shabbirss Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 It depends on where you shop online. And also how you define 'safe'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Humungus Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 (edited) The will have your name, address, payment card, bank account, and they'll know what you eat/drink Edited October 16, 2020 by Lord Humungus 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Pay Pal was bought up by ebay last year, online eBay’s is not coming from the giant Internet marketplace’s California headquarters., instead it is launched by a team of 14 young Israeli geeks (and Marti, their “inspiration dog”) on Tel Aviv’s yuppified Rothschild Boulevard. Everything seems to be coming from Israel these days ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Humungus Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 2 hours ago, alexa said: Pay Pal was bought up by ebay last year, online eBay’s is not coming from the giant Internet marketplace’s California headquarters., instead it is launched by a team of 14 young Israeli geeks (and Marti, their “inspiration dog”) on Tel Aviv’s yuppified Rothschild Boulevard. Everything seems to be coming from Israel these days ?? Do you have a source I can verify for this interesting information please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 2 hours ago, alexa said: Pay Pal was bought up by ebay last year, online eBay’s is not coming from the giant Internet marketplace’s California headquarters., instead it is launched by a team of 14 young Israeli geeks (and Marti, their “inspiration dog”) on Tel Aviv’s yuppified Rothschild Boulevard. Everything seems to be coming from Israel these days ?? You're wrong about PayPal. It was acquired by eBay in 2002, and split off into a wholly seperate company in 2015. PayPal is nothing to do with eBay now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Humungus Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Grumpy Owl said: You're wrong about PayPal. It was acquired by eBay in 2002, and split off into a wholly seperate company in 2015. PayPal is nothing to do with eBay now. They do work very closely together as if they were the same company. If you shop at eBay you'll know this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 38 minutes ago, Lord Humungus said: They do work very closely together as if they were the same company. If you shop at eBay you'll know this Actually no they don't, eBay is already rolling out its own 'Managed Payments' system for sellers, which allows buyers to pay by credit/debit card without going through PayPal. The advantage for sellers is that they no longer pay fees to PayPal, but the disadvantage is they don't receive the money straightaway. While eBay is keen for as many sellers as possible to ditch Paypal, sellers will still be able to offer PayPal as a payment method. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Humungus Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said: Actually no they don't, eBay is already rolling out its own 'Managed Payments' system for sellers, which allows buyers to pay by credit/debit card without going through PayPal. The advantage for sellers is that they no longer pay fees to PayPal, but the disadvantage is they don't receive the money straightaway. While eBay is keen for as many sellers as possible to ditch Paypal, sellers will still be able to offer PayPal as a payment method. I shop at eBay frequently. I've made purchases at eBay this week. And PayPal is fully integrated with eBay. Most, if not all sellers on eBay only offer PayPal as the only payment method. eBay and PayPal support work as one. You send a ticket to eBay and you'll get a reply from PayPal. Denying eBay and PayPal work as one is ridiculous Edited October 17, 2020 by Lord Humungus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, Lord Humungus said: I shop at eBay frequently. I've made purchases at eBay this week. And PayPal is fully integrated with eBay. Most, if not all sellers on eBay only offer PayPal as the only payment method. eBay and PayPal support work as one. You send a ticket to eBay and you'll get a reply from PayPal. Denying eBay and PayPal work as one is ridiculous I don't want to start an argument, but I've been selling on eBay since 2010. At work, we get all the Business Seller updates from eBay so I'm well aware of what is happening. Yes, PayPal is fully integrated with eBay, but they are no longer directly connected as eBay offloaded PayPal in 2015. PayPal also integrates with other ecommerce systems. eBay is trying to become more like Amazon; they have already started 'monitoring' email communications between sellers and buyers (eBay no longer provides the buyers actual email address, but an 'alias' instead), and with their own payment gateway, eBay will be able to control the monies that sellers receive. While a lot of buyers and sellers are happy to use PayPal for payment processing, it is eBay's perception that a lot of potential buyers are 'put off' from completing purchases because they don't want to use PayPal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Humungus Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 @Grumpy Owl We seem to get our messages crossed, or my messages are not coming across to you. I'm very well aware eBay offloaded PayPal in 2015. I'm just saying that as a user experience eBay and PayPal seem to be working as one. And I am not aware of PayPal being fully integrated like that with any other auction/shopping/webshop site. I have yet to find any other eBay seller that's accepting any other form of payment besides PayPal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Paypal was Ebay and Ebay was paypal. Paypal for non-ebay use was an after thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Humungus Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Steph said: Paypal was Ebay and Ebay was paypal. Paypal for non-ebay use was an after thought. That was a long time ago. I don't remember if Paypal was used without eBay in the early days or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Ebays very functionality relied on paypal and paypals workability relied on ebay. This was the first pioneer of online financial transaction systems. The nearest thing to that was the equivelent of emailing your card details to trusted companys few of whom would deal with such transactions preferring at least the phone. Online banking came after paypal was a working proof of concept and it became so first with ebay, then with the rest of the net. Online banking started on the back of paypal and it all worked on http without ssl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, Lord Humungus said: Do you have a source I can verify for this interesting information please? https://www.cnet.com/news/ebay-picks-up-paypal-for-1-5-billion/#:~:text=Like many of its customers,service%2C eBay Payments by Billpoint. https://jewishjournal.com/mobile_20111212/112264/ Edited October 17, 2020 by alexa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 1 hour ago, alexa said: https://www.cnet.com/news/ebay-picks-up-paypal-for-1-5-billion/#:~:text=Like many of its customers,service%2C eBay Payments by Billpoint. There you go, that article is dated from August 2002. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmony Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 did you know google tracks your purchases made off google? if you go to https://myaccount.google.com/purchases?pli=1 you will see all sorts. You have to systematically switch all that crap off or stop using them I imagine the other mail providers do a similar thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 5 hours ago, Lord Humungus said: @Grumpy Owl We seem to get our messages crossed, or my messages are not coming across to you. I'm very well aware eBay offloaded PayPal in 2015. I'm just saying that as a user experience eBay and PayPal seem to be working as one. And I am not aware of PayPal being fully integrated like that with any other auction/shopping/webshop site. I have yet to find any other eBay seller that's accepting any other form of payment besides PayPal. PayPal is just a payment processing gateway. Paypal is a payment method offered by a number of websites such as Argos and even Iceland Foods, and there are integrations with all sorts of ecommerce systems, including Shopify, BigCommerce, Magento, WooCommerce and many others. I made a website for my sister using Wordpress and Woocommerce and she takes payments via PayPal. Our own website I am building at work uses PayPal too. UK online marketplace OnBuy.com uses PayPal exclusively as its payment processor: https://www.onbuy.com/gb/ All I'm trying to do here is just correct the notion that eBay and PayPal are "one and the same" as that is no longer the case, not since 2015 anyway. PayPal has its own advanced API interface which allows all sorts of third-party systems to directly integrate with it, not just eBay. But regarding eBay's own Managed Payments gateway, it has only been rolled out to sellers in the UK in the last couple of months, so it is true that you may not yet have seen many UK sellers offering direct card payments, though I understand this has been available to eBay sellers in other countries for over a year now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaleP Posted May 23, 2024 Share Posted May 23, 2024 (edited) Since the last post of 2020, things must have progressed in terms of payment gateways? I haven't tried these but there is Venmo, Stripe and SumUp which I see some fruits and veg market traders use. btw, I've never used this Chinese website called Temu and Shein but apparently it's dirt cheap like 97% off but as soon as you input your credit card details....it gets sold on the black market so don't go there to stock up. Edited May 23, 2024 by DaleP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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