I'm in trouble lads and lasses

[Macnamara]

10 minutes ago, Ecki Divad said:

I am not a fucking retard.

 

i don't think you are a retard

 

I just think you don't know what we are dealing with

 

what i see you doing there is rationalising away the threat. You are trying to convince yourself that the threat will pass if you just ignore it

 

I'm saying it won't and i can say that with confidence because i know what these people are doing

Edited November 12, 2020 by Macnamara

[Ecki Divad]

16 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

i don't think you are a retard

 

I just think you don't know what we are dealing with

 

I do know what we are dealing with.  I am on this Forum.  I can see it.  I can hear it.  What else is there to see, hear or understand?  It's clear.

 

Or maybe you subscribe to some deeper conspiracy theory and you think I'm not surmising some other-worldly wavelength of enlightenment?  Let's say (just for argument's sake - this is just an example) you think the world is run by Satanic paedophiles in league with Common Purpose.  This may well be true, and for all I know or frankly could care, it is true, but my reality will be the same whether it's true or not.  Whether the rulers are paedophiles, bibliophiles, or fucking stamp collectors with a sinister interest in triangular philatelic issues from the 1950s Soviet era, they're still rulers.  Rulers are rulers.  It still means there are people who control important things and lord it over me and who, can ultimately, force me to do things against my will.  Why should I care if they're lizards or paedos or whatever?  It's above my station.

 

The immediate issue is whether they would go to the lengths of actually physically forcing me personally - and others like me - to submit to a vaccine (whether necessary or not).  I personally think that is unlikely and I've provided you with a rational and logical explanation why.  It's not that I'm ignorant of what we're dealing with in general terms.

 

Even if they're evil shape-shifting lizards and Brian Gerrish is their earthly spokesman in some sort of reverse psy-op, it's unlikely that they're all sat there saying: 'My God, Brian, listen in.  You know what we've overlooked?  I can't believe it.  That Nobody fucker in Nowhereville.  You know, that sad bastard who goes on the David Icke forum?  Fuck me blind with a fiddle!   If we don't make him take that vaccine, we are fucking screwed and I mean screwed with a capital 'S' and a 'T' on the end, and you can forget that guest spot on Richie Allen.  Get on it now, Brian son!"

 

To be frank about it, I'm just a Nobody.  You're a Nobody.  We're all here (or most of us here) Nobodies.  Sorry, but the people in charge (whatever or whoever they are) don't give a flying fuck if you refuse to take the vaccine.  We're not on their radar, for the most part.  That's not munificence on their part, it's realism.  Yes, one of us may turn out to be unlucky and be made an example of for the purpose of social media propaganda.  But in general, they'll just sweep us under the carpet, with exemptions so we can wriggle out of it.

 

Of course, I could be all wrong.  If I am wrong, I will be the one who resists.  Yes, I may be ignorant about the wavelength of consciousness and how it's manipulated by lizard bankers to change the interest rates, but fuck me, I will resist to the last.

Edited November 12, 2020 by Ecki Divad

[Macnamara]

1 minute ago, Ecki Divad said:

 It's above my station.

 

That's 'little me' thinking

 

It isn't above my station. Boris and hancock et al are not smarter than i am and are in no way better placed to make decisions about my wellbeing than i am myself

 

1 minute ago, Ecki Divad said:

The immediate issue is whether they would go to the lengths of actually physically forcing me personally - and others like me - to submit to a vaccine (whether necessary or not).

 

that's where background information about these people and what they have been involved in historically and of what they intend to achieve provides the context within which to see things clearly

 

some people have done more research than others. My associate predicted a disease X 2 years ago. Did you? No you did not

 

We have been speaking about all of these things that have come in FOR YEARS and if the last two forums hadn't been wiped i could show EXACTLY where it has all been discussed

 

Did you do that? No you didn't so screw your fucking neck in and wise up

[DarianF]

13 minutes ago, Ecki Divad said:

The immediate issue is whether they would go to the lengths of actually physically forcing me personally - and others like me - to submit to a vaccine (whether necessary or not).  I personally think that is unlikely and I've provided you with a rational and logical explanation why.  It's not that I'm ignorant of what we're dealing with in general terms.

 

Well, consider this. The Western Australian Government already has the power to remove your clothing and force test and/or vaccinate you (Public Health Act 2016: SECT 157, SECT 158) – https://www.legislation.wa.gov.au/legislation/prod/filestore.nsf/FileURL/mrdoc_43155.pdf/$FILE/Public Health Act 2016 - [00-k0-00].pdf?OpenElement

 

So with that in mind, consider the fact that the same types of psychopathic thugs that rule Western Australia also rule the UK – and then it's not much of a stretch for the imagination to consider they indeed are likely to force vaccinate you.

 

And under their 'serious public health incident powers' (ibid., SECT 152), they really don't care what rational or logical objections may be.

[factJack]

I thought the vaccine will contain some sort of chip which can be detected by IIT equipment at airport or sports stadium etc?

If it's just a piece of paper or database entry Im sure the dark web will do a roaring trade. espoecially when everyone can buy bitcoin at the local post office.

[Michael]

18 hours ago, Ecki Divad said:

 

Then why don't they insist that I always wear a mask when other people do?

 

I'd rather you didn't try to initiate a discussion by insulting me and talking down to me in a condescending way. Please don't presume to tell me what I do or don't understand.  It's not that I'm overly-sensitive, but I'm a mature man with quite a lot of experience.  I'm not a school kid in your geography class.  

 

Please engage with me in a collegiate way.  I'm not saying I am perfect in the way I speak to people - I'm only human like you - but I do try and engage with people as peers, rather than talking down to people and presuming what others do and don't understand.  I am not a fucking retard.

 

Now, let me explain where I am coming from - again.

 

It could be that they will try and make me have a vaccination against my will.  I really don't know.  It's not as if I have a crystal ball and it's not as if there's anything I can do about it, if they decide to try.  But my point is that is that it probably won't happen that way because it's not logistically and economically and tactically sensible for them to enforce it to the very nth of the nth.  Past experience suggests that there are normally ways round compulsory things and exemptions are quietly granted for people, like us, who dissent, mainly because the authorities regard us as a nuisance minority and not really a threat to them.

 

Now, I could be wrong about this, but I'm not relying on this in any of my actions.  Like everybody else, I have to take each day as it comes and see where this goes.  If they do try to force me, then it becomes a question of how this 'force' is applied.  I will resist to the last.

 

As we cannot fully predict the future, what you say might be true or might be not.

Its not unreasonable to think the way you do, because its possible.

There might indeed be a minority they dont bother with, as long as they can do it to most of the people on this planet, but as Macnamara said you cannot rule it out that they want to get everyone.

Here is what im thinking: Society as a whole is in a change. You either play by their rules and you will have somewhat limited freedom to do what you want (you will never have freedom as you knew it, as everything comes into a control grid) and if you dont, you will be a cast out, trouble to do anything like work, earn money, go shopping, drive, fly and so on. You basically cannot take part in normal human activity and even a forced transport into a concentration camp cannot be dismissed.

 

In Germany we will have a bill passed on Nov.19.2020 that gives authorities almost full control. They can decide who gets vaccinated, who gets tested, they can come into your home and do it to you, they will use military, flying will never be possible wihout a health passport, they can close shops at will.

In Greece people cannot even leave their homes without calling authorities.

In Austria you are not allowed to leave your home past 8oclock pm - 6oclock am (accept for work and for excersise)

Can you imagine what happens if you resist? They already show no mercy, no empathy. They are capable of everything.

Totalitarian systems never have room for empathy. They are dangerous, because it makes humans capable of the most cruel things you can imagine and we are going down that road in a rapid speed.

People that think we will go back as things were are kidding themself. They will never give up that power they already aquired.

 

As you can see, even if you fly under the radar, you are an outcast.

Techincally they dont have to force it upon you, its enough if they tighten the strings to a point where you have no other option as to do what they want. (i wont do that btw, i will resist them as long as i live)

 

There are no easy ways out. The problem wont solve itself. You might get lucky and somehow slip by, but i wouldnt count on it. What you have seen over the last 9 months should give anybody with a sense of empathy for others enough material to understand that they are mercyless, cruel, heartless.

 

 

Edited November 13, 2020 by Michael

[TheAwakened]

I agree with @Ecki DivadI do not believe the government will force entry into your home and put a needle inside you. No way. 

 

This idea is too in your face. If they do this they might as well just tell people the real reason why they're enforcing proxy-martial law because thats what it is - Martial law. 

 

They've created a fictional virus to give people the idea that they're doing all these restrictions for our own health. Look, if the government were bold from the start people wouldn't ever obey any of their rules.

 

So I agree with @Ecki Divadbecause there method is extremely covert.  

 

The most they would do is make it so inconvenient for people who deny the vaccine and the subsequent "nanotech" "biotech" tracking system.

 

I forsee a future where society will be split between people like us who choice to disobey and the people who obey. 

 

The individuals who disobey may actually be a bigger number than we think as these lies become more and more obvious. We have to go to courts, avoid certain places, skip healthcare facilities etc. 

 

Of course there is a possibility they may outright force us violently but its not likely because doing this will wake more people up from their sleep. 

 

The worse they'll do is arrest people, fine us and use psychological manipulation to a grand scheme. 

 

Again this may be wrong but some people on here need to throttle back their judgement a bit. Remember, this anti-Gov movement is huge as it is. 

Edited November 13, 2020 by TheAwakened

[Ethel]

On 11/11/2020 at 11:36 AM, The Illuminator said:

So got to work today. Boss was beaming, so happy. Pharmacies are going to be required to do twice weekly new lick 15min tests. Marvelous they are, much better than last ones apparently. Looks like all pharmacy staff will be required to vaccinate too. Anyone know much about the innova lateral flow test device?

https://www.pharmacymagazine.co.uk/all-pharmacy-staff-to-be-tested-twice-a-week-for-covid-19

Not sure what I can do. Unless I change professions. Everybody was right, they'll not make it mandatory but make it impossible for you to carry on normally if you dont have it.

How the fuck have they got this new method vaccine ready so quick?

 

As with all things in life, there are options available to you, it depends on your outlook which ones you explore. If you fall into the "any job is better than no job" camp of people in our society, OPTION A is to continue working for the pharmacy and continue to play a part in peddling poison to people in order to make billionaires richer. This choice will also involve allowing your employers to inject poison, including mercury, into your body, again, so that billionaires can become richer.

 

Or, OPTION B: you could ponder the reality that prostitution, crack-dealing, and being an assassin are all jobs, thereby proving that not all paid work necessarily makes the world a better place, and that, in the grand scheme of things, neither does your job. At all. However, when you live in a corrupt cesspit, integrity comes at a price. 

 

Those who promote 'survival of the fittest ideals' will particularly enjoy option A. The added benefit of this option is that pharmacies will be one of the industries set to thrive in our brave new world, profiting off the gargantuan amounts of physical and psychological sickness which will soon overwhelm society in response to lockdowns and other restrictions, and the naivete of people who think anything sold in a pharmacy could possibly benefit them in any way, shape or form.

Edited November 13, 2020 by Ethel

[Ethel]

On 11/12/2020 at 12:34 AM, Macnamara said:

never go full tinfoil...

 

Why?

[Ethel]

On 11/12/2020 at 7:43 PM, Macnamara said:

So its better to drop just one solid truthbomb and then move the conversation along to more normal territory 

 

This is pandering. Remember: conditional acceptance from others is exactly that. I'm pretty sure it's better to be hated for what you are than loved for what you're not.

[The Illuminator]

1 hour ago, Ethel said:

 

As with all things in life, there are options available to you, it depends on your outlook which ones you explore. If you fall into the "any job is better than no job" camp of people in our society, OPTION A is to continue working for the pharmacy and continue to play a part in peddling poison to people in order to make billionaires richer. This choice will also involve allowing your employers to inject poison, including mercury, into your body, again, so that billionaires can become richer.

 

Or, OPTION B: you could ponder the reality that prostitution, crack-dealing, and being an assassin are all jobs, thereby proving that not all paid work necessarily makes the world a better place, and that, in the grand scheme of things, neither does your job. At all. However, when you live in a corrupt cesspit, integrity comes at a price. 

 

Those who promote 'survival of the fittest ideals' will particularly enjoy option A. The added benefit of this option is that pharmacies will be one of the industries set to thrive in our brave new world, profiting off the gargantuan amounts of physical and psychological sickness which will soon overwhelm society in response to lockdowns and other restrictions, and the naivete of people who think anything sold in a pharmacy could possibly benefit them in any way, shape or form.

 

Great post. Cant argue with any of that. Most of my peers are rubbing their hands after been down trodden as a sector last 8years or so. I'm not money oriented so not fussed that im in a sector that's not affected by lockdowns and looking to thrive going forward. I'm defo not option A, but I have a young family to think about.

 

Personally. Looks like it's coming to a head sooner than later. My boss says they rolling vaccines out before Christmas to care homes, then us. So even if they dont make it mandatory for all staff in pharmacies to be vaccinated. The owner still wants it done as he doesnt want vaccinated staff to not wear masks and ones who dont still wearing them. Sends out the wrong messages apparently.

 

I never thought they would be this quick to roll it out. 

 

Why are we in a world when I have to make these choices? Its depressing as fuck. I feel like crying at any second when I think about the crunch decision loomimg. It's so close now. The thought of choosing an easy life for me and mine or standing up for what I believe in. 

 

 

[Ethel]

48 minutes ago, The Illuminator said:

 

Great post. Cant argue with any of that. Most of my peers are rubbing their hands after been down trodden as a sector last 8years or so. I'm not money oriented so not fussed that im in a sector that's not affected by lockdowns and looking to thrive going forward. I'm defo not option A, but I have a young family to think about.

 

Personally. Looks like it's coming to a head sooner than later. My boss says they rolling vaccines out before Christmas to care homes, then us. So even if they dont make it mandatory for all staff in pharmacies to be vaccinated. The owner still wants it done as he doesnt want vaccinated staff to not wear masks and ones who dont still wearing them. Sends out the wrong messages apparently.

 

I never thought they would be this quick to roll it out. 

 

Why are we in a world when I have to make these choices? Its depressing as fuck. I feel like crying at any second when I think about the crunch decision loomimg. It's so close now. The thought of choosing an easy life for me and mine or standing up for what I believe in. 

 

 

 

I have a special admiration for people who are trying to raise children to be critical thinkers at a time like this. The level of difficulty associated with being a parent at this time, whilst also seeing through everything that's going on, must be heavy duty. I couldn't do it, I am struggling just to get by just looking after me. 

 

If I were in your shoes, working in a pharmacy I'd sabotage the hell out of as many things as possible, especially relating to vaccines, before moving on. Just saying ;-)

Edited November 13, 2020 by Ethel

[Clubsandwich]

On 11/12/2020 at 8:20 PM, Macnamara said:

 

That's 'little me' thinking

 

It isn't above my station. Boris and hancock et al are not smarter than i am and are in no way better placed to make decisions about my wellbeing than i am myself

 

 

that's where background information about these people and what they have been involved in historically and of what they intend to achieve provides the context within which to see things clearly

 

some people have done more research than others. My associate predicted a disease X 2 years ago. Did you? No you did not

 

We have been speaking about all of these things that have come in FOR YEARS and if the last two forums hadn't been wiped i could show EXACTLY where it has all been discussed

 

Did you do that? No you didn't so screw your fucking neck in and wise up

 

 

 

[Macnamara]

3 hours ago, Ethel said:

This is pandering. Remember: conditional acceptance from others is exactly that. I'm pretty sure it's better to be hated for what you are than loved for what you're not.

 

if you push too hard you might lose them altogether...that's the point i'm making

 

it depends on the situation

[Macnamara]

3 hours ago, Ethel said:

Why?

 

some people have no point of reference for some of this info

 

i don't know about you but i learned in stages

[DarianF]

19 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

some people have no point of reference for some of this info

 

i don't know about you but i learned in stages

 

It can be a long process.

[itsnotallrightjack]

On 11/12/2020 at 10:01 AM, CitizenX said:

 

If you are in England (or the UK), then you can simply refuse to have the vaccine.

 

No employment contract can force you to take a medical intervention as it would contravene Human Rights legislation to which the UK is a part of.

 

All you need to do is state in writing that you do not wish to have any such vaccine or other medical, intervention. You do not need to state why.

 

If your employer insists on it, threatens you with dismissal, or takes any form of disciplinary action against you, including dismissal, then you would have a case for Unfair Dismissal (as long as you had at least 2 years service) or Constructive Dismissal (where you resign your post due to the employer's behaviour).

 

My sister is currently having a similar battle with wearing face masks at work (she is exempt, but her employer told her she cannot come to work without wearing it).

 

We got legal advice, plus advice from ACAS, and they have reassured her that no employer can force a medical intervention upon their employees as part of their employment.

 

My advice to you is to purchase a reliable covert recording device (which can last all day, or at least the length of your shift) and record everything at work (just so you can catch any coercion or other illegal behaviour).

 

Covertly recorded information is admissible at employment tribunals, and gives you the 4 aces in hand if you should need them.

 

Give me a DM if you need further assistance, or if you prefer I can counsel further on the public boards so others have a few more tools, to fight this sort of behaviour from their employer.

 

Useful advice Citizen X. As it stands this is currently true, but I think they'll bring in these shitty "covid tests" as mandatory by stealth. First employers will give precedence over sheepy employees who are willing line up every day whilst some squaddie on site shoves cotton buds down their throats and up their noses before clocking on/signing on for their "shift." These ones will be given "financial incentives" "bonuses" and offered "free training for promotion" etc.

 

Government are already talking about "freedom passports" : those who willing comply with all this nonsense will get "rewards" for doing so. 

 

As for vaccines- well as it stands they need to be kept in huge industrial fridges and transported in freezer lorries. Given the sheer amount of lorries and big fridges needed ( we have around 70 million people here in UK) it is not possible for them to make it law that everyone  has to get  vaccinated. I don't think they are that bothered about the youngsters-they will just make it available to NHS workers and patients, old people and those with ailments like CPOD. 

 

I think they will just try and enforce those shitty "covid tests." They are very obsessed with them right now.