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When Mandela fulfilled his lifetime ambition to liberate South Africa by becoming President some people were confused. They distinctly remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison. How is this possible. Did our time line converge with an alternate universe. Did God allow Mandela to change his past? How could it be that he died in prison and also led South Africa.

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I find the Mandela Effect fascinating. I watched some videos by a guy going by Harmony Mandela Effect on Youtube trying to explain the physics behind it - a lot of it went over my head but essentially modern physics considers 2 areas: Classical (large scale) and Quantum (small). And the holy grail is in trying to match up the 4 universal forces (gravity, strong nuclear, weak nuclear and electromagnetic). Supposedly they are close with String Theory allowing for 10 dimensional time-space. However, this guys suggests there is a third area of physics (Dark Physics) which lies between the Classical and Quantum and String Theory, when applied in this case, works for a 26 dimensional Universe.

 

This is the guy's channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBEqQz5WmXoVj0NGfXXhHtw/videos

 

Here's part one of his Throne of God series. It's pretty complicated stuff but worth a watch in my opinion:
 

 

 

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I reckon its caused by TV. They say theres people who cant tell the difference between TV and the real world and that sounds totally crazy but I will admit to being one of those people and thats why I dont watch it. What and idiot I must look to people who, just like me, also cannot tell the difference between TV and the real world and dont realise it.

 

Of course we all know that when Bob Cryer is on The Bill going, "right lads, Mrs Jones is being annoyed by some yobs, go and tell them yobs to clear off" that Bob Cryer is really just an actor and all the stuff going on on TV is just fiction but ...

 

When we see police doing do many good deeds on TV, we might not notice the reality of the real world where very few of them are ever doing good deeds like they are on the TV and most of them are just giving out fines for victimless crimes like speeding. When you haven't watched TV for a while, you really notice how far from reality the depictions of things on TV actually are. When you have been born in it and raised in it and you have never left it then all the unbalanced depictions sways your perception of the world so much that you think there are a lot more police doing good deeds than there really are.

 

Nelson Mandela is dead. It was on TV and the TV assures us that the TV would never lie but then Nelson Mandela is still alive and the TV assures us that the TV would never lie. You must be going mad if you thought you saw somethng on TV which suggests the TV lied about something. That could never happen. No big deal its just a news story, so you were mistaken about Nelson Mandela being dead, so whats going on about Nelson Mandela now? Nothing important. Whats on the other side? Oh that guy got out of jail. Seems so wrong that he was deprived of freedom for so long. Thats good. I wonder if theres a movie on TV tonight? Born Free? The A-Team? A group of vietnam veterans put in prison for a crime they didnt commit. Hmm that sounds interesting.

 

The whole works is engineered into seasons. Star Wars (rebellion against the empire) is hardly the type of film thats going to be playing in downtown Iraq at the height of the occupation. Thats wartime, but this stuff is all well engineered during peace time too. Its unthinkable that the TV could be lying to us but the amount of stuff I've seen thrown down memory holes in the time I've questioned everything on it, assures me I'm right to question everything believed by the people who watch it. We are a democracy and we are not surveillance state and we are unlike the eastern bloc countries which are not democracies but propaganda regimes which keep their civilian population under extreme levels of observation. We should be thankful to live in a free country. Along comes John Major. Could never happen here, but it happenned. Any mention of it on TV? They told the voter what the voter wanted long before the voter even got a say. If democracy is the ruler, then TV is the rulers owner. As for who owns the TV, its just a man with a marketing team and they are subject to errors in the narratives of lies they tell from season to season.

 

Thats all the Mandela Effect is in my view. Errors which occur because of cracks in the paint of the false picture they are always painting.

 

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A lot of examples of this 'Mandela effect' that are often quoted are probably just down to 'faulty memory' or just misremembering.

 

See here for some of the commonly used 'trivial' examples:

https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/life/entertainment/g28438966/mandela-effect-examples/

 

All of those are irrelevant to me.

 

As I see it, we experience our own reality from our own perspective, along our own timeline if you like. Other people may experience their own 'blips' but it wouldn't really affect our own perception of reality. And equally, if you experience your own 'blip', other people wouldn't know what you were talking about.

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37 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said:

A lot of examples of this 'Mandela effect' that are often quoted are probably just down to 'faulty memory' or just misremembering.

 

See here for some of the commonly used 'trivial' examples:

https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/life/entertainment/g28438966/mandela-effect-examples/

 

All of those are irrelevant to me.

 

As I see it, we experience our own reality from our own perspective, along our own timeline if you like. Other people may experience their own 'blips' but it wouldn't really affect our own perception of reality. And equally, if you experience your own 'blip', other people wouldn't know what you were talking about.

 

I believe its a lot more than that, that every decision you make creates a alternate reality. This is the matrix. When you die you get to go back through your life and change decisions and create a path to enlightenment. A way out of the maze. I think that there are different degrees of death and we experience these as alternative realities. Just once in a while these realities converge and this I believe is the Mandela Effect

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1 hour ago, Diesel said:

 

I believe its a lot more than that, that every decision you make creates a alternate reality. This is the matrix. When you die you get to go back through your life and change decisions and create a path to enlightenment. A way out of the maze. I think that there are different degrees of death and we experience these as alternative realities. Just once in a while these realities converge and this I believe is the Mandela Effect

 

I agree there's a lot more to this. Our own 'timeline' is merely what we are experiencing in the 'now', as David Icke himself would put it.

 

There could well be all manner of parallel universes and alternate realities, all created from our own individual decisions and actions. And they all very much 'coexist' alongside our own 'reality', though we don't perceive them as such.

 

There is no 'time', everything that has ever happened or ever will, is all around us. Sometimes one's perception of time encounters a 'glitch' and another reality could manifest itself, which is maybe why some people see ghosts and others don't for example.

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The Mandela effect is fascinating whether you believe in it or not; because it refers to an actual real phenomena, which is people remembering things entirely differently to how they happened. 

 

So on one level, it's a 'conspiracy' in which CERN caused ripples in the fabric of space time reality with their Hadron collider, and this causes some people to remember C3P0 as entirely gold, BUT

 

On another level it is like a combination of false memory and mass hallucination.

 

It's fascinating.

 

It was the very first conspiracy theory I became aware of. I can still remember spending like a whole weekend just watching video after video about it, absorbing all of the information. Such fond memories. I love it when I first become aware of a new theory and spend literally dozens of hours thinking deeply about it.

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i reckon some, can be attitutable to misremembering, i do remember NM dying in prison so, when he was released,i assumed i was mistaken. However the one that gets me the most is Shazam- a film which apparently does not exist

 

on the web many remember it- he drove a cab, helped with two kids and their dad and was a genie-released around 1994 time, and about 1995 in UK. Swear i saw it advertised on SkyMovies, when we first got cable and picked it up in the video shop and decided, it was not a film i wanted to see. I later recall seeing Kazam, in the same section, thinking it was another example of the hollywood copycat syndrome

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OK if you're familiar with this subject you'll know one of the famous ones is Snow White. I remember 'mirror-mirror on the wall' but it is apparently now 'magic mirror on the wall'. I'm going to ask my children what they remember.

 

But HOLY MOLEY what do I see when watching a semi-final of Only Connect on the BBC?

 

The last round is missing vowels where they give a general clue and then phrases with the vowels removed. Second to last clue...

 

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Becomes

 

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Missing repeated word KNOCK,

 

Then the LAST clue, just as the bell goes to end the quiz, giving no-one time to answer -

 

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Victoria Coren then finishes with - "No time to give me that last one, mirror on the wall".

 

Really? Did the BBC just provide us with what s termed a 'residual'?

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ME??? When I first heard of it I remembered a thread on the Fortean Times forum entitled "People you thought were dead", which I thought came before the ME was named - and it does. Could be the ME in action though :-)

 

Does anyone remember a film set in Paris that has the same basic plot as Arnie's "The Running Man". I think I saw this in the early 80's and it was made in the 70's. The book was published in 1982, so the film could be later than I remember.

 

Also, I remember seeing a poster for Jim Carrey's "The Grinch" in Euston Square underground station Sept/Oct 2000, at the northern exit. The Grinch was very nasty looking. The poster disappeared and in the later poster the Grinch was almost comical, the change was really noticeable. 

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The ME that I am one hundred percent convinced of is Dolly's Braces. As a young King Kitty, I watched the James Bond movie, "Moonraker" on television a few times. I very clearly recall the Dolly character having braces, as well as the scene where she and Jaws (Richard Kiel) meet. That scene was the climax to the running gag; she wore braces and felt self conscience about them, he (Jaws) had metal teeth. Now, she no longer wears braces in the movie. the actress who played Dolly claims she has no idea what people are talking about, because she didn't wear braces in the movie.

 

I'm not mistaken or having any false memories, she wore braces. There is even a credit card commercial, which came out a few years after the movie, which parodies the scene from the movie by having the woman at the counter wear braces. For some reason, that commercial still exist, yet Dolly's braces are gone. There seems to more videos trying to debunk this one that support it. I'm not sure which side of the fence this guy is on, but his video covers the various elements of the Dolly's Braces ME. 

As many are now waking up to, folks from Hollywoodland lie a lot. Her claims to having never worn braces in the movie ain't worth a hill of beans, in my book. 

 

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On 1/9/2022 at 10:13 PM, Nobby Noboddy said:

I remember 'mirror-mirror on the wall' but it is apparently now 'magic mirror on the wall'. I'm going to ask my children what they remember.

 

The last round is missing vowels where they give a general clue and then phrases with the vowels removed. Second to last clue...

 

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Missing repeated word KNOCK,

 

Victoria Coren then finishes with - "No time to give me that last one, mirror on the wall".

 

Really? Did the BBC just provide us with what s termed a 'residual'?

I also distinctly remember both of these having the repeat word in it.

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On 12/2/2020 at 10:28 PM, Ethel said:

The Mandela effect is fascinating whether you believe in it or not; because it refers to an actual real phenomena, which is people remembering things entirely differently to how they happened. 

 

Or they don't actually make lasting memories of these things and are convinced by the rhetoric that they did.

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10 hours ago, Anti Facts Sir said:

2. It was Mirror Mirror.....magic mirror my arse.

 

The thing is, you aren't recalling the phrase from the film. You are recalling it from a chinese whisper of misquotes- children re-enacting it who didn't remember it verbatim. There's nothing unusual about it and reality hasn't been altered.

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4 hours ago, Lopixa said:

 

The thing is, you aren't recalling the phrase from the film. You are recalling it from a chinese whisper of misquotes- children re-enacting it who didn't remember it verbatim. There's nothing unusual about it and reality hasn't been altered.

 

Bullshit .... I remember Dolly, who HAD braces (the whole point of the scene) and it WAS Mirror Mirror!

 

Just because you do not recall and prefer whatever bull you are told to believe .... do not be mistaken about some of us actually remembering!

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4 hours ago, Anti Facts Sir said:

Anything else from my 1970s childhood you'd like to tell me didn't happen or didn't exist?

 

"Fudge the Mandela Effect."

 

50 years from now, history will say Darian said, "Fuck the Mandela Effect".

 

And some pedantic wankers 50 years from now will be arguing about it.

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3 hours ago, DarianF said:

 

"Fuck the Mandela Effect."

 

50 years from now, history will say Darian said, "Fudge the Mandela Effect".

 

And some pedantic wankers 30 years from now will be arguing about it.

 

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4 hours ago, ink said:

 

Bullshit .... I remember Dolly, who HAD braces (the whole point of the scene) and it WAS Mirror Mirror!

 

Just because you do not recall and prefer whatever bull you are told to believe .... do not be mistaken about some of us actually remembering!

I know. It can infuriate me, as well.

 

I've heard explanations from various experts as to why I have incorrectly remembered Dolly having braces. None of them come close to my reason for remembering her with braces. You see, as a kid around that time, just as with now, I had an interest in music and comedy. The main reason I recalled her having braces, as well as the scene where she and Jaws finally meet, is because of it being a "running gag". As a young King Kitty, I took a mental note of the running gag, which was really the only funny and entertaining thing I found in the movie. There was a running gag where Dolly felt insecure about her braces. She was supposed to be a "nerd". And when they met, his teeth went *bling* and then when she smiled, her teeth went *bling*...like that cheesy effect they used to use on The Monkees when Davey Jones met a pretty girl, only it was his and the various girl's eyes. without the braces, the scene really makes no sense, just beauty meets the beast, which fit no narrative at all in the movie. And, of course, there is the television commercial from a few years later. It was not in vogue at the time, to see an adult with braces.

 

The ME market has been glutted with a lot of phooey. That in it's self is telling, to me. To me that shows that someone wants to muddy the waters.

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