Macnamara Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said: That's the socialist theory of collectivism, and I can understand why people don't want that. What I'm talking about is defeniding the 'collective', which can't be done alone. ok but i don't think you are going to be able to sell the idea of group calesthenics and youth movements to the general populace! what you might be able to sell to them is that they have rights not only under the british constitution but also from the creator ie they cannot be taken away by manmade laws and that there are people who are currently committing treason which is to say the destruction of a nation and/or its people 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinfoil Hat Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 2 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said: Not all baby boomers, but older folk should recognize that a lot of younger folk are angry about inheriting a world that is against us. We didn't have the luxury of just working and worrying about our own lives. I can understand the mind control as older folks grew up with stupid Hogan Hero caricatures, so I get that they're often confused and equate all evils with Nazism. We're more anti TV than the previous generation. We're becoming more well read by the day, and trying to understand why the world is like it is. Then people tell us that we're bad for thinking about organizing against those that hate us. While people seem to like blaming Boomers for everything, please try to remember that it's only really since the introduction of the internet that the public have had the facility to see a lot of realities that they would previously have had no inkling of whatsoever .It's a couple of decades since 9/11 which is what woke me up and I suspect the same applies to many others. I don't believe that 'we' (boomers) have done, or were remiss about doing something in particicular, to stuff things up for the younger generations. Prior to that, normal people like me were struggling to get a job when we left College, because there was a job shortage at that time. So often worked for a pittance just to do something. Working, getting wed, starting a family, struggling to pay a mortgage - normal things. Getting by has never been easy for me (a Boomer) and the same applies to plenty of people of my age, who just simply wanted and expected to have an ordinary, peaceful life in return for working our arses off in the rat race. I could go into more detail - such as it being us who have striven to buy homes with the intention of willing them to your generation in the hopes that you can have more stability than we've had for eg - but I won't because I could go on all night. I don't accept your generalisations about either age group, and don't find them to be either accurate or helpful. We are all victims of the same evil and need to be on the same side instead of blaming each other imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Tinfoil Hat said: While people seem to like blaming Boomers for everything I tried to make it clear that not all baby boomers are like that, and I understand that they didn't grow up with so much information at their fingertips. I'm not trying to play the blame game, just showing people how youngsters feel. You're not under threat from youngsters on the Right, don't worry. Some of us youngsters on the Right might be angry, be we value our families and tradition. I can't speak for the progressives that complain about baby boomers though, and their rhetoric does concern me because they don't value their kin as much. Edited September 6, 2022 by EnigmaticWorld 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 @Tinfoil Hat ^Progressive anti-boomer sentiment. ^Right Wing sentiment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Tinfoil Hat said: While people seem to like blaming Boomers for everything i think there was a bit of chat about where things became derailed. You could make an argument that things went wrong back in 1066 with the invasion of britain and the creation of the exchequer! campion mentioned world war one as another turning point that demoralised the nation I then spoke about how things changed after the second world war due to the influence of socialist governments that were looking to discard ancient notions of the common law and peoples God given rights so that they could be replaced with the 'human rights' written by the socialists themselves and by 'socialists' what i'm really talking about is the corporate socialist elites that have taken control of the political system The boomers grew up in that post war period that saw new statutes created that expanded the reach of government to reach into all areas of life and i think the problem is that the boomers experienced a high degree of comfort and that in their comfort they have largely forgotten to protect their freedom So there is a process at work here where the elites just keep expanding the purvue of government and obviously their long range plan was to socially engineer society into acceptance of complete, totalitarian control under a technocracy. Such ideas were already being discussed over a century ago by fabians like HG wells, bernhard shaw and a little later by aldous huxley so we know these ideas were already in the minds of the elites prior to world war two. George orwell even warned us about them After world war two however we saw an escalation of the subversion of the british constitution due to the creation of globalised bodies such as the united nations, imf, world bank and EU which all sought to move humanity into a world government run by the elites behind the corporations who do not recognise our inalienable rights Edited September 6, 2022 by Macnamara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinfoil Hat Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 1 hour ago, EnigmaticWorld said: I tried to make it clear that not all baby boomers are like that, and I understand that they didn't grow up with so much information at their fingertips. I'm not trying to play the blame game, just showing people how youngsters feel. You're not under threat from youngsters on the Right, don't worry. Some of us youngsters on the Right might be angry, be we value our families and tradition. I can't speak for the progressives that complain about baby boomers though, and their rhetoric does concern me because they don't value their kin as much. Well if youngsters feel like that, they are less clever and more ill informed than they think they are, and I no longer have time to care much about their ignorant opinions. There are bigger fish to fry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemuri Kyoshiro Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said: ^Progressive anti-boomer sentiment. The women were far better looking in my day than the androgynous bimbo in the video. Here's a real woman with no plastic, collagen, or silicone. Edited September 6, 2022 by Nemuri Kyoshiro 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 14 minutes ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said: The women were far better looking in my day than the androgynous bimbo in the video. Here's a real woman with no plastic, collagen, or silicone. Yup. Too much makeup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sickofallthebollocks Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 (edited) Yet more 'refugees' arriving in seaside resorts, and taking up permanent residence in Holiday Hotels. Been asked before (and of course alot us on the forum here know why) but, for those unsure: Why are they always Men? Well, there's a reason for that....... Edited September 6, 2022 by sickofallthebollocks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 On another note, I feel like I have to give credit where it's due. I'm very grateful for some of the older folks from the past. Most of the books us youngsters are reading are from the older folks that came before us. I do wish people listened to McCarthy though. The long march through the institutions has been so destructive. I often wonder if vanguardism is possible for us, the idea of placing yourself inside a revolutionary movement and steering it in your direction. Yet again, most people will think of the evils of Leninism if you mention it though. I'm more talking about Bowden's talks, not a Communists flavour of vanguardism. I don't think it's possible because the Far Left will probably notice people using a similar strategy to them. It's just something that I think about. It's probably just me dreaming though. I don't think that there is a political solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemuri Kyoshiro Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 13 minutes ago, sickofallthebollocks said: Why are thay always Men? Because it is an invasion. The last time battalions of young men tried to cross the channel, we sent up Spitfires and Hurricanes. Now we give them a helping hand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Tinfoil Hat said: Well if youngsters feel like that, they are less clever and more ill informed than they think they are, and I no longer have time to care much about their ignorant opinions. There are bigger fish to fry. I wouldn't worry about it. It's something for my generation and zoomers to worry about as we're the ones that are probably going to experience being a hated minority in our own homeland in our liftetime. Not trying to sound morbid, but the baby boomer generation will mostly be gone by 2066. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 'Too much immigration, not enough integration': Migrant clans' war-like violence tops Swedish voters' concerns as country becomes worst in Europe for shootings https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11184155/Migrant-clans-war-like-violence-tops-Swedish-voters-concerns.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sickofallthebollocks Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 18 minutes ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said: Because it is an invasion. The last time battalions of young men tried to cross the channel, we sent up Spitfires and Hurricanes. Now we give them a helping hand. Yep, I think - when the time comes - they're going to take london. There's no way thay can bring over enough of r the whole country - just london I think, even that is going to be very difficult for them. But, I think the media will get involved and stage it like it's 'our own homegrown' british police and armed forces that have locked down the capital, to make the sheep believe that the same will happen to them and their cities if they don't adhere to orders. Just a theory of course. Lots of theories eh... but something smells VERY fishy about all this. And it's not my underwear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemuri Kyoshiro Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 13 minutes ago, sickofallthebollocks said: Yep, I think - when the time comes - they're going to take london. There's no way thay can bring over enough of r the whole country - just london I think, even that is going to be very difficult for them. But, I think the media will get involved and stage it like it's 'our own homegrown' british police and armed forces that have locked down the capital, to make the sheep believe that the same will happen to them and their cities if they don't adhere to orders. Just a theory of course. Lots of theories eh... but something smells VERY fishy about all this. And it's not my underwear. Those who expect integration are deluded, but who really does think that way. This is the NWO army brought in for a single purpose, which is to destroy Western civilization. London, from what I gather, is already teetering on the edge of anarchy. Manchester and Birmingham are up there too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 19 minutes ago, sickofallthebollocks said: Yep, I think - when the time comes - they're going to take london. There's no way thay can bring over enough of r the whole country - just london I think, even that is going to be very difficult for them. But, I think the media will get involved and stage it like it's 'our own homegrown' british police and armed forces that have locked down the capital, to make the sheep believe that the same will happen to them and their cities if they don't adhere to orders. Just a theory of course. Lots of theories eh... but something smells VERY fishy about all this. And it's not my underwear. I dunno. We have an ageing population. Not enough young. And then there's stuff like this too. "George Soros-funded NGO Citizens UK has launched a campaign demanding the Home Office extend the refugee resettlement scheme to every corner of Britain." https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2018/07/04/home-office-importing-refugees-every-village/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemuri Kyoshiro Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 32 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said: "George Soros-funded NGO Citizens UK has launched a campaign demanding the Home Office extend the refugee resettlement scheme to every corner of Britain." 'Demanding'? That's rich. They can go and do one. https://register-of-charities.charitycommission.gov.uk/charity-search/-/charity-details/4012669 Check out the 'People' section. https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/05268071 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinfoil Hat Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 I listen to Radio Lancashire when driving to work, and they're forever doing stories about how to create these sweet, integrated, caring communities within areas of high ethnic 'minority' (a mysnoma now since whites are outnumbered) the local whites are being encouraged to take part in Ramadan so that they have a better understanding, blah blah blah. Idiots take part in the virtue signaling. You will never hear about Muslims etc taking part in Christian religious practices, "To get a better understanding...". And I'm off to work now, where I detest dealing with these ethnic minorities for the simple fact that every single one, be it a small business owner or those heading up the building of a large value mosque or other substantial construction, talk to you like shit and cheat and rob you, every time we accept orders from them.So if that makes me sound racist, so be it. It is a 100% factual observation of the behaviour I encounter daily. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinfoil Hat Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 11 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said: I wouldn't worry about it. It's something for my generation and zoomers to worry about as we're the ones that are probably going to experience being a hated minority in our own homeland in our liftetime. Not trying to sound morbid, but the baby boomer generation will mostly be gone by 2066. Ah, (in Harry Enfield mode) the sweet release of death! Well you will be if you place blame your own allies for all the world's woes instead of where it belongs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legion Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 14 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said: the idea of placing yourself inside a revolutionary movement and steering it in your direction. Blue Labour Blarites already used that idea to completely fuck up the most recent drift to 'proper Labour'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, Tinfoil Hat said: Ah, (in Harry Enfield mode) the sweet release of death! Well you will be if you place blame your own allies for all the world's woes instead of where it belongs I don't place the blame on all old people, calm down, but I can't help what other people think. Do you not think it makes me sad when I see veterans wondering what they fought for? The older generations were victims too. Do you not think I get annoyed when Far-Lefties say that the older Brexit voting generation needs to hurry up and die off? Edited September 7, 2022 by EnigmaticWorld 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinfoil Hat Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 36 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said: I don't place the blame on all old people, calm down, but I can't help what other people think. Do you not think it makes me sad when I see veterans wondering what they fought for? The older generations were victims too. Do you not think I get annoyed when Far-Lefties say that the older Brexit voting generation needs to hurry up and die off? I am calm. However, people telling me to calm down has the opposite effect. I expect it does as you seem like a decent person to me. Just don't like boomers getting unwarranted hate, or youngsters for that matter when we need to appreciate each others strengths and goodness, generally speaking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Tinfoil Hat said: I am calm. However, people telling me to calm down has the opposite effect. I expect it does as you seem like a decent person to me. Just don't like boomers getting unwarranted hate, or youngsters for that matter when we need to appreciate each others strengths and goodness, generally speaking. If youngsters are idiots, shame them, I don't care. Too many feral brats are causing problems out there, and too many are glued to TikTok. I don't think it's people getting angry at older folks on an individual level, just youngsters that are envious of a time when things weren't so hostile culturally. Look at the amount of nostalgia posts from young Right Wing wheat field posters for example. We're often looking back at past generations and wishing we could experience what they experienced, a time with more social cohesion. When my grandfather was alive, he used tell me how he could leave a job and find a new one the next day. I'm not saying everyone had it that easy, especially up north. There wasn't positive discrimination and diversity quotas then though. How do you think that makes me feel, as a person in an era where straight white males are discriminated against in the workforce? I'm not hard up so it's not lack of income or opportunity that bothers me, and I obviously wouldn't have blamed my grandfather, but it does make me wonder how things were allowed to get like this. It's nothing new though, this war has been going on for a couple of thousand years at least. I guess I'm just alive at a time when I'm going to see the endgame, now that elites have tech supremacy. You understand the demographic problems that we face, so why would I blame you? Edited September 7, 2022 by EnigmaticWorld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Anyone gone anywhere near that new Lord of The Rings series yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, Doc said: Anyone gone anywhere near that new Lord of The Rings series yet? No. If you're going to watch it then it's probably best to find a mirror online so you're at least not supporting them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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