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1.  Did you know that Dr. Immanuel Velikovsky  was one the most ridiculed scientists by the main stream scientist, he asked Einstein for help, but Einstein refused him, until later when Einstein changed his mind and offered to help Velikovsky thirteen days later Einstein was found dead clutching a book written by Immanuel Velliksky.

Who was  Dr. Immanuel Velikovsky



2. Did you know that the Nazis believed the sun was made of Ice, they based this theory on a scientist called Hanns Hörbiger.



Bearing in mind that supersonic ice which scientists have made in labs is nearly as hot as the sun.


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Velikovsky      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immanuel_Velikovsky#Ideas


In 1920s and 1930s, Velikovsky published his concepts in medical and psychoanalytic journals.[22]. He is best known, however, for research performed in 1940s when living in New York City. His main ideas in this area were summarized in an affidavit of November 1942,[23] and two privately published Scripta Academica pamphlets, Theses for the Reconstruction of Ancient History (1945) and Cosmos without Gravitation (1946).[24]


Rather than have his ideas dismissed wholesale because of potential flaws in any one area, Velikovsky then chose to publish them as a series of book volumes, aimed at a lay audience, dealing separately with his proposals on ancient history, and with areas more relevant to the physical sciences. Velikovsky was a passionate Zionist,[25][26] and this did steer the focus of his work, although its scope was considerably more far-reaching than this. The entire body of work could be said to stem from an attempt to solve the following problem: that to Velikovsky there appeared to be insufficient correlation in the written or archaeological records between Biblical history and what was known of the history of the area, in particular, Egypt.[27]


Velikovsky searched for common mention of events within literary records, and in the Ipuwer Papyrus he believed he had found a contemporary Egyptian account of the Plagues of Egypt. Moreover, he interpreted both accounts as descriptions of a great natural catastrophe. Velikovsky attempted to investigate the physical cause of these events, and extrapolated backwards and forwards in history from this point, cross-comparing written and mythical records from cultures on every inhabited continent, using them to attempt synchronisms of the historical records, yielding what he believed to be further periodic natural catastrophes that can be global in scale.[citation needed]


He arrived at a body of radical inter-disciplinary ideas, which might be summarised as:[citation needed]


Planet Earth has suffered natural catastrophes on a global scale, both before and during humankind's recorded history.
There is evidence for these catastrophes in the geological record (here Velikovsky was advocating Catastrophist ideas as opposed to the prevailing Uniformitarian notions) and archeological record. The extinction of many species had occurred catastrophically, not by gradual Darwinian means.


The catastrophes that occurred within the memory of humankind are recorded in the myths, legends and written history of all ancient cultures and civilisations. Velikovsky pointed to alleged concordances in the accounts of many cultures, and proposed that they referred to the same real events. For instance, the memory of a flood is recorded in the Hebrew Bible, in the Greek legend of Deucalion, and in the Manu legend of India. Velikovsky put forward the psychoanalytic idea of "Cultural Amnesia" as a mechanism whereby these literal records came to be regarded as mere myths and legends.


The causes of these natural catastrophes were close encounters between the Earth and other bodies within the solar system — not least what are now the planets Saturn, Jupiter, Venus, and Mars, these bodies having moved upon different orbits within human memory.
To explain the fact that these changes to the configuration of the solar system violate several well-understood laws of physics, Velikovsky invented a role for electromagnetic forces in counteracting gravity and orbital mechanics.


Some of Velikovsky's specific postulated catastrophes included:[citation needed]


A tentative suggestion that Earth had once been a satellite of a "proto-Saturn" body, before its current solar orbit.
That the Deluge (Noah's Flood) had been caused by proto-Saturn's entering a nova state, and ejecting much of its mass into space.
A suggestion that the planet Mercury was involved in the Tower of Babel catastrophe.

Jupiter had been the prime mover in the catastrophe that saw the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah.


Periodic close contacts with a "cometary Venus" (which had been ejected from Jupiter) had caused the Exodus events (c. 1500 BCE) and Joshua's subsequent "sun standing still" (Joshua 10:12–13) incident.


Periodic close contacts with Mars had caused havoc in the 8th and 7th centuries BCE.


As noted above, Velikovsky had conceived the broad sweep of this material by the early 1940s. However, within his lifetime, whilst he continued to research, expand and lecture upon the details of his ideas, he released only selected portions of his work to the public in book form:[citation needed]


Worlds in Collision (1950) discussed the literary and mythical records of the "Venus" and "Mars" catastrophes
Portions of his Revised Chronology were published as Ages in Chaos (1952), Peoples of the Sea (1977) and Rameses II and His Time (1978) (The related monograph Oedipus and Akhenaten, 1960, posited the thesis that pharaoh Akhenaten was the prototype for the Greek mythic figure Oedipus.)

Earth in Upheaval (1955) dealt with geological evidence for global natural catastrophes.


Velikovsky's ideas on his earlier Saturn/Mercury/Jupiter events were never published, and the available archived manuscripts are much less developed.[citation needed]


Of all the strands of his work, Velikovsky published least on his belief that electromagnetism plays a role in orbital mechanics. Although he appears to have retreated from the propositions in his 1946 monograph Cosmos without Gravitation, no such retreat is apparent in Stargazers and Gravediggers.[28] Cosmos without Gravitation, which Velikovsky placed in university libraries and sent to scientists, is a probable catalyst for the hostile response of astronomers and physicists to his later claims about astronomy.[29] However, other Velikovskian enthusiasts such as Ralph Juergens (dec.), Earl Milton (dec.), Wal Thornhill, and Donald E. Scott have claimed that stars are powered not by internal nuclear fusion, but by galactic-scale electrical discharge currents. Such ideas do not find support in the conventional literature and are rejected as pseudoscience by the scientific community.[30][31][32]

Revised chronology

Main article: Ages in Chaos


Velikovsky argued that the conventional chronology of the Near East and classical world, based upon Egyptian Sothic dating and the king lists of Manetho, was wholly flawed. This was the reason for the apparent absence of correlation between the Biblical account and those of neighbouring cultures, and also the cause of the enigmatic "Dark Ages" in Greece and elsewhere. Velikovsky shifted several chronologies and dynasties from the Egyptian Old Kingdom to Ptolemaic times by centuries (a scheme he called the Revised Chronology), placing The Exodus contemporary with the fall of the Middle Kingdom of Egypt. He proposed numerous other synchronisms stretching up to the time of Alexander the Great. He argued that these eliminate phantom "Dark Ages", and vindicate the biblical accounts of history and those recorded by Herodotus.


These ideas were first put forward briefly in his Theses for the Reconstruction of Ancient History, but Ages in Chaos was his first full-length work on the subject. This was followed by Oedipus and Akhenaton, Peoples of the Sea and Rameses II and His Time, and two further works that were unpublished at the time of his death but that are now available online at the Velikovsky Archive: The Assyrian


Conquest and The Dark Ages of Greece.


Though rejected by mainstream historians, these ideas have been developed by other historians such as David Rohl and Peter James, who have also attempted their own revised chronologies.

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If I recall, Einstein took more seriously, as did others, Velikovsky's theories and assertions following his accurate predictions of what would be found when probes visited the various planets- Venus in partcular. The big seller for the Electric/Plasma Universe, in general, is it's highy accurate ability to predict celestial phenomena. In conventional cosmology, we're always met with "breaks the laws of physics" or "shouldn't exist". This is because conventional cosmology just does not understand the basic fundamentals of how the universe works or is created. Not to forget that the known universe consists mostly of plasma and therefore anyone viewing it must have an understanding of how plasma and electromagnetism behaves.


When the first probe was sent to Venus, it was expected to be similar to Earth. Velikovsky predicted it would be very different and that the surface and atmosphere would several hundred degrees. He was, of course, correct and interest in his work was re-ignited. He based his prediction partly on the notion that Venus was a relatively new planet- possibly 10-12000 years old, and as such, still very hot. Don't quote me specifically but in these ballparks. He also predicted that Saturn would emit microwaves and was correct etc etc etc


When you take into account that the gas giants have somewhere around a couple of hundred moons, the idea is that the moons are birthed from them, in many instances at least. I believe Velikovsky's book was on Einstein's table if I'm correct.


Whilst some of his assertions have now been refuted by current enthusiasts of his work and the Electric Universe in general, his body of work and many of the assertions are still highly regarded. And then there was the modern day "book burning" of his best seller "Worlds in Collision".




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Did you know that Ethiopia's calander is 7 years behind us?


Travelling to Ethiopia is like taking a trip back in time. When you first set foot in the country, you can’t help but notice that Ethiopia has a calendar which is seven to eight years behind the rest of the world.



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On 11/16/2020 at 7:36 PM, alexa said:

Did you know that Ethiopia's calander is 7 years behind us?


Travelling to Ethiopia is like taking a trip back in time. When you first set foot in the country, you can’t help but notice that Ethiopia has a calendar which is seven to eight years behind the rest of the world.



Wow I did not at all know this and find it to be quite whimsical! Thanks for sharing 😁😅✌️

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Did you know that you can be fined up to £1,000 if you bring so much as a pebble home from the beach?


Under the Coastal Protection Act 1949, the removal of any natural material such as sand and pebbles from public beaches in the UK is illegal.

Last year, a tourist who had holidayed near Crackington Haven beach, Cornwall was forced to drive hundreds of miles back to the spot in order to return some pebbles he had taken from the beach.





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Did you know that the apples from the manchineel tree are known be some of the most poisonous apples in the the world, and if the tree it's self is touched it is extremely poisonous.

It is known as the death apple, and the tree is so toxic that you can't stand under it when it rains. plus there are warning signs all around the tree.






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I may be wrong, but I thought Velikovsky came up with the theory that our historical timeline was badly distorted.  The supposed "dark ages" occurred in a much more compact period of time.  He surmised that those able to manipulate our calendrical dating system added well nigh ten centuries to our timeline.  I forget where I read this, but feel he was the one who discovered this.

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 Alexa - about returning sand/pebbles to the beach:  I suppose I should return my physical container to the universe as I'm infringing on the preservation of the cosmos.  At least that's where it seems this insanity is going.  Some days I feel like eating one of those apples just to be done with the madness.

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Velikovsky's 'Oedipus and Akhnaten' is an excellent read.

The early Velikovsky books are well worth getting hold of, the later ones not so much. He tied himself in knots trying to make sense of his timelines, but he got some of it wrong.

No matter, he pointed the way.


David Rohl did an excellent job IMHO, his books are 'must haves'.

Now if only I had the time to learn Hittite and do what Rohl did for the Ancient Egyptians but for the Hittites and Assyrians - and he acknowledges it does need doing...

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When Queen Elizabeth 1st dead body lay in state, this happened


During the period in question, Southwell reports how there was a loud ‘crack’ from the coffin as Elizabeth’s ‘body and head’ broke open from the pressures of gases released as the corpse rotted. While the force of the explosion splintered the ‘wood lead and cere cloth’, people speculated on how much worst might it have been if the body had not been opened and disembowelled after death! It is interesting isn’t it, that the story of this event occurring after the end of Henry VIII is much repeated, and seen as a sign of his obesity and gluttony. But here we have the same thing happening with his daughter, who was not subject to such vices!



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