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18 minutes ago, Captainlove said:

Why cant you use olive for frying?

I do and it seems fine.


Olive oil starts smoking as the temperature rises (moreso compared to, say, sunflower oil), so it's maybe not so good for very hot frying (stir frying etc). Seems okay for shallow frying at lower temps.


From my own experience extra virgin olive oil starts smoking at even lower temps than regular olive oil. 


I know a guy who deep fries with olive oil and his kitchen doesn't noticeably stink of smoke. 


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17 minutes ago, DaleP said:


Because every oil has a different saturation temperature and olive oil and avocado oil have a low saturation point so not good for frying. OK for salad dressing.

Olive oil has a cooking temp of 250 degrees so should be ok.

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Ray peat said sugar is important for the brain and the real villain is grains and wheat. 

Know a someone in the Brazilian jiujitsu world  who tried many diets to fix his heart problems and following Ray peat did the most good.

He had tried paleo


Low carb etc

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Study: Eating more than 2 tablespoons of sugar a day increases your risk of 45 chronic diseases

A team of Chinese researchers reviewed all available studies comparing dietary sugar consumption and health outcomes in people who were previously free from acute or chronic diseases. The researchers found several harmful associations between dietary sugar consumption and chronic diseases. It turns out, eating more than two tablespoons of sugar per day (25 grams) increases one’s risk of forty-five chronic diseases, including heart disease, high blood pressure, diabetes, asthma, gout, tooth decay, depression, and pancreatic cancer. Their umbrella review included 73 studies from 8,600 articles and was published in the British Medical Journal.

Increased sugar consumption is linked to coronary heart disease, diabetes, pancreatic cancer

The researchers found that sugar increases one’s risk of ten different cardiovascular outcomes, seven different cancers, and eighteen endocrine and metabolic disorders. Ten other neuropsychiatric, dental, hepatic, osteal, and allergic outcomes were also associated with sugar consumption greater than 25 grams per day.

Individuals who consumed sugar-sweetened beverages were more likely to have higher ectopic fatty accumulation and increased body weight. These drinks include carbonated and non-carbonated soft drinks, fruit drinks, and sports and energy drinks. Greater than one serving of these beverages per week is linked to higher rates of breast, prostate, and pancreatic tumors. Moreover, each additional 250mL/day of sugar sweetened beverage increases the risk of gout by 4%, the risk of coronary heart disease by 17%, and the risk of all-cause mortality by 4%.


Added sugars in the diet also cause fatty liver disease and the development of fat in the muscle tissue. Increased sugar intake is also associated with higher LDL cholesterol levels, childhood obesity, and latent autoimmune diseases in adults. The study also found that a 25g/day increase in fructose consumption was associated with a 22% increase in pancreatic cancer.

The authors conclude that “limiting the consumption of sugar sweetened beverages to less than one serving/week (approximately 200-355 mL/week) are recommended to reduce the adverse effect of sugars on health.”

High fructose corn syrup is the main culprit behind today’s chronic diseases

“The umbrella review shows that high dietary sugar consumption, especially intake of sugars that contain fructose, is harmfully associated with large numbers of health outcomes,” says Associate Professor Liangren Liu of the West China Hospital at Sichuan University.

High fructose corn syrup (HFCS) is the main culprit behind today’s increasing chronic diseases and all the underlying comorbidities behind infectious disease mortality. HFCS is the public health crisis, for it is added to a variety of products throughout the Standard American Diet and is intentionally formulated to addict consumer’s brains to the products.

The higher ratio of fructose to glucose in HFCS is intended to addict the brain. Researchers have found that this higher ratio of fructose causes “both neural and physiological changes associated with addictive and metabolic diseases.”

While the body needs some sugar to function at the cellular level, too much sugar quickly deteriorates the lipid composition of cell membranes. Research shows that excess sugars in the body convert to a fatty acid that disrupts the makeup of the cell membranes, lowering the concentration of polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFAs). By lowering the concentration of PUFAs in the mitochondrial membrane of cells, excess sugars put stress on the mitochondria, damaging the efficiency of these all-important energy centers throughout the body.

A sugar rush, whether from a juice box, a cola, or a sports drink, is not sustainable energy. When sustainable cellular energy is lost, one feels ongoing bouts of fatigue and tiredness throughout the day. Many people reach for a sugary drink to combat this fatigue, but this only perpetuates a vicious cycle of disease and energy loss. This ongoing tiredness and fatigue is the result of excess sugar harming the mitochondria and stopping it from efficiently carrying out the Krebs’s energy cycle.



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