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The site of the mythical Garden of the Hesperides, in present day Morocco.

In the Greek tale the garden of immortality was not garded by a cherubim with a fiery sword but by a many-headed dragon called Ladon, though in most depictions Ladon is portrayed as a Serpent entwined around the tree of immortality. 
 
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Forbidden magic-apples and Snakes.....it's the same story!
 

So in the Canaanite version of the story we have Hercules/Melqart, being instructed by Zeus to steal the apples of immortality from the enchanted garden, in this version however it is the serpent which guards and protects the tree. Hercules apparently kills the snake/hydra creature Ladon and returns with his golden apples of immortality.

Even stranger, if we look for further parallels between Baal/Hercules and the creation myth then they abound. Baal's mother was Asherah, named 'The Mother of All Living'. This strangely echoes the Biblical passage in Genesis 3:20 :
 

"And Adam called his wife's name Eve, because she was the mother of all living."

 
What's more, Eve or Havvah was first called 'Ishah' or WOMAN, which clearly has a phonetic similarity to the name ASHERAH. Additionally the Phoenician word for snake CHWT appears in a Phoenician inscription as one of the names of the Goddess ASHERAH. The Hebrew name for Eve is CHAWWAH, while the Hebrew word for snake is CHWWH, so there is an association with this name and the word 'to live' with the root of 'snake'. 
 
 
 
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1 hour ago, Michi713 said:

@killing raven sun If you please, who (or what) is God to you?  

there is only one force in the universe, Mind, all else is derived from there

 

scientists have recently discovered a "window" to see Mind force in action and they call it "superposition"

 

the highest ideal of Mind force in the universe is the perfect future self that is fully integrated into the infinite, holding in its awareness all information and sending that information to minds as they ask, it does this free of charge, no suffering or repenting needed

 

the "god" of the old testament is clearly a flesh being, how else is he walking in the garden looking for adam and eve? he is accompanied by the elohim, who also are flesh beings

 

this "gods" name was yahweh, or whatever you please, and he came here to build the 'paradise machine', a careful alignment of the planets that provided ideal life conditions, saturn was discharging in 'brown dwarf' mode giving off a pleasant red glow that helped plants grow better than pure sunlight, the earth was located in saturns plasma sheath which blocked out a view of the stars, but it also blocked out much of the cosmic and solar radiation that causes telomere damage, this helped things live longer, furthermore, the configuration of the planetary orbits changed the energy discharge through the planets which affects gravitational force, the gravity on earth was one fourth of what we experience today, that enabled having the large flora and fauna that today would be crushed under its own weight

 

in the end, yahweh was fed up, he told his followers there would be 144,000 chosen to head out with him, and when they left the paradise machine began to collapse, for thousands of years the planets wobbled around finding new orbits, saturn fell away from the central Birkeland currents that power the sun and planets and lost its brown dwarf discharge state, those on earth could see deep space for the first time, the abyss, at the same time earths discharge rate changed and gravity increased, we also began spinning on a new axis bringing "seasons" and "weather" that were unknown previously, in the end people took to living in caves or under rocks, like the anasazi, until the regular rock falls subsided, these events were those that destroyed the megalithic cities scattered about the earth, those cities were the "babylon" of the bible, a world government that had become so corrupt that even its progenitor, yahweh, couldnt stand it, armageddon was a long, long time ago, yahweh is gone and never coming back, trust

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29 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:
hesperides2.JPG
The site of the mythical Garden of the Hesperides, in present day Morocco.

In the Greek tale the garden of immortality was not garded by a cherubim with a fiery sword but by a many-headed dragon called Ladon, though in most depictions Ladon is portrayed as a Serpent entwined around the tree of immortality. 
 
Herakles_Ladon_Staatliche_Antikensammlungen_SL89.jpg
Forbidden magic-apples and Snakes.....it's the same story!
 

So in the Canaanite version of the story we have Hercules/Melqart, being instructed by Zeus to steal the apples of immortality from the enchanted garden, in this version however it is the serpent which guards and protects the tree. Hercules apparently kills the snake/hydra creature Ladon and returns with his golden apples of immortality.

Even stranger, if we look for further parallels between Baal/Hercules and the creation myth then they abound. Baal's mother was Asherah, named 'The Mother of All Living'. This strangely echoes the Biblical passage in Genesis 3:20 :
 

"And Adam called his wife's name Eve, because she was the mother of all living."

 
What's more, Eve or Havvah was first called 'Ishah' or WOMAN, which clearly has a phonetic similarity to the name ASHERAH. Additionally the Phoenician word for snake CHWT appears in a Phoenician inscription as one of the names of the Goddess ASHERAH. The Hebrew name for Eve is CHAWWAH, while the Hebrew word for snake is CHWWH, so there is an association with this name and the word 'to live' with the root of 'snake'. 
 
 
 

this is a very different story, isnt it?

 

this story talks about satan, the god of the earth, which i maintain is the electric force that animates matter into life, and is hinted at by the 'snake' imagery, the snake being a sine wave and representing energy flow

 

the snake around the tree is an illustration of the kundalini rising in the spine, our bodies are the tree and the snake is the immortal soul energy

 

the great battle is between the energy of the earth mother wanting us to stay with her vs the urge to perfection which demands we experience the rest of the universe

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21 hours ago, killing raven sun said:

satan, the god of the earth

 

satan doesn't refer to the god of the earth.  All the creatures of the earth are more or less productive and well organised, they are sincere in others at the animal level.  Nothing wrong with any of them, more or less.

But humans ... when it is said humans act like animals ... it is not literal because then they would be productive and well organised. They might be primitive but they would have honesty.   But when humans are said to behave like animals what it is means is that they are evil, they act insincerely, they have turned against nature against truth.

That is satan.  So he's not God of the Earth at all.

He is God of the insincere, of the deranged, of those who confuse things, those who betray.

It's not actually a higher or lower thing at all.  Worms can be sincere, they have their job and they do it.  A worm is lower, it is of the earth, but nothing at all is wrong.

satan is the force that damages, the undoes, that twists ... that is crooked, that is diseased, that is unhealthy.  it has learnt to live like this in a parasitism, not even parasitism ... but something worse than that.  it has no goal but to be evil.

When you are making a great crossing there is great danger, you are in a vulnerable area ... and the wolves come and pick you off, not everybody makes it.

That is pretty much where human beings are at.   They are not necessarily winning.   Not every story ends up like the fairy tales.  Many species have been consumed on this planet.   I think that at a certain point no more humans will be able to escape.

The problem with not escaping is not actually death, but living forever in hell ... meaning you are kept alive at a very low level whilst your soul energy is continuously drained.   There are many movies where such things happen.

Well ... it can be said that spiders live like this as well.   Maybe this whole planet just lives at a very low level.

I also saw recently a video of a goat high up on  a dam's wall, that climb high up to lick salt off the side of the walls, an eagle came down and the goat couldn't move the eagle just picked it up and flew a few metres and dropped the goat from height and it smashed below ... and the eagle went down to eat it up.  It's parasitism, or a kind of intelligence.

Anyway, what can you say about this place?   The only question is "Where Is The Exit?"

 

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3 hours ago, rideforever said:

satan doesn't refer to the god of the earth. 

satan is god of the world, mans world of fleshy debauchery, a sinners paradise, but what is sin?

 

the infamous seven deadly sins, from which all other evils emerge:

pride, greed, lust, wrath, gluttony, envy, and sloth

 

all of those sins are of the flesh, they are derived from enjoying the material world, from loving the earth so much you lose control

 

all material has a spirit energy, humans are made of earth material, our bodies are the conscious expression of earth energy, we are one with the mother

 

there has been much demonization of women over the years so maybe you understand when i say that mother earth was replaced by satan

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13 hours ago, killing raven sun said:

our bodies are the conscious expression of earth energy, we are one with the mother

 

Our bodies are the micro of the macro who is God the father, and he made us all in his Image. The earth plus all of us reside in the eye of God. The anatomy of the eye gives us all the proof we need.

 

 

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On 11/10/2020 at 5:00 PM, killing raven sun said:

the great battle is between the energy of the earth mother wanting us to stay with her vs the urge to perfection which demands we experience the rest of the universe

 

I've thought the exact same thing myself!

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Who is God?

 

For me, God is the universe itself or the force behind the creation of the universe. It created the building blocks for life, it created the worlds to sustain life and everything is connected to it and carrying a piece of the universal spirit inside, all life, tree's, flowers, animals and of course humans are a part of the universal spirit.

 

Jesus said - I am the light above all living things (the Sun) lift a rock and you will find me, split a piece of wood and I shall appear (sunlight) so if Jesus is the SON of God and allegorically in the Christian teachings he is the SUN, and Jesus is telling us he is the SUN in those words, then the Father is that which created the SUN and the SON (Jesus) and us and all life.

 

Therefore, God is the force which created the SUN and everything else in the universe and the force which sustains us. To our knowledge, that is the universe itself, or if you believe in the Big Bang it is the energy that instigated the Big Bang.

 

What confuses me is in Genesis where it say's - "Let us make man in our image" then God makes a man and a woman. That suggests that God is a being of some description with arms and legs and a head like us. Now the mystics or Kabbalists will point out God must be a hermaphrodite otherwise how could he a man and woman be both be in his image. I think thats nonsense but you have to explain it "Let us make man in our image" then God made a man and woman. A literal reading and understanding of that phrase suggests God had a female accomplice, 'Let US make man in OUR image" and then he made a man and a woman, hence the mirror image of a man and a woman is a male and female God. So God had a wife or partner. Thats been suppressed.

 

So if Genesis is correct then God is could be a physical being like us or as the mystics have it a hermaphrodite being. I think if you go down this route, it leads to aliens.

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26 minutes ago, pi3141 said:

Who is God?

 

For me, God is the universe itself or the force behind the creation of the universe. It created the building blocks for life, it created the worlds to sustain life and everything is connected to it and carrying a piece of the universal spirit inside, all life, tree's, flowers, animals and of course humans are a part of the universal spirit.

i would extend the universal spirit to include rocks and air, fire and subatomic particles, everything

 

this is known as "animism", that all matter contains life spirit

 

30 minutes ago, pi3141 said:

What confuses me is in Genesis where it say's - "Let us make man in our image" then God makes a man and a woman. That suggests that God is a being of some description with arms and legs and a head like us.

yes, that passage is quite confusing

 

but consider that earth humans are not the only conscious beings in the universe, there is little chance that earth is the only planet in the whole universe that has life, the idea is preposterous

 

yahweh was quite clearly a flesh being, so were the elohim, they are described as such several times in the old testament, and yes, they were male and female, that part got lost in a male dominated world

 

36 minutes ago, pi3141 said:

I think if you go down this route, it leads to aliens.

probably, but aliens almost exactly like us, that is what they knew to create, the difference being we were created from earth

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This world is not of Divine Creation.

It's a miscreation. The egoMatrix.

 The Son is the Totality of God's Infinite Creation. It is not a physical entity. Neither is God. The Son is like the Creator. The difference is in magnitude. God is Greater than The Son. All is ONE. GiveReceive is One.

The "sun" is not a burning ball in the sky. The sun is like a movie projector in a theater. The "Sun"/ Son is the hole in The Matrix, it is the portal, the Way out. It is The Light(Truth) shining into this distorted dream of darkness and death.  Darkness is unawareness-delusion, believing in and identifying with illusion and untrue ideas(dead(the moon= yin-yang, there is no dark side, it's all dark=dead-- 2-faced, insane=delusional perceptions.)

The Truth Sets Us Free.

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3 minutes ago, novymir said:

This world is not of Divine Creation.

It's a miscreation. The egoMatrix.

fine, then who or what created reality?

 

5 minutes ago, novymir said:

The Son is the Totality of God's Infinite Creation. It is not a physical entity. Neither is God. The Son is like the Creator. The difference is in magnitude. God is Greater than The Son. All is ONE. GiveReceive is One.

so you think that 'gods infinite creation' is 'not a physical reality'? then what is it?

 

how exactly is 'god greater than the son' but still 'all is one'? god is "more equal"?

 

10 minutes ago, novymir said:

The "sun" is not a burning ball in the sky. The sun is like a movie projector in a theater. The "Sun"/ Son is the hole in The Matrix, it is the portal, the Way out.

the way out of what? is your god holding you hostage?

 

and why would god create a matrix? what is the motivation to fool us all?

 

12 minutes ago, novymir said:

It is The Light(Truth) shining into this distorted dream of darkness and death.

darkness is not a dream, its a mental disorder that comes from fearing physical death

 

the universe is made of light, darkness is the nonperception of light, because we are limited by the flesh we cannot see all the light

 

light is an energy signature, darkness has no reality, it does not propagate and cannot be measured, it can only be spoken of in terms of 'lack of light', when machines are developed to gather a wide spectrum of radiation the universe glows with interminable brightness, the percieved darkness disappears

 

19 minutes ago, novymir said:

Darkness is unawareness-delusion, believing in and identifying with illusion and untrue ideas(dead(the moon= yin-yang, there is no dark side, it's all dark=dead-- 2-faced, insane=delusional perceptions.)

while i agree that darkness is ignorance, i would add that death is also a form of darkness and illusory

 

your moon thing seems disjointed, yin and yang are opposite charges coming together to form creation, it has nothing to do with death or darkness

 

25 minutes ago, novymir said:

The Truth Sets Us Free.

and what is that truth?

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I said this world is a miscreation with ego. Real Creation happens with God(Love-Spirit).

I don't provide answers, only clues. "A Course in Miracles" can lead to answers. Earlier posts have usefulness. I'm under attack by a "headache" right now so I somewhat incapacitated for the moment( agent Smith in my mind)

 

The picture is just another representation of what I communicated about the "sun".

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Same thing. Cloud formation above "Israel". Also image used for one of D.I.'s books.

If one gets a very high res image from orig source, one can see what it is, and what it's doing...what is around it, and what is watching it. "Blue Marble-1972"

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26 minutes ago, novymir said:

I said this world is a miscreation with ego. Real Creation happens with God(Love-Spirit).

so, again, who or what created reality? how is 'miscreation' separate from 'real creation'?

 

what is the 'love-spirit' creating that is 'real'? the universe? who created the 'miscreation'?

 

30 minutes ago, novymir said:

I don't provide answers, only clues. "A Course in Miracles" can lead to answers.

so you are just regurgitating what you gleaned from a book written by an earth human? if the answers are in the book, why cant you delineate them? is the book as vague as you are? are you just here to promote a book?

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5 hours ago, killing raven sun said:

so, again, who or what created reality? how is 'miscreation' separate from 'real creation'?

 

what is the 'love-spirit' creating that is 'real'? the universe? who created the 'miscreation'?

 

so you are just regurgitating what you gleaned from a book written by an earth human? if the answers are in the book, why cant you delineate them? is the book as vague as you are? are you just here to promote a book?

The Truth Is Within.

You talk shit to me on the internet...not very impressive

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I NEVER LEFT YOU. I've just been waiting for you to remember/return from your trip into Nothing and Nowhere(illusion). Re-Member. Members of The Body of Christ(Consciousness-Spirit-Life-Creation), come Home(return(reconnect/rejoin) to Awareness=Truth=Reality)Eternal.

 

Let those with eyes and ears see and hear

 

 

 

 

 

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