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10 hours ago, Maedros said:

There is more than enough evidence to prove the existence of giants; a simple internet search can provide volumes of factual information. Adena and Hopewell,etc

 

That is a far cry, the giants were human, albeit extremely large but human nonetheless; how big is 'giant' in any case, cause there are skeletons and mounds of people that were 15 to 20ft tall, that's a giant. Giants, were the offspring of the 'sons of God', often referred to as angels; they first dwelt in the holy city (Zion) on mount Hermon with others of the children of Adam and Eve; these 200, left the city and their lifestyle to marry the descendants of Cain ('daughters of men) and out of this union were born the nephilim, a giant race; they were wicked and murderous because they were raised so to be by their fallen fathers who were wicked, also called the sons of Perdition because like Cain, they made a pact with Satan and committed the unpardonable sin.  

I am aware of the stories but the facts are a bit elusive. I agree that large humans have existed but what does giant mean? 7-8 foot tall maybe?

 

What is this unpardonable sin? killing somebody? Didn't David send a man to the front line, knowing he would be killed, so he could take his wife? he might as well as slain the guy himself but let somebody else do the dirty deed.

 

I have seen some pics of these supposed giant skeletons and it looks as if the proportion are wrong. The legs seem very long compared to the rest of the body.

 

I would be happy to accept such things did exist as described if there were solid proof of them.

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10 hours ago, oz93666 said:

Bellow is a channeling of Goliath, it goes into great detail  ...

 

The Elohim (Annunaki)  came down in their space craft ... 

The sons of God saw the beautiful women and took any they wanted as their wives. ... of the Elohim saw the daughters of the adam that they were good (beautiful); ... In Genesis 4:17-24

 

The 4 meter tall Annunaki  mated with human women .... some of the offspring were giants . these could not be carried to full term by the women ... caesarian section at about 7 months ... The Nephilim Giant would be brought up to work with the Annunaki in controlling the humans ...

 

  

 

Thats the thing that people seem to overlook, the actual mating. Even if it were done by artificial means the feotus would probably be too big for the woman to bear and never make it. Why would a giant be attracted to a woman if they were 4 times smaller, etc? note the sexual language too, the giants are always described as male.

 

Recently I have been reading 'The Origins  of Satan' and it mentions that the Hebrews may well have used mythological style stories to describe their foreign rulers in such a way as to avoid persecution. Greeks and Romans were happy to allocated divine status to kings, so if they described forgien kings as Gods and their sons as sons of God, then it could be that these people were taking the most beautiful women of the Hebrews for themselves. The Hebrews might has seen such offspring as corrupt, being the children of outsiders with totally different moral standards.

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14 hours ago, MarpatV2 said:

it could be that these people were taking the most beautiful women of the Hebrews for themselves. The Hebrews might has seen such offspring as corrupt, being the children of outsiders with totally different moral standards.

 

sounds plausible....or we could be talking about beings from the otherworld interacting with people during magical ritual that creates epigenetic changes in the initiates

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On 1/11/2021 at 1:50 PM, MarpatV2 said:

Yet they were constantly defeated by various human armies, their temple wiped off the earth and their sacred relics lost.

 

The fact is that the ancient Hebrews were basically canaanites and their religion evolved from that of Canaan.


Exactly. The winners write the history books. 

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16 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

sounds plausible....or we could be talking about beings from the otherworld interacting with people during magical ritual that creates epigenetic changes in the initiates

What would be the most likely though? an invader stealing your women or an alien?

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2 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

Who said anything about an alien? I was talking about inter-dimensional entities

Same basic idea though. What would be the likelihood, an interdimensional being or a human, written in a code to avoid persecution? if this were a bet my money would be on the latter, especially as its known such docs did conceal powerful rulers behind coded references, like Caeser Nero being the beast 666.

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2 hours ago, MarpatV2 said:

Same basic idea though. What would be the likelihood, an interdimensional being or a human, written in a code to avoid persecution?

 

I'd say that it's very likely that the bible is talking about inter-dimensional entities and also different states of consciousness

 

For example many of the revelation moments occur in the desert for example jesus undergoes some sort of trial in the desert in which he encounters the devil

 

Moses speaks to a burning bush which could be a symbol for his own enflamed pineal gland

 

Adam and Eve eat something that completely transforms their perceptions of reality

 

joesph has a technicoloured aura indicating a different state of consciousness

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11 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

I'd say that it's very likely that the bible is talking about inter-dimensional entities and also different states of consciousness

 

For example many of the revelation moments occur in the desert for example jesus undergoes some sort of trial in the desert in which he encounters the devil

 

Moses speaks to a burning bush which could be a symbol for his own enflamed pineal gland

 

Adam and Eve eat something that completely transforms their perceptions of reality

 

joesph has a technicoloured aura indicating a different state of consciousness

Or the burning bush could be a symbol of his own energy system being 'inflamed'

 

Yes, many examples do indicate altered awareness but thats getting off the point. Also look at what knowledge these watchers brought with them, metalworking and makeup. Why would an interdimensional being want to teach women how to look good? are they some sort of beauty therapist? again I would say its a reference to people from a foreign culture introducing the best looking native women to image enhancement, which was probably the norm in their own culture. All the things these watchers bring are associated with foreign cultures that the Hebrews try to separate themselves from.

 

When you look at Irish mythology it can be seen as the conflict between that original inhabitants and those that came from Spain, from who the current Irish people are descended. Same with Greek mythology, the Titans and Olympians could be rival cultures clashing but concealed by a level of storytelling.

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33 minutes ago, MarpatV2 said:

Or the burning bush could be a symbol of his own energy system being 'inflamed'

 

same thing

 

33 minutes ago, MarpatV2 said:

Yes, many examples do indicate altered awareness but thats getting off the point. Also look at what knowledge these watchers brought with them, metalworking and makeup. Why would an interdimensional being want to teach women how to look good? are they some sort of beauty therapist? again I would say its a reference to people from a foreign culture introducing the best looking native women to image enhancement, which was probably the norm in their own culture. All the things these watchers bring are associated with foreign cultures that the Hebrews try to separate themselves from.

 

An epigenetic shift could alter how people perceive themselves and others. The watchers are inter-dimensional beings namely 'fallen angels'

 

33 minutes ago, MarpatV2 said:

When you look at Irish mythology it can be seen as the conflict between that original inhabitants and those that came from Spain, from who the current Irish people are descended.

 

Well there is a celtic pocket of people in the basque region and in northern france

 

33 minutes ago, MarpatV2 said:

Same with Greek mythology, the Titans and Olympians could be rival cultures clashing but concealed by a level of storytelling.

 

Certainly that argument is made by robert graves

 

But with the watchers I believe we are speaking about non human influences and certainly ancient art is not representing humans

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On 1/12/2021 at 1:15 PM, MarpatV2 said:

What is this unpardonable sin? killing somebody? Didn't David send a man to the front line, knowing he would be killed, so he could take his wife? he might as well as slain the guy himself but let somebody else do the dirty deed.

 

I would be happy to accept such things did exist as described if there were solid proof of them.

The unpardonable sin can only be committed by those who have absolute faith that God lives and that Jesus is the Christ and who received this witness through the Spirit, lived their lives in obedience patterned after righteousness and received the blessings of such a life - and then by the power of satan turn from this course and knowingly commit a serious sin like murder or adultery or turn from the way and deny the existence of God; the 200 committed this sin and are the Sons of Perdition. Hell is a place only for these kinds of people, those who still need proof and lack total faith and belief, don't have to worry, they'll never commit this sin. 

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On 1/14/2021 at 1:44 PM, MarpatV2 said:

Also look at what knowledge these watchers brought with them, metalworking and makeup. Why would an interdimensional being want to teach women how to look good? are they some sort of beauty therapist? again I would say its a reference to people from a foreign culture introducing the best looking native women to image enhancement, which was probably the norm in their own culture. All the things these watchers bring are associated with foreign cultures that the Hebrews try to separate themselves from.

The answer to your question is found in Second Book of Adam & Eve:

 

AFTER Cain had gone down to the land of dark soil, and his children had multiplied therein, there was one of them, whose name was Genun, son of Lamech the blind who slew Cain. 2 But as to this Genun, Satan came into him in his childhood; and he made sundry trumpets and horns, and string instruments, cymbals and psalteries, and lyres and harps, and flutes; and he played on them at all times and at every hour. 3 And when he played on them, Satan came into them, so that from among them were heard beautiful and sweet sounds, that ravished the heart. 4 Then he gathered companies upon companies to play on them; and when they played, it pleased well the children of Cain, who inflamed themselves with sin among themselves, and burnt as with fire; while Satan inflamed their hearts, one with another, and increased lust among them. 5 Satan also taught Genun to bring strong drink out of corn; and this Genun used to bring together companies upon companies in drink-houses; and brought into their hands all manner of fruits and flowers; and they drank together. 6 Thus did this Genun multiply sin exceedingly; he also acted with pride, and taught the children of Cain to commit all manner of the grossest wickedness, which they knew not; and put them up to manifold doings which they knew not before. 7 Then Satan, when he saw that they yielded to Genun and hearkened to him in every thing he told them, rejoiced greatly, increased Genun's understanding until he took iron and with it made weapons of war. 8 Then when they were drunk, hatred and murder increased among them; one man used violence against another to teach him evil taking his children and defiling them before him. 9 And when men saw they were overcome, and saw others that were not overpowered, those who were beaten came to Genun, took refuge with him, and he made them his confederates.

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42 minutes ago, Maedros said:

The answer to your question is found in Second Book of Adam & Eve:

 

AFTER Cain had gone down to the land of dark soil, and his children had multiplied therein, there was one of them, whose name was Genun, son of Lamech the blind who slew Cain. 2 But as to this Genun, Satan came into him in his childhood; and he made sundry trumpets and horns, and string instruments, cymbals and psalteries, and lyres and harps, and flutes; and he played on them at all times and at every hour. 3 And when he played on them, Satan came into them, so that from among them were heard beautiful and sweet sounds, that ravished the heart. 4 Then he gathered companies upon companies to play on them; and when they played, it pleased well the children of Cain, who inflamed themselves with sin among themselves, and burnt as with fire; while Satan inflamed their hearts, one with another, and increased lust among them. 5 Satan also taught Genun to bring strong drink out of corn; and this Genun used to bring together companies upon companies in drink-houses; and brought into their hands all manner of fruits and flowers; and they drank together. 6 Thus did this Genun multiply sin exceedingly; he also acted with pride, and taught the children of Cain to commit all manner of the grossest wickedness, which they knew not; and put them up to manifold doings which they knew not before. 7 Then Satan, when he saw that they yielded to Genun and hearkened to him in every thing he told them, rejoiced greatly, increased Genun's understanding until he took iron and with it made weapons of war. 8 Then when they were drunk, hatred and murder increased among them; one man used violence against another to teach him evil taking his children and defiling them before him. 9 And when men saw they were overcome, and saw others that were not overpowered, those who were beaten came to Genun, took refuge with him, and he made them his confederates.

But that isnt in the bible is it, so was probably written quite late to fill in gaps in the standard narrative

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46 minutes ago, Maedros said:

The unpardonable sin can only be committed by those who have absolute faith that God lives and that Jesus is the Christ and who received this witness through the Spirit, lived their lives in obedience patterned after righteousness and received the blessings of such a life - and then by the power of satan turn from this course and knowingly commit a serious sin like murder or adultery or turn from the way and deny the existence of God; the 200 committed this sin and are the Sons of Perdition. Hell is a place only for these kinds of people, those who still need proof and lack total faith and belief, don't have to worry, they'll never commit this sin. 

What is this place, a congregation for christians?

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9 minutes ago, MarpatV2 said:

What is this place, a congregation for christians?

It's a place for those who like satan, were untrusted with spiritual knowledge and had authority therein but rebelled, just like he did; so those who go there and dwell with him are like him even in the way they get there. 

 

34 Concerning whom I have said there is no forgiveness in this world nor in the world to come—

35 Having denied the Holy Spirit after having received it, and having denied the Only Begotten Son of the Father, having crucified him unto themselves and put him to an open shame.

36 These are they who shall go away into the lake of fire and brimstone, with the devil and his angels—

37 And the only ones on whom the second death shall have any power;

38 Yea, verily, the only ones who shall not be redeemed in the due time of the Lord, after the sufferings of his wrath.

44 Wherefore, he saves all except them—they shall go away into everlasting punishment, which is endless punishment, which is eternal punishment, to reign with the devil and his angels in eternity, where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched, which is their torment—

45 And the end thereof, neither the place thereof, nor their torment, no man knows;

46 Neither was it revealed, neither is, neither will be revealed unto man, except to them who are made partakers thereof;

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5 minutes ago, Maedros said:

It's a place for those who like satan, were untrusted with spiritual knowledge and had authority therein but rebelled, just like he did; so those who go there and dwell with him are like him even in the way they get there. 

 

34 Concerning whom I have said there is no forgiveness in this world nor in the world to come—

35 Having denied the Holy Spirit after having received it, and having denied the Only Begotten Son of the Father, having crucified him unto themselves and put him to an open shame.

36 These are they who shall go away into the lake of fire and brimstone, with the devil and his angels—

37 And the only ones on whom the second death shall have any power;

38 Yea, verily, the only ones who shall not be redeemed in the due time of the Lord, after the sufferings of his wrath.

44 Wherefore, he saves all except them—they shall go away into everlasting punishment, which is endless punishment, which is eternal punishment, to reign with the devil and his angels in eternity, where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched, which is their torment—

45 And the end thereof, neither the place thereof, nor their torment, no man knows;

46 Neither was it revealed, neither is, neither will be revealed unto man, except to them who are made partakers thereof;

Those Romans really knew how to write books to control the people. The bible is an awesome work of pseudographia.

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On 1/12/2021 at 11:22 AM, MarpatV2 said:

Thats the thing that people seem to overlook, the actual mating. Even if it were done by artificial means the feotus would probably be too big for the woman to bear and never make it. Why would a giant be attracted to a woman if they were 4 times smaller, etc? note the sexual language too, the giants are always described as male.

 

If this were correct, you'd be absolutely right, but unfortunately it wasn't the giants mating with the women of the earth. it was the 200 fallen angels that landed on Mount Herman 33 degrees.

It wast this union between the fallen angels and the women which produced these giants.

 

These fallen angels had to watch there offspring's die during the deluge.

 

Because these giants were half angelic an half human, it was there immortal spirits which lived on and were forced to roam the earth as these evil demonic spirits looking for human bodies to possess

 

Unfortunately some of these Giant's survived the deluge, like Og. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Og

 

 

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4 hours ago, alexa said:

 

If this were correct, you'd be absolutely right, but unfortunately it wasn't the giants mating with the women of the earth. it was the 200 fallen angels that landed on Mount Herman 33 degrees.

It wast this union between the fallen angels and the women which produced these giants.

 

These fallen angels had to watch there offspring's die during the deluge.

 

Because these giants were half angelic an half human, it was there immortal spirits which lived on and were forced to roam the earth as these evil demonic spirits looking for human bodies to possess

 

Unfortunately some of these Giant's survived the deluge, like Og. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Og

 

 

Yes but dont you think the foetus of a giant would also be too big for a human woman to carry full term?

 

Your post is basically the christian explanation of why there are other Gods.

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6 hours ago, MarpatV2 said:

Yes but dont you think the foetus of a giant would also be too big for a human woman to carry full term?

 

Not at all, take the Liger for instance;

 

Ligers and tigons are hybrids, the offspring of the pairing of a lion and a tiger. Ligers have lion fathers and tiger mothers. They usually grow much larger than their parents, and female ligers (sometimes called ligresses) can sometimes have babies.

 

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6 minutes ago, alexa said:

 

Not at all, take the Liger for instance;

 

Ligers and tigons are hybrids, the offspring of the pairing of a lion and a tiger. Ligers have lion fathers and tiger mothers. They usually grow much larger than their parents, and female ligers (sometimes called ligresses) can sometimes have babies.

 

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But its not like a domestic house cat carrying a lion cub is it?

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On 1/15/2021 at 9:13 PM, Maedros said:

It's a place for those who like satan, were untrusted with spiritual knowledge and had authority therein but rebelled, just like he did; so those who go there and dwell with him are like him even in the way they get there. 

 

34 Concerning whom I have said there is no forgiveness in this world nor in the world to come—

35 Having denied the Holy Spirit after having received it, and having denied the Only Begotten Son of the Father, having crucified him unto themselves and put him to an open shame.

36 These are they who shall go away into the lake of fire and brimstone, with the devil and his angels—

37 And the only ones on whom the second death shall have any power;

38 Yea, verily, the only ones who shall not be redeemed in the due time of the Lord, after the sufferings of his wrath.

44 Wherefore, he saves all except them—they shall go away into everlasting punishment, which is endless punishment, which is eternal punishment, to reign with the devil and his angels in eternity, where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched, which is their torment—

45 And the end thereof, neither the place thereof, nor their torment, no man knows;

46 Neither was it revealed, neither is, neither will be revealed unto man, except to them who are made partakers thereof;

Nothing like good old threats to keep the congregation in line.

 

How can Jesus be the only begotten son when the sons of God are mentioned in the OT? surely they were physical enough to have sex with human women.

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6 minutes ago, MarpatV2 said:

 

How can Jesus be the only begotten son when the sons of God are mentioned in the OT?

 

Jesus is called "son of God," while followers of Jesus are called, "sons of God". As applied to Jesus, the term is a reference to his role as the Messiah, or Christ, the King chosen by God (Matthew 26:63)

 

In the OT the Son's of God were the fallen Angels;

 

Sons of God in Genesis 6:1–4 were the fallen angels who engaged in unnatural union with human women, resulting in the begetting of the Nephilim.

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1 hour ago, alexa said:

 

Jesus is called "son of God," while followers of Jesus are called, "sons of God". As applied to Jesus, the term is a reference to his role as the Messiah, or Christ, the King chosen by God (Matthew 26:63)

 

In the OT the Son's of God were the fallen Angels;

 

Sons of God in Genesis 6:1–4 were the fallen angels who engaged in unnatural union with human women, resulting in the begetting of the Nephilim.

Yes but they were still sons of God. Maybe not all of them fell either. Also, read Job, where the sons of God sit before the throne.

 

Messiah refers to any anointed king and jesus didnt fulfil the messianic prophecy. He didnt cause the jews to return to Israel nor build the third temple.

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16 minutes ago, MarpatV2 said:

Yes but they were still sons of God. Maybe not all of them fell either. Also, read Job, where the sons of God sit before the throne.

 

The Sons of God are the Angels who he created before us. Yes God created evil as he created Satan, it tells us this in Isaiah.

 

18 minutes ago, MarpatV2 said:

Messiah refers to any anointed king and jesus didnt fulfil the messianic prophecy. He didnt cause the jews to return to Israel nor build the third temple.

 

Jesus is God & King, and now his temple is us, this is what is mean't by the building of the third temple, In the final end day,  the Jews and the Gentiles will have been joined together, like the grafting in of an olive branch. This is what Paul's missions were all about.

 

1 Corinthians 6:19

“Don't you know that YOUR BODY is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God?” You are not your own.

 

God used to abide in the temple in Jerusalem, now He chooses to live in US

 

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