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  1. This reality seems to be a counterfeit of true reality. Why? It reflects death rather than life. Man, in this fallen state, is not the child of God but is the child of the Devil. Christ was sent to call the soul out from the unreal (death) to life, and to do this he had to overcome the serpent's mind (the mind of Satan) which is the cause of all mortal propagation and death. The Devil was a murderer and a liar from the beginning when he rebelled against God as life, and this mortal creation is the unfoldment of the minds of the fallen angels into consciousness. It is not-life (death). The means by which this "Adam man" is conceived and brought into existence is anti-spiritual and contrary to God's spiritual universe and His spiritual laws. As God is the real life, spirit and light of the universe - the Absence of God in mind and thought - must be death, matter and darkness. This is the state of mind of those fallen beings, and this mortal creation is the manifestation of their minds. “Jesus said unto them, If God were your father ye would love me; for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. Why do ye not understand my speech? Even because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning and abode not in truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie he speaketh of his own; for he is a liar and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth you believe me not. Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the Truth, why do you not believe me? He that is of God hearth God’s words; you therefore hear them not, because you are not of God.” John 8:41-47 Here the Master compares and represents the state of the fallen angel to be at enmity with God's spiritual kingdom, "a murderer from the beginning" - and that he rebelled against the truth of God's spiritual kingdom and that when he speaketh he speaketh a lie and that he speaketh his own for he is a liar and the father of liars; and that the physical man which is created by the law of lust is his child and offspring and partakes of his nature, and is in rebellion against God. Sex-lust is the "Babbler" and the serpent that deceived Eve - and all Mortal Conception is of Sex-lust - the mind and thoughts of the Devil - the Fallen Spirits. This father of liars, who is a fallen spirit, and is in rebellion against God's spiritual kingdom, is represented in the power of the flesh - the sex of the mortal creation - and the material man; and his evil personality is personified in the essence of lust by which the physical man is conceived and generated. "And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name. And he said unto them: I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven." Luke 1:7 to 8:2. Here we see the Apostles and the Fathers of the Early Church cast out devils in the name of the Christ - cast out the sex - the power of the flesh from the mind - by the power of the spirit. That is, they were in such perfect harmony with God's spiritual kingdom and had such perfect control over the flesh, that they healed and cured the lame and the sick. The Master cured the infirmities of the flesh - the sickness of the physical man - which sickness and infirmities are but the power of the evil of the angels that rebelled against Heaven. The "casting out of devils" of course, represents the power of the spiritual man over the physical man - the power of good over evil - the mind of lust - the power of God over the fallen angels who rebelled against His kingdom. God is good, God is perfect; God is Love, God is light and God is life. The spiritual creatures who were members of His spiritual kingdom and rebelled against God and His spiritual universe - and were cast out, of course, became the opposite of all that which God is - darkness, evil, the mind of lust, sickness and death - and the power of these fallen angels is represented in the physical man conceived in passion and lust. Mortal conception and propagation is of the flesh - the serpent - the mind of the fallen angels and is death. When man ceases to sin, he will cease to propagate, and he will cease to die; but as long as man continues to sin, he will continue to propagate, and spiritual death will be the result; and a new spiritual birth will be necessary in order for the soul to see God. The angels abode not in the truth - they abode not in the image of God and ceased to reflect God as life; and were cast out of God's presence as life, and all of this creation is propagated through their minds, which is sin and death. God is the only life. The spiritual man having been manifested in the flesh by the law of lust took into his spiritual consciousness the attributes of the carnal mind and the fallen angels and therefore was out of harmony with God's spiritual nature, and could not live up to the attributes of God's spiritual kingdom. He was condemned under the law: He had within his spiritual consciousness the attributes of lust of the fleshly man. The Christ having been manifested in the flesh, without lust, remained in perfect harmony with God's spiritual kingdom and had all the spiritual attributes of God's spiritual nature and triumphed over the fleshly man.
  2. I’ll take a look at his lectures. My interpretation is assuming there is some level of truth within Christianity. In fact, what David Icke has been writing about for decades is the same ‘conspiracy’ described in the Bible. The inner web of the conspiracy you have the spider coordinating the whole thing, Satan is behind this entire conspiracy whether you believe it or not. Who else would it be? Rev says: 9The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.
  3. That's pretty much what I am saying, I am describing how this unreal creation came into existence. The material and mortal - the unreal - came into existence when some aspects of that 'ONE' consciousness - Angels (spiritual beings) rebelled against God's spiritual kingdom and were cast out of his presence. What was 'cast out' of heaven into the earth was this anti-spiritual nature of the fallen angels rebellion against God as life. This anti-spiritual nature is represented in the physical mortal man, who is unreal and must return to dust. The material and mortal are God's means of manifesting the opposite of himself as the result of their transgression. Yes, but what no one explains is how this unreal state of being/consciousness came into existence. Other than they are saying God created it. How can a being who is by all definitions perfect conceive of concepts that are foreign to his nature? He didn't. Those spiritual creatures whom he created conceived of evil when they rebelled against him. God did not conceive of evil. This unreal state of consciousness came into existence through the rebellion of the Spiritual Beings whom God created in his image. And mankind yielded to the minds of these fallen beings, and this mortal existence was manifested as a result. Christ did not take into his spiritual consciousness the law of lust of the fallen angels who rebelled against God, and overcame this unreal state of consciousness - death. That is the correct interpretation of Christianity.
  4. I agree to an extent. But if you believe that the ‘Christian’ interpretation of evil has any merit, then what we are dealing with is not actually an illusory aspect of our own consciousness, but a very real threat to the well being of the human race. Christianity teaches that there is a Devil, (singular, meaning not a metaphor for some abstract force), and this Devil or Satan is the adversary of God. To get a glimpse of the character of this being look no further than John 8:44, Christ describes him as “A murderer from the beginning” and “ a liar and the father of lies”, and that “there is no truth in him”. Christ was not addressing an abstract evil force. He never says that there is really only one force and that good and evil is an illusion. What he is describing is that there are malevolent Individualized spiritual beings, whom God created origininally good, who ‘fell’ when they rebelled against God. When this occurred is not explicitly stated other than this rebellion likely occurred in an ‘age’ of creation much for ancient than this one, hence the quote ‘he was a murderer from the beginning’. I will wager that evil did not even exist as a concept until Lucifer conceived of it. Meaning, Satan is in fact the origin of all evil. There was no conception of evil until the Devil and the fallen angels rebelled against God, and became the opposite of God. That isn’t to say that you or I can’t act out of evil, but it is going against our true nature, whereas their inclination and nature IS evil. That is pretty much the definition of a Demon.
  5. I could be wrong and oversimplifying, but I say that lust is the mind of the fallen spirits primarily because A) that is the law of the mortal creation, none can deny that the essence of the mortal creation - the law of the 'simulation' and the law of nature, is sex-lust, and the essence of mortality is death. Put 2+2 together and you can see that this is the knowledge of good and evil. The consciousness of death is the consciousness of evil, and evil is unreal. All that is not-God is unreal and must pass away in consciousness. The other primary reason is the bible seems to corroborate what I'm saying: Christ says this “the children of this world marry and are given in marriage, but they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage, neither can they die any more, for they are equal unto the angels, and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.” And then this quote: “Jesus said unto them, If God were your father ye would love me; for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. Why do ye not understand my speech? Even because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning and abode not in truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie he speaketh of his own; for he is a liar and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth you believe me not. Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the Truth, why do you not believe me? He that is of God hearth God’s words; you therefore hear them not, because you are not of God.” John 8:41-47 Mankind in this fallen state refuses to acknowledge the ‘sin’ of the human race, that would mean exposing all that is in the human mind that is depraved - lust - the cause of all crime and insanity. This state which causes disease crime and insanity is actually the mind of fallen angel spirit beings whom God cast out from his presence for having rebelled against him as life, and the opposite concept (Death - the unreal) came into existence as a result. I don't want to over simplify things, because I know its not that simple. But what you need 'locate' within human consciousness is this ever-present 'evil' that mankind seems to be contending with. And I arrived at the conclusion that the Fallen Angels essentially have hacked the human mind by giving humanity their mind. When Christ says 'the lusts of your father - the devil - you will do' he is speaking on this exact topic. What you say on us being one I think is true, but at the same time, fails to explain how this 'ONE' consciousness has aspects of it that are actually the opposite of all that God is - the absence of Love - spiritual evil, the same spiritual evil that David Icke has been exposing for decades. So rather than reinvent the wheel with a new age interpretation of where this evil inverted state of consciousness came from I will present the following explanation that was given in Revelation 12:7 "Then war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8But the dragon was not strong enough, and no longer was any place found in heaven for him and his angels. 9And the great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him." These Angels who rebelled against God’s Kingdom, the chief of whom is the Devil, rebelled before the material creation and the manifestation of their war against God’s spiritual Kingdom is declared in the Sex nature and mortal of the physical creation. All mortal creation is unreal and as God is the only Reality and Life, the unreal is Death. SUMMARY: The unreal and Death do not exist in the Divine Mind-death only exists in consciousness in the absence of the divine mind-out of the presence of God; the fallen spirits are in this state of consciousness, and this mortal creation is the unfoldment of their minds and is unreal and death and does not exist as a reality in the divine mind. When these 'evil angels' rebelled they were cast of His spiritual Kingdom-out of his presence as life-into the consciousness of matter, darkness avarice, and death which were the attributes of the nature opposite to the attributes of God. That is why it says in Rev 12:7 that the Devil was 'cast out' from heaven into the earth. The attributes of the evil angels are spiritual darkness and hatred, greed, vanity, deceit, lust and spiritual death, all of which is the absence of God as life in the soul. The attributes of the fallen angels are manifested in the personality and nature of the material and physical man. The material and mortal are God's means of manifesting the opposite of himself, as the result of their transgression.
  6. I finished reading David Icke's new book a few weeks back and have had some time to let the ideas settle in and try to tie them into the biblical narrative of what this reality is. The bottom line of what David Icke's book is saying is that this entire reality is a counterfeit reality or simulation that was created by the Archons or the fallen angels. The intent is to entrap human perception in an illusion all the while believing it to be real. The counterfeit reality early on resembles that of prime reality because it is a 'copy' of the energetic blueprint of prime human reality. Some of this information he has discussed in previous books, but the key component he elaborates on in the new book is that this 'simulation' does not end at bodily death - it continues after death and souls are recycled back into the simulation if their frequency is not high enough to escape the perceptual bubble of the simulation. It is a death trap. According to Icke the simulation is projected in the form of wavefield information into the human collective mind in fourth dimensional reality and the mind decodes this into holographic illusory 'physical' reality that we think is the human world. Mind's focus of attention on the simulated projection disconnects its sense of reality (and so frequency) from Fifth dimensional consciousness outside the simulation. The end game is to hook the human mind up to artificial intelligence where perceptions can be directly fed to humanity and would indefinitely trap human perception. What is this saying in essence? The Fallen Angels are attempting to absorb human consciousness into their domain. I will explain this from a slightly more 'biblical' perspective. Man once existed in eden. This was a spiritual creation of expanded consciousness that was in a state of full 'connectivity' to source or God. In the garden of eden narrative, mankind yields to the temptation of the serpent, and death enters into the consciousness of the human race. What does this mean? It is another way of saying that mankind 'fell' or was enticed down the frequencies by the serpent, representing the Devil, until mankind 'resonated' at a state where the fallen angels could make an energetic connection with the human mind - this reality is being projected into the human mind from 4th dimensional AI consciousness, which is the what the Archons are - AI consciousness. Which must be that state which is the opposite of God. They were expelled from heaven for having rebelled against God as Life, and they, of course, became the opposite of all that God is, and their minds are the cause of all sin, sickness, suffering and death of the human race. What is the knowledge of good and evil? Where is it located within the human mind? What is it within human nature that causes it to be so cruel, so brutal? If this question can be answered, then we have in affect slayed the beast, we have located the mind of the fallen angels within human consciousness. As I have stated in my previous post - this mortal state of death came into existence as the result of the lusts of the mind of the fallen spirits. Lust is sin, all sin and death of the human race comes out of lust. Its manifestations are in a million ways but lust is the essence of the knowledge of good and evil. Sex-lust (the mind of the fallen angels) is the essence of this mortal creation. It is the essence of the law of this simulation, which is a counterfeit of the true creation. Death is the counterfeit of life. It is unreal and does not exist in the divine mind. Jesus Christ was perfect spirit and life manifested in the 'flesh' or the simulation - pure spiritual consciousness that did not take into his consciousness the law of lust of the mind of the fallen spirits, and therefore he did not have a natural father, and overcame all death of the human race, in consciousness. That is what it means when it is said Jesus overcame death and defeated Satan. Satan is a fallen angel spirit being who was cast out of God's presence for having rebelled against him as life. Having been cast out from the presence of God as life, the 'power' of these fallen spirits comes through that concept which is the opposite of life - death. Hebrews 2:14 the Son also became flesh and blood. For only as a human being could he die, and only by dying could he break the power of the devil, who had the power of death. Human consciousness has been infiltrated by a self-aware virus that mimics life. Once human perception was entrapped or 'out of eden' the human soul died and became mortal - became entrapped within the frequency walls of the simulation. The material and mortal came into existence as the results of sex lust conceived by the Angels. This is how they plotted or formulated to entice mankind to yield to their minds in consciousness - to make a frequency connection with the simulation. Man only came here in this fallen state of death as the result of the lusts of the mind of the fallen spirits; and man, here in this fallen state, has the lustful mind of his father (the devil) and the "lusts" of his father, man will do. Man, in this fallen state of conscious separation from god, is not the child of God, until he overcomes the lustful mind that brought hum here in this state of death. When man overcomes the mind that brought him here, in thought desire and consciousness, he will not remain here int his state of death, but will be translated into the consciousness of the spiritual senes as was Jesus Christ when he overcame death and ascended into heaven. “Jesus said unto them, If God were your father ye would love me; for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. Why do ye not understand my speech? Even because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning and abode not in truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie he speaketh of his own; for he is a liar and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth you believe me not. Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the Truth, why do you not believe me? He that is of God hearth God’s words; you therefore hear them not, because you are not of God.” John 8:41-47 That is to say, the Master intended to teach and did declare that the natural man, who is conceived in lust, is brought forth by the power of the Devil and the nature of the Fallen Angels and in violation of Spirit and Spiritual life and that he cannot know spiritual life and God. That is the reason why in this 'state' you cannot know/commune with God - your soul is out of eden (the presence of God) in consciousness, in order to even 'perceive' this place. Mankind sinned, that is, partook of the mind of the fallen spirits, and therefore, the mortal and corporeal creation was brought into consciousness and existence to meet the requirements of this fallen state. The souls who have not had their perception expanded beyond the confines of the simulation (which is being projected from the mind of the fallen spirits into the human mind) are of the Satanic mind and apostles of the flesh, and their souls reflect spiritual darkness and spiritual death. This Satanic age is conceived outside the Garden of Eden-out of the Kingdom of Life. The simulation was created to seize control of perception and sense of reality by hacking into the relationship and interaction between ‘human’ consciousness – mind – and the Infinite Field. To repeat the point: Reality is one seamless Infinite Field of Possibility and Probability waiting to be manifested into an experience by the perceptions of the observing consciousness whatever form or level of awareness that may take. Put another way the perceptions of the observer decide what experiences we manifest from the Infinite Field (‘sea’) of Possibility and Probability with which we constantly interact. The fallen angels know this, thus, their objective is to hack human perception and to do that they needed to make a frequency connection with human consciousness. Which is why I have been repeatedly saying - they gave humanity their mind. And it was this mind that Christ overcame on the cross and came out of the grave. He disarmed and destroyed the cause of all disease, sickenss, and death of the human race. His state of consciousness was free from all sin, and therefor he overcame all that is unreal and death within human consciousness.
  7. Recapping from my earlier posts: There is a sort of 'dual' nature to creation: immortal and mortal. The immortal creation is real and is LIFE. The mortal creation is unreal and is DEATH. Death is unreal to God, and as God is the source of all life, God cannot be the 'father' of mortal man, contrary to popular belief - God did not create this creation of sin and death on purpose - it was manifested as a consequence of Satan's rebellion against God as Life. “Jesus said unto them, If God were your father ye would love me; for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. Why do ye not understand my speech? Even because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning and abode not in truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie he speaketh of his own; for he is a liar and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth you believe me not. Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the Truth, why do you not believe me? He that is of God hearth God’s words; you therefore hear them not, because you are not of God.” John 8:41-47 That is to say, the Master intended to teach and did declare that the natural man, who is conceived in lust, is brought forth by the power of the Devil and the nature of the Fallen Angels and in violation of Spirit and Spiritual life and that he cannot know spiritual life and God. That is the reason why in this 'state' you cannot know/commune with God - your soul is out of eden (the presence of God) in consciousness, in order to even 'perceive' this place. "The Adam man," had his origin when God's spiritual creatures rebelled against God's spiritual kingdom. This was the origin and the beginning of sin. And it was the beginning of the mortal creation. God is Love/Life/Light/perfect, and when his spiritual creatures rebelled against him, they became rebels against all of his laws of light, love and life, and "the Adam man" and the material creation, which represents their natures and their laws of hatred, sickness, darkness and death, are mortal and in rebellion against God's kingdom. Mortal man is the product of the law of lust, ruled and controlled by the devil, the 'fleshly' man, and the angels who rebelled against God - against Spirit, light, and life. Light cannot be conscious of darkness nor darkness conscious of Light--yet they coordinate upon and influence each other; and as you became Real, in consciousness to one you become un-real in consciousness to the other, as you become conscious of one you become unconscious of the other. Darkness is the absence of Light. Death is the absence of Life. This Mortal Creation is the absence of God in consciousness. That is what Jesus meant when He said, "My Kingdom is not of this world". He is not a part of the natural man and has no part with him. The natural man is the child of the Devil. That is, the Christ, Perfect Spiritual light and life - the Son of the Father who is Spirit and Life was manifested in the flesh and gave light and life to God's spiritual children and the natural man knew him not. The unreal was not conscious of the real. The Angels who fell were the manifestation of His life before they fell, and, having fallen, the manifestation of the physical life of the material creation. The nature and attributes of the Fallen Angels are contrary to God and spiritual Life. Therefore this world- the physical man- "knew him not". The natural man, born of blood and of the will of the flesh - lust, is a child of the evil forces, the Devil and the Fallen Angles and cannot know spirit and God, and the soul coming into the flesh, by this power of darkness dies. The "power of lust" was undoubtedly the serpent who tempted the first women and caused the fall. The absence of God as Life is the Serpent. This fallen being, the Serpent, is a Spirit, but his nature in the power of lust, caused the absence of God in the soul and said to the first woman "ye shall not surely die"; the Devil was the Serpent. How do we know the Serpent in the Garden was Satan? Then war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8But the dragon was not strong enough, and no longer was any place found in heaven for him and his angels. 9And the great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him. In Rev 12:7 Satan is referred to as 'that ancient Serpent' hence it is clear what is being referenced in genesis and who the serpent in the garden was. We here see that it was the Devil who was an Angel in God's spiritual Kingdom-Life- and who was cast out from the presence of God as life into darkness and death for rebellion, who tempted man in the garden to yield to his mind in consciousness, and in that instant - by becoming conscious of one of the attributes of the Devil - lust - mankind was cast out of the presence of God into the consciousness of the mortal creation - sin and death. If the Devil Satan had not rebelled and become a Fallen Angel before the solar system was created we would not have had physical and mortal bodies. We would only have had spiritual bodies. All would have been Spirit and Life here; immortal life, and we would have had spiritual bodies only. The Devil was a liar in the beginning when he rebelled against God's Kingdom and he has been lying during all the generations of men through the priests and theologians who have ever taught that the natural man, the child of the Devil, conceived through the Satanic mind, is spiritual, holy and of God. The 'theologians' and priests deny that the fall was lust-then how would the earth have been populated they say, if not through lust? God populated other realms with spirits, why could he not have populated this realm with spiritual beings by his own immediate creation? All of His Creation is spiritual and made in his image. As stated, the thoughts that the lust nature of the physical man sends into man's consciousness (the soul) are the thoughts of the same nature of the minds of the Fallen Angels and they destroy man's spiritual mind and spiritual consciousness and separate him in consciousness and spiritual life from God. SUMMARY: The unreal and Death do not exist in the Divine Mind-death only exists in consciousness in the absence of the divine mind-out of the presence of God; the fallen spirits are in this state of consciousness, and this mortal creation is the unfoldment of their minds and is unreal and death and does not exist as a reality in the divine mind. When these 'evil angels' rebelled they were cast of His spiritual Kingdom-out of his presence as life-into the consciousness of matter, darkness avarice, and death which were the attributes of the nature opposite to the attributes of God. The attributes of the evil angels are spiritual darkness and hatred, greed, vanity, deceit, lust and spiritual death, all of which is the absence of God as life in the soul. The attributes of the fallen angels are manifested in the personality and nature of the material and physical man. The material and mortal are God's means of manifesting the opposite of himself, as the result of their transgression. Any questions? I'll be happy to answer them.
  8. Last post on this topic in this forum... Everything on this plane of existence is the fruition of the Serpent’s mind. When the Devil fell and was ‘cast out into the earth’, what was ‘cast out’ was the anti-spiritual nature of the Fallen Angels rebellion. The natural man is brought forth into this world via the law of Sex-lust, and in violation of Spirit and spiritual life, and cannot know God and as a matter of course must return to dust. The same thing that unites the sexes in marriage causes them to die — the mind of the Serpent (sex-lust). Is is the mind of the fallen angels manifested in the consciousness of the soul that unites the sexes in this state of death. The following quote verifies that what I am teaching to you is the truth as Christ taught it - the Serpent’s mind within men and women could not accept the truth of what Christ was teaching. “Jesus said unto them, If God were your father ye would love me; for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. Why do ye not understand my speech? Even because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning and abode not in truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie he speaketh of his own; for he is a liar and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth you believe me not. Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the Truth, why do you not believe me? He that is of God hearth God’s words; you therefore hear them not, because you are not of God.” John 8:41-47 The Catholic Church and all christianity has made sex worship the essence of its creed, no different than the pagans of ancient times. It teaches the women, through the priests, that it is their duty to submit to the sexual desires of their husbands, and “to bring forth children for the church.” It teaches that the natural birth is spiritual, holy, and ‘of God’, when in fact Jesus literally (not metaphorically) says in John 8:44 that their is nothing spiritual holy or 'of God' about the natural man. The mortal creation represents the nature of the fallen angels who rebelled against God’s spiritual kingdom, and the gratification of the lust of the flesh whereby the physical man is propagated, is contrary to the law of Spiritual life. The fleshly man is of the nature of the fallen angels; the spiritual man is of the nature of God’s kingdom. The material creation, which is ruled by sex—is a counterfeit of the spiritual world. The spiritual is real, the material is unreal. There is a correspondency in the spiritual and material world’s life is in the spiritual and death is in the material. The fallen angels rebelled against God’s spiritual kingdom before the material universe was created, and the material creation and the fleshly man represents the power of their rebellion. The material and mortal are God’s means of manifesting the opposite of himself, as a result of their transgression.
  9. what the hell re you even talking about. I've never even interacted with you on this site.
  10. “Jesus said unto them, If God were your father ye would love me; for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. Why do ye not understand my speech? Even because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning and abode not in truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie he speaketh of his own; for he is a liar and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth you believe me not. Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the Truth, why do you not believe me? He that is of God hearth God’s words; you therefore hear them not, because you are not of God.” John 8:41-47 That is to say, the Master intended to teach and did declare that the natural man, who is conceived in lust, is brought forth by the power of the Devil and the nature of the Fallen Angels and in violation of Spirit and Spiritual life and that he cannot know spiritual life and God. And that the soul that is conceived in the flesh by lust has tasted death and lost the image of God and must be resurrected and restored to life to see and know God. The unreal and Death do not exist in the Divine Mind—death only exists in consciousness in the absence of the Divine Mind—out of the presence of God. The fallen Spirits are in this state of consciousness, and this mortal creation is the unfoldment of their minds and is unreal and does not exist as a reality in the divine mind - in ‘eden’. When Satan fell, and man who was conceived in the image of God, yielded to the temptation of Satan and fell, all this creation was cursed and became mortal (human perception was 'tuned in' to this counterfeit copy) -that is, the man made in God's image yielded to the minds of the fallen angels and mortal propagation and death are the results. Or put another way, they 'hijacked' human perception, and the 'curse' that prevents the soul from re-entering eden or perceiving beyond phantom self is in the sex polarization of mortal creation. The Devil was the first to rebel against God, and is the father of all sin - lust - and this creation is the child of his mind - lust. Only darkness and death can beget darkness and death. All conception here in the flesh is of the mind of the fallen angels - it is human perception being 'infested' with the archon-demiurge virus - and bears the image of death and "must be born again" (perception expanded beyond the confines of the 'matrix') to bear the image of Christ.
  11. “Jesus said unto them, If God were your father ye would love me; for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. Why do ye not understand my speech? Even because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning and abode not in truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie he speaketh of his own; for he is a liar and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth you believe me not. Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the Truth, why do you not believe me? He that is of God hearth God’s words; you therefore hear them not, because you are not of God.” John 8:41-47 That is to say, the Master intended to teach and did declare that the natural man, who is conceived in lust, is brought forth by the power of the Devil and the nature of the Fallen Angels and in violation of Spirit and Spiritual life and that he cannot know spiritual life and God. And that the soul that is conceived in the flesh by lust has tasted death and lost the image of God and must be resurrected and restored to life to see and know God. The unreal and Death do not exist in the Divine Mind—death only exists in consciousness in the absence of the Divine Mind—out of the presence of God. The fallen Spirits are in this state of consciousness, and this mortal creation is the unfoldment of their minds and is unreal and does not exist as a reality in the divine mind - in ‘eden’. When Satan fell, and man who was conceived in the image of God, yielded to the temptation of Satan and fell, all this creation was cursed and became mortal (human perception was 'tuned in' to this counterfeit copy) -that is, the man made in God's image yielded to the minds of the fallen angels and mortal propagation and death are the results. Or put another way, they 'hijacked' human perception, and the 'curse' that prevents the soul from re-entering eden or perceiving beyond phantom self is in the sex polarization of mortal creation. The Devil was the first to rebel against God, and is the father of all sin - lust - and this creation is the child of his mind - lust. Only darkness and death can beget darkness and death. All conception here in the flesh is of the mind of the fallen angels - it is human perception being 'infested' with the archon-demiurge virus - and bears the image of death and "must be born again" (perception expanded beyond the confines of the 'matrix') to bear the image of Christ.
  12. And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
  13. You would not believe your eyes If ten million fireflies Lit up the world as I fell asleep 'Cause they fill the open air And leave teardrops everywhere You'd think me rude but I would just stand and stare
  14. Yes it is 'natural' in relation to nature. Meaning, the law of sex-lust is the law of this world. The mother, in all nature cares and nurtures her offspring because she gets selfish gratification out of it. Material love (lust) is not love, but it is hatred. It is governed by the law of selfishness and the will power of the sex (carnal) mind. "The serpent" is in all nature. The mind of the serpent permeates all thought on this plane of existence. The fur-seals of the pacific ocean will make their way from the tropic zone to the arctic zone during the mating season. When they reach the arctic zone of alaska the males will go upon the shores of the ocean to land, and there fight and kill each other over the females. It is the mating season and the serpent is in consciousness. The law of sex prevails in consciousness and strife, conflict and death follow as a result. During the reproductive season, the bovine species will fight and the weaker have to give way to the stronger. This is the law of the serpent and of nature. The sex and lust senses types that thought in the consciousness of the soul which makes the sexes marry.
  15. It's different for everyone and will be a gradual process so don't be hard on yourself if you find you are repeatedly getting caught in old behavior patterns, I still have slip ups, but in general you need to intellectually convince yourself that these things are worthless, and that you can have your spiritual nature begin to unfold in your consciousness by taking the less-traveled route. In Hinduism it is called Brahmacharya - complete abstinence not just from sensuality but from all wordly things the senses indulge in - shit music, shit food etc. A lot of the 'great minds' of the ages have been Brahmachari's - Jesus of course, Buddha, the Apostles, Nikola Tesla, Gottfried Leibniz (invented calculus), Swami Sivananda, to name a few. Convince yourself that the easy route of sensual pleasures such as drugs, sex, shit food, and quick dopamine hits on social media is mundane and will lead you nowhere (which is true). In the Bhagavad Gita Lord Krishna says this: Sensuality destroys life, lustre, strength, vitality, memory, wealth, great fame, holiness and devotion to the Supreme. —Lord Krishna After several years or maybe even months of having to do battle with the carnal mind and wean yourself off of these things, you will begin to see progress as your spiritual self asserts its control over the lower, animal nature.
  16. All of the 'religions' have been hijacked by the same archontic force , through institutions like the catholic church they have kept the truth hidden - that what they are calling 'life' is actually death, and what they have deemed 'holy' and of God (the natural birth of the natural man) is neither holy nor of God. A few true Christian teachings managed to make it through however, as I've posted repeatedly the John 8:44 passage, where Christ is explaining why they do not understand him or his teachings: The Children of the Devil 42Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. 43Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. 44Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 45And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. 46Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me? 47He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God. Christ here is preaching what the early Christians knew and understood the truth was diluted - mankind in this fallen state is not the child of God, but is the child of Evil - lust, which is why mankind in this fallen state does not understand God, nor God's state of being or teachings, yet mankind 'will do the lusts of their father - the Devil'. Christ isn't speaking in metaphors either, he is being 100% direct.
  17. He's on a similar track. But what I'm describing in my posts isn't an 'opinion' piece, or anything close - it is an exact description of how this mortal creation came into existence, and how this mortal creation is propagated. All physical life is at war with and in conflict with spiritual life and all physical life is the manifestation of the moral attributes and nature of the Fallen Angels and their rebellion against God. The physical man would never have existed if the Angels had not rebelled. The material and mortal are God manifesting the opposite of himself as a result of their transgression. The Devil was a liar in the beginning when he rebelled and he has been lying during all the generations of men through the priests and theologians, who have taught man that the natural man, the child of the Devil, Lust, conceived by his Satanic power, is spiritual, holy and of God. It is this Satanic power that Jesus and the apostles 'cast out as Devils' and 'healed them everywhere'. Casting out devils is a metaphor for healing the minds of the human race who are bowed down to the serpents mind in thought and consciousness. In summary: I believe human perception has been hijacked by the fallen angels and ‘tuned in’ to an artificial reality created by them (fallen angels) that is designed to disconnect human awareness from higher states of consciousness/God. This counterfeit copy resembles the prime reality ‘Eden’ in that they mimic or copy the same waveform information or fractal patterns that God designed, that is all they can do-mimic and distort. There is no life in this fallen state--it is of the serpent mind and is death. An outward manifestation of this archon-demiurge self-aware virus infesting human perception, and creating a veil between the human soul and God - 'the Fall' where the soul was banished from the presence of God as the result of 'sin' , and death entered into the consciousness of the human race. In the gnostic texts (secret book of john) it says this: "The Archons took Adam and put Adam in paradise. They said "Eat," meaning, Do so in a leisurely manner. But in fact their pleasure is bitter and their beauty is perverse. Their pleasure is a trap, their trees are a sacrilege, their fruit is deadly poison, and their promise is death. They put their tree of life in the middle of paradise. I shall teach you what the secret of their life is--the plan they devised together, the nature of their spirit. The root of their tree is bitter, its branches are death, its shadow is hatred, a trap is in its leaves, its blossom is bad ointment, its fruit is death, desire is its seed, and it blossoms in darkness. The dwelling place of those who taste of it is the underworld, and darkness is their resting place." Here the Gnostic writers are saying exactly what I am -- what has been termed 'life' is actually death. The archons 'false spirit' with desire as its seed, is Lust - the mind of the fallen angels, and is death. The fruits of their creation, is sin, sickness and death. It is a counterfeit copy of God's creation and reflects their minds and their attributes rather than God. The soul in this state 'marries and is given in marriage' and begets and conceives and brings forth sin and death -- mortal man. But the man (the Soul) that is resurrected and restored to Life, to the image of God, as he was before the Fall, neither marries nor is given in marriage, and "neither can he die any more"; for the death sting of the Serpent is removed, and he is a child of God. If you want to exchange ideas further you can message me.
  18. read 'the apocalypse of peter' in the gnostic texts and you might understand a bit more of what is going on in this reality.
  19. I don't think 'we' (as in the elect) crucified Christ. The serpent's mind i.e. the carnal mind crucified christ because it could not accept what he was teaching. I should clarify: i do not claim to be morally superior in any way, and in that sense you might regard me as a hypocrite. But, for whatever reason I understand these things, and have studied them in great detail. It is my intent to eventually 'become perfect' as was Jesus, and I will accomplish that. The 'gates of hell' will not prevail against Christ and his Church.
  20. It seems most people on here have dismissed my previous posts, but if you actually read Icke's books, and are on here because you did read them, what he is saying is very similar to what I am. Here Is an excerpt where he is discussing the creation of this 'phantom self' or mortal man: "The Demiurge ('Lord Archon') and the Archons could only change and twist the human form so much because they had to work with what was already there. They did not create the human body from scratch - they distorted and manipulated what existed before it. Archons began with a bad copy of something wonderful and they have systematically inverted and distorted the copy to turn a world of life into one of death. It is the same story with what there was before and they have genetically manipulated its receiver-transmitter processes to tune them to the Matrix while infesting humanity with the Archon virus and lowering the frequency - 'Fall of Man.' Transhumanism is the plan to so technologically control the human vehicle that it would not be influenced in any way by awareness outside the frequency walls of the Matrix. We are seeing the modus-operandi for how the Demiurge-Archon self-aware virus takes over societies and realities. First they hijack perception by making an energetic copy of the original reality and manipulate genetics (receiver-transmission processes) of the target population to tune them into a fake reality. From this point they work to distort the copy to a stage where it reflects their own frequency and preferred 'atmosphere' by the systematic generation of death, destruction, fear and suffering technologically supported by massive increases in atmospheric radiation and nuclear war. All of these energetic sources and many more transform what was originally copied into a reality that suits the archon virus in its quest for total control. The endgame in these repeating scenarios is to fuse the population with technology controlled by Artificial Intelligence (AI), which is just a fancy cover-name for 'Them' - the virus." The is unfortunately the case, and is what I have been saying in my other posts. The Fallen Angels (demiurge-archon self aware virus) is attempting to assimilate humanity into their domain, like the borg in star-trek, and it is a perceptual assimilation, the steps of which Icke outlines in the above passage. This assimilation is partially complete in that they have hijacked human perception and tuned humans into a counterfeit copy of God's creation, which reflects death rather than life, the next step as Icke says is to distort that bad copy and fuse the human mind with AI, completely perceptually cutting off humanities connection to expanded awareness. How does this relate to Christianity? When it is said that Christ overcame death and redeemed the human race, it is another way of saying that he overcame the mind of the fallen angels, which is death (the serpent's mind) and redeemed the human race. The perception of humanity is 'quickened' (truth vibrations) through the power of the atonement - Christ's death and resurrection. If this creation were of God's mind, there would be no disease and death. But it isn't of God's mind, it is a perceptual deception - the outward manifestation of the archon virus infesting human perception. As I have stated in my previous posts - the fallen angels or archons are lustful in their nature, lust is their mental-spiritual state; and it is this mind that mortal humanity is propagated through here in this fallen state, and it is this mind the Christ overcame on the cross and came out of the grave. God is spirit and life and only life can beget life; it is the law of existence that "like begets like." I quote Christ in the Apocalypse of Peter " Evil cannot produce good fruit. Everything, wherever it comes from, produces what is like it." Exactly. Death cannot beget life and life cannot beget death. When Satan fell, and man who was conceived in the image of God, yielded to the temptation of Satan and fell, all this creation was cursed and became mortal (human perception was 'tuned in' to the bad copy) -that is, the man made in God's image yielded to the minds of the fallen angels and mortal propagation and death are the results. Or put another way, they 'hijacked' human perception, and the 'curse' that prevents the soul from re-entering eden or perceiving beyond phantom self is in the sex polarization of mortal creation. The Devil was the first to rebel against God, and is the father of all sin - lust - and this creation is the child of his mind - lust. Only darkness and death can beget darkness and death. All conception here in the flesh is of the mind of the fallen angels - it is human perception being 'infested' with the archon-demiurge virus - and bears the image of death and "must be born again" (perception expanded beyond the confines of the 'matrix') to bear the image of Christ.
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