Even alternative media agree stats do not add up--but that somehow, "covid" is real.

[epsom]

Anyone noticed that even in the "alternative" media, there are a great number of those who agree that the stats do not add up with deaths, cases etc etc..... but still say that many have "covid"?.

It's been said so many times that I will just say that it has NEVER been proven to exist ( as the UK Gov have stated in a FOIA reply--they cannot produce the evidence asked for), never been isolated and purified, there is no Gold Standard for it to be compared to etc etc......so WHERE are these people getting their information that covid (Sars2cov) exists?.

[chud]

I'd not say a great number but quite all of them, I never read any claiming the opposite... you can't run a media outlet and make a living by saying there's no pandemic, because it's all a business anyway, and if we got to wear masks to keep the business going then we'll do... who could say there's a 'pandemic' if we didn't wear masks ?

[chud]

There's a simple and 'easy' solution for society and the outside world to at least recover a 'human face', which would be good enough for a start and before people lose their sanity…

That since even government representatives are compelled to wear COVID masks in public or during parliament sessions, they suggest and try to impose the end of that inexcusable privilege TV speakers, hosts as well as their guests and protagonists whether in TV news or shows are still allowed NOT to wear these masks when on air…

 

It's nothing more than demanding for the rule to be equally applied… If all TV news speakers and guests got forced to wear masks then it would take only a FEW HOURS for the mask obligation as a whole to get officially cancelled by decree, and you just have to watch a TV 'news' report by a masked journalist to get why…

 

I guess free citizens won't have to riot just to ask for a COVID restriction to be applied would they ?

 

[Terence]

Could some of you great minds please direct me to some more reading on the fact that there is no isolate of this shit? 

Many thanks 

[Michael]

8 hours ago, Terence said:

Could some of you great minds please direct me to some more reading on the fact that there is no isolate of this shit? 

Many thanks 

 

 

"To date, not a single team of scientists has isolated and purified the SARS-CoV-2 RNA virus. Some researchers claim to have done so. But when their findings are scrutinized, they fall short. Just as Randomized Controlled Trials are required to do accurate studies of the efficacy and safety of medical devices like face masks or products such as prescription drugs, so, too, is there a major benchmark that must be satisfied if one is to prove that he has indeed correctly identified and isolated a virus. That benchmark has been, since 1890, a set of principals known as the Koch postulates, named after famed German physician and bacteriologist Robert Koch. All researchers must apply his four postulates if they are to prove or disprove a cause-and-effect relationship between a pathogen and a particular clinical disease.

 

For example, in February 2020, Chinese and Dutch researchers published studies purporting to show that they had isolated the SARS-CoV-2 virus by satisfying all of the Koch postulates. Four months later, however, freelance writer Armory Devereux and molecular biologist and researcher Rosemary Frei revealed the truth about those studies in an Off-Guardian article. Their heavily investigated and well-documented piece confirms that the Chinese and Dutch researchers did not fulfill Koch’s third postulate, which involves replicating or cloning the DNA to form a new copy of the virus and then injecting that new copy into a significant number of living hosts (usually lab animals) with the intent to reproduce the same discrete diagnostic symptoms associated with the virus. In fact, Frei discovered, after reviewing numerous research papers from all over the world, that not a single group of scientists was able to replicate or clone the DNA to form a new copy of the virus. In short, they failed to meet Koch’s third postulate.

 

Another team of investigative journalists, Torsten Engelbrecht and Konstantin Demeter, wrote an equally comprehensive article on the same subject for Off-Guardian. They, too, concluded that there is not a single research paper out there demonstrating that the SARS-CoV-2 virus has been successfully isolated and finally purified. In addition, Engelbrecht and Demeter discovered that “there is no scientific proof that those RNA sequences are the causative agent of what is called COVID-19.”

 

In other words, by not successfully fulfilling all of Koch’s postulates, scientists have thus far not proven the existence of any new coronavirus. This is why molecular biologist Dr. Andrew Kaufman has suggested in numerous interviews—on The Highwire and The Last American Vagabond and elsewhere—that the current coronavirus is not a new disease. Dr. Kaufman submits, moreover, that the particles scientists say they are looking at through their electron microscopes are perhaps not the virus at all but are, rather, exosomes being produced by the body. These exosomes, containing the same genetic material as a virus, are naturally produced by the human body as a defense mechanism in response to an external attack by a toxin emanating from our polluted environment. This would be a possible explanation as to why the “pandemic” started in China’s Wuhan province. This area of China is one of the most polluted places on earth. In Wuhan, the ecosystem in all its glorious biodiversity has been utterly destroyed by man-made pollutants and the heavy use of glyphosate in industrial farming.

 

Besides pollution, there is yet another plausible explanation as to why this particular coronavirus (if it exists, which some reputable experts highly doubt) may have possibly started in Wuhan. The internationally funded Wuhan Institute of Virology, which has proven financial tiesto the US government and is known for its poor safety standards, was involved in dangerous gain-of-function research to make bat viruses more lethal to humans. Several disturbing studies conducted by the lab “successfully” combined animal and human virus traits in ways that made them more dangerous to humans. This description of the institute’s research raises many questions. At present, there is not enough evidence to prove whether a pathogen was either intentionally released by the lab or was accidentally leaked into the environment. And, even if a virus was intentionally released into the environment as a bioweapon, the developers of this weapon did not do a good job. As we will see in the last fiction versus fact (below), this coronavirus has had virtually the same global infection fatality rate as the average seasonal flu. If anything, the influenza virus of 2017 was far more lethal than this year’s coronavirus.

Finally, this brings us to the multi-billion-dollar question on the virus isolation issue: If scientists have not properly identified the virus or the RNA gene sequences associated with the virus, how on earth are the vaccine companies developing a mRNA vaccine against a novel coronavirus, and what exactly will be in this vaccine? Perhaps this is why the initial vaccine trials conducted by biotech company Moderna, the US vaccine front-runner, and AstraZeneca, which leads the British Oxford Vaccine Group, have been unsatisfactory."

 

Source: https://www.globalresearch.ca/what-truly-verifiable-facts-surrounding-covid-19/5721128

Edited November 26, 2020 by Michael

[scowie]

10 hours ago, Michael said:

Source: https://www.globalresearch.ca/what-truly-verifiable-facts-surrounding-covid-19/5721128

 

The problem I have with that article is that it is still promulgating the concept of the "virus".

 

I recommend this other globalresearch article: https://www.globalresearch.ca/dr-stefan-lanka-2020-article-busts-virus-misconception/5719146

[Michael]

4 hours ago, scowie said:

 

The problem I have with that article is that it is still promulgating the concept of the "virus".

 

I recommend this other globalresearch article: https://www.globalresearch.ca/dr-stefan-lanka-2020-article-busts-virus-misconception/5719146

 

Does it though?

I think the article is pretty open minded towards the possibility of a no-virus.

 

" Dr. Kaufman submits, moreover, that the particles scientists say they are looking at through their electron microscopes are perhaps not the virus at all but are, rather, exosomes being produced by the body. These exosomes, containing the same genetic material as a virus, are naturally produced by the human body as a defense mechanism in response to an external attack by a toxin emanating from our polluted environment."

[scowie]

2 hours ago, Michael said:

 

Does it though?

I think the article is pretty open minded towards the possibility of a no-virus.

 

" Dr. Kaufman submits, moreover, that the particles scientists say they are looking at through their electron microscopes are perhaps not the virus at all but are, rather, exosomes being produced by the body. These exosomes, containing the same genetic material as a virus, are naturally produced by the human body as a defense mechanism in response to an external attack by a toxin emanating from our polluted environment."

 

I take that to mean with regards to "coronavirus".  I meant more generally.  The final paragraph talks of pathogens and viruses being made more dangerous in a lab.  I would say that there is no evidence that any "virus" does any harm whatsoever to living organisms, as Stefan Lanka maintains.

 

The whole released-from-a-lab thing I consider to be deliberate misinformation, especially as mainstream media have openly discussed that.

[chud]

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During his undergraduate years at university, Dr Stefan Lanka came across a virus that had ‘infected’ a sea algae. The virus didn’t make the sea-algae sick. In fact the virus helped the sea algae to bloom and thrive, which was quite the opposite of what he had expected. He was really excited, because he had discovered what he thought was the first stable “virus-host” relationship. The virus did not threaten the host, but was welcomed by the sea algae and both co-existed harmoniously or endo-symbiotically.

In order to prove the existence of this virus, he isolated, biochemically characterized and photographed it.[…]

 

By 1994 he had achieved this and had obtained his doctorate.

 

The virus Dr Stefan Lanka discovered is called the Ectocarpus siliculosus virus. This virus is not pathogenic and enables the sea algae to thrive because of it, and not despite it. The diameter of this virus is approximately 120nm (nm - nano-meter - one billionth of a meter).

 

Dr Lanka was asked about pathogenic viruses such as HIV and did some research. He examined the scientific literature and discovered there was absolutely no evidence for the existence of any pathogenic virus deemed dangerous by the scientists and MDs; such as the mumps, measles, rubella and swine-flu  viruses, and against which our children are vaccinated.

 

Now if pathogenic viruses exist, it should be possible to isolate them and measure their respective diameters.

This question is directed to Professor Bill Hall Director of the NVRL (National Virus Reference Laboratory), who is the most eminent expert in Ireland on pathogenic viruses:-

Please tell me the diameter of all known pathogenic viruses and how you isolated and measured them. 

I urge the Minister of Health Dr James Reilly MD to request Professor Bill Hall PhD MD to answer this question.

 

https://www.change.org/p/pathogenic-viruses-do-not-exist

 

 

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The virus misconception is at the heart of Operation Coronavirus, because without the concept of germ theory and without the horror story of the killer virus, most people would not buy the NWO-directed official narrative of COVID propaganda. In a previous article on the nature of the virus, I have discussed the heroic efforts of German virologist Dr. Stefan Lanka, who won a landmark case in 2017 which went all the way to the German Supreme Court. Lanka proved in the highest court of the land that measles was not caused by a virus, and that there was in fact no such thing as a measles virus. Lanka is still busy working, and he wrote this article earlier this year (translated into English here) entitled ““The Misconception called Virus”” in which he explains the history of how mainstream science went horribly wrong with its conclusions (really assumptions) to demonize the humble virus and to falsely ascribe pathogenicity to it when there is none.

 

https://www.globalresearch.ca/dr-stefan-lanka-2020-article-busts-virus-misconception/5719146

 

 

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Critics of the judicial verdict argue that Dr. Lanka’s victory is solely based on how he had formulated the offer of reward, namely to pay the € 100,000 for the presentation of a single publication of evidence (which Dr. Bardens was unable to provide).

This argument, however, distracts the attention from the essential points.

According to the minutes of the court proceedings (page 7/ first paragraph), Andreas Podbielski, head of the Department of Medical Microbiology, Virology and Hygiene at the University Hospital in Rostock, who was one of the appointed experts at the trial, stated that even though the existence of the measles virus could be concluded from the summary of the six papers submitted by Dr. Bardens, none of the authors had conducted any controlled experiments in accordance with internationally defined rules and principles of good scientific practice (see also the method of “indirect evidence”).

Professor Podbielski considers this lack of control experiments explicitly as a “methodological weakness” of these publications, which are after all the relevant studies on the subject (there are no other publications trying to attempt to prove the existence of the “measles virus”).

Thus, at this point, a publication about the existence of the measles virus that stands the test of good science has yet to be delivered.

Furthermore, at the trial it was noted that contrary to its legal remit as per § 4 Infection Protection Act (IfSG) the Robert Koch Institute (RKI), the highest German authority in the field of infectious diseases, has failed to perform tests for the alleged measles virus and to publish these.

The RKI claims that it made internal studies on the measles virus, however, refuses to hand over or publish the results.

Dr. Lanka: “With the Supreme Court judgment in the measles virus trial any national and international statements on the alleged measles virus, the infectivity of measles, and on the benefit and safety of vaccination against measles, are since then of no scientific character and have thus been deprived of their legal basis.”

 

https://eraoflight.com/2020/06/22/virologist-dr-stefan-lanka-files-charge-against-german-government-virologist-for-corona-for-crimes-against-humanity/