Ethel Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) Bit of a rant here, if you don't want a rant, best avoid this post. I am sick to the back teeth of websites like Bitchute and 'Brand New Tube'. If these are the only free speech promoting platforms competing with the tyranny of youtube then the world is in a very sorry state. I try to tune into both David Icke and Max Igan on bit chute and am constantly being faced with buffering issues and, worse still Proxy server errors or being signed out of the website against my fucking will. I gave up bothering with Brand New Tube after they irresponsibly failed their users by compromising their login details. For that alone, they deserve to go under. Bit chute is a piece of shit, I'll state it plainly. It's not user friendly, it looks cheap and tacky, the buffering issues are reflective of 1995 levels of Internet connection and their content, with the exception of maybe David Icke and Max Igan is cheap and amateurish. Say what you like about youtube, their design and functionality is highly user friendly. Rarely do I experience buffering issues on youtube, so the problem is not my Internet connection. I have fast broadband and the laptop sits right next to the router. Yet - every time now that I use bitchute, it fails to go through an entire video without stopping altogether because of buffering issues. I decided to leave it once, half an hour passed and the video did not start up again. On another occasion, the video was stopping every ten seconds or so, and buffering for about twenty seconds, it did this for around half an hour of the video I was watching. These websites are not going to play a role in 'awakening' the masses or raising the overall global level of consciousness if this is the kind of thing people can expect. It isn't good enough. I am not going to be inclined to keep listening to what David Icke has to say if the platform through which he speaks is a piece of fucking shit which doesn't work properly. Rant over. Edited October 20, 2020 by Ethel typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metak88 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Bitchute, community funded 30.000$/month vs Youtube, Google/Cabal owned with basically unlimited resources to spend. Yeah... Bandwidth/hosting cost money which is why Bitchute uses webtorrent technology to stream videos among peers. On their side they host "seed" which is a copy of video as a last resort option when there's no other peers to download from. All this can cause buffering issues. There's no way they can compete with Youtube in that regard. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethel Posted October 20, 2020 Author Share Posted October 20, 2020 43 minutes ago, metak88 said: All this can cause buffering issues. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Id rather have a huge audio library of truth and entertainment than pewdie pie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethel Posted October 20, 2020 Author Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Steph said: Id rather have a huge audio library of truth and entertainment than pewdie pie. Agreed. I don't watch pewdie pie. I access youtube for music and light hearted entertainment, for example a video of a monkey cuddling a cat. I would rather have a huge audio library of truth which doesn't have steam-powered buffering rates. Edited October 20, 2020 by Ethel punctuation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 There must be people who make the link that people concerned about internet censorship are just upset that their dog plays with goose videos arent as popular as peoples bear rescues moose videos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethel Posted October 20, 2020 Author Share Posted October 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Steph said: There must be people who make the link that people concerned about internet censorship are just upset that their dog plays with goose videos arent as popular as peoples bear rescues moose videos. This seems oddly off topic, but I appreciate the sentiment, however sarcastic it appears to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 3 hours ago, metak88 said: Bitchute, community funded 30.000$/month vs Youtube, Google/Cabal owned with basically unlimited resources to spend. Yeah... Bandwidth/hosting cost money which is why Bitchute uses webtorrent technology to stream videos among peers. On their side they host "seed" which is a copy of video as a last resort option when there's no other peers to download from. All this can cause buffering issues. There's no way they can compete with Youtube in that regard. That's basically it in a nutshell. Anyone can buy web hosting and set up a website. But videos take up a lot of storage space, and utilise a lot of bandwidth especially when multiple users are viewing the same video. People have taken YouTube for granted over the years, because it seems to have limitless storage space, and ultra-powerful servers and cloud infrastructure to host and serve content. And its always been free for its users. Other smaller platforms don't enjoy that same level of infrastructure unfortunately. Having said that, there are a lot of 'junk' videos out there. Me personally, if someone has got something interesting to say, I'd prefer it if they articulated their thoughts into a good concise written article, that I can read at my leisure. Sometimes, I just don't want to watch an hour long video that is basically just someone rambling into a camera. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethel Posted October 20, 2020 Author Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said: That's basically it in a nutshell. Anyone can buy web hosting and set up a website. But videos take up a lot of storage space, and utilise a lot of bandwidth especially when multiple users are viewing the same video. People have taken YouTube for granted over the years, because it seems to have limitless storage space, and ultra-powerful servers and cloud infrastructure to host and serve content. And its always been free for its users. Other smaller platforms don't enjoy that same level of infrastructure unfortunately. Having said that, there are a lot of 'junk' videos out there. Me personally, if someone has got something interesting to say, I'd prefer it if they articulated their thoughts into a good concise written article, that I can read at my leisure. Sometimes, I just don't want to watch an hour long video that is basically just someone rambling into a camera. I concur with all of what you've said. To be honest, I was so depressed and angry yesterday I could have died, and buffering on bit chute videos gave me a convenient outlet for my rage and despair today. That was assholish of me. They are doing their best. Edited October 20, 2020 by Ethel adding something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lake Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) As concerns Bitchute and the like Keep your friends close but your enemies closer! I do not wish to sound pessimistic but I consider that in the near term all alternative websites, forums and video hosting will be removed in some fashion. You would allow the current input as you would wish to have knowledge of your enemy. But this can be closed at any point (in effect there are only 8 ISP's in the UK) You allow it, currently, as it gives you all the information that you need about your enemies thoughts and intended actions. At the correct point that you have gained all you need to know, you close it down. How? Simple. We are now entering the normal 'flu' season with a majority of the population who have reduced immune systems, by their own submission, and have been conditioned into a belief of a pandemic. Next the death figures will rise exponentially and the 'disbelievers' will be blamed. To control this terrible action of the 'alternative' community it will be necessary to stop all 'fake news' about the covid pandemic on the internet. China style but more a new world order style. All 'alternative' sites will either be controlled by new laws, subjected to high fines or just bought and limited. 6-8 months I think and all this is gone. (but you have not that time. It will begin within the next 3-4 months) Edited October 20, 2020 by lake 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 5 hours ago, Ethel said: it fails to go through an entire video without stopping altogether because of buffering issues. I decided to leave it once, half an hour passed and the video did not start up again. On another occasion, the video was stopping every ten seconds or so, and buffering for about twenty seconds, it did this for around half an hour of the video I was watching. l would suggest trying a different browser. Bitchute doesn't seem to like Firefox for some reason. l use (dreaded google) Chrome on an old Win7 laptop and don't have problems like you're having. There's plenty of other free browsers to try.. BC :O) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niknik Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 For anyone who is interested it is possible to download videos from bitchute by downloading a tubemate app. Although it is intended for yt vids,you can bookmark a link for a bitchute channel,from someone like Vernon Coleman,then using search on bc you can bookmark others like DI,Crowhouse,x22 etc separately. Probably obvious,but not for those of us not so tech savvy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 On 10/20/2020 at 8:28 PM, Basket Case said: l would suggest trying a different browser. Bitchute doesn't seem to like Firefox for some reason. l use (dreaded google) Chrome on an old Win7 laptop and don't have problems like you're having. There's plenty of other free browsers to try.. BC :O) I think its more the other way round, that Firefox doesn't like BitChute. I've loved and used Firefox for years, but lately I'm noticing problems with a number of websites not working properly in Firefox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lake Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 (edited) I do not consider that in 6 months sites such as Bitchute will continue in their present form. I copy Bitchute videos and most others quite easily. For Bitchute I use developer tools which allow inspection of all the different parts of a web page. So all I need to do is inspect the video and get the 'seed' which I then open in a new tab. From there I can pause the video and 'right click' on it which gives me the option to 'save video as'. That simple. If you have not the tools (you can easily download them) then there is another simple way. On the Bitchute page, right click and select 'View Page Source'. This should open a new tab. In there use 'Find In This Page' (which is an option within your browser tools) And search for 'seed' <<<< without the '' And do not search for 'whole' words. There should be only one and if you open that link by copy paste then you will have the same thing and the option to 'save video as'. For Ytube I use https://www.4kdownload.com/products/product-videodownloader most of the time and most times it works well. If not then I use https://www.y2mate.com You just put a 'pp' after youtube. Such as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0.....whatever Becomes https://www.youtubepp.com/watch?v=p0.....whatever then you will/may get an option to download. I did also use https://www.savethevideo.com/ but they nolonger can do any YT They are fine for twater or faceshit though. At the worst, you can just record your screen as a video plays. There are many options for this. Once something is on your screen then YOU have the control of it. Just saying. Edited October 26, 2020 by lake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakwise Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 @lake Couldn't people just use development tools in the browser? Right-click? Or does it have to be a specialist tool? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lake Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, Oakwise said: Or does it have to be a specialist tool? Don't need to be specialize mate. If your browser has the tools then cool. Inspect any element of a page that you wish to. A thought div goes to div and you may need to open them to see inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakwise Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Cheers, man. I use browser dev tools quite regularly for work, so am familiar with the nesting. Mainly troubleshooting CSS errors. Never thought to check the seed thing of vids. That's a good tip. Will try it out. If we all build an offline archive, we can ensure the knowledge and info survives. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lake Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, Oakwise said: If we all build an offline archive, we can ensure the knowledge and info survives. Oh yes mate : ) It is like, I have never agreed to Ytubes consent popup. I just won't (the stubborn twat that I am) What I do is remove it. So everytime I go to a YT vid I get this type of thing (and this video creator hasn't read the headings of the document fields, which makes us look a bit silly): All I do is inspect it: and then scroll up a bit in the inspector and delete the node: That 'consent - bump' is always just above the green 'css - build - shady' delete that and watch the vid, read the comments, save it if it is of worth. Yes it takes 10 seconds but I will not consent to any of their shit EVER. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakwise Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, lake said: So everytime I go to a YT vid I get this type of thing (and this video creator hasn't read the headings of the document fields, which makes us look a bit silly): That's brilliant. Thank you. Another good thing about the inspect tool is that it allows you to edit the files locally. So you can have some fun with gov web pages, like putting on the specs from They Live. :) Edited October 26, 2020 by Oakwise 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lake Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Thats fucking brilliant Oak .... lmfao : ) Still laughing, nice mate lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 (edited) James Corbett has backed up all of his work on IPFS (see his podcast below for more info) I think we are heading for a deep purge of all independent media so i think its vital to start creating back up copies of key videos and articles and of course key books as in the not to distant future we may be gathering in secret gatherings sharing around snippets of information that keep the dream of human freedom alive...and just remember: if the mainstream media agrees with you then you aren't the resistance YouTube is Purging Again . . . Here’s How to Find Me Corbett • 10/25/2020 As you’ve probably seen by now, YouTube has engaged in another round of purging. But don’t worry, not only can you access all my work directly from CorbettReport.com, all of my videos are now uploaded to Archive.org, BitChute, LBRY and Minds.com. In addition, LBRY has now backed up the enter Corbett Report YouTube channel (and of course the entire Corbett Report Extras channel is backed up on BitChute). Oh, and I forgot to mention the IPFS backup of the entire website. Do your worst, GooTube! https://www.corbettreport.com/youtube-is-purging-again-heres-how-to-find-me/ Interview 1584 – Ernest Hancock and Derrick Slopey on IPFS Corbett • 10/12/2020 Did you know The Corbett Report is on IPFS? Well, you do now! Do you know what that means? Well, you’re about to! (Spoiler: The Corbett Report is now censorship proof resistant). watch clip here: https://ipfs.io/ipns/QmNqHuSVuufkBKK1LHtoUmKETobZriC1o5uoiXSoLX2i3K/interview-1584-ernest-hancock-and-derrick-slopey-on-ipfs/ Edited October 26, 2020 by Macnamara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metak88 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 @lake You should familiarize yourself with youtube-dl tool. It's a very powerful command line program for downloading videos from youtube, bitchute, facebook and hundreds more... it's open source, free, no limitations on how many videos you can download per day, no ads, etc. If you're archiving/saving videos from bitchute you would save it like this: youtube-dl --embed-thumbnail --add-metadata https://www.bitchute.com/video/FBBlhta2alIW/ This will download the video, thumbnail, metadata (video name and video description) and merge them all into final one video file. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 1 hour ago, metak88 said: youtube-dl tool Is this the name of it ? Or - what is the name. Can you recommend a download link ? Thanks BC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metak88 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Basket Case said: Can you recommend a download link ? Homepage: https://youtube-dl.org/ Download latest version: https://youtube-dl.org/latest And if you're using one of many Linux distributions then it's most likely in their repositories to install. Edited October 28, 2020 by metak88 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lake Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, metak88 said: And if you're using one of many Linux distributions then it's most likely in their repositories to install. Thanks mate and it is I just snapped it I have seen you posts about it before and always meant to grab it but never got round to it but now I have, cheers metak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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