rideforever Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 I saw that the LGBTQ had a big rally in Asia yesterday ... I wonder which NGO is behind that. Abortion is not really about women's rights. What the hell are rights anyway? It's really just me culture, it's about the personality becoming detached from reality and inventing all sorts of garbage for itself that it doesn't really want or need. Abortion is about whether society is a killing society that hates life, that sees no difference with eating your own shit or cutting your genitals off .... and parenting. No, the two societies cannot live together. Because one worships hatred and the darkness, and pisses on everything ... and the other serves life and is sincere. I don't see a good future for human beings, it is so easy to get them to destroy each other and themselves. I don't know the meaning, you could say something has gone wrong ... and mankind has turned against life ... that we are simply evil. Or perhaps we are just much much lower down the food chain than our stupid egos imagine. The size of our brazen ego reflects only it's disconnection from reality. Anyway, I have peace from the Indian teachers who abandon everything. I find that very easy to understand these days. In the "world of vomit", the insanity never ends. Soon bodies will simply be fed into mincing machines and fed to the next de-generation. Even the small animals have more sense and dignity. And shame for how they live. Human beings spend their preparing ever more horror for each other to make life which is already out of balance, even worse. Anyway maybe we are simply meant to wake up out of this world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 This is a LOT of people not agreeing with their government.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredo79 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 The government has banned the abortion in the case of deformed fetus. Who will take care about a severely damaged human being destinated to do a shitty life? Do all those anti-abortion take care of the persons that they want in this world? The protests are right. A religion cannot ruin lives. The same government imposed the police state for Covid! And I think religions and Covidiotism are faces of the same medal. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotallrightjack Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, alfredo79 said: The government has banned the abortion in the case of deformed fetus. Who will take care about a severely damaged human being destinated to do a shitty life? Do all those anti-abortion take care of the persons that they want in this world? The protests are right. A religion cannot ruin lives. The same government imposed the police state for Covid! And I think religions and Covidiotism are faces of the same medal. I agree with you Alfredo. They are protesting about women being forced to give birth to severely deformed "babies" that would either be born dead, die a few hours or days later or be so handicapped that they'll be suffering for the few years they do survive. To force such a being to be born to suffer is cruel, and also very cruel and traumatic for the woman and the father of the baby. This is not women asking to be promiscuous and get rid of a couple of healthy almost full term babies every year! And to be honest very very few women use abortion for this reason as it is not a pleasant procedure to go through and leads to infertility if its repeated several times. Edited November 1, 2020 by itsnotallrightjack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotallrightjack Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, Basket Case said: This is a LOT of people not agreeing with their government.. Good on them. The state and Church are wrong on this matter and need to stop lording it over people. Edited November 1, 2020 by itsnotallrightjack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defbalt Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 What they're really protesting for is the freedom to go on fornicating like rabbits. The fact that deformed babies are being invoked as a reason to justify their evil desire to abort unwanted outcomes of said fornication just highlights their depravity. Abortion is murder, end of story. And sooner or later (looking more and more like sooner), the blood of the countless millions of little ones murdered by their own mothers will be avenged by God... In case anyone hadn't yet noticed, the world is spiralling into ever worsening crises... that's what happens when you embrace Sodom and the murder of babies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamlinn Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 39 minutes ago, Defbalt said: What they're really protesting for is the freedom to go on fornicating like rabbits. The fact that deformed babies are being invoked as a reason to justify their evil desire to abort unwanted outcomes of said fornication just highlights their depravity. Abortion is murder, end of story. And sooner or later (looking more and more like sooner), the blood of the countless millions of little ones murdered by their own mothers will be avenged by God... In case anyone hadn't yet noticed, the world is spiralling into ever worsening crises... that's what happens when you embrace Sodom and the murder of babies. I never could understand people that think a baby is the punishment God gives a woman for the sin of fornication. Why then are men not punished by God as well? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredo79 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Defbalt said: What they're really protesting for is the freedom to go on fornicating like rabbits. The fact that deformed babies are being invoked as a reason to justify their evil desire to abort unwanted outcomes of said fornication just highlights their depravity. Abortion is murder, end of story. And sooner or later (looking more and more like sooner), the blood of the countless millions of little ones murdered by their own mothers will be avenged by God... In case anyone hadn't yet noticed, the world is spiralling into ever worsening crises... that's what happens when you embrace Sodom and the murder of babies. A deformed fetus can be originated also by a sexual intercourse within a regular married couple. But then, who are you to decide how must the sexual life of a person be, admitting that in case of abortion we have to understand when the life starts effectively. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White_Raven Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 (edited) OMG this is ridiculus, the police together with polish soldiers are protecting a catholic church located in Warsaw city center. Edited November 2, 2020 by White_Raven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 53 minutes ago, White_Raven said: OMG this is ridiculus, the police together with polish soldiers are protecting a catholic church located in Warsaw city center. They need to make their mind up. They've been arresting Priests for holding services during lockdowns recently... Quote; Fr. Michał Woźnicki arrested on 19th October 2020, he was arrested in May 2020 for saying Mass . On the 19th Oct he told Police – Sorry, this place hosts Jesus Christ, true God and true man. Please kneel down, said the priest. – The Lord won’t give me orders. I would ask you and each participant for an ID card – replied one of the policemen. “There is a rosary service right now,” said the priest. “Your face is veiled, I’m afraid that intruders or villains have invaded me,” he added, turning to the officer. Parishioners pleaded with police not to arrest alter server also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chud Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Quote In July 2017 US President Donald Trump in his second foreign travel visited Poland.[…] President Trump thanked the Polish people and President Duda for the warm welcome he received in Warsaw. He said: "Our strong alliance with Poland and NATO remains critical to deterring conflict and ensuring that war between great powers never again ravages Europe, and that the world will be a safer and better place. America is committed to maintaining peace and security in Central and Eastern Europe"[…] In 2018, Poland proposed that the United States open a permanent military base within its country. The Polish government would finance around $2 Billion of the cost of hosting American forces, if the proposal was accepted by the United States.[…] On 24 June 2020, Trump said at a press conference with Duda that the United States plans to move some U.S. troops from Germany to Poland. Trump said that "Poland is one of the few countries that are fulfilling their obligations under NATO — in particular, their monetary obligations — and they asked us if we would send some additional troops. ... I think [putting more US troops in Poland] sends a very strong signal to Russia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poland–United_States_relations#"Polish_death_camps" Quote Secretary of State Mike Pompeo met with Poland’s minister of defense in Warsaw Saturday to ink a new military pact with the strategically crucial Eastern European country. The deal will allow up to 5,500 members of the US military to be based in Poland — an increase over the 4,500 stationed there today. That number could grow up to 20,000 troops in the face of a threat, said Polish Defense Minister Mariusz Blaszczak, the BBC reported. President Trump hailed the agreement as a “historic” strengthening of NATO against ongoing threats from Russia. “The agreement will enhance our military cooperation and increase the United States military presence in Poland to further strengthen NATO deterrence, bolster European security, and help ensure democracy, freedom, and sovereignty,” Trump said in a White House statement. Some of the 11,900 troops that that Trump yanked from Germany last month will head east under the new deal. Trump ordered a steep reduction in the 36,000 US troops stationed there amid an ongoing dispute over NATO fees. “Germany is delinquent,” Trump said in July. https://nypost.com/2020/08/15/us-beefs-up-military-presence-in-poland-with-new-defense-deal/ Not off-topic but may explain whatever unusual happening in a remotely 'occupied' country most probably to divert attention... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, chud said: Not off-topic but may explain whatever unusual happening in a remotely 'occupied' country most probably to divert attention... ls off topic IMO - Abortion amendments are a real attempt by the unpopular extreme right wing government to align with the church - protest are organic AFAIK. BC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chud Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 please don't delete it, I'll not start a thread just for it... : ) It's allegedly over the 'invasion' of Poland by Germany that WWII started, strange that… not the first time the US would have taken over 'Nazi' plans… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chud Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 OK I got it (I'm slow)... by 'unusual' I meant the government's decision and not the protests... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotallrightjack Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 11/1/2020 at 6:36 PM, Defbalt said: What they're really protesting for is the freedom to go on fornicating like rabbits. The fact that deformed babies are being invoked as a reason to justify their evil desire to abort unwanted outcomes of said fornication just highlights their depravity. Abortion is murder, end of story. And sooner or later (looking more and more like sooner), the blood of the countless millions of little ones murdered by their own mothers will be avenged by God... In case anyone hadn't yet noticed, the world is spiralling into ever worsening crises... that's what happens when you embrace Sodom and the murder of babies. No they are not. And what's wrong with 2 consenting adults going to bed together if they being sensible with contraception/safe sex and are free agents? We are not in the 19th century. What 2 free adults do in bed together is their business and nobody else's business as long as abuse/rape is not going on. Women who have deformed fetuses are often married women, so this is not an issue of "fornication." Some women develop health issues which means a pregnancy could end in a miscarriage or affect their health to even a degree as to cause their death. They might even have conceived from a brutal rape and only be 16 years old. These circumstances are why abortion was made legal and rightly so. Women do not use abortion as a "contraceptive" because it is not a pleasant procedure to go through and done a few times leads to health issues and infertility. Easy for men to state this archaic moralistic clap trap when it's not them who get raped, or have to carry a deformed fetus and give birth to a dead or severely handicapped baby that dies after a few hours or lives for a few agonising years, suffering greatly- all causing trauma to a woman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotallrightjack Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 11/1/2020 at 9:16 PM, alfredo79 said: A deformed fetus can be originated also by a sexual intercourse within a regular married couple. But then, who are you to decide how must the sexual life of a person be, admitting that in case of abortion we have to understand when the life starts effectively. Exactly- many times these deformed fetuses are conceived by older married women, who actually planned their last child and have a couple of healthy children already, so it's not like they expected to have this heartbreaking thing happen. Or they are first time mother, who had been wanting to get married and start a family but they didn't meet the right man until they were in their 40s. The decision to abort a fetus that would be born severely deformed and be dead after being born or so severely handicapped ( like those poor babies with no brains) and only survive for a few months, screaming almost non stop and in pain is not taken lightly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotallrightjack Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 11/1/2020 at 7:17 PM, Tamlinn said: I never could understand people that think a baby is the punishment God gives a woman for the sin of fornication. Why then are men not punished by God as well? Me neither. I'm an atheist- this is all fabricated misogynistic clap trap. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemuri Kyoshiro Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 11/2/2020 at 4:42 PM, Basket Case said: They need to make their mind up. They've been arresting Priests for holding services during lockdowns recently... They must be hankering for the good old days under Nazi and Soviet occupation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firebird Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 (edited) Poland is 'too' conservative and not globalist enough. I expect big things to happen there in the coming years. Soros will be licking his fingers and smell opportunity in Poland. Across the world the youth will form 'antifa' groups and help usher in the NWO. Edited November 5, 2020 by Firebird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredo79 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 4 hours ago, Firebird said: Poland is 'too' conservative and not globalist enough. I expect big things to happen there in the coming years. Soros will be licking his fingers and smell opportunity in Poland. Across the world the youth will form 'antifa' groups and help usher in the NWO. Maybe, but if this government, beyond imposing the sanitary tiranny, imposes even a moronic iper-regulation according to a liberticide view, that was the first globalist attempt furthermore, It's logic that people with the straight back, enrage and act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forsaken Bankzy Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Let's be honest with ourselves. Most abortions happen because two individuals were irresponsible both in their actions and thought processes, this far outweighs abortions happening because an individual was brutally raped or because of deformed fetus; but somehow these become the core argument when defending abortions in a over sexualized society, where even young fragile minds cannot escape its imagery. We need to draw a line of right and wrong and whilst liberalism tries to find common grounds for both, God has already given us what is right from wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 26 minutes ago, Forsaken Bankzy said: Let's be honest with ourselves Then you need to read and find out exactly what the change of Polish Law is and then comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forsaken Bankzy Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 21 hours ago, Basket Case said: Then you need to read and find out exactly what the change of Polish Law is and then comment. I was focused on whether abortions is right or wrong. Polish laws cannot give man the wisdom on whether it's right or wong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 On 10/30/2020 at 10:22 AM, itsnotallrightjack said: No they do not want to "slay unborn children" but have the right to abort severely deformed fetuses that would die a few hours after birth. There is a big difference between these: 14 minutes ago, Forsaken Bankzy said: I was focused on whether abortions is right or wrong. Polish laws cannot give man the wisdom on whether it's right or wong. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forsaken Bankzy Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 On 11/4/2020 at 2:12 AM, itsnotallrightjack said: What they're really protesting for is the freedom to go on fornicating like rabbits. The fact that deformed babies are being invoked as a reason to justify their evil desire to abort unwanted outcomes ^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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