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Hi Folks, 

 

I’ve recently started using a water distiller and was wondering what other people’s experiences have been? 
 

I’m finding the water tastes like kettle water, once its cooled down. Or the taste of drinking water from the hot tap. 
 

I’m just wondering if that’s a normal aftertaste ? (Obviously that would make sense considering the whole machine is like a giant kettle). 

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I used to drink distilled regularly at one time ,  I still think it's the best , reverse osmosis is very close second .... As for taste , if it's true distilled it shouldn't have one , but you may perceive that it does because  you are used to normal water and it's a change , you notice the change and perceive that as a taste ...

 

What is taste or smell ? it's chemicals activating receptor sites in tonged of nose , but there should be zero chemicals in pure water , so it can't have a taste ...

 

So it could be you just need to get used to it ...

 

or alternatively it really does have a taste (is very mildly contaminated) ... If a new machine the heating element could be giving something off , after a few runs this will go and taste should be gone ...another possibility is volatiles in feed water , which pass over with the steam  unlikely ...

 

One type of distiller I used had a small charcoal bag and the water dripped through this after distillation , this will remove everything , I guess the manufacturer was worried about chlorine passing over with the steam , which will happen if feed water is chlorinated.

 

Did you make it or buy one ? if I saw the model I might have more thoughts... 

 

Edit ... just checked ebay , they sell these small charcoal bags for distillers , same size as tea bags 

 

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If your water drips through one of these after distillation it will be guaranteed 100% pure 

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Hi to you both - I use a distiller too - have done for around 15 years. its the standard electric 4 litre type with the coiled stainless steel pipe at the top which drips water onto the charcoal teabag like filter to remove an residual volatiles. I use  glass collector too and not the plastic type.

With a new dsitiller -  it needs a thorough clean to remove contaminants and it has to be run through a few times before the taste/smell clears. 

I live in an area where the water is chlorinated and fluoridated so the charcoal filters are essential.

I  also use an ozonator to neutralise any remaining contaminants as there will be some unless you have a specialised lab type set up and triple distil. These home distillers remove around 99.9~ % of crud and thats why I ozonate the water afterwards - I dont bother for tea though!

 

I sometimes mineralise the water if I want to drink it purely - the best I have eperienced  is a little pinch of pure msm (methylsuphonylmethane - sulphur)  and maybe a miniscule pinch of sea salt and a flake of mag chloride  and a dusting of bicarbonate  in a litre or two - water like this tastes pure and sweet and is ultimately satesfying and quenches thirst like nothing else esp if chilled.

Tap water is disgusting and most bottled waters (esp in plastic bottles) are bland by comparison.

 

 

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Just now, allymisfit said:

Any recommendations for a newbie? I wouldn't mind starting this as our tap water tastes like bleach. Yuck!

 

Yes .... Distillation is not really sensible a bulky apparatus that clutters up the place and needs tending , and expensive to run (electricity) and very limited output ...

 

Reverse osmosis is the best idea .. free to run , large output can be tucked away and will remove 90% of the nasties ...

 

People who keep fish often use them , fish are very sensitive to water quality , so get down to the nearest aquarium shop and have a chat , that is the cheapest place to buy one. 

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2 hours ago, allymisfit said:

Any recommendations for a newbie? I wouldn't mind starting this as our tap water tastes like bleach. Yuck!


lf you're in the UK, l'd recommend a mega-home distiller.
Keep it clean inside (use a scourer between runs to remove scale - it's stainless steel so easy to keep clean) 

Keep the top cooling unit clean from dust and fluff with a hoover.
Glass or BPA-free plastic collecting jugs.
Charcoal bag in spout to be replaced every couple of weeks.
Had mine for around 2 years....all good so far.
l wait until the jug has cooled to room temperature before l use it.


 

megahome distilller.jpg

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On 10/3/2020 at 1:08 AM, oz93666 said:

I used to drink distilled regularly at one time ,  I still think it's the best , reverse osmosis is very close second .... As for taste , if it's true distilled it shouldn't have one , but you may perceive that it does because  you are used to normal water and it's a change , you notice the change and perceive that as a taste ...

 

What is taste or smell ? it's chemicals activating receptor sites in tonged of nose , but there should be zero chemicals in pure water , so it can't have a taste ...

 

So it could be you just need to get used to it ...

 

or alternatively it really does have a taste (is very mildly contaminated) ... If a new machine the heating element could be giving something off , after a few runs this will go and taste should be gone ...another possibility is volatiles in feed water , which pass over with the steam  unlikely ...

 

One type of distiller I used had a small charcoal bag and the water dripped through this after distillation , this will remove everything , I guess the manufacturer was worried about chlorine passing over with the steam , which will happen if feed water is chlorinated.

 

Did you make it or buy one ? if I saw the model I might have more thoughts... 

 

Edit ... just checked ebay , they sell these small charcoal bags for distillers , same size as tea bags 

 

s-l225.webp

 

If your water drips through one of these after distillation it will be guaranteed 100% pure 

 

Thanks Oz, it's just a cheap table top one off ebay. i think the taste is from the heating element. i have some of the charcoal t-bags now 🙂

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On 10/6/2020 at 4:20 PM, Basket Case said:


lf you're in the UK, l'd recommend a mega-home distiller.
Keep it clean inside (use a scourer between runs to remove scale - it's stainless steel so easy to keep clean) 

Keep the top cooling unit clean from dust and fluff with a hoover.
Glass or BPA-free plastic collecting jugs.
Charcoal bag in spout to be replaced every couple of weeks.
Had mine for around 2 years....all good so far.
l wait until the jug has cooled to room temperature before l use it.


 

megahome distilller.jpg

 

very similar to my set up. did you have a slightly strange tang to it, within the first few runs? 

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1 hour ago, 2020member said:

 

very similar to my set up. did you have a slightly strange tang to it, within the first few runs? 

 

TBH - l can't remember now.
Had it quite a long time.
l don't think so.......but l did do the first 'go' and then threw it all away, drinking the second batch, after a friend recommended that l did, so maybe that's why ? 

 

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3 hours ago, 2020member said:

hi @zarkov

 

thanks for the reply. how would i go about getting a ozonator? and how does it work in conjunction with the distilling process? 

Hi @2020member

I got a cheap one of ebay about 15 years ago ~£40 iirc

Similar to this

or this one

They have come down in price since then. The one I have has 2 silicone tubes one for air intake and one for exhaust. The intake draws air in via a filter that removes moisture via silica beads in a plastic capsule and the exhaust although a low relative output is enough to clean neutralise some of the chemicals that remain in the water - There is a water stone at the end of the exhaust tube to create fine bubbles which increases ozonation efficiency.

If you decide to get one make sure you read about them, theres plenty of info on the internet. mines been going strong for 15 yrs and most people recomended I get a better one but it has been great for me. Lots of other uses for them too so read up before you decide.

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14 minutes ago, zarkov said:

Hi @2020member

I got a cheap one of ebay about 15 years ago ~£40 iirc

Similar to this

or this one

They have come down in price since then. The one I have has 2 silicone tubes one for air intake and one for exhaust. The intake draws air in via a filter that removes moisture via silica beads in a plastic capsule and the exhaust although a low relative output is enough to clean neutralise some of the chemicals that remain in the water - There is a water stone at the end of the exhaust tube to create fine bubbles which increases ozonation efficiency.

If you decide to get one make sure you read about them, theres plenty of info on the internet. mines been going strong for 15 yrs and most people recomended I get a better one but it has been great for me. Lots of other uses for them too so read up before you decide.


thank you very much for that. I shall look into the suggestions and read up on them a bit! 

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On 10/6/2020 at 10:20 PM, Basket Case said:

Charcoal bag in spout to be replaced every couple of weeks.

 

That looks a a nifty little machine BC ....

 

But I can't imagine the charcoal bags need replacing more than every 6 months .... The manufacturer will be trying to milk customers .. you will end up spending more on these bags than the machine cost ....

 

My understanding of chemistry tells me the levels of volatiles in the feed water are so extremely small as to be insignificant ... If you don't have chlorinated feed water (can tell by smell) , then there is no real need for a charcoal bag ...If you do have chlorinated water (very rare in Western countries) , then leaving it to stand in a bowl . cold , for a few hours will cause the chlorine to evaporate . ....

 

In the standard laboratory distillation apparatus in chemistry labs  for making distilled , there is no charcoal filter ... simple distillation , by itself removes everything.

 

The charcoal bag thing maybe a total con .... with just one exception , when the machine is new , there maybe something on the inside surface of the machine , or the heating element . After a few cycles it will all be gone .   

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4 minutes ago, oz93666 said:

 

But I can't imagine the charcoal bags need replacing more than every 6 months .... The manufacturer will be trying to milk customers .. you will end up spending more on these bags than the machine cost

 

The manufacturer recommends that the little charcoal bag in the removable nozzle is changed every month, I think.. 

I replace it every 3 / 4 / 5 weeks or so or unless I knock the nozzle off when puliing the top cooling unit off and the wet bag ends up on the floor. 

I guess that you're correct. They're going to recommend replacing it more often than necessary. 

The company always gets spares out quickly and they're reasonably priced. 

New nozzle (from knocking it off too often - charcoal bags and deep cleaning crystals - Citric Acid - for when the scale gets too hard to scrub out. Normally deep clean it every 6 / 7 / 8 weeks or so.. 

They keep everything in stock ready to despatch. 

New bottom heating base unit - top cooling unit - top seal - thermal cut out switch etc.... None of which I've needed in nearly 2 years. 

They do a higher grade Stainless Steel spec Deluxe model capable of distilling water from sea water !! 

I don't live by the sea so I gave that a miss 🙃

 

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"Distillation is not really sensible a bulky apparatus that clutters up the place and needs tending , and expensive to run (electricity)" 

Disagree. Actually super easy, have had a machine used almost daily for 8 years and not had a problem. Electricity bills havent gone through the roof and filter doesnt need replacing like osmosis. 

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2 hours ago, rooey said:

"Distillation is not really sensible a bulky apparatus that clutters up the place and needs tending , and expensive to run (electricity)" 

Disagree. Actually super easy, have had a machine used almost daily for 8 years and not had a problem. Electricity bills havent gone through the roof and filter doesnt need replacing like osmosis. 

 

I don't know about you but I don't need anymore clutter on kitchen work surfaces ...Look at the picture from BC ...something to be plugged in , switched on , filled up every time you want a liter .. the machine taking up space , dripping into a container taking up more space , which can only hold a liter ...

 

Compared to RO where the device is out of sight under the kitchen surface , the only thing you see is the small tap coming out of the work surface delivering as much as you want 

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Just searched how much power needed to distill ...almost exactly 1 KWHr /liter that's 15p/liter !! 

 

RO filter ?? Manufacturers recommend replacing every 2 or 3 years (cost 7 pounds)  .... even the smallest  will deliver 200liters /day ...the domestic user will not use 200liters/month  so the membrane should last 30 times longer ! ...70 years .... the manufacturer won't tell you that  they will be looking to sell more of these things , quality of water can be checked with dissolved solids meter to make sure it's working properly . 

 

While on the subject of rip off manufacturers , medicines like asprin , parasetamol , viagra always have a use by date ...these chemicals will not degrade , they are as stable  as  sea salt .... much sea salt is mined from deep underground , been sitting there for hundreds of millions of years , unchanged ..

 

I just did a quick search to make sure I wasn't wrong ...

 

"...What they found from the study is 90% of more than 100 drugs, both prescription and over-the-counter, were perfectly good to use even 15 years after the expiration date. So, the expiration date doesn't really indicate a point at which the medication is no longer effective or has become unsafe to use.Aug 29, 2020 ..."

 

 

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that's pricing at 27 cents a litre Australian, but the prices doesn't matter, because being able to remove 100% of impurities, distilled water is the best for detox, it can remove heavy metals from the body, something RO water can't do. 

 

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I also have the megahome distiller since aug mine came with a glass jug though. Maybe the placebo effect or maybe not but I definatly felt an impact from drinking the pure water. I have much more energy, just feel really good.

The waste at the end of the cycle looks gross I'm so glad I bought this machine. However I agree with the poster above. It's difficult to find a place for such a big machine, Ive moved mine around the house so far, not found a permanant area for it and the fan is pretty noisey. It's hassle taking off the lid to refil it, you have to unplug both connectors and some may find it heavy to hold under the tap whilst filling and certainly whilst carrying a full tank.

be better if there was something you could integrate into the water main pipes to do it auto from source and get pure water from  all the taps. I leave mine running over night so I have a fresh batch for the next day.

I've bought a cheap TDS meter and tested the tap water v distilled. tap was 0.6ppm and the distilled was 0.

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On 10/24/2020 at 3:58 AM, megatron3 said:

Dring cold pure water from a untouched water spring is actually the best feeling,...just try putting your head under one sometime.


when your head is hot enough, submersing in any form of cool water is incredible :) 

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