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2 hours ago, Mikheil said:
A long reply, please bear with me
From Genesis (King James Version) Chapter ONE
Now we move on to Chapter TWO :
8And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
15And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.
16And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
22And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
And now to Chapter EIGHT
So now for the crunch. We are told that "All men are equal, regardless of race, colour or creed, because we all come from Adam and Eve."
This is patently NOT true, because we have the offspring of Adam and Eve (The sons of God). We also have the sons and daughters of man who God created on the sixth day and we also have the "Fallen Angels"
So will someone explain in very small words, who are these people and how can you claim that all men on earth come from Adam and Eve and are thus all equal?
I’ve looked into this over the last couple of years and I probably agree with you in part. Certainly people are not equal. Additionally I don’t think the Bible necessarily teaches that all who are today called people are from Adam and Eve either. “Equality” is read into scripture not from it.That said I believe you are making an assumption that the first two chapters of Genesis are purely chronological. Chapter 2 is probably a restating of Chapter 1, possibly from a different source or author, and were brought together into the ‘book’ we call Genesis. It is likely that the Sons of God are men and the Daughters of Man are women and called such because they came from man (Adam’s rib in the story). This explanation seems to work.
As for the fallen angels, they are not relevant when we’re talking about people. They aren’t people. They are simply fallen angels. The Bible says nothing of their creation.
https://www.bibleodyssey.org/en/passages/related-articles/two-creations-in-genesis
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My thinking is very similar but I’ve not worked out any detail, I’m still a little muddled about it and focusing on learning more before I commit to any answers, but based on what I think I know already I do think you’re on the right track. My research is leading me down the same path and has been for a while now. I found your post very helpful, so thanks again. I hope to read more from you as time goes on.
I also resonate with @78ast78dgyad’s thoughts about PKD. Again I’ve been interested in his writings for years and dip into his Exegesis from time to time.
These are all aspects of the truth, I’m convinced. I’ve just got to continue putting all the pieces together.
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18 hours ago, PH196 said:
This is a long post, so bear with me, and as Icke would say, keep an open mind.
I was reading some of his latest book ‘the answer’, and correct me if I’m wrong, but there is quite a bit of overlap between Mr. Icke’s work and contemporary Christianity. Yes, he does make the distinction that the whole ‘savior’ concept is seen throughout many religions, including pagan religions i.e. Horus, but if he is citing Gnostic literature to support his claims on who the archons are, then he can’t entirely ignore Christ. After all, the information contained in the Nag Hammadi texts can ultimately be traced back to Christ. Quoting from the secret book of John:
“ Hymn of the Savior (30, 11–31, 25)
Now I, the perfect Forethought of the All, transformed myself into my offspring. I existed first and went down every path. 138 I am the abundance of light, I am the remembrance of Fullness. I traveled in the realm of great darkness, and continued until I entered the midst of the prison. The foundations of chaos shook, and I hid from them because of their evil, and they did not recognize me. Again I returned, a second time, and went on. I had come from the inhabitants of light—I, the remembrance of Forethought. I entered the midst of darkness and the bowels of the underworld, turning to my task. The foundations of chaos shook as though to fall upon those who dwell in chaos and destroy them. Again I hurried back to the root of my
light so they might not be destroyed before their time. Again, a third time, I went forth—I am the light dwelling in light, I am the remembrance of Forethought—so that I might enter the midst of darkness and the bowels [31] of the underworld. I brightened my face with light from the consummation of their realm and entered the midst of their prison, which is the prison of the body. I said, Let whoever hears arise from deep sleep. 139 A person wept and shed tears. Bitter tears the person wiped away, and said, “Who is calling my name? From where has my hope come as I dwell in the bondage of prison?”
I recall from his book ‘tales of the time loop’ that Icke essentially describes how our reality became a Frankenstein matrix that was so vibrationally dense that the entrapped consciousness (souls) could not escape its walls. Whose to say that Christ’s appearance was not a pivotal part in the dismantling of the perceptual slavery system? That above quote from the gnostic texts would lend credence to that theory. You could say that Christ is that being which leads all life back to God - he is the direct emanation of the Godhead, 'the Son'. Christianity has been so culturally contaminated that people have become programmed to reduce Christ down to ‘a really nice guy.’
Mr. Icke seems to at once acknowledge in his books the presence of the darker aspect that controls out reality, namely ‘the archons’ or fallen angels; with Yaldabaoth/Lucifer/Satan being the main antagonist.
Not unlike a theologian, he is essentially telling us in some mysterious way that there is a Devil who is a personal being and who is opposed to God and who is the enemy of our souls, but as usual he does not tell us who the Devil is, where he came from and what he is. He does not elaborate that the Devil is in fact a fallen angel and the chief of those who were cast out of heaven for rebellion against God before the material creation existed.
That is to say, the Devil is a fallen angel spirit and the chief of those angel spirits who were cast out of God’s spiritual kingdom and from His spiritual presence, Life and Light into spiritual darkness and death for having rebelled against His spiritual Kingdom—against Him as Life.
These are “Demons” or evil angels; “For there is a numerous band of these Fallen Spirits.”—Mark 5:9. And Lucifer was among the highest of all God’s Angels:
You were the signet of perfection,*
full of wisdom and perfect in beauty.
13 You were in Eden, the garden of God;
every precious stone was your covering,
carnelian, chrysolite, and moonstone,
beryl, onyx, and jasper,
sapphire,* turquoise, and emerald;
and worked in gold were your settings
and your engravings.*
On the day that you were created
they were prepared.
14 With an anointed cherub as guardian I placed you;*
you were on the holy mountain of God;
you walked among the stones of fire.
15 You were blameless in your ways
from the day that you were created,
until iniquity was found in you.
16 In the abundance of your trade
you were filled with violence, and you sinned;
so I cast you as a profane thing from the mountain of God,
and the guardian cherub drove you out
from among the stones of fire.
Now I discuss what Icke has termed the archon ‘hack’:
Essentially, the Material creation is the counterfeit of the Spiritual World. The Spiritual is real, the Material is Unreal. There is a correspondency in the Spiritual and Material World's, Life is in Spiritual and Death is in the Material.
The counterfeit of the Real—Darkness and death, as the opposites of Light and Life, did not exist until Lust was conceived in the Consciousness of the Souls of the Spiritual beings made in God’s image.
The reason the mortal creation dies is that it was not spiritually conceived by God. It is infinitesimal and thus does not really exist.
Evil (the mind of lust) cannot produce good fruit, that is why the mortal dies. This material universe was 'manifested' as a consequence of Lucifer's rebellion against God. This entire finite multiverse is God manifesting the opposite of himself -- the mortal concept -- as the result of their transgression.
The heavenly domains (eden) are the creation of God’s mind, and reflect life. The biblical ‘fall of man’ is the spiritual man becoming conscious of the physical man, and knowing the difference between the two. That is, the man made in God’s image yielded to the minds of the fallen angels, and mortal propagation is the result.
This is essentially the dual nature of all existence.
Spiritual life is Internal—physical life is external. Spiritual life is a reality—the Truth—and exists in the divine mind. So-called physical life is error and is unreal to the divine mind and only exists in the mind of the senses of the mortal creation. Spiritual life as manifested in physical life is the reflection and the image of God, the Reality of Spirit; all spiritual life, as manifested in physical life, is derived from Spirit. There is not any inherent life in matter.
As the conception of evil fades out of the consciousness of the minds of the beings created in God’s image, then the ‘physical’ counterpart of the realm ceases to exist - God has filled that void.
The attributes of the Fallen Angels are expressed in the personality and nature of the material and physical man. Their minds are manifested in the Soul through the mortal mind of the physical man.
This descent of higher consciousness into this archontic matrix, and becoming consequently entrapped, is known as ‘the fall of man’ in Christian theology.
Clarifying: The physical domains are the manifestation of the minds of the Fallen Angels, and reflect death. The heavenly domains are the manifestation of God’s mind and reflect life. The difference is in their permanence: the physical domains are finite (mortal, infinitesimal), the heavenly domains (eden) are infinite.
What consciousness is then doing here is essentially peering into an infinitesimal domain. What lies beyond the confines of this body-mind perception is, as David Icke correctly postulates — infinite awareness, which is governed by the law of existence: infinite love. That is (if you are a spirit being…not an ‘organic portal’ with no spiritual component) your consciousness is actually an infinite being of infinite scope ‘constructed’ of the same stuff as God - unconditional love. Your life with a name and address is a non-existent construct, a fleeting perception.
Also correct: the ‘fallen angels’ are essentially a distorted form of awareness that has lost their heart centered connection with ‘ the One’ - God. They were caste from his presence into spiritual darkness. God withdrew his light from them when they sinned against him.
What ya'll think?
Excellent post. Some very good thoughts there my friend.-
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I don’t trust it at all. People are getting rich, but it very often isn’t the little man. I invested and traded it for 4 years. Lost about 90%. It is not as easy as it looks, I promise. It’s a highly manipulated arena. Sure you can buy and hold, but you must be certain the future for Bitcoin is bright, and frankly none of us are. Very risky.
But to address the OP. Yes, this is getting everyone used to digital currency and the thought that it is antiestablishment is hilarious when you dig a little under the surface. Bitcoin, like everything else, is completely controlled.
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On 3/13/2021 at 6:21 PM, shabbirss said:
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Advice from a Barrister on how to deal with vax demands from your employer or anyone else:
Contact your doctor and book a Vaccine anxiety appointment. At this point you become a medical case as anxiety is a real issue. Then collect information about adverse effects and send that to you doctor and get them to answer your concerns. If they don't answer then claim this gives you further anxiety.
Then ask your doctor to agree to a thorough medical for you BEFORE any injection so if you are made to have the injection you have baseline medical evidence from medical experts to prove it affected you adversely if it does. If they refuse, claim further anxiety.
Then say you want a contract with the doctor administering the injection and their practice having full liability if you are medically poorly for up to end of life. The doctor will refuse this proving the vaccine might be unsafe and that ADDS to your anxiety.
While this is all going on tell your employer you are looking in to it with advice from your doctor.
YOU WILL WIN!!
Anyone that does this will win.
Use it.
I have a degree in law and this is the process I have applied.
It works! :)
(Copy and paste where ever you like anyone).
This is honestly perfect. And will work for anyone, including those who have had other injections (someone above said it wouldn’t) because the fear isn’t the injection itself but rather the contents of it based on legitimate information.I have kept this and shared it, and I will use it. And it will work.
Thank you very much.
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Absolute proof of Geoengineering using weather modification by chemtrails.Dane Wigington and GeoeongineeringWatch.org are excited to announce the release of their groundbreaking documentary that conclusively exposes the existence of global climate engineering operations.
Global climate engineering operations are a reality. Atmospheric particle testing conducted by GeoengineeringWatch.org has now proven that the lingering, spreading jet aircraft trails, so commonly visible in our skies, are not just condensation as we have officially been told.
Over 75 years ago global powers committed the planet and populations to a climate engineering experiment from which there is no return.
The intentional dimming of direct sunlight by aircraft dispersed particles, a form of global warming mitigation known as “Solar Radiation Management”, has and is causing catastrophic damage to the planet's life support systems. The highly toxic fallout from the ongoing geoengineering operations is also inflicting unquantifiable damage to human health.
Why aren’t scientists or official sources disclosing the ongoing climate engineering operations?
Who is responsible for carrying out these programs?
What will the consequences be if geoengineering / solar radiation management operations are allowed to continue?
The Dimming documentary provides answers to these questions and many more.
source: https://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/the-dimming-full-length-climate-engineering-documentary/
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Fed up of Facebook
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Why would anyone with an ounce of knowledge still be on Facebook?