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So I went down a rabbit hole and I wanted to get opinions.

 

Heard vaguely somewhere about Saturn worship and decided to look it up, found an interesting wordpress doc i'd like to share.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/zeteticzen.wordpress.com/2016/12/10/saturn-worship-the-black-cube-of-cronus/amp/

 

You might not know it, but the entire world has been worshiping Saturn for thousands of years. The cult has never stopped and its rites are still present to this day. Saturn, dubbed the “Lord of the Rings”, is the reason why we exchange rings at weddings or put halos on the heads of godly people. This article exposes the attributes of the god Saturn and the perpetuation of his cult through in pop culture.

 

Since ancient times, sages gazed at the stars, admiring their heavenly glow and attributing them godly powers, based on their effect on humans. Before the Great Flood, Saturn was regarded by all mankind as the supreme god and ruler of
the kings. Occult researchers affirm that Saturn ruled the kingdom of Atlantis and became the divine ancestor of all earthly patriarchs and kings. The cult has
been perpetuated through numerous gods during Antiquity:

 

“Chronos, or Saturn, Dionysos, Hyperion, Atlas, Hercules, were all
connected with ‘a great Saturnian continent;’ they were kings that ruled over
countries on the western shores of the Mediterranean, Africa and Spain. ”
 Baldwin, Prehistoric Nations
In Egyptian mythology Isis is considered Saturn’s eldest daughter:
 

“I am Isis, Queen of this country. I was instructed by Mercury. No one
can destroy the laws which I have established. I am the eldest daughter of
Saturn, most ancient of the Gods”

 

Saturn has also been associated with Satan and this, for numerous

reasons.
 

First, many authors argue that the word Satan is derived from the word Saturn. Second, Saturn is associated with the color black as well as Satan. Third, Ancients considered Saturn to be the farthest planet from the sun , the latter being associated with the principle of Good. (Note that Pluto never was considered a planet). Saturn is consequently the celestial body that is the less
exposed to the sun’s divine light and thus associated with the coldness of the principle of Evil. Finally, the “great god Pan”, the horned deity, represented
Saturn in ancient paganism. This half-man half-goat creature is considered the ancestor of our modern depictions of Satan.

“Pan was a composite creature, the upper part–with the exception of
his horns–being human, and the lower part in the form of a goat. The pipes of 
Pan signify the natural harmony of the spheres, and the god himself is a symbol of Saturn because this planet is enthroned in Capricorn, whose emblem is a goat”
– Manly P. Hall, Secret Teachings of

All Ages

 

So Pan was depicted with horns due to the fact it represented Saturn, the ruler of the house of Capricorn which symbol is a goat.
Pan was the controlling spirit of the lower worlds. He was portrayed roaming through the forests, penis erect, drunk and lascivious, frolicking with nymphs and piping his way through the wild. We might say he ruled the lower nature of
man, its animal side, not unlike Satan.

 

Despite acknowledging its association with Evil, secret societies find the veneration of Saturn necessary to obtain illumination. It is the necessary
counterpart of the principle of Good. Masonic authors clearly associate Saturn with Satan:

 

“Saturn is the opposite to Jupiter; his symbol is the cross above the
sign of Luna. He is the Satan, the Tempter, or rather the Tester. His function is to chastise and tame the unruly passions in the primitive man.”

– J.S. Ward, Freemasonry and the Ancient Gods 

 

Probably the most extreme example of a secret society worshipping Saturn’s Evil principle is the “Fraternitas Saturni”. This occult organization is based in Germany and openly embodies the hidden side of Saturn worship.

 

“The Fraternitas Saturni (FS), the Brotherhood of Saturn, has become known to English readers through fragmentary descriptions which emphasize the sensational, sex-magical aspects of this lodge’s work or else its darker, more Satanic, side.This is understandable in light of the fact that the FS is (or was) the most unabashedly Luciferian organization in the modern Western occult revival, and its practice of sexual occultism perhaps the most elaborately detailed of any such lodge. The FS represents a unique blend of astrological cosmology, neo-Gnostic daemonology, sexual occultism, and Freemasonic organizational principles. This grand synthesis was originally the vision of one man, the long-time Grand Master of the FS, Gregor A. Gregorius.”

 

 

 

Recommend you read the whole thing. The writer has put up plenty of pictures and references to black cubes throughout the world like the UN and as a monument in major cities, also it's use in Judaism too.

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If I were to bring in the Electric Universe take on Saturn...it was seen as our former Sun and indeed, along way from our present Sun but existing as a brown dwarf. It was known as a superior Sun and the "Best Sun". Conventional cosmology even suggests that Brown Dwarfs would be very beneficial to life on the globes, that are orbiting them with Earth being one of them. This has extensive evidence in mythology.

 

Black is not necessarikly associated with evil unless mankind has degenerated and would then percieve it as such. Saturn, as a Brown Dwarf, would simply not need our present Sun to be able to provide a far more pleasant and stable environment that our present Sun does. David has spoken about being in a realm that was completely black. The Dao would call "darkness within darkness- the way to all truth". After the Golden age on Earth ended, it became separated from Saturn, the brown dwarf, which discharged to become a gas giant. With the end of the Golden Age man was thrown to the winds, separated by creed and language, losing the one language of telepathy. All this, in my opinion, because one global consciousness had "ascended" and another was to be created. And we're in the birth pangs of it now.

 

Anything mankind does following the loss of physical intelligence (they lived hundreds of years of course) will be an aberation. When the Dao is lost, goodness appears, when goodness is lost, morality steps forth, when morality is lost, ritual takes it's place and is the lowest we can go. Any cult of Saturn, or anything, may just be an aberation and perhaps collective longing for how things were. Saturnalia was the time of overindulgence at the time of Christmas I think. None of this has anything to do with Saturn, which is obviously perfect within itself but man's use or misuse of what he thinks it stands for, brought about by the degeneration of mankind of which we're all aparty to. The use of the black cube maybe a longing for a previous time of plenty or might, as suggested, be a willimng aberation of it's original meaning, if it had one. I'm not suggesting any of the above is wrong, to be clear, just other angles.

 

Sex as practised by the general population would be considered as black tantra, albeit unknowingly. White tantra being seen as the gate to Eden (no orgasm). Could be said we all engage in sex magic. The loss of sexual energy through sex is what makes people base as the lower centres becoming depleted, are then fixated on. War, survival, money are all attributes of lower nature when there is insufficient energy here. Pan is a nature spirit of the Earthly realms, nature and animals, and as such, has an eerie nature as a matter of course not because it's bad in anyway. Anything beastial is generally considered evil by man, unfortunately. Not that's what's being suggeasted, either. Rattled on enough, I think.

 

Rituals and black magic are performed by the masses daily whilst in our slumber. Gossip as cursing for instance.

 

I've heard it said that we're only affected by Astrology whilst we're not at one with ourselves and those around us, enlightened if you like. So Saturn being a tempter may only be relevant due to our own loss of oneness, or the stepping forth of the self and self interest, in natural opposition of others. The self then being the tempter

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If I were to bring in the Electric Universe take on Saturn...it was seen as our former Sun and indeed, along way from our present Sun but existing as a brown dwarf. It was known as a superior Sun and the "Best Sun". Conventional cosmology even suggests that Brown Dwarfs would be very beneficial to life on the globes, that are orbiting them with Earth being one of them. This has extensive evidence in mythology.

 

Black is not necessarikly associated with evil unless mankind has degenerated and would then percieve it as such. Saturn, as a Brown Dwarf, would simply not need our present Sun to be able to provide a far more pleasant and stable environment that our present Sun does. David has spoken about being in a realm that was completely black. The Dao would call "darkness within darkness- the way to all truth". After the Golden age on Earth ended, it became separated from Saturn, the brown dwarf, which discharged to become a gas giant. With the end of the Golden Age man was thrown to the winds, separated by creed and language, losing the one language of telepathy. All this, in my opinion, because one global consciousness had "ascended" and another was to be created. And we're in the birth pangs of it now.

 

Anything mankind does following the loss of physical intelligence (they lived hundreds of years of course) will be an aberation. When the Dao is lost, goodness appears, when goodness is lost, morality steps forth, when morality is lost, ritual takes it's place and is the lowest we can go. Any cult of Saturn, or anything, may just be an aberation and perhaps collective longing for how things were. Saturnalia was the time of overindulgence at the time of Christmas I think. None of this has anything to do with Saturn, which is obviously perfect within itself but man's use or misuse of what he thinks it stands for, brought about by the degeneration of mankind of which we're all aparty to. The use of the black cube maybe a longing for a previous time of plenty or might, as suggested, be a willimng aberation of it's original meaning, if it had one. I'm not suggesting any of the above is wrong, to be clear, just other angles.

 

Sex as practised by the general population would be considered as black tantra, albeit unknowingly. White tantra being seen as the gate to Eden (no orgasm). Could be said we all engage in sex magic. The loss of sexual energy through sex is what makes people base as the lower centres becoming depleted, are then fixated on. War, survival, money are all attributes of lower nature when there is insufficient energy here. Pan is a nature spirit of the Earthly realms, nature and animals, and as such, has an eerie nature as a matter of course not because it's bad in anyway. Anything beastial is generally considered evil by man, unfortunately. Not that's what's being suggeasted, either. Rattled on enough, I think.

 

Rituals and black magic are performed by the masses daily whilst in our slumber. Gossip as cursing for instance.

 

I've heard it said that we're only affected by Astrology whilst we're not at one with ourselves and those around us, enlightened if you like. So Saturn being a tempter may only be relevant due to our own loss of oneness, or the stepping forth of the self and self interest, in natural opposition of others. The self then being the tempter

I'm really not sure about the Saturn subject but I feel like there is a connection to satan. I mean, just the name alone doesn't sound coincidental.

 

That is a trippy concept you mentioned, people unwittingly practice ritual magic without any knowledge of what they're actually doing...

 

Unrelated but if since we're on the subject of satan or saturn, here's a look at a Rothschild property with extremely disturbing murals all over the place.

 

 

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Found this on reddit surprisingly, something on reddit I actually find interesting for once.

 

The Saturn Time Cube

 

I know this is all I talk about, but every time I make a post about this subject, people ask for more information on it. I think it’s been almost two years since I wrote the first thread on this, so an updated version of this work is probably long overdue. However, the main point of this thread is to give some background information for an even crazier conspiracy which I will link at the end.

 

Anyways, this is the Saturn Time Cube.

All over the world, across different cultures and religions, and throughout different films, literature, and other media, there is a consistent theme present that I am somewhat obsessed with. The theme I am referring to here is the black cube.

 

The black cube is a part of Jewish, Muslim, and Masonic tradition. It can be seen in places like the UN meditation room, Mecca, the 9/11 memorial, and art installations everywhere. It’s been a central plot device in films like Cube, 2001: Space Odyssey, Transformers, Hellraiser, The Avengers, and many more. The list is nearly endless.

 

https://www.un.org/depts/dhl/dag/meditationroom.htm

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_September_11_Memorial_%26_Museum

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tefillin

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaaba

 

https://www.myfreemasonry.com/threads/the-black-cube.12311/

 

In the movies I listed above, the cube is treated as a hyperdimensional object, or tesseract, which is capable of bending space and time. In addition, it is also sometimes portrayed as a sort of prison people are trapped in. I believe the cube represents physical reality. I will get to

this in a bit.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesseract

 

“To earth, then, let us assign the cubic form, for earth is the most immovable of the four and the most plastic of all bodies, and that which has the most stable bases must of necessity be of such a nature.” — Plato

 

Plato and the ancient Gnostics believed this world was a counterfeit created by an ignorant and flawed god known as the Demiurge. They believed the Demiurge trapped our spirits in this false reality and it was up to us to free ourselves from it using gnosis, or secret knowledge. If we didn’t succeed in doing so, we would be forced to reincarnate and start again from scratch. Ancient Buddhists and Hindus believed something along the same lines, but instead they called the material world Maya, or illusion, and the cycle of reincarnation, samsara.

 

There is now a newer theory out there that echos these same sentiments very closely: simulation theory. Scientists and philosophers alike are claiming we might be living in a giant computer or virtual reality. Movies like The Matrix, The Thirteenth Floor, and eXistenZ illustrate this idea quite well. Although it has been around for some time, the theory seems to be gaining a lot more traction lately, and has become somewhat of a meme.

Like I said before, I believe the cube represents this simulation, and I believe this simulation or false reality is taking place in a giant quantum computer. Ironically, D Wave’s quantum computers are shaped like giant black cubes. These machines are claimed to be capable of reaching into parallel universes to pull out information and find solutions to problems faster than regular computers. Currently, only a few have access to this technology, namely those at Google, CERN, and NASA.

 

“Quantum computation... will be the first technology that allows useful tasks to be performed in collaboration between parallel universes.” — David Deutsch

 

https://www.dwavesys.com/our-company/meet-d-wave

 

CERN is home to the world’s largest particle collider and also birthplace of the internet. Many conspiracy theorists claim CERN is trying to open a portal to another dimension, however, this isn’t too far fetched to believe as the scientists who work there have even said this themselves.

 

“Out of this door might come something, or we might send something through it.” —Sergio Bertolucci, Director for Research and Scientific Computing at CERN

 

In front of the CERN facility is a statue of Shiva the Destroyer dancing her dance of destruction inside a stargate. I don’t think this symbolism needs any farther explanation. Shiva, however, has connections to Jehovah, the god of the Old Testament, as well as Saturn. I believe these three deities are one and the same, and that they are different names for the gnostic Demiurge. The cube not only represents the false reality, but is also an altar to this god of limitation.

 

Here I should probably note that Geordie Rose, the founder of D Wave, compared his quantum computers to an altar to an ‘alien god’. I should probably also note that the black cube in the UN meditation room is supposed to be an altar to ‘the god of all’.

 

But why a black cube? Well, in 1981 during the Voyager mission, NASA discovered a massive hexagonal storm on the North Pole of Saturn. If you draw some lines on the inside of a hexagon, it becomes a two dimensional view of a three dimensional cube.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn%27s_hexagon

https://apokalypsis.gr/images/synomosiologika/theories/saturn-ejagwno-kyvos-polou.jpg

 

In times of antiquity Saturn was known as Kronos, the god of time. The story goes, Kronos was told a prophecy that one day one of his children would usurp him as king. After hearing this, he decided the only rational thing to do was eat all of his children. The myth illustrates the cycle of death and rebirth, creation and destruction. For this reason, Saturn and its rings are associated with the ouroboros, the serpent biting its own tail.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cronus

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouroboros

 

Saturn’s relation to the serpent makes me think of Satan. Saturn is the 6th planet from the sun, it has a 6 sided shape on its north pole, and the 6th day of the week is Saturn-day, the sabbath. Perhaps Kronos’ baby eating habits inspired Satanic child sacrifice?

 

The serpent also looks similar to the sine wave. Funny how the sine button on a calculator says ’sin’. The Bible says we die because we are born into sin. But could it really be because we are born into sine, the cycle of time? Here I should also note that a low frequency sine tone creates a hexagon in a medium such as sand or water. This has been confirmed by the study of cymatics. What is inside Saturn creating this frequency? Is this frequency affecting our brain’s ability to decode sensory data? Some people believe our DNA was tampered with long ago for this very reason, hence why we have a reptilian brain.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-i61TH3orPyM/VC3l7EH3p4I/AAAAAAAAApg/SGB2Mzj58jw/s1600/Secret_Of_Yin_Yang_Symbol_010-SnakeSineWave-300x270.jpg

 

https://stuart-mitchell.com/images/johnreid_saturn.jpg

https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/cassini/multimedia/pia07966.html

 

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/07/140724141608.htm

 

Saturn’s associations with time and the cube are uncanny. The tesseract I mentioned earlier, which is portrayed in many movies, is a four dimensional cube, the fourth dimension being time. The movies that mention the tesseract, usually have many references to Saturn. A good example of this would be Interstellar. I can’t possibly name all the movies that hint at these ideas, because like I said before, there are just so many. But if you do a little bit of research, you will find them everywhere.

 

But how did the ancients know Saturn had a hexagon on top of it? How could they possibly make all of these associations without telescopes and satellites? Some theorists believe in the very distant past the planets were arranged much differently. This would have been back in the Golden Age, when shit was good and Saturn wasn’t pissed off from hearing that prophecy yet.

 

Supposedly this was when Atlantis thrived and Saturn hung stationary in the sky directly overhead. This theory comes from the people over at the Thunderbolts Project, who have also proposed many other radical new ideas such as the universe being electric and Saturn being a second sun. The theory that we live in a binary star system has correlations with the Nazi’s belief in a Black Sun.

https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/

 

Some of the things I mention are very dense subjects that would take entire threads to explain in themselves. I will provide the material for those who wish to dig deeper on their own, but for the sake of time, I will have to refrain from explaining every single thing in detail. I just like to mention them to show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.

 

Anyways, according to the electric universe theory, the Tower of Babel story is actually an allegory for one of the celestial configurations experienced in the past. Tower of Babel also means Gate of God and I believe a rotating hexagon in the sky would have been seen as some sort of portal into the heavenly realms. Perhaps we, the sons of Kronos, at one point somehow attempted to make it into that portal, to become god and usurp the throne. This is exactly what the story the Epic of Gilgamesh is about.

 

Perhaps we are trying to do this again. Scientists at CERN have also called the particle accelerator the Tower of Babel and even its translation, the Gate of God! You can’t make this stuff up! Is this the only way out of the cube? Personally I don’t think so. I believe the way out can be found within, through enlightenment. However, these people are trying to become god, and either they will or they are going to piss him off again. Maybe this is how the matrix resets and the time loop begins again.

 

But let’s get to the point of all this. Like I said earlier, the people at CERN also created the internet, which ironically uses www in every web address. I say this is ironic because www in Hebrew is 666. I believe the internet is another dimension, one that is able to interface with the mind of the Demiurge. It quite literally is another ‘space’, one where people across the world can talk to each other as if they were right next to each other. This is even more obvious in VR video games. An entire world with other real people in it exists right in your room. But there are other beings in your room as well, ones made of code, devoid of true consciousness. The internet, this demonic dimension, will be the birthplace of a rogue Artificial Intelligence.

 

What will happen when literally everything is done online and literally everything is linked up to the cube? What will happen when quantum computing and CERN start retrocausally changing our reality? The Mandela Effect is proof this is already happening, however, things will start changing on a bigger scale as we get closer to the singularity and I believe Chainlink will play a major role in this.

 

 

 

Notice the 6's. 6 million in the holocaust, 6 sided star with 6 triangles, points and hexagonal sides in the centre.

 

The 6 is a key instrument in jewish kabbalah and gematria. It is essentially their favourite number hence why they pushed the 6 million dead figure way before Hitler was even in the picture. Jews obsess over this shit as well as the numerous secret societies who practice kabbalah and black magic.

 

https://www.bitchute.com/video/qxGjLAMjqMLo/

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A thought I had concerning satanic ritual abuse and child sacrifice was that those who don't realize (or don't want to realize) they're trapped in a time space prison will become identified with mind and ego/personality.  This is the reason why we have so many reincarnated politicians and business leaders.  These people are stuck in the same egoic mind patterns/habitual thinking, and the longer they're trapped in it, the harder it is to break free.  Think of the "Land of Diminishing Returns" here.  Mankind as a whole is burdened with these souls that after death, cannot resist the temptation to incarnate again to serve the Dark Forces of Ahriman (Satanic Forces).  I've read from many astrologers and psychics that the politicians in DC are simply reincarnations of the old Roman Republic, Jimmy Carter is one for certain.  I also suspect that what/who we call the %1 controlling things utilize black power rituals to bring these souls back (I'm not familiar with how this works)  I'm certain this is the case.  There is a woman who calls herself Sybelle who stated she was born into an Illuminati family which had close ties with the Vatican.   She detailed an experience she had when her Uncle brought her to the Vatican, where they joined a group in a basement sacrificial room.  She said there was a stone table in the center with what appeared to be catacomb-like openings spaced around the perimeter of this room.  She said the entire time they were performing this ritual, she was terrified beyond belief.  The men there took coffins out of each opening, apparently the soul is tied to the corpse, as they believe.  The ritual was meant to allow the spiritual energy/life essence of the sacrificed child to emanate into these spirits centered in these coffins.  It was an absolutely hellish routine.  I can only think that the beings who perform these rituals are not human, I don't believe humans are capable of this level of evil.  It does not seem physically possible.  The same type of ritual was performed in Goehring's Castle Carinhall to supposedly bring the ancient priest-king line of Germany closer to our realm (3d world) to power-up the Nazi war machine.  The nazis were primarily the men who resurfaced and refined the art of Black Magic power rituals.  Everything the US Government does basically springs from this revival of the Black Arts.  You can see it plainly in the youth of today who scarcely can fathom anything beyond their glass screens, all spirituality gone, the psychic abilities mankind possessed in the past all but disappeared.  Everything in our society is based on technology that actually embodies the same physics and conceptual frame as these black rituals.  Machine intelligence is merely the numerical essence of the 3d continuum brought into physicality.  Nothing "magical" about it, but appears so.  I suspect that the secret society that Hitler supposedly belonged to, the Thule Society, was an adjunct to the Negative ET's masquerading as humans.  I can't but wonder if many of the high-ranking Nazis weren't demonic manifestations - they were certainly absolutely possessed by evil entities if they were human.  I believe the most valuable information I found on this subject was on a site named "Bibliotecapleyades", I don't Google has discovered it yet to think to delete or ban it.  

 

BTW - I've heard of this Sacrificial Room in the basement of the Vatican several times from different sources.  I've not seen it, though I'm certain it exists.  The Vatican is at the heart of the Black Magic web that encompasses humanity.  This may possibly exist to balance out the Good, benevolent forces.  There is always this balance, as our reality is one of Duality:  Up/Down, Left/Right, Black/White, etc  I also read from Carlos Castenada that as Christ was crucified, simultaneously, a black magician was being crucified in South America.  He was the only source I've heard this from.  Interesting stuff you never hear in Church.

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On 11/26/2020 at 5:30 AM, FVCK BILLY G4TES said:

I'm really not sure about the Saturn subject but I feel like there is a connection to satan. I mean, just the name alone doesn't sound coincidental.

 

That is a trippy concept you mentioned, people unwittingly practice ritual magic without any knowledge of what they're actually doing...

 

Unrelated but if since we're on the subject of satan or saturn, here's a look at a Rothschild property with extremely disturbing murals all over the place.

 

 

Wes Penre goes into an explanation of the origin of the Demiurge or Yaldabaoth.  The Wes Penre Papers are a very good source, concise and complete regarding this potentially complex subject.  The Demiurge was mistakenly created by the Sophia (feminine power), who attempted to hide it from the Father Creator.  This Demiurge is believed to be the creator involved with our reality.  David Icke has also partially explained much of the dimensional distortion that creates the environment of unnatural fear and disharmony that encompasses our globe.  A frequency is being beamed/emanated from the planet Saturn, utilizing Mars and our Moon as relay stations.  This is what is creating a vibrational disharmony/distortion that has been the source of all our difficulties in evolving.  When mankind was close to breaking through to a larger reality, this demiurge through beings called the Archons, created obstacles to roadblock our path of ascension.  Some researchers believe that Stonehenge was an ancient stargate, a key-map to different planets and dimensions.  Something occurred to stop the access to this star-knowledge, I'm suspecting due to it's potential misuse.   The American Indians, Peruvians, Aztec peoples, Africans, Oriental races all have legends of this star-knowledge, where mankind was in touch with higher intelligences and civilizations.  Also, something few are aware of: the founding of Philadelphia was related to the use by Benjamin Franklin of this occult star-knowledge.  He and his French co-hort (can't remember his name, sorry) tricked an Lenni-Lenape Indian chief into signing an agreement basically granted the land around "Penn Hill".  This was not the first usurpation of the Indian's land of course.  Philadelphia's founding by Franklin was timed during a specific astrological alignment which centered around the constellation of Scorpio and it's corresponding energies.  "America" hence was "born" on 7-4-1776 at 2:13 am, under the 7.5 degree Gemini rising.  In occult parlance, this was a resurrection of ancient Rome.  Hence, the fascist staffs in the House of Representatives (Chamber). (I have to say I hate talking about the US gov't!!!)  Anyway, this info's from Ras Ben's presentation on Franklin and the Gates of Hell:  https://youtu.be/d4QonuNC5u0      

 

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