What do you think of Nigel Farage's reformed Brexit Party, ''Reform UK''?

[shadowmoon]

On 11/9/2020 at 9:15 PM, Grumpy Owl said:

 

I used to like him too.

 

But I realise now he's just another 'agitator' just as much as Tommy Robinson is.

 

As soon as the EU referendum result was delivered, Farage was off clinging onto Donald Trump's coat-tails, along with the likes of Raheem Kassam (another former failed UKIP leadership contender and former aide to Farage).

 

Another puppet, pushing someone else's agenda. But he's seen as 'acceptable', as opposed to Tommy Robinson.

 

If you dig hard enough you'll find they're on the same side.

 

Farage will try and lead people off on some merry dance, but mark my words, just watch where he tries and leads people.

 

 

 

 

He's a fake, NIck Griffin has him sussed out, whenever a popular group starts looking powerful up pops farage again.

[serpentine]

47 minutes ago, shadowmoon said:

 

 

He's a fake, NIck Griffin has him sussed out, whenever a popular group starts looking powerful up pops farage again.

 

 

In a world without mass surveillance that's a weak argument even on it's own.

 

Farage has been on the political scene for decades so he's certainly not just "popping" up.

 

The manifesto might include a popular mandate to bring about a quick general election!

 

 

[Ziggy Sawdust]

14 minutes ago, serpentine said:

 

 

In a world without mass surveillance that's a weak argument even on it's own.

 

Farage has been on the political scene for decades so he's certainly not just "popping" up.

 

The manifesto might include a popular mandate to bring about a quick general election!

 

 

 

General election??

They are nothing  more than an organised  illusion for the masses that makes them think they live in a democracy.....ALL politicians are puppets of the 1%......if voting changed anything it wouldn't be allowed.

Please wake up my friend.

[Golden Retriever]

4 minutes ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

 

General election??

They are nothing  more than an organised  illusion for the masses that makes them think they live in a democracy.....ALL politicians are puppets of the 1%......if voting changed anything it wouldn't be allowed.

Please wake up my friend.

 

How many times does this have to be said Ziggy?

 

Maybe the younger generation think there is hope in new parties, but believe me at this moment in time they are

ARE ALL CONTROLLED, including the Zionist Farage.

 

 

 

[serpentine]

19 minutes ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

 

General election??

They are nothing  more than an organised  illusion for the masses that makes them think they live in a democracy.....ALL politicians are puppets of the 1%......if voting changed anything it wouldn't be allowed.

Please wake up my friend.

 

Well aware of the history of this country and the deviousness of people.

 

The point is to get a quantifiable response that can be seen.

Edited November 11, 2020 by serpentine

[serpentine]

One thousand posts and I blew it with a double post.

Edited November 11, 2020 by serpentine

[shadowmoon]

59 minutes ago, serpentine said:

 

 

In a world without mass surveillance that's a weak argument even on it's own.

 

Farage has been on the political scene for decades so he's certainly not just "popping" up.

 

The manifesto might include a popular mandate to bring about a quick general election!

 

 

 

 

Its in this video around 8:30. onwards

 

Edited November 11, 2020 by shadowmoon

[magu]

The mans a cunt....so for 8 months and during the initial lockdown and the removal of rights and liberties he paddled with the rubber dinghy rapids squad then just as the country announces lockdown 2.0 he fucks off to the states ......and still the sheeple in the cooments sections of various ragtops sit there applauding him and stating that he has their vote....not realising that they wont be voting in anything anytime soon,if ever again....he's got a an army of blue rinsed piss tits and sticks old people sitting getting moist in their incontinence pants at the thought of him appearing on tv so they can believe in something ...to them he's the new messiah....to others,those who are awake he's about as welcome as a wasp in a pair of those sodden incontinence pants

[serpentine]

6 minutes ago, magu said:

The mans a cunt....so for 8 months and during the initial lockdown and the removal of rights and liberties he paddled with the rubber dinghy rapids squad then just as the country announces lockdown 2.0 he fucks off to the states ......and still the sheeple in the cooments sections of various ragtops sit there applauding him and stating that he has their vote....not realising that they wont be voting in anything anytime soon,if ever again....he's got a an army of blue rinsed piss tits and sticks old people sitting getting moist in their incontinence pants at the thought of him appearing on tv so they can believe in something ...to them he's the new messiah....to others,those who are awake he's about as welcome as a wasp in a pair of those sodden incontinence pants

 

Is  the Malloy, Malone dies and the Unnamable trilogy bedtime reading for you?

[magu]

5 minutes ago, serpentine said:

 

Is  the Malloy, Malone dies and the Unnamable trilogy bedtime reading for you?

Not being an educated man i haven't got a scooby doo what you are alluding to...my reading is limited to the backs of sauce bottles at meal times (i have this really strange hangup...i cannot eat without reading something...anything...hence sauce bottles)...although if given a choice my bedtime reading would include anything published by the paladin press in the past....but that could be construed as seditionary material so i limit myself to imagefap ;-)

[magu]

I just googled the trilogy you mention....nobody but nobody would read Samuel Becketts work voluntarily...only under duress and in a learning environment....which considering i left school before they had added the letter S to the gce's that were available and being so mentally challenged by the whole school environment  they only saw fit to award me the sub par cse's,which were in effect certificates that confirmed you could put your trousers on the correct way,could use a knife and fork without facial injury and knew that if you buckled down and worked hard you could one day become adept enough to be a binman..... subsequently literature to me is something that comes in the form of contra indication leaflets with prescription meds (always exceed the stated dose children) charge sheets and the denomonations of paper (polymer) money.....my ignorance of the classics is bliss

[Ziggy Sawdust]

27 minutes ago, magu said:

Not being an educated man i haven't got a scooby doo what you are alluding to...my reading is limited to the backs of sauce bottles at meal times (i have this really strange hangup...i cannot eat without reading something...anything...hence sauce bottles)...although if given a choice my bedtime reading would include anything published by the paladin press in the past....but that could be construed as seditionary material so i limit myself to imagefap ;-)

 

Out of likes.

[Ziggy Sawdust]

2 minutes ago, magu said:

I just googled the trilogy you mention....nobody but nobody would read Samuel Becketts work voluntarily...only under duress and in a learning environment....which considering i left school before they had added the letter S to the gce's that were available and being so mentally challenged by the whole school environment  they only saw fit to award me the sub par cse's,which were in effect certificates that confirmed you could put your trousers on the correct way,could use a knife and fork without facial injury and knew that if you buckled down and worked hard you could one day become adept enough to be a binman..... subsequently literature to me is something that comes in the form of contra indication leaflets with prescription meds (always exceed the stated dose children) charge sheets and the denomonations of paper (polymer) money.....my ignorance of the classics is bliss

 

[serpentine]

18 hours ago, magu said:

I just googled the trilogy you mention....nobody but nobody would read Samuel Becketts work voluntarily...only under duress and in a learning environment....which considering i left school before they had added the letter S to the gce's that were available and being so mentally challenged by the whole school environment  they only saw fit to award me the sub par cse's,which were in effect certificates that confirmed you could put your trousers on the correct way,could use a knife and fork without facial injury and knew that if you buckled down and worked hard you could one day become adept enough to be a binman..... subsequently literature to me is something that comes in the form of contra indication leaflets with prescription meds (always exceed the stated dose children) charge sheets and the denomonations of paper (polymer) money.....my ignorance of the classics is bliss

 

 

Some might argue the step between reading sauce bottles and Beckett is not a big one.

 

As far as Farage goes he seemed a bit sanguine of the current prospects but that is a consequence of the government spinning all the plates furiously towards the end of the year and an end to Brexit talks. This was probably all carefully timetabled and planned in the 6 months dithering after Cameron resigned to coincide with the US election debacle and the covid calendar.

 

The msm were badgering him about Covid being a hoax in todays online papers but a reform manifesto may start to fully clarify when the government actually makes some coherent and final announcements on Brexit talks in the next few weeks papering over it's iniquities with a temporary release from lockdown to soften the blow and further confuse the masses.

Edited November 12, 2020 by serpentine

[serpentine]

No reply?

 

Well we could start with long  overdue reform of the National Anthem.

 

Current work in progress at lyrics to be sung at the last night of the proms to the  tune of this popular ballad  of course.

 

Fish last night, and fish the night before,
Going to be eating fish tonight,
Like we never eaten fish before.
When we eaten our fish, we're as happy as we can be,
And you can't stop our British fleet from fishing in our Sea

 

They're trawling them, they're trawling them.
A whole plate of cod for each one of us
Thank your lucky stars there are no more of us,
Cause the last cod in the sea would soon be all alone.

 

(Repeat verses replacing cod with names of other suitable fish ad infinitum.)

 

Edited November 13, 2020 by serpentine

[Athenry04]

He's a twat, he's a politician (barely).

[serpentine]

On 11/14/2020 at 10:28 PM, Athenry04 said:

He's a twat, he's a politician (barely).

 

That doesn't move the discussion on but think about getting  a pet parrot for Christmas if it helps.

 

 

[serpentine]

Sobre as a judge and suited up.

 

 

 

 

Several thousand candidates being sifted through for next year's elections and the idea of refunding fees to students for the shambles mooted.

 

 

 

 

Edited November 28, 2020 by serpentine

[Steph]

He's a bloody immigrant!

 

(half french)

 

The very sovereignty of the United Kingdom was swept away by the new EU powerhouse (Quarter of a century isn't new though) in Brussels, democracy had no say and Nigel Farage is on the telly (now pwned by the EU) playing the stereotype that opposition to the EU is about racism and xenophobia?

 

What about all those people concerned about sovereignty and democracy who didn't get on the telly and weren't impressed with words like sovereignty and democracy when they didn't mean the thing that was so important for society's functioning. An employee taking orders from a boss isn't their own boss, nor is a  state compelled by law to obey a higher power sovereign.

 

They can call it sovereignty using a fresh meaning to the word sovereignty but this fresh meaning is not the original meaning which has lost its value as the betrayers go into full self-contradiction mode explaining Scotland and England surrendering their sovereignties to Britain in 1707.

 

They can call it democracy but the people never even elected John Major who signed the Maastricht Treaty as a prime minister who took power by a coup inside the Tory Party and the media misrepresented the treaty to the public as another trade deal with the common market when infact it was a deathknell in the democracy of the UK.

 

People who stood in support of democracy and sovereignty were simply banned from being on TV or given 'tough interviews' if they were too important to ignore. This was across the whole media trying to fence away ethnic minorities and anti-racists from concerned sovereigntists and democrats by misinforming everyone that the only reason people opposed the EU was because they were monsters.

 

This was very successful high treason across the whole media which was legally bound to basic political neutrality between the democratic parties beneath the sovereignty going full propaganda mode in support of a foreign power outside "Her Majesty's dominion of the UK" overruling the UK parliament.

 

This is a high criminal offence to the extent sovereignty and democracy are immutably illusions to those who aren't deceiving themselves and the only ways back to the respect for these things are the deception of the young (leaving God out of account) or the prosecution and public shaming of those who have betrayed the 50% who dont vote anymore and the 25% who vote in favour of UK sovereignty and democracy.

 

There is also the option of doing away with sovereignty and democracy as important principals in a society but the media is fundamentally fucked for all time either way barring the successful deception of the young (leaving God out of account). You think child abuse has to do with eroticism? You're being manipulated.

 

Now, Nigel Farage. Managed to get on the telly as the surveillance state was being built and human rights were being laughed at as civil liberty groups helped promote new measures which violated traditional ancient liberties even msintained in the inustrial era. He's some sort of clown like figure. It would have been nice to see some James Goldsmiths but this is a full pelt political coup over our national sovereignty by every branch of the media in whom the whole nation had once placed all their trust now making democracy in its real sense look like a Tory little Englander bigot xenophobe policy.

 

It was nice to see that there was some voice on the telly even if it was so out of touch with the concerns the media wouldn't touch but when it came the referendum, I found the minimalisation of a 4% victory by Farage to be distasteful. Someone at the forefront should have been highlighting the 50% who dont vote anymore, especially when those looking for statistics will only see 25% who are still on the electoral role but dont vote. 50% are eligible to re-register and vote but whats the point if an unelected prime minidter can walk away scotfree having committed treason?

 

Now he's on about immigrants and the footage in some cases are visibly contrived. He's part of the group trying to turn Britain into the EUs prison colony. His anti-immigration videos on the coastline are not about refugees who want to come and enjoy hearing platitudes about human rights and civil liberties nut promoting ways to prevent people getting out. This is a post-sovereignty era until the Sir John Msjor et al family legacies have fallen to the crown. As for squaddies giving it their all for King and Country, well thats a bunch of traitors lying through their teeth. Do it for the pay check and don't risk your balls for all their lies.

 

 

[EnigmaticWorld]

People were getting too redpilled after seeing how the BBC treated Griffin, so TPTB rolled out Farage as the acceptable face of nationalism to lull people back to sleep.

[Steph]

Nationalism. If the sovereign country I was born was practically owned by the BNP as the MSM likes to depict it, how come Fluella Benjamin was on playchool and Trevor McDonut was so respected that they could only pun his surname. No one really noticed they woz niggas! They were just prominent British personalities. Oh they happen to black. Pre-EU britain was as opposed to BNP as post EU britain is opposed to Britain First.

 

Have you ever walked into a room and felt like everything that used to be there had been replaced by an exact replica. Thats what Britain feels like today. Fake democracy, fake media and theres even a fake BNP while the real nazis manufacture all the fakery they can muster accusing the liberals as being the cause of liberties being swept away. Its all lies.

 

[EnigmaticWorld]

Democracy only works well in a homogeneous society. Politicians shouldn't be able to mess with demographics to gain votes. We were never asked.

[EnigmaticWorld]

Funny thing is, as I have mentioned on here before, I was a bleeding heart liberal that also voted leave because of sovereignty, and because I didn't want so much power in the hands of so few. Then I saw the way libs started attacking white people for voting leave and it pushed me to the right. Working around cosmopolitans in the hip hop industry probably opened my eyes a lot too. Most minorities I worked with were okay, but the self-hating whites became too much and it became clear that my country would be doomed if they ever got in power.

 

[Grumpy Owl]

43 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

People were getting too redpilled after seeing how the BBC treated Griffin, so TPTB rolled out Farage as the acceptable face of nationalism to lull people back to sleep.

 

I'd say Farage is more the acceptable face of 'anti-establishment sentiment'.

 

Whatever he has done in the past, whether with UKIP, The Brexit Party or now his new Reform party, has only ultimately ended up benefitting the 'Establishment', ie splitting the vote keeping the Labour/Conservative coalition in power.

 

He's just another 'useful idiot'.

 

 

[Steph]

I cant see the point in a democracy which has a place for messing around with demographics. I don't see that kind of thing as anything to do with democracy and since the thing I mean by democracy is meaningless to people who see demographic manipulation as part of what they call democracy as much as the msm consider their 'service' of half truths and lies to voters as important to what they call democracy, I can only reiterate my conclusion that democracy as I mean it would not be recognisable in the current world we live in. Working men's right and the suffragettes are meaningless. Democracy as I mean it was one method by which a society could be free from slavery and servitude. Anything short of such democracy is a form of slavery or servitude for those compelled to obey others in disregard of their own will. A fake democracy is greater subjugation than a monarchy since at least the subjugated have the liberty to know they are subjugated. Monarchy is thus the best course of action for a society which has no liberty, which is sadly our own society. Democracy is dead in this country. "We the people" have no power, except to delude one another that the common people have any real say. The liars are on pedastools, and the just are cast into dark corners where the whispered truth resonates more loudly than a television with volume up at 100%.

 

Slavery and servitude ARE abolished on my plane and the law is immutable. May hades destroy the owners of slaves on entry. No blood sucking vampires are welcome.