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You are always bound.

You are either bound unconsciously to the mortal realm of sheeple.

Or through effort and struggle and dedication you become on of the few that breaks away by binding himself to the Truth.

Truth does not float for free ... if it did every sheeple would have it.

But it does not work like that.

Can you become wise without effort?  Can you do anything without effort?
Can any tree or animal get anywhere without effort?
No.
If Truth was free and ready inside you then everyone would already be enlightened.

But they are not.

Buddha had to earn it, he damn near died, and many others did die.

It is better that it is not for free otherwise 9Bn twats who vomit all over you at the summit of the mountain, instead you would find only few.

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14 minutes ago, rideforever said:

You are always bound.

You are either bound unconsciously to the mortal realm of sheeple.

Or through effort and struggle and dedication you become on of the few that breaks away by binding himself to the Truth.

Truth does not float for free ... if it did every sheeple would have it.

But it does not work like that.

Can you become wise without effort?  Can you do anything without effort?
Can any tree or animal get anywhere without effort?
No.
If Truth was free and ready inside you then everyone would already be enlightened.

But they are not.

Buddha had to earn it, he damn near died, and many others did die.

It is better that it is not for free otherwise 9Bn twats who vomit all over you at the summit of the mountain, instead you would find only few.

You are bound by yourself. Your actions bind yourself to this dimension of hypocrisy. 

You resonate with the earth, by doing this you have a waveform. 

A sine wave. This action creates a magnetic flux around you. Trapping you here in this electromagnetic trap. This also creates transformer action. Your body is two opposed races one dead one alive. As you resonate the dead race feeds off you. 

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15 hours ago, DougASmall said:

You are bound by yourself. Your actions bind yourself to this dimension of hypocrisy. 

You resonate with the earth, by doing this you have a waveform. 

A sine wave. This action creates a magnetic flux around you. Trapping you here in this electromagnetic trap. This also creates transformer action. Your body is two opposed races one dead one alive. As you resonate the dead race feeds off you. 

your waveform is not a sinewave, it is a complex multiplex and resembles white noise

 

there is no electromagnetic trap, absolute foolishness, you are the "magnetic trap" through your bodily transformer that steps down consciousness into human understanding and then redistributes that conscious energy through works

 

the dead feeding off the living is preposterous, death is an illusion and holds zero influence over the reality of life, death is the process of change(which is itself life) not an entity or force

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6 minutes ago, killing raven sun said:

your waveform is not a sinewave, it is a complex multiplex and resembles white noise

i think alot of superstitions are born from belief in the paintings painted to describe something more complex. When the more complex thing is revealled, people scream in terror at its sight: In the reality we are supposed to be matchstick men with matchstick cats and dogs, this is hell if that damned cat has me wrapped around its tail.

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Emerald Table of Thoth:
"As above so below".

Out of much debris and material in the sky only a few become suns.

Out of the 10,000 acorn one becomes an oak.

As Buddha taught in 4 noble truths, 3: there is a path out of here, 4: it can be taught.

In Zen it says Buddha taught mind to mind ... i.e. through transmission.

 

Christianity is that transmission.

And there is no mistake that this transmission was high which lead to the West having and still having the highest legal system on the planet, and today even in India they are developing ... by copying Western (Christian) models.

Because it is the highest.

They are not returning to the Vedas of which they have lost interest.

 

The product of the West 2 or 3 hundred years ago are the incredible Churches and Cathedrals in Europe ... today we manufacture other stuff, porn, plastic, cancer, and phoney coronavirus.

There is no question we have fallen with the Church, as the light dies so does society.

It is all "too obvious".

 

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On 11/26/2020 at 10:02 PM, rideforever said:

Or through effort and struggle and dedication you become on of the few that breaks away by binding himself to the Truth.

Truth does not float for free ... if it did every sheeple would have it.

But it does not work like that.

Can you become wise without effort?  Can you do anything without effort?

 

To requote from the other day, "It is truth that liberates, not your effort to be free".

 

The Dao De Jing also being the art of effortless living.

 

That no effort be made to be free is fundamental to it's appearance in one's life.

 

On the one hand, struggle and suffering can create the other but it's not an opposite. Love has no opposite. Is it not a case of seeing our conflict as opposed to extricating ourselves from it? To say there must be effort through struggle could be dangerous. It might glorify the effort as noble and it might continue ad nauseum. Suffering in itself does not end suffering but promotes endless misery. To understand it must come from a place of no effort. A happy means is a happy end. Once you accept the notion of time in the sense of becoming: I am not free but I will be if I try and eventually make it, you're preventing it. Freedom is not of the psychological time with which we are caught in.

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1 minute ago, Traveller said:

The Dao De Jing also being the art of effortless living.

 

No it does not say that.

It says "hold fast to the centre".

It says that men are like "straw dogs" ... i.e. they are burnt into nothing by ilfe like useless festival lanterns.

Whereas the sage is eternal as he has unified himself with the Tao.

He says of the Tao "use it" ... this is a direct instruction.

 

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@rideforever

 

I didn't say it says that. That's a generally accepted term of what it represents, in one way, at least.

 

I believe the sage allows the Dao to flow through him as opposed to using it. Surely, you're not suggesting a Sage lives with effort?

 

Back to the notion of effort to be free for the lowly like you and I. Perhaps when struggle has been set aside the other is? Understanding and insight are surely effortless and how can you be free without them?

 

No amount of effort can supplant understanding.

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Well ... lot's of people think that Taoism is effortless and so on.  But they do not read carefully.

In the Tao Te Ching Laozi separates the human population into two parts ... the straw dogs burnt up meaninglessly ... and the sages who have unified with the Tao.

What the hell is a straw dog anyway !!???

 

"... we make straw dogs to use in sacrifices. We dress them up and put them on the altar, but not because we love them. And when the ceremony is over, we throw them into the street, but not because we hate them"

 

TTC, #5:
Heaven and Earth are impartial;
They see the ten thousand things as straw dogs.
The wise are impartial;
They see the people as straw dogs.

 

 

This means that human beings are like ornaments that existence creates, after a time it slaughters them.  Existence is impartial, it is just how things are.

In the same way as Heaven and Earth look at the elements of the universe, the sage looks down up people.

 

#20

 

Everyone else is busy,
But I alone am aimless and depressed.
I am different.
I am nourished by the great mother.

 

#6

 

The valley spirit never dies;
It is the woman, primal mother.
Her gateway is the root of heaven and Earth.
It is like a veil barely seen.
Use it; it will never fail.

 

#56

 

Be at one with the dust of the Earth.
This is primal union.

 

#42

 

The ten thousand things carry yin and embrace yang.
They achieve harmony by combining these forces.

 

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5 minutes ago, rideforever said:

the sage looks down up people.

 

Really? Not very impartial.

 

We discussed this before and you're using what I quoted.

 

Heaven's love is impersonal and therefore able to love the "wicked" also.

 

Much of what you say is misinterpretation as I see it.

 

9 minutes ago, rideforever said:

we make straw dogs to use in sacrifices. We dress them up and put them on the altar, but not because we love them. And when the ceremony is over, we throw them into the street, but not because we hate them

 

This what the Chinese did as a ceremony in days past. It's not the Tao Te Ching. All ceremonies and rituals are aberations of any religious teaching.

 

Heaven does not give birth out of kindness all kill out of cruelty. It's humans who kill out of cruelty and throw people in the street. It's saying that divine love is impersonal so can therefore care for all beings, "good" or "bad". It's humans who are partial or personal with their love and, of course, this means it's not actually love.

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1 hour ago, Traveller said:

To requote from the other day, "It is truth that liberates, not your effort to be free".

the liberating truth is the conscious knowing of our material state, one i refer to as dark mode plasma, specifically a charged body that moves with consciousness

 

the effort to be free is the trauma most suffer, it passes generationally from long ago, from the time when man lived without worry, and then all was worry

 

but freedom is just the ability to do the wrong thing, doing what is right is constrained to right action

 

with freedom, in any moment there is a right action and infinite wrong choices

 

the secret is not having to decide how to act

 

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1 hour ago, killing raven sun said:

but freedom is just the ability to do the wrong thing, doing what is right is constrained to right action

 

with freedom, in any moment there is a right action and infinite wrong choices

 

the secret is not having to decide how to act

 

I suppose it then matters in what way each of us are using the term freedom. I would use it to mean freedom from the self/time where right action (which I agree there's a difference) is all that can be done. But I take the point that it can also mean the freedom for either right action or wrong choices, as one is free to choose which. That could also be said to be right action or bondage but maybe I'm being pedantic.

 

Yes, not having to decide how to act. Decision being caught in the psychological time process and therefore not action. I've heard it put another way, the free man does not choose (decide). Freedom of choice, and it's contradictory nature between right/wrong good/bad, then belonging to those caught in bondage. Like me, of course.

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4 hours ago, killing raven sun said:

btw, this graphic is wrong

 

re-ligare means to join together, to rejoin the all, to disabuse your self of its separation from the universe, to become whole again

To join together means to bind

That's what bind means. 

The thing that binds them is their delusion. 

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Below is  yin-yang symbolism 

If you rotate the symbol 90 and bisect it you will get a represtaion of a sine wave. 

This is everybody's condition a hypocrite. 

A hypocrite is something that opposes itself. An oxymoron 

Something that opposes itself is self consuming cannibalistic. 

Yin Yang.png

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3 hours ago, rideforever said:

Out of much debris and material in the sky only a few become suns.

 

I can't find this in a search of The Emerald Tablets of Thoth with "oak"? Also, the acretion model of suns or planets is flawed.

 

8 minutes ago, DougASmall said:

To join together means to bind

That's what bind means. 

The thing that binds them is their delusion. 

 

I think bind or bound tends to mean held together without choice. The notion of joining would seem to imply a conscious awareness to be a part of something.

I'm a hypocrite. It's good to know what you are. There's a kind of freedom in knowing one's idiocy. I know I'm ill and, as such, I can potentially heal.

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1 minute ago, Traveller said:

 

I can't find this in a search of The Emerald Tablets of Thoth with "oak"? Also, the acretion models of suns or planets is flawed.

 

 

I think bind or bound tends to mean held together without choice. The notion of joining would seem to imply a conscious awareness to be a part of something.

I'm a hypocrite. It's good to know what you are. There's a kind of freedom in knowing one's idiocy.

Man is a hypocrite two diametrically opposed races

H120 Adawm 

Hebrew: אדם

Transliteration: 'âdâm

Pronunciation: aw-dawm'

Definition: From H119; {ruddy} that {is} a human being (an individual or the {species} {mankind } etc.): - X {another} + {hypocrite} + common {sort} X {low} man ({mean} of low {degree}) person.

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I believe there are truths in all religions, that they have become corrupted but the essence of all religion is correct. To escape the pain of the world Buddha seeks Nirvana and this can bring us internal peace. By quietening the mind can you find wisdom. All these paths lead to God, but Jesus is the quickest. Quite simply he saidwhoever comes to me, I will never cast out so Jesus offers salvation for everyone who God sends to him. I believe all religions and knowledge converge and each path meets on our journey.

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16 minutes ago, Traveller said:

I'm a hypocrite. It's good to know what you are. There's a kind of freedom in knowing one's idiocy.

You can change that. That's part of your free will to get reconciled to be rectified. 

The truth is what rectifies. 

To make both up no down 

Both on 

Not on and off. 

Truth and peace are the same thing. 

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