on vacation or go shopping.

 

There are exceptions, like the U.S., but that happens because of immigration, especially of young people from poor countries.

 

 

[EnigmaticWorld]

Majority of Brits have no confidence in Sunak’s ability to solve Britain’s migrant crisis, polling finds
https://rmx.news/crime/majority-of-brits-have-no-confidence-in-sunaks-ability-to-solve-britains-migrant-crisis-polling-finds/

 

Sweden: Majority of Malmö children are immigrants; researcher says Swedish is now a ‘minority language’ and calls for Arabic schools
https://rmx.news/sweden/majority-of-malmo-children-are-immigrants-leading-to-call-for-arabic-schools/

[EnigmaticWorld]

https://thuletide.wordpress.com/2023/01/08/the-great-replacement-is-a-top-down-project-the-role-of-the-united-nations-and-other-transnational-globalist-organizations/

[Campion]

22 hours ago, monkeylove said:

More education for women means better jobs and more income, which in turn is prosperity. ... 

not to have children because raising families cost too much ... 

birth rates are generally lower in rich countries and higher in poor ones.... 

There are exceptions, like the U.S., but that happens because of immigration, especially of young people from poor countries. 

  

You're quite right, I can see the facts on the ground of richer countries having low fertility but why do we have the belief that we can't afford children because they cost too much? When the evidence is overwhelmingly that the poorer you are, the more children you have? It's as if we've been infected with a mind virus which creates this kind of contradictory thinking. 

 

I get it that women still have the majority of work in child bearing & rearing, even in this woke society we live in, so having a large family on top of a higher education and professional career seems too much to take on. Men generally also want the education and careers rather than role-swapping as home-makers.  And people don't seem to like the idea of spending that extra income on buying childcare, when they could have luxuries. But the "luxury" lifestyle is short-term and we are literally dying out! The few people talking about it get accused of being conspiracy theorists in an attempt to silence us, which does look like an agenda to me. 

[monkeylove]

1 hour ago, Campion said:

  

You're quite right, I can see the facts on the ground of richer countries having low fertility but why do we have the belief that we can't afford children because they cost too much? When the evidence is overwhelmingly that the poorer you are, the more children you have? It's as if we've been infected with a mind virus which creates this kind of contradictory thinking. 

 

I get it that women still have the majority of work in child bearing & rearing, even in this woke society we live in, so having a large family on top of a higher education and professional career seems too much to take on. Men generally also want the education and careers rather than role-swapping as home-makers.  And people don't seem to like the idea of spending that extra income on buying childcare, when they could have luxuries. But the "luxury" lifestyle is short-term and we are literally dying out! The few people talking about it get accused of being conspiracy theorists in an attempt to silence us, which does look like an agenda to me. 

 

After industrialization, a rich economy eventually experiences a drop in real wages (which started in the states in the early 1970s), where increasing wages can't meet increasing costs, and the latter is driven by the drive for middle class conveniences, like vacations abroad, nice houses, etc. Meanwhile, more move away from farming and manufacturing to service industries, where they can earn more, and usually in finance.

 

That's why together with population aging and less religiosity richer countries also experience higher debts overall (which started in the states in the early 1980s), more resource and energy consumption per capita, more money earned through financial speculation (and thus, more vulnerability to financial crashes), etc.

 

Increasing pollution is offset by outsourcing agriculture and/or manufacturing to poorer countries (which is why pollution levels in places like China went up), and more young people brought in from those poorer countries to work as teachers, nurses, caregivers, manual laborers, etc. (which started in the 1970s, and is seen through Filipinos working as nurses in places like the UK and the U.S. and as manual laborers in Saudi Arabia and Europe). Meanwhile, population aging among the local population sets in (which is now affecting China, too, and where in places like Singapore is not being offset even as governments encourage people to have more children), and significantly affects small towns and cities (which is why the ave. age of people in some towns and cities in places like Australia and New Zealand are now in the 50s).

 

In addition, increasing debt is mitigitated partly by women entering the workforce. That's why the phenomenon of the two-worker family started back in the 1970s in the U.S., as the father's income could no longer cover the family's costs. That plus automation and women's lib contributed to a drop in real wages.

 

 

[Macnamara]

13 hours ago, monkeylove said:

Increasing pollution is offset by outsourcing agriculture and/or manufacturing to poorer countries

On 1/9/2023 at 12:53 AM, monkeylove said:

More education for women means better jobs and more income, which in turn is prosperity. They also encourage people not to marry, to marry late, to have children later in life, to have fewer children, or not to have children because raising families cost too much and one is better off focusing on careers and finding pleasure in shopping, vacations, nice houses, etc. That's why birth rates are generally lower in rich countries and higher in poor ones.

 

this is nonsense!

 

you have this completely arse-about-face! You make it sound like these things happened by chance! They did not. You are a coincidence theorist. It happened by DESIGN with intent.

 

Globalisation and pushing women into the workplace was all orchestrated as part of a wider and ongoing social engineering of society to bring about certain conditions favoured by the globalist elites

 

 

Edited January 10 by Macnamara

[Campion]

17 hours ago, monkeylove said:

and more young people brought in from those poorer countries to work as teachers, nurses, caregivers, manual laborers, etc. (which started in the 1970s, and is seen through Filipinos working as nurses in places like the UK and the U.S. and as manual laborers in Saudi Arabia and Europe). Meanwhile, population aging among the local population sets in (which is now affecting China, too, and where in places like Singapore is not being offset even as governments encourage people to have more children), and significantly affects small towns and cities (which is why the ave. age of people in some towns and cities in places like Australia and New Zealand are now in the 50s).

 

And yet the governments of those far eastern countries like China, Japan, Singapore are Korea haven't chosen mass immigration from culturally very different areas like Africa - do you think they are mistaken and heading for an economic crisis, or is it the West which is mistaken because after 70 odd years of immigration we still haven't reached a point where the PTB have decided we've solved the supposed economic problems.  In fact, China is playing a very different game with Africa and providing them with debt in exchange for infrastructure projects with the Belt and Road Initiative. 

[monkeylove]

8 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

this is nonsense!

 

you have this completely arse-about-face! You make it sound like these things happened by chance! They did not. You are a coincidence theorist. It happened by DESIGN with intent.

 

Globalisation and pushing women into the workplace was all orchestrated as part of a wider and ongoing social engineering of society to bring about certain conditions favoured by the globalist elites

 

 

 

It doesn't matter whether or not they happened by chance. The point is that they did.

 

[monkeylove]

4 hours ago, Campion said:

 

And yet the governments of those far eastern countries like China, Japan, Singapore are Korea haven't chosen mass immigration from culturally very different areas like Africa - do you think they are mistaken and heading for an economic crisis, or is it the West which is mistaken because after 70 odd years of immigration we still haven't reached a point where the PTB have decided we've solved the supposed economic problems.  In fact, China is playing a very different game with Africa and providing them with debt in exchange for infrastructure projects with the Belt and Road Initiative. 

 

They've been outsourcing to nearby countries the last two decades. Meanwhile, they're still facing population aging.

 

There's no "and yet" in your points.

 

[EnigmaticWorld]

I wish it was just about economics. Seems a bit naive to ignore the tribal element in all this.