Is there an agenda to reduce the White European population?

[EnigmaticWorld]

13 hours ago, Campion said:

I put the start of the West's decline at the time of the first world war.

 

 

[Macnamara]

Times Newspaper Highlights How “No White Men” Will Hold Major Office in New UK Government

by Paul Joseph Watson

September 5th 2022, 5:52 am

Another example of white male privilege?

 

The Times newspaper in the UK has published an article noting how “no white men” will hold major office in the new government, set to be led by Liz Truss.

Truss is widely expected to win the contest to become PM later today, defeating her only remaining opponent, Rishi Sunak, who is of Indian descent.

https://www.infowars.com/posts/times-newspaper-highlights-how-no-white-men-will-hold-major-office-in-new-uk-government/

[Macnamara]

12 hours ago, Campion said:

 SJ warriors have fallen for the deception about who is causing the injustice; with its conclusion that if we remove the white people (at least from power if not altogether), then the injustice will similarly disappear.

 

That's not what will happen. What will happen is a slide in collectivism in the form of sabbatean controlled technocracy

[Macnamara]

13 hours ago, Campion said:

I've noticed that a lot of people here talk about waking up or awaking to things like the conspiracies and cult agendas. Can the similarity be a coincidence? I'm picking up on this because I'm also interested in spirituality where people talk of having awakenings, this probably derives from Buddhism because Buddha means an awakened person. It's off topic here, so I'll take it up in another thread. 

 

rebirth as a process of transformation within the psyche is ancient as evidenced by myths so its not exclusively a buddhist thing

 

as for the use of the term 'woke' the democrats PROJECT so really they say the opposite of the truth for example you can hear biden saying that maga people are 'enemies of the constitution' (paraphrased) when clearly it is biden's regime that are trying to dismantle the constitution. Or you can hear him saying maga people are 'enemies of america' when its abundantly clear that it is the democrats that are dismantling america

 

so when they use the term 'woke' to describe their fevered anti-white racism what they really mean is an unstudied and irrational lashing out at a target population as they are steered by the corporate socialist elites into  race war

[Macnamara]

44 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

 

 

the problem has been the increasingly collectivist post war socialist governments who have discarded common law principles

[Macnamara]

14 hours ago, Campion said:

we have been ever more drawn into a life of technology and individualism under the umbrella of an increasingly powerful state. 

 

we don't live under individualism we live under corporate socialism which tells us we must all 'lockdown' and 'be vaccinated' for the 'common good'

 

If only we did have individualism!

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5 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

we don't live under individualism we live under corporate socialism which tells us we must all 'lockdown' and 'be vaccinated' for the 'common good'

 

If only we did have individualism!

 

We're not all locked down, Mac. And individualism got us in this mess. If you tell someone that they can't identify with their tribe, then it's understandable that they will replace their tribalism with something else which they feel gives them purpose, like jobsworth Covid wardens for example.

[EnigmaticWorld]

Maybe a better term for white westerners is racially individualist. As a group, we are weak and deracinated. It's hard to deny that at this point, it's too apparent.

[EnigmaticWorld]

I would also argue that most people allowed themselves to be locked down because they're too scared of losing their comfort blankets, and they didn't want to rock the boat too much. The average normie does not identify with terms like corporate socialism, that's just a system that they live under. They just want to live in their bubbles, engrossed in their bread and circus slop. This is why it's hard to wake a lot of people up. You can explain unpleasant truths to them, and they will often agree with what you're telling them, but then they're just like "what can I do, I'm just trying worry about my own life". They're hedonistic and often not really bothered as long as they think their life is still okay.

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1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

 

That's not what will happen. What will happen is a slide in collectivism in the form of sabbatean controlled technocracy

 

I agree with this. That would be a bad form of collectvism though. Not all collectivist ideology is the same. If Europeans started to stand together and say enough, is that not collectivizing?

 

When the Baltic states linked arms in protest against Communism, was that not also a collective effort?

 

I get that you think creating a parallel society and becoming self-sustainable is the answer, but like I said before, that's just buying time. When you have nutters that are anti-private property, how do plan to defend your land on your own? Surely it takes a collective effort to defend the rights of the individual.

Edited September 6, 2022 by EnigmaticWorld

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1 hour ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

I agree with this. That would be a bad form of collectvism though. Not all collectivist ideology is the same.

 

So you think that big government is ok just as long as you can get your guy in there? if you can just get your guy in there government will do its job and rescue us from being over run

 

Well lets consider some things. Lets consider that we won't be able to get hold of the government as the power structure is well entrenched and they will kill to hold onto power. Then lets consider that they succeed into making us into a minority. If collectivism and rule by the majority rules then what's to stop that new majority turning on us with all the power of the state which is being held onto by the corporate socialists?

 

Do you have to wait that long to experience what it is to be a minority? No you don't: are the unjabbed not a minority? Were they not at least for a while a despised minority?

 

If we all make a moral case for collectivism then how can we then complain when they turn around and say 'we must mandate covid jabs this winter and those dangerous and reckless unjabbed MUST be tracked down to their homes and force vaccinated''?

 

does that sound like a good thing? if not then you better start making the case for our individual rights

 

1 hour ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

If Europeans started to stand together and say enough, is that not collectivizing?

 

why can they not stand by certain principles?

 

1 hour ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

When the Baltic states linked arms in protest against Communism, was that not also a collective effort?

 

when they conscripted millions of men in world war 1 and 2 to fight germans was that not a collectivised effort 'for the greater good'? what about your individual right to not take part in such manipulated nonsense?

 

1 hour ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

I get that you think creating a parallel society and becoming self-sustainable is the answer, but like I said before, that's just buying time. When you have nutters that are anti-private property, how do plan to defend your land on your own? Surely it takes a collective effort to defend the rights of the individual.

 

those elites are not individualist. They are collectivists who perceive themselves to be part of a group. Its their collectivism that has caused these problems in the first place and communism is simply their way of mainstreaming that collectivism

 

As for people working together is it not possible to cooperate around principles without living by the belief that government can and should solve all of our problems? Did for example the founders of america not write a constitution to limit the powers of the majority/big government whilst at the same time cooperating on mutual defence around their principles?

 

of course it requires people to understand what those principles are and why it is important to defend them

Edited September 6, 2022 by Macnamara

[EnigmaticWorld]

 

Not all baby boomers, but older folk should recognize that a lot of younger folk are angry about inheriting a world that is against us. We didn't have the luxury of just working and worrying about our own lives. I can understand the mind control as older folks grew up with stupid Hogan Hero caricatures, so I get that they're often confused and equate all evils with Nazism. We're more anti TV than the previous generation. We're becoming more well read by the day, and trying to understand why the world is like it is. Then people tell us that we're bad for thinking about organizing against those that hate us.

 

 

Edited September 6, 2022 by EnigmaticWorld

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2 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

So you think that big government mportant to defend them

 

I'm pro government, yes. I think Europeans, on our own, have done well with government, as long we're ruled over by our own people. Not a fan of big government micromanaging every part of our lives though unless you're at war and need to be powerful. It should be more of a direct democracy like the Greeks had though, with harsh punishments for traitors.

 

6 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

Well lets consider some things. Lets consider that we won't be able to get hold of the government as the power structure is well entrenched and they will kill to hold onto power. Then lets consider that they succeed into making us into a minority. If collectivism and rule by the majority rules then what's to stop that new majority turning on us with all the power of the state which is being held onto by the corporate socialists?

 

Do you have to wait that long to experience what it is to be a minority? No you don't: are the unjabbed not a minority? Were they not at least for a while a despised minority?

 

If we all make a moral case for collectivism then how can we then complain when they turn around and say 'we must mandate covid jabs this winter and those dangerous and reckless unjabbed MUST be tracked down to their homes and force vaccinated''

 

does that sound like a good thing?nciples are and why it is important to defend them

 

Is this one of those we can't be like our enemy arguments? How long are we going to say "but what if the roles were reversed?", until we get lined up against the wall?

 

10 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

why can they not stand by certain principles?re and why it is important to defend them

 

You can stand on your own, but you will also get crushed quicker on your own.

 

11 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

those elites are not individualist. They are collectivists who perceive themselves to be part of a group. Its their collectivism that has caused these problems in the first place and communism is simply their way of mainstreaming that collectivism

 

Exactly. They value their lineage and tell us that's evil when we want to protect ours.

 

12 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

As for people working together is it not possible to cooperate around principles without living by the belief that government can and should solve all of our problems?

 

Where did I say that the government should solve all of our problems? I would make the right to bear arms legal so we can defend ourselves, and I definitely wouldn't want them meddling in all of our affairs.

[EnigmaticWorld]

What's the answer to POC collectivizing against us? Just run to the hills and wait for them to come for you?

[Macnamara]

11 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

Where did I say that the government should solve all of our problems? I would make the right to bear arms legal so we can defend ourselves, and I definitely wouldn't want them meddling in all of our affairs.

 

sounds more like individualism

[Macnamara]

6 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

What's the answer to POC collectivizing against us? Just run to the hills and wait for them to come for you?

 

i think in the short term we need to make it through this winter without being jabbed, starved, frozen or 'quarantined' and that requires the majority of brits of any colour defending the ancient common law rights of these isles which say that as long as we are not harming anyone or damaging anyones property and are honouring our contracts we can do what we like including NOT accepting jabs from the government and leaving our homes when we damn well please

[EnigmaticWorld]

I don't get the principle point either. What's so bad about looking after your people?

[EnigmaticWorld]

2 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

the majority of brits of any colour defending the ancient common law rights of these isles which say that as long as we are not harming anyone or damaging anyones property

 

This assumes that everyone in these isles shares or even likes British values.

[EnigmaticWorld]

7 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

sounds more like individualism

 

One armed man can not defend his entire nation.

[Macnamara]

36 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 Then people tell us that we're bad for thinking about organizing against those that hate us.

 

the boomers were not individualists

 

they have accepted the growth of government to penetrate every single area of our life

 

their acceptance of the expansion of government is what has paved the way to the full-blown micro-management of technocracy

 

lets consider also that the migrants pouring into britain on planes are being legalised by the government who signed the Un migrant compact of the ultimate collectivist body: the united nations

 

Lets also consider that the migrants crossing the channel are not actually crossing the channel in dinghies. they are only using dinghies to push off the physical ground of france where they then alert the british border force who then themselves cross the channel and go into french territorial waters where they then load the migrants onto that government craft which then ships them over the channel as a ferry service of the collectivised and globalised british government which then tells us that their actions are made 'for the greater good' of the global community

Edited September 6, 2022 by Macnamara

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11 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

This assumes that everyone in these isles shares or even likes British values.

 

many of them have been brainwashed to believe in collectivism so that they believe that government has the right to do whatever it likes

 

so they need to overcome that brainwashing by realising that the government nor any majority (whether real or fake such as the rigged election in the US recently which has led the democrats to falsely claim they represent the democratic majority) has the right to trample on their individual rights

 

they can't take their guns or force jab them nor flood them with illegal immigrants

Edited September 6, 2022 by Macnamara

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16 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

many of them have been brainwashed to believe in collectivism so that they believe that government has the right to do whatever it likes

 

so they need to overcome that brainwashing by realising that the government nor any majority (whether real or fake such as the rigged election in the US recently which has led the democrats to falsely claim they represent the democratic majority) has the right to trample in their individual rights

 

Many are not though. Many are from competing tribes that want their own system in Britain. I totally agree that the few at the top are collectivist, but I'm not sure about the average person. Just because someone allows the government to bully them, that doesn't mean they that they were collectively coming up with all these evil agendas with the government. Their compliance helps the government, sure. I don't think it's always a case of people agreeing with the governments supremacy though. Like I said, some just don't want to rock the boat, and were scared by fear mongering.

 

And regarding the vax point. Surely a government that cared about us wouldn't poison us.

 

16 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

(whether real or fake such as the rigged election in the US recently which has led the democrats to falsely claim they represent the democratic majority) has the right to trample in their individual rightss

 

Agreed. Woke Republicans that keep capitulating and virtue signalling to show how they're just as progressive don't help either.

Edited September 6, 2022 by EnigmaticWorld

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7 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

Many are not though. Many are from competing tribes that want their own system in Britain. I totally agree that the few at the top are collectivist, but I'm not sure about the average person. Just because someone allows the government to bully them, that doesn't mean they that they were

collectively coming up with all these evil agendas with the government. Their compliance helps the government, sure. I don't think it's always a case of people agreeing with the governments supremacy though. Like I said, some just don't want to rock the boat, and were scared by fear mongering.

 

they believe that its the governments job to fix all problems and as a result they agree to handing over most of their wealth to government which government then spraffs away on various useless 'initiatives' (i think the bloated NHS takes something like 45% of the budget)

 

a population who were opposed to that on principle would not tolerate that

 

7 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

And regarding the vax point. Surely a government that cared about us wouldn't poison us.

 

is a government that cares about us going to be able to always create a one size fits all solution to everything? isn't that kind of thinking the problem with the NHS that says we must all have certain drugs or medical interventions even though they know that they will hurt a certain number of people?

 

7 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

Agreed. Woke Republicans that keep capitulating and virtue signalling to show how they're just as progressive don't help either.

 

i think they are called 'rinos' (republicans in name only) aren't they? They are not defending the republic. They are picking at the fabric of society

Edited September 6, 2022 by Macnamara

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I think people collectivize around certain things, like sportsball for example. But a part of that is just the men in society with the most testorone seeking socialliy acceptable forms of tribalism. The same people that should be defending their nation, not fighting over men kicking a ball around. That just makes me think of that old quote about a society that separates its scholars from its warriors, will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting done by fools.

Edited September 6, 2022 by EnigmaticWorld

[Macnamara]

1 minute ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

I think people collectivize around certain things, like sportsball for example. But a part of that is just the men in society with the most testorone seeking socialliy acceptable forms of tribalism. The same people the should be defending their nation, not fighting over men kicking a ball around. That just makes me think of that old quote about a society that separates its scholars from its warriors, will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting done by fools.

 

what they should be defending is the truth and peoples natural law rights so that those are upheld as the common law

 

this would then ensure freedom for the many