Michael Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Thanks to Gareth Icke for making us aware of this document. If there were any doubts about the possibility of a forced vaccination, look no further. In the US, under the Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act they already got complete immunity by which any damage can or is done by injecting vaccinations, because it is impossible to proof a willful missconduct. Once vaccinations are forced, you will have no ability to sue medical companies for any damage that is done to you or somebody else. (US) The Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act (PREP Act) authorizes the Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services (Secretary) to issue a declaration (PREP Act declaration) that provides immunity from liability (except for willful misconduct) for claims of loss caused, arising out of, relating to, or resulting from administration or use of countermeasures to diseases, threats and conditions determined by the Secretary to constitute a present, or credible risk of a future public health emergency to entities and individuals involved in the development, manufacture, testing, distribution, administration, and use of such countermeasures. A PREP Act declaration is specifically for the purpose of providing immunity from liability, and is different from, and not dependent on, other emergency declarations. Document about compulsory vaccination: (UK) Source: https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/9253/pdf/?fbclid=IwAR2j3vebj2FsTR6UpHnbWu-9EegNKDPzIQu815OJWQFwQ4pL3rpLxvifdZs Our chief conclusion is that, as and when a vaccine becomes available at scale, the Government should give serious consideration to compulsory immunisation as a means of reducing the impacts of Covid-19. There is an arguable case for the compatibility of compulsory vaccination with human rights law. Vaccine hesitancy A Covid-19 vaccine promises to be the best means to mitigate the impacts of the pandemic on individuals and society. Yet sufficient voluntary uptake of a vaccine cannot be guaranteed.Voluntary vaccine uptake may be limited by ‘vaccine hesitancy’, which the World Health Organization (WHO) describes as ‘the reluctance or refusal to vaccinate despite the availability of vaccines’.Vaccine hesitancy in respect of Covid-19 may arise because of the influence of anti-vaccination movements, the uneven demographic distribution of Covid-19 morbidity and mortality risks,or the mistaken 45belief that Covid-19 immunity has already been acquired. Should a Covid-19 vaccine become available at scale, we cannot expect sufficient voluntary uptake. It is necessary for the Government to consider a policy of compulsory vaccination, with appropriate exceptions.7Such a policy requires an assessment of its impact on human rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Given To Fly Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 dare them. double dare them. triple dare them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentine Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 UKColumn discussed this in Wednesday's edition. https://www.ukcolumn.org/ukcolumn-news/uk-column-news-4th-november-2020 Whole broadcast worth watching as ever but ~45 minute mark for this piece. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mapman Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Well, when all the politicians and the wealthy folk line up to take the same vaccine that will be available to me - not some special one - then I’ll get in line behind them. Of course the reality will be that there will be a less safe, free vaccine made available for the public and a special very safe one made available for the wealthy - just like the expensive individual MMR jabs compared to the free combined one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentine Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 (edited) The discussion should not be about forced vaccines leading us into a futue of seasonal cyclic neverending injections at the whim of governments , lobbyists and corporations but on the actual going down the route of vaccinations in the first place. The long term use of artificial vaccines on a species is unknown and could be extremely deleterious and certainly abnormal, rushing the development of a species beyond it's natural process. And don't tell me we are experts on viruses either on what they are and what their purpose is in nature. We know enough it seems at the moment to potentially do great harm and make a fast buck. Edited November 6, 2020 by serpentine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 l missed this thread and posted in the vaccines survey thread. For sure, it's coming l was sent a PDF with no title by a friend today. l probably missed this on the Mega Thread. l checked if Dr Lisa Forsberg / Dr Isra Black / Dr Thomas Douglas / Dr Jonathan Pugh are all mentioned together anywhere. They are; UK Parliament discussion ; https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/9253/pdf/ Compulsory Con19 Vaxxinations are being lined up for sure. Quote; Written evidence from Dr Lisa Forsberg*, Dr Isra Black**, Dr Thomas Douglas*, Dr Jonathan Pugh* (COV0220) Compulsory vaccination for Covid-19 and human rights law Introduction and summary We are academics working in the areas of philosophy and law, with specialisations in, inter alia, moral and political philosophy, biomedical ethics, health law, and human rights law. Our submission pertains to compulsory Covid-19 vaccination: 1) a requirement on individuals to undergo vaccination as a condition of release from pandemic-related restrictions on liberty, including on movement and association. 2) Our evidence is forward-looking. We expect that a Covid-19 vaccine will become available in sufficient quantity to enable population-wide immunisation. 3) At that stage the Government will need to consider the means of delivery, including whether it is necessary to legislate for compulsory vaccination. We consider the human rights law dimensions of compulsory vaccination by reference to the Human Rights Act 1998 and the European Convention on Human Rights. As such, our submission primarily addresses a live issue the second question in the Committee’s call for evidence: What will the impact of specific measures taken by Government to address the Covid-19 pandemic be on human rights in the UK? Our evidence takes the following form: 1. A discussion of the reasons why compulsory vaccination may need to be considered; 2. An overview of relevant legal provisions; 3. An examination of the human rights law compliance of compulsory vaccination. Our analysis under 3 establishes two parity arguments: a. If Covid-19 ‘lockdown’ measures are compatible with human rights law, then it is arguable that compulsory vaccination is too (lockdown parity argument); b. If compulsory medical treatment under mental health law for personal and public protection purposes is compatible with human rights law, then it is arguable that compulsory vaccination is too (mental health parity argument). https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/9253/pdf/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Basket Case said: l missed this thread and posted in the vaccines survey thread. For sure, it's coming l was sent a PDF with no title by a friend today. l probably missed this on the Mega Thread. l checked if Dr Lisa Forsberg / Dr Isra Black / Dr Thomas Douglas / Dr Jonathan Pugh are all mentioned together anywhere. They are; UK Parliament discussion ; https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/9253/pdf/ Compulsory Con19 Vaxxinations are being lined up for sure. Quote; Written evidence from Dr Lisa Forsberg*, Dr Isra Black**, Dr Thomas Douglas*, Dr Jonathan Pugh* (COV0220) Compulsory vaccination for Covid-19 and human rights law Introduction and summary We are academics working in the areas of philosophy and law, with specialisations in, inter alia, moral and political philosophy, biomedical ethics, health law, and human rights law. Our submission pertains to compulsory Covid-19 vaccination: 1) a requirement on individuals to undergo vaccination as a condition of release from pandemic-related restrictions on liberty, including on movement and association. 2) Our evidence is forward-looking. We expect that a Covid-19 vaccine will become available in sufficient quantity to enable population-wide immunisation. 3) At that stage the Government will need to consider the means of delivery, including whether it is necessary to legislate for compulsory vaccination. We consider the human rights law dimensions of compulsory vaccination by reference to the Human Rights Act 1998 and the European Convention on Human Rights. As such, our submission primarily addresses a live issue the second question in the Committee’s call for evidence: What will the impact of specific measures taken by Government to address the Covid-19 pandemic be on human rights in the UK? Our evidence takes the following form: 1. A discussion of the reasons why compulsory vaccination may need to be considered; 2. An overview of relevant legal provisions; 3. An examination of the human rights law compliance of compulsory vaccination. Our analysis under 3 establishes two parity arguments: a. If Covid-19 ‘lockdown’ measures are compatible with human rights law, then it is arguable that compulsory vaccination is too (lockdown parity argument); b. If compulsory medical treatment under mental health law for personal and public protection purposes is compatible with human rights law, then it is arguable that compulsory vaccination is too (mental health parity argument). https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/9253/pdf/ "In the context of the flexible paradigms of national security and public health, the patient's right to refuse medical intervention is subject to challenge." https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7165755/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossiman Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 How exactly will they force people to take this stuff? I foresee riots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaujangles Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Rossiman said: How exactly will they force people to take this stuff? I foresee riots. Im stocking up on bear spray ! However, I think the end game is to try to get us sectioned under a mental health act for causing a danger to ourselves and others....then they can hold us down put us in a straightjacket and bobs your uncle. Edited November 7, 2020 by Beaujangles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 10 minutes ago, Beaujangles said: Im stocking up on bear spray ! However, I think the end game is to try to get us sectioned under a mental health act for causing a danger to ourselves and others....then they can hold us down put us in a straightjacket and bobs your uncle. If you want to see the model, look no further than Australian legislation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaujangles Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Just now, DarianF said: If you want to see the model, look no further than Australian legislation. Which part? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Just now, Beaujangles said: Which part? State Mental Health acts; Covid emergency amendments; Public health act powers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Beaujangles said: Which part? I could get a bit more specific, if you're interested. Might just have to give me some time to put a few quotes and references together. Prefer not to do it off the top of my head, in case I get my wires crossed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaujangles Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, DarianF said: I could get a bit more specific, if you're interested. Might just have to give me some time to put a few quotes and references together. Prefer not to do it off the top of my head, in case I get my wires crossed. OK... take your time... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Beaujangles said: OK... take your time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 On 11/8/2020 at 9:05 AM, Beaujangles said: OK... take your time... VICTORIA COVID-19 Omnibus (Emergency Measures) and Other Acts Amendment Bill 2020 https://content.legislation.vic.gov.au/sites/default/files/bills/591238bi1.pdf Authorised officers may detain people who they believe may not comply (p. 13). Close contacts of Covid diagnosed people can be detained (p. 13). https://content.legislation.vic.gov.au/sites/default/files/bills/591238exi1.pdf Only an authorised officer (not a court) has to review the period of detention every 24 hours, and can continue the detention if they believe the person is a high risk person (p. 10). Public Health and Wellbeing Act 2008 https://content.legislation.vic.gov.au/sites/default/files/2020-10/08-46aa046 authorised.pdf “A public health order may require the person to whom the public health order applies to comply with any of the following as specified in the order and subject to any specified conditions that the Chief Health Officer considers are appropriate: Undergo an assessment by a specified psychiatrist or specified neurologist; refrain from carrying out certain activities either absolutely or unless specified conditions are complied with; refrain from specified forms of behaviour either absolutely or unless specified conditions are complied with; refrain from visiting a specified place or specified class of place… submit to the supervision of a person nominated by the Chief Health Officer, including… receive specified prophylaxis, including a specified vaccination, within the specified period; undergo specified pharmacological treatment for the infectious disease from a registered medical practitioner; submit to being detained or isolated or detained and isolated as specified” (pp. 114-115). Emergency Powers, Public Health and COVID-19 Emergency Powers | Parliament of Victoria https://www.parliament.vic.gov.au/publications/research-papers/download/36-research-papers/13962-emergency-powers-public-health-and-covid-19 How the Victorian Government’s Emergency Restrictions on COVID-19 (Coronavirus) work https://justiceconnect.org.au/resources/how-the-victorian-governments-emergency-restrictions-on-coronavirus-covid-19-work/ https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-16/victoria-state-of-emergency-disaster-explained-coronavirus/12563680 Mental Health Act 2014 https://content.legislation.vic.gov.au/sites/default/files/2020-02/14-26aa022 authorised.pdf SOUTH AUSTRALIA COVID-19 Emergency Response Act 2020 https://www.legislation.sa.gov.au/LZ/C/A/COVID-19 EMERGENCY RESPONSE ACT 2020/CURRENT/2020.7.AUTH.PDF “An authorised officer may, for the purpose of ensuring compliance with any direction under that section, remove a child from any premises, place, vehicle or vessel to a place of residence of the child or to a hospital or quarantine facility, as the authorised officer thinks fit (and may, in doing so, use such force as is reasonably necessary)” (p. 30). South Australian Public Health Act 2011 https://www.legislation.sa.gov.au/LZ/C/A/SOUTH AUSTRALIAN PUBLIC HEALTH ACT 2011/CURRENT/2011.21.AUTH.PDF You must comply with authorised officers’ extraordinary powers, or receive a $25,000 fine (pp. 25-26). Other Covid restrictions: https://www.sahealth.sa.gov.au/wps/wcm/connect/public+content/sa+health+internet/conditions/infectious+diseases/covid-19/response+and+restrictions Mental Health Act 2009 https://www.legislation.sa.gov.au/LZ/C/A/MENTAL HEALTH ACT 2009/CURRENT/2009.28.AUTH.PDF “An authorised officer may form an opinion about a person under subsection (1)(c) based on the officer's observations of the person's behaviour or appearance or reports about the person's behaviour, appearance or history (which may include reports about matters occurring outside the State). (3) An authorised officer may, subject to this section, exercise the following powers in relation to a person to whom this section applies: (a) the authorised officer may take the person into his or her care and control; (b) the authorised officer may transport the person from place to place; (c) the authorised officer may restrain the person and otherwise use force in relation to the person as reasonably required in the circumstances; (d) the authorised officer may restrain the person by means of the administration of a drug when that is reasonably required in the circumstances; (e) the authorised officer may enter and remain in a place where the authorised officer reasonably suspects the person may be found; (f) the authorised officer may search the person's clothing or possessions and take possession of anything in the person's possession that the person may use to cause harm to himself or herself or others or property” (p. 45). WESTERN AUSTRALIA Public Health Act 2016 https://www.legislation.wa.gov.au/legislation/prod/filestore.nsf/FileURL/mrdoc_43155.pdf/$FILE/Public Health Act 2016 - [00-k0-00].pdf?OpenElement Part 16: Powers of entry, inspection and seizure (pp. 157-160) 106: Enforcement of test orders (pp. 56-57) * includes removal of underwear Emergency Management Amendment (COVID-19 Response) Bill 2020 https://www.parliament.wa.gov.au/Parliament/Bills.nsf/5924018EEA598B994825853B001C0B08/$File/Bill179-1.pdf 70A. Electronic monitoring of persons in quarantine (pp. 4-5); $12,000 fine or 12 months jail if you try remove your COVID electronic tracking device. WA state of emergency continually extended (current): https://www.wa.gov.au/government/document-collections/covid-19-coronavirus-state-of-emergency-declarations Mental Health Act 2014 https://www.legislation.wa.gov.au/legislation/statutes.nsf/main_mrtitle_13534_homepage.html FEDERAL LAW Foreign military and police to be given immunity from all prosecution in Australia, during emergencies: https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/Bills_Search_Results/Result?bId=r6594 https://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/download/legislation/bills/r6594_first-reps/toc_pdf/20117b01.pdf;fileType=application%2Fpdf (pp.8-9) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DarianF Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Anti-vaxxers ‘could be banned from going into work if they refuse Covid jab’ https://metro.co.uk/2020/11/13/covid-vaccine-refusal-could-result-in-ban-from-going-to-work-13587535/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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