Is there an agenda to reduce the White European population?

[ManxCat3]

14 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

 

 

Also they want to remove peoples ancestral claim to land and the way they do that is by destroying the target population demographically.

 

 

Happened in britain 1000 years ago when the normans decided the whole thing belongs to them, been the same way ever since. It was most likely the "working class" people who lived on the land freely before they came or maybe further back.

[Macnamara]

2 hours ago, ManxCat3 said:

Happened in britain 1000 years ago when the normans decided the whole thing belongs to them, been the same way ever since. It was most likely the "working class" people who lived on the land freely before they came or maybe further back.

 

Yes but there were people coming in from other parts too for example flemish. Imo these people were part of a pan-european network of jewish families that stretched out and across the middle east

 

William the conqueror may himself have had jewish heritage and the administrators he tasked with creating the 'doomsday book' and 'exchequer' tax system were jewish.

 

The reason we have so many castles in britain is to control the native population not necessarily to repel foreign invaders

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[Macnamara]

16 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

I get that. I'm just saying there is more to ethnicity and culture, but often leftists think we're all obssessed with skin colour. I'm sure as a Scot, that you wouldn't want to be replaced by other white people from a different country, so to me it's not just about colour.

 

yes it's not all about skin colour. I think its about breaking down everything that went before including culture, religion, economy and history so that a confused soup of people is created who have no idea of their own past and who are deskilled and completely dependent on the corporate technocracy

 

In africa such a person is said to be 'lost'

 

This then becomes a state of helpless enslavement and the confused people will be too disunited to make a coherent opposition to the agenda

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[Macnamara]

14 hours ago, MarpatV2 said:

You would say they look Asian, not Chinese.

 

I thought you were into freedom of movement, etc? if people are free to move where they want there is always the chance that white people may move away from colder climates and other ethnic minorities may move into those places. White people have been imposed on various places throughout the world, to severe detriment of native populations and yet white people complain about being replaced by foreigners. I think its just people who are afraid of outsiders.

 

i don't agree with what has been done to native peoples around the world but that colonialism has been carried out by a network of bloodline families

 

For example the western seaboard of africa was explored and then exploited (for slaves) by the order of christ which was a crypto-jewish knights templar order that renamed itself when the templars were persecuted in france

 

The crypto-jewish templars created the state of portugal and their grandmaster was henry the navigator who was one of those explorers

 

The triangular trade that was created across the atlantic of sugar, tobacco and slaves was completely dominated by that jewish network

 

One story that is not being told out there is that the templars also created the state of scotland.

 

That network was behind the dutch east india company and the east india company

 

Many of the 'white' people who moved were actually crypto-jewish converso 'protestants' (oftentimes they fled the spanish inquisition) or they were white people driven off their land by the network eg by the clearances (eg highland and lowland) or through deportations or as indentured labour (some places like australia or the carribean acted as penal colonies for prisoners, political or otherwise) so there is a more accurate version of history that is not being told here so that the network can demonise white people and blame them for everything to hide their own crimes

 

As for freedom of movement that would be a nice thing in the decentralised world that i would like to see but we don't live in that world at the moment. We live in a world shaped by the mercantalism of the sabbatean network and as a result of that people want to move in ways that they otherwise wouldn't naturally choose

 

As for natural law rights we have to consider the effects of our actions on others; for example can you just move into an area that someone else is living and farming and claim it for yourself? That would be theft

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[Macnamara]

14 hours ago, MarpatV2 said:

But surely you must see ancestry is an illusion? it doesnt give ownership of land or any right to it. Celts didnt originate in any part of the UK but came from eastern Europe. Hanging onto ancestral claims is just hanging onto the past, which could be detrimental.

 

Genetics has destroyed the idea that groups came into britain and wiped out the people already there. They didn't, they just interbred with them

 

For example the anglo-saxons inter-bred with the celts and the vikings inter-bred with the gaels and so on. In fact iceland was settled by viking men and their gaelic wives

 

So many british people ARE native or indigenous, however you want to put it

 

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So why do you claim christianity has God given rights? can you pick them out of the bible and explain why you think other religions dont have divine rights? are you claiming that adherence to certain religions gives divine rights, like kings use to claim their power?

 

I don't think it applies soley to christians no

 

I think ALL human beings have inalienable rights given to them by the creator regardless of their religion or non religion

 

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I think you over exaggerate all of this to fit the narrative you want to believe. Free speech has limits as far as I'm concerned as there are too many people out there willing to use such freedoms to cause all sorts of problems. True free speech comes with responsibility yet people think it should allow them to say what they want without consequences.

 

you sound like the kind of person who is irked by people saying the truth

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[rideforever]

There is always an agenda to reduce natural power.

This is a dark force that life uses to force us to grow.

All life is growing.

In this world and beyond it.

It's good if you get the message.

We are fucking lazy after all, be grateful for the challenge otherwise we are just sofamonkeys eating Doritos.

[MarpatV2]

1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

 

Genetics has destroyed the idea that groups came into britain and wiped out the people already there. They didn't, they just interbred with them

 

For example the anglo-saxons inter-bred with the celts and the vikings inter-bred with the gaels and so on. In fact iceland was settled by viking men and their gaelic wives

 

So many british people ARE native or indigenous, however you want to put it

 

 

I don't think it applies soley to christians no

 

I think ALL human beings have inalienable rights given to them by the creator regardless of their religion or non religion

 

 

you sound like the kind of person who is irked by people saying the truth

Lol, so you think the creator made you as a specific race in a specific location and gave you special status? Sounds like a lab experiment what you are claiming.

 

If I was irked by truth then I would find no issues with your posts.

[MarpatV2]

1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

 

i don't agree with what has been done to native peoples around the world but that colonialism has been carried out by a network of bloodline families

 

For example the western seaboard of africa was explored and then exploited (for slaves) by the order of christ which was a crypto-jewish knights templar order that renamed itself when the templars were persecuted in france

 

The crypto-jewish templars created the state of portugal and their grandmaster was henry the navigator who was one of those explorers

 

The triangular trade that was created across the atlantic of sugar, tobacco and slaves was completely dominated by that jewish network

 

One story that is not being told out there is that the templars also created the state of scotland.

 

That network was behind the dutch east india company and the east india company

 

Many of the 'white' people who moved were actually crypto-jewish converso 'protestants' (oftentimes they fled the spanish inquisition) or they were white people driven off their land by the network eg by the clearances (eg highland and lowland) or through deportations or as indentured labour (some places like australia or the carribean acted as penal colonies for prisoners, political or otherwise) so there is a more accurate version of history that is not being told here so that the network can demonise white people and blame them for everything to hide their own crimes

 

As for freedom of movement that would be a nice thing in the decentralised world that i would like to see but we don't live in that world at the moment. We live in a world shaped by the mercantalism of the sabbatean network and as a result of that people want to move in ways that they otherwise wouldn't naturally choose

 

As for natural law rights we have to consider the effects of our actions on others; for example can you just move into an area that someone else is living and farming and claim it for yourself? That would be theft

Lol, crypto jews. Some jews had to pretend they adopted Catholicism to avoid being murdered, which is not a bad reason. TBH my sympathies would be with such people as the catholic rulers of the time were just a bunch of vicious murderers. I would even support them if they did their best to undermined such a cruel and violent system.

 

Natural law doesnt recognise theft. Its recognises strength. Theft implies ownership and people dont own land unless they can hold it by force, if required.

 

If jews helped people travel around the world then so what? what is your big problem with that? you always seem to suggest that people have only been successful when they have had jewish help, which doesn't look bad for them. Maybe they are just smarter people?

[MarpatV2]

15 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

Could also be a positive thing. A people that feels attached to their heritage will surely be harder to deracinate and destroy.

 

 

To a certain extent I agree. Bloody smut pushers poisoning my people do my head in.

This is true but how many wars have been fought over land because people believed they owned it? look at Jerusalem, all the killing done there by various religions who think they have a special claim. If its true that victory can only come from God then we must accept that he has rejected christianity, which was born there and defeated.

[Truthspoon]

11 minutes ago, MarpatV2 said:

Lol, crypto jews. Some jews had to pretend they adopted Catholicism to avoid being murdered, which is not a bad reason. TBH my sympathies would be with such people as the catholic rulers of the time were just a bunch of vicious murderers. I would even support them if they did their best to undermined such a cruel and violent system.

 

As usual you're lying.

 

The Jews had infiltrated Christianity in Spain for their own purposes, and it was only as a result of this that the Church had to respond with the Inquisition to find the Jews who were trying to destroy the church from within.

 

However as we know, the Jews won the day because they created the Jesuits as a secret society which unless you were a Jew, it was impossible to advance. 

 

It was only long after the whole secret infrastructure of the Jesuits had been formed that the Church realised they had a problem with Jews destroying the church, and although they sought to prevent Jews entering the Jesuits, it was already too late since the engine of corruption had already been completed and could happily run no matter who was apparently in the organisation.

 

 

 

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[MarpatV2]

Just now, Truthspoon said:

 

As usual you're lying.

 

The Jews had infiltrated Christianity in Spain for their own purposes, and it was only as a result of this that the Church had to respond with the Inquisition to find the Jews who were trying to destroy the church from within.

 

However as we know, the Jews won the day because they created the Jesuits as a secret society which unless you were a Jew, it was impossible to advance. 

lol, there you go again, blaming jews. Your theory sounds like a great excuse to go on a killing spree of anybody who might have jewish sympathies, origins, or heritage. The inquisition is a monstrous organisation of sick and twisted people. 

 

Like I said before, if they have to assume a secret identity to survive then my sympathies are with them, not with those who would kill them for not converting.

[Macnamara]

24 minutes ago, MarpatV2 said:

Lol, so you think the creator made you as a specific race in a specific location and gave you special status? Sounds like a lab experiment what you are claiming.

 

I think that the creator endowed us all with natural law rights

 

I think that people have always moved around to a certain extent when left to their own devices and I have no problem with some movement.

 

What i'm talking about here is a deliberate PROCESS that has been carried out against humanity. The point that i am trying to make in this thread, albeit in a very piecemeal way is that when say black people speak about a process of 'colonisation' where they are dispossessed and culturally and sometimes physically genocided that the same process has also been carried out against white people for centuries

 

Its only being spun now that 'white people' are behind that process because people are becoming more aware of their history now and a certain guilty party want to try and hide their own role in that process and they do it by trying to place everything at the door of 'white people'

 

24 minutes ago, MarpatV2 said:

If I was irked by truth then I would find no issues with your posts.

 

i think you are only anti-free speech because you have something to hide

[MarpatV2]

3 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

I think that the creator endowed us all with natural law rights

 

I think that people have always moved around to a certain extent when left to their own devices and I have no problem with some movement.

 

What i'm talking about here is a deliberate PROCESS that has been carried out against humanity. The point that i am trying to make in this thread, albeit in a very piecemeal way is that when say black people speak about a process of 'colonisation' where they are dispossessed and culturally and sometimes physically genocided that the same process has also been carried out against white people for centuries

 

Its only being spun now that 'white people' are behind that process because people are becoming more aware of their history now and a certain guilty party want to try and hide their own role in that process and they do it by trying to place everything at the door of 'white people'

 

 

i think you are only anti-free speech because you have something to hide

The problem is that some people live in good areas and some dont, so they try to take a piece. Do you think people are just going to sit in some shitty desert or mountain if they hear there is fertile land and water sources elsewhere, especially when the survival of their people is at stake?

 

White people have invaded every part of the world.  No point in denying it or trying to blame jews for it.

[Macnamara]

23 minutes ago, MarpatV2 said:

Lol, crypto jews. Some jews had to pretend they adopted Catholicism to avoid being murdered, which is not a bad reason.

 

No the catholics didn't just decide to have an inquisition. They were reacting to forces they saw as trying to undermine their entire civilisation. Usually they responded without murder by expelling the people they saw as a problem. Lots of places expelled jews and i would say that it is because of the actions of this sabbatean cult that I am trying to bring into the light of day. It is because of their actions that jews have faced persecution

 

23 minutes ago, MarpatV2 said:

TBH my sympathies would be with such people as the catholic rulers of the time were just a bunch of vicious murderers. I would even support them if they did their best to undermined such a cruel and violent system.

 

No i think you support them because you are a sabbatean yourself

 

23 minutes ago, MarpatV2 said:

Natural law doesnt recognise theft. Its recognises strength. Theft implies ownership and people dont own land unless they can hold it by force, if required.

 

I disagree

 

But if you are making an argument for the use of force then you are making an argument for the most extreme kind of behaviour that is so feared by the media and the police. That is the implication of what you are saying there....that people should violently fight off people. That's a very hardline view!

 

23 minutes ago, MarpatV2 said:

If jews helped people travel around the world then so what?

 

No they themselves moved around the world. They have helped people move around as slaves though yes and nowadays they are moving people round as economic migrants in order to socially engineer target populations but the point is that it affects the migrant too because they then lose connection to their own past and culture so it affects everyone

 

23 minutes ago, MarpatV2 said:

what is your big problem with that? you always seem to suggest that people have only been successful when they have had jewish help, which doesn't look bad for them. Maybe they are just smarter people?

 

No i think the world could be in a much better state if it weren't for the PROCESS that has been carried out

 

I think if we are going to have all these discussions about race and so on that we should do it honestly and that means we need to push back against this current reframing of history that is being carried out by neo-marxists

[Macnamara]

2 minutes ago, MarpatV2 said:

The problem is that some people live in good areas and some dont, so they try to take a piece. Do you think people are just going to sit in some shitty desert or mountain if they hear there is fertile land and water sources elsewhere, especially when the survival of their people is at stake?

 

no it's not that simple. Millions of people have come to britain from perfectly fertile parts of europe because of the exchange rate of currency. they will simply make more working the same hours in britain and that imbalance exists because of the current mercantalist system created by the network

2 minutes ago, MarpatV2 said:

White people have invaded every part of the world.  No point in denying it or trying to blame jews for it.

 

that is the story that needs to be explored because much of what is being blamed on 'whites' was actually carried out by the freemasons who are at the top none other than this sabbatean jewish network i'm talking about

[Macnamara]

1 hour ago, MarpatV2 said:

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no its the other way around

 

christians will be persecuted by a network of people who have moved in and taken things over

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[MarpatV2]

1 minute ago, Macnamara said:

 

No the catholics didn't just decide to have an inquisition. They were reacting to forces they saw as trying to undermine their entire civilisation. Usually they responded without murder by expelling the people they saw as a problem. Lots of places expelled jews and i would say that it is because of the actions of this sabbatean cult that I am trying to bring into the light of day. It is because of their actions that jews have faced persecution[/quote]

 

You are trying to twist people by using any form of deception and distortion you can. It wont achieve anything

1 minute ago, Macnamara said:

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No i think you support them because you are a sabbatean yourself

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How does that work. Im not jewish nor looking for the messiah

 

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But if you are making an argument for the use of force then you are making an argument for the most extreme kind of behaviour that is so feared by the media and the police. That is the implication of what you are saying there....that people should violently fight off people. That's a very hardline view! [/quote]

Force can be limted to what is actually necessary. You see everything in terms of extremes, which is common for the mentally ill.

 

[Macnamara]

3 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

It is a known fact, at least to historical scholars,  that the Inquisition was created as a result of Jewish infiltration of the church.

 

The qatuor coronati freemasonic lodge that i mentioned earlier was named after 4 jews who infiltrated the roman craft guilds

 

That lodge also has ties to various fabians who were instrumental in creating the new age religion

[Truthspoon]

Just now, Macnamara said:

 christians will be persecuted by a network of people who have moved in and taken things over

 

And you better believe Marpat will be the first one to sign up.... though I suspect he's already got the job.

 

I bet he's sharpening his Guillotine as we speak.

 

 

[Macnamara]

Just now, MarpatV2 said:

You are trying to twist people by using any form of deception and distortion you can. It wont achieve anything

Force can be limted to what is actually necessary. You see everything in terms of extremes, which is common for the mentally ill.

 

vague points and i don't really understand the points you are trying to make because they are just vague and personalised attacks

 

please be more specific and i will answer to your points

[MarpatV2]

1 minute ago, Macnamara said:

 

The qatuor coronati freemasonic lodge that i mentioned earlier was named after 4 jews who infiltrated the roman craft guilds

 

That lodge also has ties to various fabians who were instrumental in creating the new age religion

There is no such thing as new age religion. 

[MarpatV2]

6 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

no its the other way around

 

christians will be persecuted by a network of people who have moved in and taken things over

I guess you just invert the truth

[Macnamara]

59 minutes ago, MarpatV2 said:

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Well some of my ancestors were freemasons from an area where this network was very active and they were engaged in some of the businesses common for that network so its possible I am of their bloodlines. One of my ancestors was a freemasonic grandmaster

 

I DEFINATELY have jewish ancestry on the other side but from more recent jewish incomers

 

So what has happened is that i have always been a very curious person about the world and wanted to know more. i went through a leftie stage in my teens and early twenties because i wanted a fairer world. I still want a fairer world but have become very skeptical of the authoritarian left which i now see as an instrument of the very corporate forces that i saw as the problem in my teens.

 

I learned more about the banking side after the 2008 economic crisis and had cause to learn about the occult side of things. I was pursuing my own research into an area of interest that took me down certain rabbit holes for example freemasonry, templarism and the occult. Those areas all melded together

 

What I have learned in that process is that scotland is completely run by freemasons and that they evolved out of the knights templar. I also learned that the knights templar were themselves aristocratic families who were kabbalist crypto-jews. The ones who wore white tunics were anyway. the lower orders in black tunics weren't aristocrats

 

I didn't go looking for a jewish connection i just found it. When i started the process i was very favourable to jews and noam chomsky was a hero of mine and as i said i flirted with the left and read marx and so on

 

I'm simply telling you what i have found. So for example many of the jewish families that came into scotland settled in the south west and its from that area that vigorous protestantism came and of course those people then settled in ulster in ireland where the gaels were genocided

 

The clearances, the potato famine, the troubles...they all stem from this story

 

The orange order that is the militant force behind that colonialism of northern ireland is itself FREEMASONIC and names itself after william of orange whose invasion of britain was bankrolled by the dutch jews who also controlled that sugar trade i mentioned earlier. In return william helped that jewish network move its base of operations from holland to the city of london

 

 

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[Macnamara]

14 minutes ago, MarpatV2 said:

There is no such thing as new age religion. 

 

i disagree. I also think that your thelemic religion is a new age religion that is literally calling for the new aeon

 

what i'm saying is that there is a push coming out of freemasonry around the fin de siecle to create a new age religion in the same way that they created wahabbism

[DarianF]

16 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

My ancestry is not an illusion either. Thanks.

 

Imagine fully realizing who and what you are. The potential that resides in you, the lineage.

In you resides the blood of Kings, of Emperors, Masters of Land, Sea, and Air.

 

Our history is one of repelling invasion after invasion.

 

With strong men side by side, blood brothers eager to fight or die.

 

Whether Greek, or German, Polish or Norwegian. This invasion threatens us all. Our very shared history, our lands, our race, is threatened. Fear not words slung by incompetents, fear not the politician who is corrupt to the core. Fear the consequences of not acting. Fear the future world your children will suffer in.

 

This war is personal. We do not fight it in a far off land, we fight it where we live. In our homes, in the places our children dwell.

 

We fight this war for the very soil our ancestors cultivated for thousands of years. For the blood that nourished the soil. Our enemies mock us at every turn, they use every dirty tactic to undermine, to traumatize, to kill us. Culturally, racially.

 

They line their pockets with money, printed with our blood. This is a very personal war.

 

We do not kneel.