rideforever Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 I have been thinking recently that people love to suffer, they love to be disturbed distressed ... and they demand war they demand stress ... they positively flock to their phones to read the latest disaster. All that negative energy is very juicy even though it's dark. The story they tell themselves is that they have to know about the disaster so they can fix it. But ... that's not the truth. If the disaster was fixed they would be very sad indeed, where is the action gonna come from? To be happy is not actually the result of fixing bad things. It comes when you decide that you would prefer to live inside good feelings, which are a different quality of life than the negative life. They are more subtle, and peaceful. Life becomes easy, everything straightforward. But ... few are ready for that. They prefer more violence stress and drama ... they tell themselves they will be happy once they learn about the latest disaster. Lest we forget, fight the enemy, get informed ... and so on. But the truth is that they simply like the juiciness of negative emotions, and they have no real interest in feeling good. Feeling good ... is something you choose to feel, meaning you decide one day that you want to enjoy feeling good and that you no longer need to be negative. This understanding is where Law of Attraction, Affirmations, New Thought and A Course in Miracles comes from ... they are paths for people who are ready to feel good. It's all very strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michi713 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Why quote Jesus in the title? The way of Jesus Christ is nothing like the Law of Attraction and the rest you mentioned. I don’t understand why people would rather look to paths brought by modern teachers born out of the modern world, yet ignore teachings that have stood the test of thousands of years, written by way better clued in individuals. I guess it’s more cool and fashionable. How can happiness be attained without first realizing how one has strayed from what is right and good, and instead brought suffering upon oneself and others? Realizing the many ways the enemy deceives is part of coming to the truth, which is the start of finding real happiness. Most will be astounded at how far from truth they really are. Finding truth is a continuous process, a life long process of discovery. The world is totally fubared. It’s a done deal. That’s depressing. But hope comes from reliance on Christ. From God comes strength. It was possible for Daniel to survive Babylon and all its pitfalls. It is possible for us to survive the abomination of desolation. To be happy is to be grateful, thankful and reverent before the Lord for all the blessings bestowed upon you. Also, being thankful for the very difficult moments in which you grow. Happiness is not wanting anything but to reside within the love of God. No powers, no abilities are from yourself, but are gifts from God, to be developed in honor of Him, not yourself. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killing raven sun Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 13 hours ago, rideforever said: I have been thinking recently that people love to suffer, they love to be disturbed distressed ... and they demand war they demand stress ... this reeks of projection, is this you? 13 hours ago, rideforever said: All that negative energy is very juicy even though it's dark. every spirit resonates with like energy, and the vibration becomes nourishment for the soul, its a form of magnetic induction the secret is that its just energy and can be transmuted to be used any way you want, but the pitfall is in becoming the agitator that causes suffering, you fall into a circular trap, obsession, and most likely end up as space dust 13 hours ago, rideforever said: The story they tell themselves is that they have to know about the disaster so they can fix it. But ... that's not the truth. If the disaster was fixed they would be very sad indeed, where is the action gonna come from? most people live in fear, that is what moves them, they obsess about the potential for death, they see misery in others and learn to avoid life for fear of pain or death, they think they are clever for not having this or that experience, but they still die and are ill prepared to direct their journey so they become their obsession, and end up right where they were trying not to go, terribly sad 14 hours ago, rideforever said: To be happy is not actually the result of fixing bad things. It comes when you decide that you would prefer to live inside good feelings, which are a different quality of life than the negative life. They are more subtle, and peaceful. Life becomes easy, everything straightforward. this is absolute bullshit you sound like a fucking moron telling people to "just be happy, its easy!" fixing bad things in your own life is the path to happiness, thats pretty simple 14 hours ago, rideforever said: Feeling good ... is something you choose to feel, meaning you decide one day that you want to enjoy feeling good and that you no longer need to be negative. This understanding is where Law of Attraction, Affirmations, New Thought and A Course in Miracles comes from ... they are paths for people who are ready to feel good. yeah, this is grade a, top quality, bullfuckingshit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rideforever Posted November 14, 2020 Author Share Posted November 14, 2020 15 minutes ago, killing raven sun said: fixing bad things in your own life is the path to happiness, thats pretty simple Yes that's true at a certain level, and it's important ... there are no shortcuts to learning practical skills and dealing with reality. Anyone who doesn't deal with life will certainly not be able to do anything more advanced. For most people reading these ideas it would only lead to fakeness and lying to themselves whilst not taking care of their responsibilities. But .. it is not the final solution, there is a higher type of existence, of those that don't want to continue going through the problem-solution cycle. I am not even saying that I am personally ready for it .. but I see how it is. For people in the ordinary course of life they stimulate themselves with negativity, rushing towards it, to "fix it" ... and they consider that to be a solution. But it's not a solution because it does not stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killing raven sun Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 23 minutes ago, rideforever said: Anyone who doesn't deal with life will certainly not be able to do anything more advanced. what is more advanced than life??? 24 minutes ago, rideforever said: there is a higher type of existence, of those that don't want to continue going through the problem-solution cycle. dropping these vague references to some "higher existence" is uncool, what do you mean? how do we get there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 12 hours ago, Michi713 said: Why quote Jesus in the title? The way of Jesus Christ is nothing like the Law of Attraction and the rest you mentioned. I don’t understand why people would rather look to paths brought by modern teachers born out of the modern world, yet ignore teachings that have stood the test of thousands of years, written by way better clued in individuals. I guess it’s more cool and fashionable. How can happiness be attained without first realizing how one has strayed from what is right and good, and instead brought suffering upon oneself and others? Realizing the many ways the enemy deceives is part of coming to the truth, which is the start of finding real happiness. Most will be astounded at how far from truth they really are. Finding truth is a continuous process, a life long process of discovery. The world is totally fubared. It’s a done deal. That’s depressing. But hope comes from reliance on Christ. From God comes strength. It was possible for Daniel to survive Babylon and all its pitfalls. It is possible for us to survive the abomination of desolation. To be happy is to be grateful, thankful and reverent before the Lord for all the blessings bestowed upon you. Also, being thankful for the very difficult moments in which you grow. Happiness is not wanting anything but to reside within the love of God. No powers, no abilities are from yourself, but are gifts from God, to be developed in honor of Him, not yourself. How true this statement is Michi, we are now in the the last days (the tribulation) which will be a test of your commitment to Jesus, stand up for him and be the soldier he wants you to be. Stand up, stand up for Jesus, Ye soldiers of the cross; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rideforever Posted November 14, 2020 Author Share Posted November 14, 2020 17 hours ago, Michi713 said: The way of Jesus Christ @alexa But what is the "way of Jesus Christ" ... what actually is it ... what do you have to do? You think you just read a book? No. As for Protestantism it's just all talk. No, that's not it. Only in "Catholicism" and Orthodox do they actually do things, physical psychological and emotional practices - they at least make an effort. One type of Christian never ever really believes. In the NT Jesus literally cures people of horrific diseases ... from a distance. That is a literal fact. But most people never really take it seriously. They drift along in the club. Another type of Christian thinks it's all "a miracle" ... i.e. there are no explanations and I'm never going to get that far. No. A Christian is literally supposed to have these powers, and indeed the students of Jesus did, they also could cure people from a distance. Instantly. Same with the students of Laotzu and Buddha. So what exactly do you have to do ... what does it mean to "believe". We live in such a shit world of fallen dumb-f***s that the sewage is overwhelming, it is suffocating. I tell you if the supermarket no longer has any food after some social collapse, these people will take off their clothes and climb into the trees so far they have fallen. They have destroyed themselves. Anyway, you are right for criticizing the ahole New Age total bullshit ... which attracts weak minded cowardly lazy people who make a little cash profit by associating their teachings to Jesus. Yes. But ... the question remains, what was happening inside Jesus that so much light and power flew out of him? How can I be a Christian? Now look at how the internet people work ... they are like rats who have been fed so much sugar that first thing in the morning they rush to the sugar bottle to take another hit. Yes they are alive but they live through addiction to sugary intoxication and destroy themselves. Exactly the same behaviour with those who click open the internet in the morning to fight the latest disaster... they get a sugar rush from it. People love, and they love hearing horror stories and worshipping degenerates and whatever. Many faces of the same degenerative function. Inside they are wired up for heroin over-stimulation, for living from buzz to buzz. Problem-reaction-solution cycle, it becomes biochemical inside them. But the olds did not living like this. They followed the strong, the wise, the calm, the whole, they followed the modest, the patient, the integral. And so ... if you reject the stimulation of endlessly going into society to get your latest hit ... to be smacked around by the internet and the misery on it ... and instead contain your own life inside of you ... then other possibilities exist. This the kingdom of heaven inside. I no longer go outside, instead I go inside to discover my own truth, the light within. And if you do this comes the possibility of great change. That people won't understand. @killing raven sun There are many types of lives that are lived. People live in all sorts of ways, even biochemical rhythms as described above - it is not all the same. People live through misery, others through integrity, others through self-transformation into a higher life. But ... when you are surrounded by a miserable society ... and by that I mean the people are miserable lazy thievelike .... it is not easy to connect yourself to the Real World. You ask what is wrong with life ... which one? People on this planet no longer live normal lives. Few have read anything more than 5 years old. They don't know their parents let alone their culture. And then they lose everything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killing raven sun Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 ok, i understand you arent able to answer my questions, spewing dogmatic opinion is all you can do, like most christians you want to demonize society while being a part of it and doing nothing to change it good luck with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killing raven sun Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 2 hours ago, rideforever said: In the NT Jesus literally cures people of horrific diseases ... from a distance. That is a literal fact. But most people never really take it seriously. They drift along in the club. Another type of Christian thinks it's all "a miracle" ... i.e. there are no explanations and I'm never going to get that far. No. A Christian is literally supposed to have these powers, and indeed the students of Jesus did, they also could cure people from a distance. Instantly. if you cannot do this then clearly you are no follower of christ, you are being misled by the devil, you see the masses as "a shit world of fallen dumb-f***s that the sewage is overwhelming", but you do not help thanks for proving once again that people who think they are good are just serving evil unaware, christians are the physical hands and feet of the devil, nice job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rideforever Posted November 14, 2020 Author Share Posted November 14, 2020 (edited) @killing raven sun I did answer your questions ... but you have your agenda. The world is full of people who ... what do they do? They say "you do not help". But this is help, and this is the only real help. Look at the world ... how many charities are there? Millions. Does it help? No ... If you offer something different to them, they don't seem to understand. Probably the only thing people want is ... more charities. How many do you want, one for each person? It's pretty stupid isn't it. And .. unless you are really prepared to see how ridiculous and evil our society is ... not the world itself, not the plane itself ... but our society - then you refuse to see the truth. Do you think the rise and fall of civilizations is okay? What about the West currently destroying itself whilst being so rich - is that good? It is all a madness, a grave madness. Look on the internet millions of people screaming for one thing or another, accusing each other, fighting arguing destroying ... just look at the madness. It's Samsara a world of violence and aimless destruction. What will you do to change the world? You think it's easy to be a Christian ? The world will kill you dead for attempting to be a good man. The only thing the sheep of the world want is ... more of the same, more charities, more ... more empty words, more utopias. How mad people are. Today the West is falling and the church is in a big decline for 100 years. Can't they put 2 and 2 together? No they can't They blame the church, they blame men, they blame the white ... and in their madness burn down the only things holding them from extinction. Same thing happened many times. Just look at WW1, a world war that happened by mistake. Nobody even wanted a war ... just some small triffle and then millions were killed. It's a mad place. So you say ... you are not helping, I don't think you understand. So there is a fashion for hating Christians join in. If there is a fashion for jumping in the lake, join in that as well. Edited November 14, 2020 by rideforever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killing raven sun Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, rideforever said: @killing raven sun I did answer your questions ... but you have your agenda. The world is full of people who ... what do they do? They say "you do not help". But this is help, and this is the only real help. Look at the world ... how many charities are there? Millions. Does it help? No ... If you offer something different to them, they don't seem to understand. Probably the only thing people want is ... more charities. How many do you want, one for each person? It's pretty stupid isn't it. And .. unless you are really prepared to see how ridiculous and evil our society is ... not the world itself, not the plane itself ... but our society - then you refuse to see the truth. Do you think the rise and fall of civilizations is okay? What about the West currently destroying itself whilst being so rich - is that good? It is all a madness, a grave madness. Look on the internet millions of people screaming for one thing or another, accusing each other, fighting arguing destroying ... just look at the madness. It's Samsara a world of violence and aimless destruction. What will you do to change the world? You think it's easy to be a Christian ? The world will kill you dead for attempting to be a good man. The only thing the sheep of the world want is ... more of the same, more charities, more ... more empty words, more utopias. yeah, like i said, just darkness, no solutions, you see what you want to see, and you demonize those of us working to elevate humanity you are evil plain and simple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 5 hours ago, rideforever said: Only in "Catholicism" and Orthodox do they actually do things, physical psychological and emotional practices - they at least make an effort. The Catholics are the worst kind of doers in history and still are, Pope's are evil to the core and work for none other than Lucifer himself. Yes they make an effort, by murdering and torturing people, plus they are experts at causing war's while still professing to be whiter than white. Rome (The Vatican) is one of the first places to be destroyed upon Jesus's return. Do you think Jesus is coming back all meek and mild? No, he's coming back as an all out warrior this time, with fire & fierce revenge upon the wicked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rideforever Posted November 14, 2020 Author Share Posted November 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, alexa said: Catholics I said the Catholics not the Pope, not the Vatican. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rideforever Posted November 14, 2020 Author Share Posted November 14, 2020 1 hour ago, killing raven sun said: those of us working to elevate humanity Ha ... yes just switch on the TV. All of humanity is working to "elevate" humanity. And the solution is always just round the corner. Anyway mr sun raven killer ... I think it's time to get a divorce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, rideforever said: I said the Catholics not the Pope, not the Vatican. Catholicism, what ever, they are all the same to me, idol worshipers and very much, two faced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killing raven sun Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 1 minute ago, rideforever said: Ha ... yes just switch on the TV. All of humanity is working to "elevate" humanity. And the solution is always just round the corner. Anyway mr sun raven killer ... I think it's time to get a divorce. i agree, you watch too much tv, thats a large part of why you are so negative, no wonder you are getting divorced, you are intolerable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rideforever Posted November 14, 2020 Author Share Posted November 14, 2020 @killing raven sun that's it I've my lawyer on the phone !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rideforever Posted November 14, 2020 Author Share Posted November 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, alexa said: Catholicism, what ever, they are all the same to me, idol worshipers and very much, two faced. Okay ... I thought you were a Christian ... what do you do then? What do you think it means to be a Christian? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 10 minutes ago, rideforever said: I thought you were a Christian ... what do you do then? What do you think it means to be a Christian? I am a Christian, the greatest thing about being a Christian is being in a renewed friendship with God. That is something really amazing considering that nearly the whole world is steeped in rebellion against God. It's a spiritual friendship with Jesus who will guide me through my toughest moments. I know my sins are forgiven through the blood of Jesus. Although I fail at times, I am comforted by the fact that he will forgive my failures and love me for who I am. The amazing insights I've received from God just by reading his word is second to none. I just can't learn or get enough of God. The Scriptures to me are far from boring and they never cease to amaze me with some new insight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, alexa said: The Catholics are the worst kind of doers in history and still are, Pope's are evil to the core and work for none other than Lucifer himself. Yes they make an effort, by murdering and torturing people, plus they are experts at causing war's while still professing to be whiter than white. Rome (The Vatican) is one of the first places to be destroyed upon Jesus's return. Do you think Jesus is coming back all meek and mild? No, he's coming back as an all out warrior this time, with fire & fierce revenge upon the wicked. Jesus isn't coming back because he never left, he's always been here. The Second Coming people are missing the point....... Jesus won't save this world, it cannot be saved, but he will save you. Edited November 14, 2020 by Truthspoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rideforever Posted November 14, 2020 Author Share Posted November 14, 2020 57 minutes ago, alexa said: It's a spiritual friendship with Jesus who will guide me through my toughest moments. So are you saying that you talk to God or Jesus somehow and they speak to you in words ? What is it they say to you specifically? Or are you saying that when you read the scriptures and you feel inspired? Do you do any traditional Christian practices like the rosary lord's prayer contemplation confession crossing yourself kneeling - anything like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, rideforever said: Do you do any traditional Christian practices like the rosary lord's prayer contemplation confession crossing yourself kneeling - anything like that? I say the lords prayer sometimes but most definitely do not do confession or the rosary or crossing myself and kneeling this is what the Catholics are all about, plus they worship Mary. I do talk to God quite a lot and he answers me in ways you can't imagine. Edited November 14, 2020 by alexa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michi713 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Things aren’t always what they seem Just thinking about this stuff, what it means to practice Christianity. OK, we got praying and reading the word, receiving insights... When we think of Jesus, and what he did when he was on Earth, and how he wanted us to duplicate his deeds...he helped the poor a lot. Is what he said and did in regards to the poor really for the benefit of the poor or for us? Matthew 25:35-40 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’ Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’ The King replied, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’ Matthew 26:11 For you always have the poor with you, but you will not always have me. Does Jesus mean for us to do his good works by using an intermediary? He laid his hands directly on the leper. I don’t think it is about charity, like dropping off some groceries to the food aid bin at the store. It isn’t about cutting a check to “toys for tots” or some other thing. It isn’t about doing anything and then boasting about it, getting a tax break, or counting ourselves saved afterward. It isn’t to do it once, twice, forever, in secret, and think “that’ll do it!” I think there’s something more to it more guys! Possibly there is something to be learned, an ongoing lesson from direct interaction with the needy and afflicted. Secrets might be hidden right there, Jesus has to be hidden somewhere within that direct contact. Not for the sake of the poor but for ours! The whole Bible mentions the poor a whole lot too. https://www.openbible.info/topics/jesus_and_the_poor Never did it myself. Might be something to look into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Michi713 said: It isn’t about doing anything and then boasting about it Exactly. We shouldn't give to recieve, we should give because it's right. How do we reverse the virtue signalling trend though? How do we know who is really a good person when they could just be putting on an act to gain internet points from their peers? Edited November 14, 2020 by EnigmaticWorld 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rideforever Posted November 14, 2020 Author Share Posted November 14, 2020 (edited) In Matthew 25: 35-40 ... the first thing Jesus does is separate the sheep from the goats ... this means that you should be a sheep. In other words you should firstly and primarily be subservient to God, which means you must know God and do what he is telling you. Without that all actions are not useful. Jesus also says "the poor will always be with you". So any attempt to erase suffering from this land is wrong because the end of suffering comes directly from God. Jesus says consider the lillies ... they do not toil or spin. This means that you can forget about charity. The only charity is to point out to people that God giveth through nature, meaning there are fruits on the trees. Which indicates a kind of primitive life like the Quakers live. Everything else, urban life etc.., is a misunderstanding. Jesus never gave money to people, he gave direct healing. He says your faith has saved you. He said sell everything. In all this where is "charity" interpreted as giving money. I don't see that. In the preceding episode of Matthew 25, Jesus tells the story of the master who gave 3 bags of gold, one to each servant. Two servants did something with the money and it multiplied. One servant was afraid and hid the money. Jesus says that whoever has little, even that will be taken away - which is a different take on poverty. He says "Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’" I don't think this means charity, I think it just means to be kind to people, to look them in the eye and think well of them. ... Another thing to understand about Christianity is that the instructions are not in the Bible. The format doctrine and practices of the Orthodox and the Christian church were developed to change you so that you can be a Christian, and they were passed down directly as practices from Jesus. For instance the Eucharist is a re-enactment of the last supper. The instructions are not in the Bible. They are passed down orally. Therefore if you wish to be Christian you have to do those things. Jesus said that he gave the people parables so that they do not understand. The NT is those parables, it is the external story, the exoteric. But it is not the internals of the tradition, it is not the tradition itself, and although reading scripture and practicing on your own may be very good ... all the traditions on this planet are passed through direct transmission. For instance in Buddhism it is said that Buddha taught mind-to-mind, meaning by direct transmission, and you can't get that from a book. In Catholicism they speak of transmission by saying the Real Presence of Christ is at the Eucharist and the transubstantion of the bread and wine etc... that's what it means, a direct transmission. To be a Christian means that you have been transmitted the Christ, and that you can heal people directly. That is a Christian. From my experience Catholics are Christians, they have received the Christ - that is simply a direct observation that I have seen. I have never seen it in any other groups of people who call themselves Christians, except for the Eastern and Orthodox who are quite similar to the Catholics in that they do the practices, and have the traditional interpretation of the Bible. Edited November 14, 2020 by rideforever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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