Guest Gone Fishing... Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 "You shouldn't have pissed us off." Poland blocked, crowd in Warsaw headed for TK [UPDATED] + 7k Traffic blocks all over Poland, crowds in the streets. The Women's Strike enters the next phase of resistance to the ban on abortion. OKO.press reporters are located in the streets of Warsaw, Białystok and Mrągowo. We'll keep you posted on what's going on throughout the evening. The text is updated Do you like OKO? Are you reading OKO? Support us so we can keep working. I SUPPORT >> 21:52, Warsaw. Part of the crowd moved to ul. Nowogrodzka, to the PiS headquarters , where the party is to be held. Anton Ambroziak reports that a large group of people gathered in front of the building: "People are sitting at stops, on road signs, on cars". Klementyna Suchanow speaks: “They thought it would pass, that it would be quiet in a moment. Unfortunately, it is not quiet. " The activist resembles an ultimatum - either the government will withdraw from plans to tighten the anti-abortion law by Wednesday, or "we will have to start imagining Poland without PiS". “On Tuesday, subversive actions, on Wednesday all of Poland stops, and on Friday everyone comes to Warsaw. Now let's play some music. " Techno resounds on Nowogrodzka Street. Hear horns and vuvuzelas. "There is oppression, and there is resistance," chant the protesters. One of the participants: “People seem to understand that it concerns them directly. Even if we don't win anything for ourselves, maybe we'll inspire someone? In 2016, our protests inspired Korean women to take to the streets en masse and to ease the abortion law. " In the meantime, the Prime Minister's order "on the use of soldiers of the Military Police to provide assistance to the police" was published in the Journal of Laws. It is to apply from Wednesday 28 October. The ruling authorities issued a similar document in the spring, when the gendarmerie was called in to help the policemen to keep an eye on epidemic restrictions. Some commentators fear that this time it could be used to suppress protests. “Of course we are afraid of COVID, but we want to continue to protest. We do not feel discouraged by the news about the gendarmes, ”they told Maciek Piasecki at ul. Nowogrodzka, Justyna and Marta. Michał Szczerba, MP from KO, is also on the spot. He announces that he will submit a motion to punish Robert Bąkiewicz. The head of the All-Polish Youth has been showing up in public without a mask for several days. "The police are not reacting" - regrets Szczerba. 20.42, Warsaw. On pl. Three Crosses has escalated. Flares and toilet paper were thrown at the nationalists gathered on the church steps from the crowd. Some of them jumped out from behind the police cordon and started catching people from the crowd. Police sprayed the gas. She then pushed the protesters away from the church. photo by Anton Ambroziak, OKO.press The nationalists throw bottles and stones at people from there. The protest responds the same. One of the demonstrators was arrested by the police. Protesters surround a police car, chanting, "We're not going without her," and "Let her go." They sit in the street to prevent the van from passing. Urszula Zielińska, an MP, appeared and is negotiating the release of the detainee. Anton Ambroziak: “One boy who was passing by accidentally got hit in the head with a bottle, it was a ricochet because a scuffle started. Several people have been hit hard with gas, they are being treated by the ambulance ”. The detained girl was taken to the police station at ul. Wilcza. The policemen explain that they recorded her throwing a firecracker at the policemen. Warsaw blockades are reported for OKO.press by Dominika Sitnicka, Anton Ambroziak and Hanna Szukalska. Due to problems with the Internet connection, it was initially impossible to report live on Facebook. "Three minutes. That was what the protesters in Warsaw at the De Gaulle roundabout needed to stop the traffic, ”says Ambroziak. Equally at At 4:00 p.m. a group of people ran onto the pedestrian crossing with banners, others blocked the tram tracks with bicycles. People lay down on the asphalt. There are also cars and buses adorned with women's strike posters, which support protesters with their horns. The crowd quickly thickens, familiar slogans appear and the drum beat. Red paint on the asphalt has the inscription "Get out". Topless participants jump on cars and chant "Fuck PiS", waving the flags of the Women's Strike. Smoke candles appear - gray and pink. People are dancing. photo by Hanna Szukalska, OKO.press photo by Hanna Szukalska, OKO.press "Because we're fucking fed up," replies Anton Ambroziak to one of the protesters, when asked why she is taking part in the blockade. “We are fed up with the fact that the Church, the episcopate, the government, and all forms of authority enter into our private affairs. We say a categorical "no," we have said for a long time, and now we are firm. Get the fuck out of our lives, take care of yourself. " Aleje Jerozolimskie in both directions are blocked - from de Gaulle roundabout, through Dmowski roundabout, to the Central Railway Station. There is also the Poniatowski Bridge. Hanna Szukalska: “The drivers are not nervous about the protest. The horns are heard from cars with stuck posters. Very positive reception. " Not only Warsaw is protesting. Locks from 16:00 are held all over Poland. Maciek Piasecki is at a protest in Białystok, Mikołaj Maluchnik in Mrągowo. Car, bicycle and pedestrian Anton Ambroziak from Rondo Dmowskiego in Warsaw: “The family - parents and a child are standing at the bus stop. First they applaud. Their son, about 13 years old, encourages them to join. At first they are reluctant, but in the end they say: "Ok, let's go with them". There is the ONZ roundabout and ul. Świętokrzyska, as well as al. John Paul II. Anton moves towards the Radosława roundabout, on the border of the Center and Żoliborz. Our reporters and reporters ask participants what they think about the criticism of Sunday's churches. “I understand that some people do not agree that we enter into religious rites, they treat it as their very private matter. But we were not the first to enter our life with shoes. We respond to their actions ”- they explain. photo by Hanna Szukalska, OKO.press When asked about the purpose of the protest, they answer without hesitation: “Abortion on demand. Safe, legal, free. Always. From now. Forever. End of compromise. " People move through the Center, walk along the streets and on the tracks. Some of them sit on the road. Many protest slogans written with chalk and spray on the asphalt. Psychologist, protesting on the second day: "Having a child who is about to die or is already dead is associated with mourning, it can take up to a year. Nobody talks about the mental health of these women or how to help women. I do not agree to that as a woman and as a specialist. " Our reporters pay attention to the mobility of the protests. Dominika Sitnicka: “We have already walked many kilometers since Thursday, in Warsaw itself. Pandemically, it's a pretty good idea, it's safer this way. Mokotów, Żoliborz, Prague, Wola More reports of blocked districts. There is the Łazienkowski Bridge, and the Unii Lubelskiej Square. There is Rondo Radosława and pl. Wilsona, Wisłostrada, Rondo Wolnego Tibetu in Warsaw's Wola district. Protest at the Tibet Roundabout in Warsaw's Wola district. Entire intersection blocked, all cars stationary. @PolsatNewsPL pic.twitter.com/XqlKX802s8 - Grzegorz Łaguna (@GrzegorzLaguna) October 26, 2020 The intersection at the Vilnius Railway Station, Praga Północ. Anton Ambroziak: "The driver of the stopped 519 bus, smiling from ear to ear, gives the protesters a thumbs up." A group of motorcyclists drive through the de Gaulle roundabout amidst the sound of horns. They are also participants in the blockade, they came from Washington Roundabout. One of the protesters: “The right to choose is extremely important. I have been going to manifes for years, I did not expect this law to be tightened. I hope people will have the energy to continue the protests in the coming days. ” Anton Ambroziak, who is cruising around the city on a bicycle: "I pass two groups of several hundred who are heading from the Center to Kaczyński's house." Reporters report that on ul. Puławska, a driver tried to run over one of the protesters, there were riots. Similar incidents took place in Muranów, Bielany and at Dworzec Wileński. They are injured. The blockades stopped traffic at the Lotnik's monument, on ul. Modlińska, Białołęka. One of the activists on Facebook reports that there were clashes between protesters and a group of nationalists at Rondo Wiatraczna (Praga-Południe). People from the de Gaulle roundabout go to the Constitutional Tribunal. "Kaja Godek, get the fuck out" - chants the crowd. The taxi drivers join the protesters. They also block the passage, horns are heard everywhere. The ONR police in pl. Three Crosses Brutal incidents took place in pl. Three Crosses. A group of nationalists sprayed gas and battered activist Klementyna Suchanow, who was painting the sidewalk. Nationalists took refuge on the steps of the church, one of them has a Celtic cross on a chimney-cup, a symbol commonly associated with the fascist movement. Among them is Robert Bąkiewicz, the head of the All-Polish Youth - with a rosary in his hand and without a mask. They are separated from the protesting nationalists by a double police cordon. photo by Hanna Szukalska, OKO.press photo by Dominika Sitnicka, OKO.press "God is not with you!", "All of Poland is ashamed of you!", "Shame" and "We remember Białystok" - chant the participants of the blockade. The latter is a reference to the Equality March in Białystok, during which fans and nationalists attacked rainbow demonstrators. Nationalists sing religious songs and "Rota". Dominika Sitnicka: “These are not the typical scenes of today's protests. Most of them were blockades of peace. It was only when the nationalists showed up that it escalated. John Lennon's "Imagine" and Abby's "Dancing Queen" play over the protesters. Meanwhile, on the Łazienkowska Route, a group of men tried to tow one of the cars blocking the passage on their own. They strapped the car with a towing belt, poured glue or something flammable over it, tried to pull it to the side. Unsuccessfully. Poznań, Łódź, Białystok, Mrągowo Huge crowds gathered once again on pl. Wolności in Poznań, the protesters a moment before At 8.00 p.m. they went for a walk: to the seat of the local PiS and to the Curia. Earlier, demonstrators blocked the city center, gathering e.g. at the Kaponiera roundabout. Once again, thousands of people on the streets in Białystok. Among others, square Andrzej Piotr Lussy. Our reporter, Maciek Piasecki, was there. “The protesters were supported by the sound of the driver's horns. In the crowd you could see mainly young women, but there were also men of all ages, seniors, families with children, ”Piasecki writes. “I was afraid to go to the Sunday demonstration after my purse was ripped out during the Equality March. However, at the demonstration I saw many fans yesterday, ”one of the demonstrators told him. Many of our interlocutors admitted that they had not participated in street protests before, some of them had come from nearby towns to participate in the blockade. The demonstrators were surprised by the modest number of police, but there was no aggression. Only the priest passing the procession, as he headed for the market square, knocked ostentatiously on the head. The main arteries of the city were also blocked in Łódź, and then the crowd moved towards the Cathedral. Crowds also gathered in Garwolin, Kraków, Gdańsk, Zakopane and dozens of other cities . In Gdańsk - as reported by Gazeta Wyborcza - the priest used the loudspeakers to say the prayer "Our Father" in the intention of "freeing the protesting women from Satan". About 500 people protested in Mrągowo with a population of 20,000. They blocked the Kresowiaków roundabout. Katarzyna Piekarska, a deputy from the Left, was there. "The organizer is a 15-year-old boy, he did not want to talk to us, he was afraid of problems at school," reports Mikołaj Maluchnik. People of all ages took part in the protest. They went around the roundabout, walking on the pavement, blocking pedestrian crossings every now and then. Public transport bus drivers joined them and greeted them with horns. Maluchnik: “The policemen, who were very numerous, were protecting the protesters. Everything took place in a good atmosphere. When one woman was honking the roundabout, the officers only instructed her. The current students and teachers greeted each other, someone was promised a plus for their presence at the blockade, someone even a five ”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Tightening the abortion law in Poland. Berlin and London joined the protests © Sputnik. Alexey Vitvitsky POLAND 15:14 October 24, 2020(updated 08:35 10/25/2020)Short link Topics: Controversy over the ruling of the Constitutional Tribunal on abortion ( 29 ) 16415 Subscribe us on This is the third day of protests that engulfed Polish cities after the decision of the Constitutional Tribunal, which ruled that an abortion performed due to serious fetal defects or the probability of severe disability is inconsistent with the Constitution. The first protests started the day before yesterday immediately after the decision of the Constitutional Tribunal. Demonstrations and protests took place in the streets of Warsaw, including the building of the Tribunal, the seat of PiS and the house of Jarosław Kaczyński. There were even clashes with the police in front of the PiS president's house, and officials used tear gas. The wave of negative comments comes from, among others from opposition politicians who strongly criticize the verdict, from artists and public figures, but also from ordinary citizens who express their opposition not only by taking part in demonstrations, but also on social media using hashtags: #WyrokNaKobiety # PiekłoKobiet #PogrzebPrawKobiet. Yesterday there were protests in major cities of the country: Kraków, Wrocław, Lublin, Szczecin, Katowice and many others. Police reported that demonstrators used pyrotechnics against the officers and threw stones and paint at them, but that the protests were nevertheless calmer than on the first day. Controversy over the ruling of the Constitutional Tribunal on abortion On October 22, the Constitutional Court ruled on abortion due to a fetal defect. The judgment stated that the provisions which allowed for abortion due to the confirmed serious damage to the fetus or an incurable disease were inconsistent with the Constitution. Play Video © RUPTLY Warsaw: evening demonstrations after the Constitutional Tribunal's ruling on abortion The rapporteur for the motion of PiS, Konfederacja and Kukiz'15 politicians, signed by 119 deputies, was Judge Justyn Piskorski, and the chairman of the adjudication panel was Julia Przyłębska. The application challenged the provision that allowed termination of pregnancy after it had been established, based on prenatal tests or medical evidence, that there was a high probability that the child would be severely handicapped or terminally ill and would not be able to survive, and the provision that allowed termination of pregnancy until the fetus's ability to live independently outside the woman's body. According to the applicants, the above premises should be considered as eugenic, therefore they asked the Constitutional Tribunal to state that the provision was inconsistent with the Constitution because it violates the right to life, dignity and is discriminatory. The decision will entail changes in the so-called the 1993 abortion compromise. new message 10:52 pm Berlin has joined the protesting Poles today As part of solidarity with the protesters against the Constitutional Tribunal's ruling on abortion, the inhabitants of Berlin took to the streets. 21:42 Protesters at the house of Jarosław Kaczyński in Warsaw A small group of protesters has gathered in front of Jarosław Kaczyński's house today, according to reports appearing on the web, the protesters are written down by the police and receive fines. 21:28 Churches targeted by protesters? Churches are targeting the protesters against the Constitutional Tribunal's ruling on abortion 21:23 October 24, 2020 Today, protests against the Constitutional Tribunal's ruling on abortion have concentrated around many Polish churches and cathedrals. On the facade of the Church of St. Matthew the Apostle and Evangelist, inscriptions related to the protest appeared in Warsaw. READ MORE 20:57 Londoners show solidarity with the protesters in Poland A group of people gathered in front of the Polish embassy in London and, as a solidarity with the protesters in Poland, they brought banners and candles to the embassy. 20:28 Deputy Minister Janusz Kowalski: Enough of this bullshit Deputy Minister of State Assets Janusz Kowalski wrote on Twitter that "images of leftist aggressors should be published on the Internet," and anyone who raises his hand against a policeman should be punished. "Enough of this bullshit! The Polish Police guard the safety of Poles. Anyone who raises a hand against a policeman should be severely punished. Anyone who offends a policeman should be punished. With no exception! And the images of leftist aggressors should be published on the Internet, ”wrote Janusz Kowalski. 20:19 There were scuffles with the police in Katowice In Katowice, protesters demonstrated in front of the cathedral, there were scuffles with the police. 20:12 The protesters in Wrocław approached the Bishop's Palace There are reports on the Internet that protesters in Wrocław have approached the Bishop's Palace and hang hangers on the fence as a sign of protest against the CT ruling on abortion. 19:32 Krakow: protesters go to the curia headquarters Protesters in Krakow are heading towards the Krakow curia, shouting, among others "This is war" 19:29 Should participants of the demonstration fear penalties? Will there be penalties for participants in protests against the ruling of the Constitutional Tribunal? 19:12 October 24, 2020 The Lodz police announced that they filed 43 motions to the court for fining participants in protests against the Constitutional Tribunal's ruling on the prohibition of abortion. READ MORE 19:07 Lublin: protest in front of the cathedral where the mass is held In Lublin, the demonstrators gathered in front of the cathedral where the mass is taking place. In the crowd you can see banners with the slogans "Women's Hell", "Enough", "My body my choice". 18:32 Protests are taking place in many Polish cities Protests against the Constitutional Tribunal's ruling on abortion are held in many cities and towns throughout Poland. Internet users share their reports and photos from the demonstration online, marking them with the hashtag #StrajkKobiet. 18:01 London residents will support Polish protesters? There is information on the Internet that a march will be held in London in the near future to support the strikers against the Constitutional Tribunal's ruling on the abortion of Polish women. 17:56 Foreign media reports on protests in Poland The media abroad covers the third day of the protests in Poland extensively. The American station CNN points out in its report that the police used pepper spray against the protesters. 17:32 The head of the presidential cabinet criticizes the protests: This is not a way for dialogue The head of the President's cabinet, Krzysztof Szczerski, said in an interview on the Polish Radio Three that the protests after the announcement of the Constitutional Tribunal's decision on abortion are not a way to discuss "matters of life and death". Protests after the judgment of the Constitutional Tribunal on abortion: "This debate is aimed at the aggressive, street criterion of war" 17:27 October 24, 2020 The head of the President's cabinet, Krzysztof Szczerski, said in an interview on the Polish Radio Three that the protests after the announcement of the Constitutional Tribunal's decision on abortion are not a way to discuss "matters of life and death". READ MORE 17:14 Protesters in Warsaw destroyed the Ronald Regan monument The demonstrators destroyed the Ronald Regan monument in Warsaw, which stands near the Seym. The monument has sprayed inscriptions PRO ABO and eight stars, symbolizing the slogan critical of PiS. The capital city hall informed that the monument is currently being washed. 4:41 PM Warsaw PiS headquarters surrounded by a police cordon A cordon of police cars and officers has been set up at the headquarters of the Law and Justice party at Nowogrodzka Street in Warsaw. 4:31 PM A hot weekend in the capital: two protests in one day Not only is the march of opponents of the Constitutional Tribunal's ruling on abortion going on in the capital, but also opponents of the restrictions introduced in connection with the ongoing coronavirus epidemic protest. The police announced that force would be used in the event of attacks on officers. This is what happened, the police used stun grenades and pepper spray. Anti-mask protesters in Warsaw demand that the current restrictions be relaxed so that people can resume their businesses. They also appeal for the restoration of full-time education in schools. Stun grenades and tear gas at the anti-masquerade protest in Warsaw - video 16:25 October 24, 2020 Opponents of the restrictions introduced in connection with the ongoing coronavirus epidemic are protesting today in Warsaw. The police announced that force would be used in the event of attacks on officers. READ MORE 4:20 pm Crowds in Białystok are lighting candles in front of the PiS headquarters 16:14 The president of the PSL appeals to the prime minister: It's time to stop this madness The president of the Polish People's Party, Władysław Kosiniak-Kamysz, appealed to stop what is happening in Poland as soon as possible. The politician proposed three steps: first of all, the publication of the Constitutional Tribunal's decision in the Journal of Laws should be suspended, and after the pandemic is over, a referendum should be held on this matter, and the Constitution should be amended in line with its result. I am calling on the government to come to their senses, it is not too late and there are several things that can be done that will normalize the situation, stop this ideological war and focus on fighting the coronavirus - Kosiniak-Kamysz told journalists in Krakow. © AP Photo / Czarek Sokolowski 4:11 pm Gdańsk: I will give birth to you a Lewak! There are also crowds at the Polish seaside. Women hold banners with slogans, among others: I will give birth to you a leftist, Why are your beliefs taking away my rights? 4:10 pm Not only the capital. Łódź is also protesting 4:03 PM Protests all over Poland. Where did it start? On October 22, the Constitutional Tribunal ruled on abortion due to a fetal defect. The judgment stated that the provisions which allowed for abortion due to the confirmed serious damage to the fetus or an incurable disease were inconsistent with the Constitution. The application challenged the provision that allowed termination of pregnancy after it had been established, based on prenatal tests or medical evidence, that there was a high probability that the child would be severely handicapped or terminally ill and would not be able to survive, and the provision that allowed termination of pregnancy until the fetus's ability to live independently outside the woman's body. According to the applicants, the above premises should be considered as eugenic, therefore they asked the Constitutional Tribunal to state that the provision was inconsistent with the Constitution because it violates the right to life, dignity and is discriminatory. The decision will entail changes in the so-called the 1993 abortion compromise. In the opinion of the opponents of this decision, the ruling basically means a complete ban on abortion, because according to the data of the Ministry of Health, in 2019, 1110 legal abortions were performed in Poland, of which 1074 were performed due to irreversible impairment or incurable disease of the fetus. 15:59 Candles at the PiS headquarters As in the previous days of the protests, demonstrators put candles in front of the parliamentary offices of PiS politicians. They explain that it is a symbolic funeral of Polish women's rights. There are also inscriptions on the buildings: You have blood on your hands, I'm afraid to be born in this country. The photo in front of his office in Białystok was published on Twitter by MP Adam Andruszkiewicz, adding that the case was reported to the police. 15:50 Trzaskowski from Nowogrodzka: PiS made women a hell Rafał Trzaskowski appeared on the Warsaw march. The president of the capital said that he was in solidarity with all Polish women across the country. He added that there is no consent to cynicism to deal with matters with the hands of the constitutional pseudo-tribunal in the middle of an epidemic, because the government does not have the courage. At the same time, he called for observance of the restrictions, for spacing and wearing masks. Yesterday, Rafał Trzaskowski informed via a video that appeared on his Facebook that at the city's request, rescuers and city observers take part in protests in the capital, who record the protests on video. Police cannot violate citizens' rights. There are many indications that yesterday's reaction to the demonstration in Żoliborz was excessively brutal - force was used, no medical assistance was provided. That is why I ordered observers of the Capital City of Warsaw to be present at today's public assembly and to record its course on video. I will not allow civil rights violations in the capital. At our request, there are also paramedics on site - wrote Trzaskowski on Facebook. A wave of protests across Poland after the CT ruling on abortion: "This is war!" - photo, video 19:31 October 23, 2020 After yesterday's decision of the Constitutional Tribunal, crowds appeared on the streets of Polish cities to protest the ruling that termination of pregnancy due to serious damage to the fetus or high probability of permanent disability is inconsistent with the Constitution. READ MORE 15:42 Barbara Nowacka: You bastards bastards! Barbara Nowacka, MP from the Civic Coalition said that no one had aroused such rage among women in a long time. You beat the bastards. You messed up with the girls - said Nowacka outraged. At the same time, she appealed to doctors not to abandon women in difficulty, she also asked city officials to take care of women in need, and to keep municipal hospitals taking care of them. She announced that there would be draft abortion bills and a motion for a referendum on this matter. On Twitter, she posted a short video of the march, announcing that the crowd was heading to the CT headquarters to shout out what she thought about the ruling. Tremble PiS! You bent! - said Nowacka. 15:16 Outraged by the decision of the Constitutional Tribunal on abortion, they do not give up This is the third day when Poles outraged by the decision of the Tribunal have taken to the streets to protest. Crowds reappeared in Warsaw, Kraków, Wrocław, Poznań and Szczecin. The mayor of the capital, Rafał Trzaskowski, MP Barbara Nowacka and many artists appeared at the Warsaw protest. We do not fold umbrellas, we will not live in hell, we will not allow 13 people from the Tribunal and Jarosław Kaczyński to decide about the lives of 37 million - says one of the slogans. Participants in the demonstration describe it as a spontaneous walk around the city. The protesters were approached by director Małgorzata Szumowska, who emphasized that these are dark days for Polish women. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 "Row on the pavement!", "PiS is to undo it all". This is how Poland protests after the judgment of the Constitutional Tribunal [PHOTOS] kn, lulu26/10/2020 19:47 "Poland is a woman", "We go for the law and justice", "Je *** PiS", "Government on the pavement!", "This is a drama" - these are some of the slogans that were heard on Monday in large and small cities across Poland. At 4 p.m. the main streets and roundabouts were blocked. The protesters were supported, among others, by taxi drivers and medical students and doctors. In Warsaw, the protest ended after 11 p.m. on Nowogrodzka Street, in front of the PiS headquarters. Protest in Poznań (Kaponiera roundabout) Photo. Lukasz Cynalewski / Agencja Gazeta Protests from Jasło to Warsaw. Poles protest after the judgment of the Constitutional Tribunal The protests are a reaction to the decision of the Constitutional Tribunal, which ruled that an abortion performed due to severe fetal defects was unconstitutional. On Monday, they were organized in large and small cities - from Warsaw, through Ząbkowice Śląskie, to Jasło and Zakopane. On the banners you could read: "It's us, angry Polish women", "Your courts and chapels, our fists and wombs", "I will not be your martyr", "Wall behind women, riding with spiders", "This is war and women's golgota "," I was already nice, now I'm pissed. " In the photo: Protest in Poznań, Kaponiera roundabout ADVERTISEMENT AD Protest in Warsaw Fot. Sławomir Kamiński / Agencja Gazeta Taxi drivers and doctors support the protests The protesters include doctors and medical students - those from the Medical University of Warsaw at 5 p.m. took part in the blockade of the ONZ Roundabout in Warsaw. "As future doctors and doctors, we must protect the health of our future patients. Solidarity with women is our duty" - they informed. The demonstrations also featured banners with the slogans: "Doctors always with women". In the photo: Blockade Al. Jerozolimskie in Warsaw Warsaw, Puławska Street at Narbutta Photo. Sławomir Kamiński / Agencja Gazeta "PiS is to undo it" - The protests are supposed to make PiS admit that the statements of Mrs. Przyłębska are not a source of law. PiS is to undo it all and we really do not care how it happens, how PiS does it, so that the Constitutional Tribunal is real again, that the Supreme Court works as it should, so that no PiS disguise will play in lifting immunity from judges because they can only open their windows - said the leader of the Women's Strike, Marta Lempart, in an interview with TVN24. Below are some photos from the protests in Warsaw: Photo Sławomir Kamiński / Agencja Gazeta Photo Sławomir Kamiński / Agencja Gazeta Photo Czarek Sokolowski / AP Photo Photo Czarek Sokolowski / AP Photo Photo Czarek Sokolowski / AP Photo Photo Jedrzej Nowicki / Agencja Gazeta Photo Jedrzej Nowicki / Agencja Gazeta Photo Jedrzej Nowicki / Agencja Gazeta There was a lot of anxiety at Trzech Krzyży Square, where there was a clash with the nationalists. Police used gas >>> In turn, as reported by Kielce's "Gazeta Wyborcza" , in front of a church in that city "someone shot a slingshot at a young woman protesting against the judgment of the Constitutional Tribunal". The 28-year-old was arrested. ADVERTISEMENT AD ADVERTISEMENT AD Blockade of streets in Krakow due to the tightening of the abortion law Photo. Jakub Porzycki / Agencja Gazeta "It was the biggest blockade in the history of Krakow" In Kraków, as many as 18,000 people took part in the protests. people. "It was the biggest blockade in the history of Krakow: the entire city was stopped," describes "Wyborcza Krakow". Several hundred vehicles were taken in the car blockade, and there was a pedestrian blockade at the same time. Below photos: Photo Jakub Porzycki / Agencja Gazeta Photo Jakub Porzycki / Agencja Gazeta Photo Jakub Porzycki / Agencja Gazeta Photo Jakub Porzycki / Agencja Gazeta Protests also in smaller towns Protesters also gathered in smaller towns - incl. in Ząbkowice Śląskie, Milanówek, Jasło or Kartuzy in Kashubia. The inhabitants of Zakopane, Nowy Dwór Gdański, Puck and Chojnice also took to the streets. The photos below show the protest in Kartuzy: Photo Bartosz Ba ??ka / Agencja Gazeta Photo Ba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAwakened Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Did you have to post the whole article? Anyways I think abortion should only be legal in certain extreme circumstances. Abortion is murder and the argument of "its my body" is wrong its not YOUR body its the Child who you're aborting. The fetus isn't your body. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 26 minutes ago, TheAwakened said: Did you have to post the whole article? Yes. They're only available in Polish so I translated them and posted.. BC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chud Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 OK now it's way too much reacting over such a concern and I got why police enforcement during protests looked staged... we're afraid of the COVID but we want to protest... what's to be hold and remembered in there ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 27 minutes ago, TheAwakened said: Anyways I think abortion should only be legal in certain extreme circumstances. Abortion is murder and the argument of "its my body" is wrong its not YOUR body its the Child who you're aborting. The fetus isn't your body. Regardless of your opinion it's News that Poland has just changed it's Laws back and now prohibit abortion. As you can plainly see, it hasn't been received by the citizens very well.. BC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Humungus Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 32 minutes ago, Basket Case said: Regardless of your opinion it's News that Poland has just changed it's Laws back and now prohibit abortion. As you can plainly see, it hasn't been received by the citizens very well.. BC it hasn't been received well by the Soros paid protesters me thinks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chud Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 and it's maybe why foreign police forces or 'extras' get hired to handle such 'protesters', because cops are no actors but sworn workers and these protests I bet weren't officially recognized or allowed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 30 minutes ago, Lord Humungus said: it hasn't been received well by the Soros paid protesters me thinks. lf it was organised and paid for protests, then why is this News being suppressed ? This is not News in England. lt's real and spontaneous protests by people who don't think the State or Church has dominion over their bodies.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 1 hour ago, chud said: OK now it's way too much reacting over such a concern and I got why police enforcement during protests looked staged... we're afraid of the COVID but we want to protest... what's to be hold and remembered in there ? 9 minutes ago, chud said: and it's maybe why foreign police forces or 'extras' get hired to handle such 'protesters', because cops are no actors but sworn workers and these protests I bet weren't officially recognized or allowed... l'm not getting what you're saying. Can you say this in a different way please ? BC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Humungus Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, Basket Case said: lf it was organised and paid for protests, then why is this News being suppressed ? This is not News in England. lt's real and spontaneous protests by people who don't think the State or Church has dominion over their bodies.. The Media and the BBC are not known to be Pro-Life, they are more likely to be Pro-Choice so that's not the reason if it's suppressed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chud Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, Basket Case said: l'm not getting what you're saying. Can you say this in a different way please ? BC read bryan's post... https://forum.davidicke.com/index.php?/topic/12294-mandatory-masks-in-poland-request-for-uk-from-us/&tab=comments#comment-182557 see how quickly the most 'credible' hoax may get debunked when everyone adds one's 2 cents ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, Lord Humungus said: The Media and the BBC are not known to be Pro-Life, they are more likely to be Pro-Choice so that's not the reason if it's suppressed The BBC are not shy of reporting on the Abortion Laws / Rights debate.. What they ARE shy of is showing people getting together peacefully in large numbers and PROTESTING (Yellow Vests in France - Palestinians outside BBC HQ etc...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Humungus Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 24 minutes ago, Basket Case said: The bare breasts remind me of the Femen Protesters in Russia. I think there's nothing organic about this protest. I know a staged color revolution when I see one. Gene Sharp methods at play here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 11 minutes ago, Lord Humungus said: The bare breasts remind me of the Femen Protesters in Russia. I think there's nothing organic about this protest. I know a staged color revolution when I see one. Gene Sharp methods at play here Would you like to quote some sources for your claims ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 24 minutes ago, Lord Humungus said: The Media and the BBC are not known to be Pro-Life, they are more likely to be Pro-Choice so that's not the reason if it's suppressed 15 minutes ago, Basket Case said: The BBC are not shy of reporting on the Abortion Laws / Rights debate.. What they ARE shy of is showing people getting together peacefully in large numbers and PROTESTING (Yellow Vests in France - Palestinians outside BBC HQ etc...) Are you going to respond to this ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Humungus Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Basket Case said: Would you like to quote some sources for your claims ? It's just my personal observation for now. But I'm sure I will stumble on something soon. I will shoot my Polish friends a message. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Humungus Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Basket Case said: Are you going to respond to this ? I'm not in the UK and I don't watch the BBC regularly (or any TV). But I know western media pushed the Femen protests awhile ago. So if they're not pushing this story I don't think the pro-abortion theme is the reason. Just common sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chud Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 it's diversion from real protests over COVID restrictions... I recall protesters in Poland claimed we are afraid of COVID... it's coined propaganda... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Lord Humungus said: I'm not in the UK and I don't watch the BBC regularly (or any TV). But I know western media pushed the Femen protests awhile ago. So if they're not pushing this story I don't think the pro-abortion theme is the reason. Just common sense. The Polish State is claiming power over Polish women's bodies, so they protest, right across Poland. Poland is a predominately Catholic country. Women fought for years for the right to chose. Now that's been taken away again. This affects all women, not 'just' feminists...that's why there's a big reaction / protest. The present Polish government is not popular.. These protests are not being shown in ANY country....especially Poland, just like the Yellow Vest movement was suppressed and covered up / ignored. That these events are not in any MM shows it is not a bought and paid for protest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, chud said: it's diversion from real protests over COVID restrictions... I recall protesters in Poland claimed we are afraid of COVID... it's coined propaganda... Yes, some are afraid because they are bombarded 24/7 with MM lies... lf this was a diversion why isn't this being promoted and shown on MAINSTREAM MEDIA......anywhere ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Humungus Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Basket Case said: The Polish State is claiming power over Polish women's bodies, so they protest, right across Poland. Poland is a predominately Catholic country. Women fought for years for the right to chose. Now that's been taken away again. This affects all women, not 'just' feminists...that's why there's a big reaction / protest. The present Polish government is not popular.. These protests are not being shown in ANY country....especially Poland, just like the Yellow Vest movement was suppressed and covered up / ignored. That these events are not in any MM shows it is not a bought and paid for protest. That this events are not in the media shows nothing, there can be many reasons for that. I already explained that. But its obvious you have a dog in this fight and you're pushing a narrative. I have many Polish friends and coworkers. They're Catholics and they're Pro-Life. We will see how this evolves in the next few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michi713 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Agreed they’re giving the protest class a nice distraction from the new lockdown rules. Keep them busy. https://www.thefirstnews.com/article/poland-imposes-tighter-restrictions-does-not-rule-out-full-lockdown-17001 There will be options for women who still want to kill their unborn children: traveling across borders and there’s the famous abortion ship that takes advantage of maritime laws. They often anchor off the coast of Ireland. https://www.womenonwaves.org/en/page/493/abortion-on-our-ship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chud Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 because it's more intended locally to the Polish of whom country has deepened its allegiance and strengthened its ties to the USA... to the rest of Europe these protests are a mere 'anecdote'... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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